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Re: Leave the kids out of it (67,844) (67,848) by Licia from USA Yay. It's been been my goal to be labeled a goat. Greatest of all time? Yes that's me. Lol. (Wednesday 2 November 2016; 11:38)

Re: Wendy williams aludes Bryan's gay? (67,832) (67,847) by Sheila from United States Wendy has gone in two days on Mariah. The audience agrees Bryan is like a gay bestie. Every girl needs a bff that is gorgeous, gay and funny. Bryan appears to be that guy. (Wednesday 2 November 2016; 11:27)

Billboard article (67,845) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter This Billboard article makes me happy. They always pay respect to their reigning queen and this is a short wish-list of what her next album should have. Love that they went ahead with Mariah's use of "moment" for every item on the wish list haha. "Vocal moment", "Festive banger moment", "Anthem moment". Haha so cute. Pretty much covers my wish list too, except they didn't mention potential collaborators, but this board has that covered. The article was clearly written by a lamb judging by some of the words used and the nod to "Subtle Invitation". For the "Cover moment" I seriously wish Mariah would cover "You're not alone" or "Speechless" by Michael Jackson this time. Also "Butterflies" by MJ would be great too. Love that one. (Wednesday 2 November 2016; 11:19)

Re: Leave the kids out of it (67,837) (67,844) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Licia, I'm officially declaring you a certified goat. How dare you come on this message board and try to bully Mariah? Haha, jokes apart, I agree with your post. I really don't see the whole point of this. It's looking ridiculous and making Mariah look bad. (Wednesday 2 November 2016; 10:26)

Re: Dark, evil era (67,819) (67,843) by May from Denmark Or she is being that because she has been everything else before. Oh, she was a tiger just now, I thought this was supposed to be the dark and evil era, she should have chosen to be a black cat then, to go along with the conspiracies. If I were her I would have dressed as Trump, there's nothing more evil and scarier, and Tanaka could have been Putin, there we close the circle of nutjobs. (Wednesday 2 November 2016; 10:25)

Re: Leave the kids out of it (67,828) (67,842) by May from Denmark But Tanaka has been years with Mariah as her dancer and in recent years closer friend. So he is known to the kids and they might not feel his presence out of place. Nick usually does this whole holiday event, this year couldn't be. As much as I think Mariah is being childish I don't think that the kids are going "oh another man" and be all confused. We don't even know what Mariah told her kids about Packer and the whole wedding. Yet again all we can do is assume. And lots of assumptions are going on lately on the board taken as facts, the same with gullible people eating every gossip rumor from the most disputable magazine sources. I'm more concerned as to what's happening with a new album and music. Wasn't Mariah working on it? I suppose every non-Christmasy project is being put aside as Christmas is in the air. Too much to hope this year, but I would like Mariah to sing a new xmas song. (Wednesday 2 November 2016; 10:20)

Re: Unheard vocals - Anytime You Need A Friend (67,827) (67,841) by Chicago Lamb from USA They are from the original recording session not included on the album version. The original track fades before these previously unheard vocals play out. (Wednesday 2 November 2016; 5:34)

Packer / 50 million / Stella (67,840) by Nikki from usa I firmly believe in tried and true methods of sticking round pegs in round holes and square pegs in square holes. Stella's been around MC for 2 years now and I think if MC wants to keep her it should be just with television aspects of promo devoid of Mariah's music. Stella doesn't seem to have the pull to put MC on the cover of magazines and create hype outside of shock value. Mariah could use a manager that's suited to the music industry for her music. I still believe Mariah's #1 Christmas hit is going to happen this year. If she promotes the hell out of it, especially where live TV singing is concerned, it's going to happen. I don't believe the 50 million story. If it's true it would have more to do with business deals they conducted together. What if Packer was part of the promoter deal Mariah had for her Latin American leg and that's why it had to be cut? I'm also wondering a little why Mariah brought up the sex thing. Part of me is now wondering if that's part of what set Packer off. They're engaged, she's officially divorced now, he thought he'd finally get some and there everyone is tagging along. I thought he was getting irked by the extension of her docu-series and that's why she rented the second yacht. He can say he's not interested in media attention all he likes, but the fact is he used Mariah a lot to promote his projects. I was worried Mariah was about to be married and used as another man's investment. (Wednesday 2 November 2016; 5:03)

Re: Unheard vocals - Anytime You Need A Friend (67,827) (67,839) by Licia from USA I saw this on Facebook. Those vocals killed. The person on Twitter has a lot of good clips. I'm in heaven. (Wednesday 2 November 2016; 4:52)

Re: Leave the kids out of it (67,828) (67,837) by Licia from USA "However, it's obvious, whether some like it or not, that Mariah is trying to be a thorn in James' side, is using Tanaka to do so." I felt the same way when she got with JP. I always felt like she was just using the billionaire to prove a point to Nick. I've never believed she loved that man. I think she liked him, but not as much as he liked her. I agree about the kids. I'll just add that if this is the game that Mariah is playing, she needs to grow up. I hardly ever bring her age into anything, but she's too dang old to be playing junior high or high school games to make someone jealous. Before you "captain save Mariah" people come in trying to attack me, what I said is an opinion. I'm not passing it off as fact. So save your sermons. (Wednesday 2 November 2016; 4:25)

Re: Remember (67,824) (67,836) by Licia from USA With that whole Stella situation, I don't blame everything on her. I believe Mariah is behind a lot of this mess. She's not always the victim. She's the boss and I don't believe she would allow another Tommy Mottola situation to happen. Mariah controls a lot more than what we think. I agree about the kids. I'm not a fan of the little Stella's, but attacking them is going too far. They are still children nonetheless. The lambs going in on them on IG are just wrong. (Wednesday 2 November 2016; 4:17)

Re: Unheard vocals - Anytime You Need A Friend (67,827) (67,835) by Tevin from USA I think maybe this is the unfaded ending to the original song. Anyway it sounds heavenly. (Wednesday 2 November 2016; 2:52)

Re: Dark, evil era (67,825) (67,834) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter She took on too much too soon. (And this is just my opinion so the lamb firing squad can give it a rest.) The divorce with Nick clearly left her scarred because she seemed to be head over heels in love with him and we saw what a mess she was in 2014. She told him she'll get a billionaire if he messes up one more time and she kept her word and moved on to James real fast without letting herself heal. Also in the middle, she fired everyone she knew for 2 decades and then moved in a completely new set of employees hence surrounded by strangers. Her mom seems to be out of the picture, her brother and sister are taking multiple shots at her. Then the whole drama with James starts and whether she brought it on herself with the stunts or not, she is being humiliated publicly and that has got to affect her. Anyways I understand why Stella's "empower women, we don't need men" single mom empowerment thing rubbed off on Mariah, or at least I think I do. I mean Mariah is professionally independent but her songs suggest she is a hopeless romantic and a "softie". Stella's cut throat attitude probably inspired Mariah to pick up a "I don't give a fudge" attitude. The problem is while that is good that Stella inspires Mariah to be strong, ruthless and not let people ruin her vibe, we all know there have been downside to this too. Had she been able to maintain a good balance of this and maybe keep Stella as a friend, not have her entire family live in the same house, and let a real manager handle her business, it would probably would have been better. (Wednesday 2 November 2016; 2:52)

Re: Leave the kids out of it (67,831) (67,833) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Haha I saw the pictures too and I was about to post but then I'm like forget it, what's the use? Monroe does not look pleased, she looks downright annoyed. I am genuinely curious about what the end game here really is. Like it is quite clear they are intentionally allowing themselves to be photographed together but what do they want to achieve out of it? If a man can throw you out of your home and his yacht over what his business associate supposedly told him then would he really care that you are now hanging out with your back up dancer? Is he really worth the drama? Clearly he chose money over love (this is if I am to believe that particular rumor). So it just makes Mariah look like she's being "eternally 12" trying to get her ex jealous. Whatever it is, these kids need to be kept out. Gosh Mariah they'll grow up and read these, think about it. The best she could have done is just gone away from the public eye to let it blow over and return in a few weeks, alas that is not possible anymore because she has a lot of work scheduled. Still, I'd like for her to just scrap these messy photo ops and just resurface every time she has an official appearance. And no this doesn't mean she should lock herself up, we know very well how these paparazzi situation works, you either call themselves to tell them where you are or you knowingly go to places where they set camp. So enough with Nobu haha and stop calling them whenever you go out. Just enjoy your life without the mess. (Wednesday 2 November 2016; 2:40)

Re: Wendy williams aludes Bryan's gay? (67,823) (67,832) by Lila from United States I have to half-agree with Wendy. Of course I don't know if Brian is gay and won't make any predictions but their relationship does more so remind me of a woman hanging with her gay male bestie. I hope that doesn't offend anyone but that's just what I get. (Wednesday 2 November 2016; 2:05)

Re: Leave the kids out of it (67,828) (67,831) by RibbonB from USA I agree. I saw those pics and said I am not going to even bring it up. But since you did, I agree it is tragic that she would allow them to be put in the mix during this time. If she barely told them about remarrying, how does she explain his absence, then another man in the midst of everything. It is just not cool to allow your children to be familiar with so many different men. She is an adult, but they are young children and can barely discern what is or is not going on, but it is bad news to allow children to feel too comfortable and familiar with different people in and out of their lives. When she and Nick were married they used to say that they would be the only ones to even care for their children. My how things change, but Mariah gets new teams, men, friends etc way too often to have the children exposed to them and photographed with them. I have only seen them photographed with Snoop Dogg while they were in Nick's care and that is when he was on Wild N Out once. (Wednesday 2 November 2016; 1:48)

(67,830) by B from USA Mariah needs to write songs like she did during the Daydream and Butterfly eras. She needs to work with MIguel, Frank Ocean, and Bruno Mars and the collaborators and producers they work with which will update her signature sound without sounding desperate. She needs to cut ties with all of her previous collaborators and producers if she hopes to reamain relevant and make another comeback. Imagine a new song like Underneath The Stars or Fourth of July produced and written by Mariah and Frank. A song written with Miguel like Honey produced by Happy Perez. Ideas? Thoughts? (Wednesday 2 November 2016; 0:58)

Re: Dark, evil era (67,821) (67,829) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter That is a scary scenario and I hope Mariah stays safe and away from any Scientology mess. Maybe they initially "allowed" the union thinking that they can recruit Mariah, another high profile celeb face, to use as their ambassador or whatever you call it, like Tom Cruise. But Mariah possibly flat out refused to be a part of this messy cult and that's when things started going bad. Other scenario being they were never down with Mariah either ways. Anyways whichever it is, if there is any Scientology crap involved in this, I hope Mariah just shakes it off and moves on with her life. She has a good thing going, she's an independent woman who can live comfortably for the rest of her life living solely off her Christmas domination (if she wants), not to mention her other huge songs, she has two beautiful children and she has a career that still has a lot of life in it. Instead of being hot headed and vowing for revenge, Stella should instead just pull Mariah away from this, tell her to let bygones be bygones and focus on her music and her family, things that bring her joy. I do understand that being thrown off the boat and being told to leave the house (if those stories are true) can be a huge shock to Mariah and is likely to piss anyone off especially if it's someone who has lived on her own terms since leaving Tommy (ugh 2 Tommys sabotaging Mariah), but fighting Scientology big wigs is like fighting a tiger. They are too powerful, have to many resources, will go to any lengths to protect themselves. It's dark and evil, Mariah alone with Stella won't be able to handle it. Best they just move away from this mess. (Wednesday 2 November 2016; 0:55)

Leave the kids out of it (67,828) by Lila from United States I wish Mariah would leave the kids out of her poor decision making. I didn't like seeing Tanaka in the pics of Mariah and the kids trick or treating. I don't think he's a perv or evil or anything, however, it's obvious, whether some like it or not, that Mariah is trying to be a thorn in James side, is using Tanaka to do so, and Tanaka is more than happy to play his part. Okay be stupid if you want but keep that sh.t relegated to the adults only. The fact is that many who are paying attention to this travesty are thinking or at least pondering that Mariah really bopping her backup dancer. This now makes it look like mommy's new fling is playing happy family with the kids for Halloween. Then before that she's moving them into yachts and houses with a man she barely knew. I just can't with her right now. (Tuesday 1 November 2016; 23:41)

Unheard vocals - Anytime You Need A Friend (67,827) by Martyn from England, UK I've just seen this on Twitter. I've never heard this version/these vocals before. Does anybody know where they are from? They're sublime. (Tuesday 1 November 2016; 22:42)

Re: Dark, evil era (67,821) (67,826) by B from USA Mariah is a Christian. She acknowledged her faith in interviews, lyrics, and speeches. She knows her voice (and other talents) is (are) a gift from God. (Tuesday 1 November 2016; 22:35)

Re: Dark, evil era (67,821) (67,825) by MusicfanJ from Germany I just checked instagram and again I'm sad because of what I see. (the "Halloween" video with Mariah). It scares me but not on the funny way. What's happening? She looks lost and sad and not for the first time. We can make a lot of music lists to have positive feelings, but I'm so fed up with this dark/evil era. Somebody on this board mentioned it's worse than the Glitter-era. I completely agree, in 2001 Mariah was clearly exhausted. The problem is I don't recognize her and I'm a fan since 1995. I'm really worried. It seems like something really bad happened or has happened. Is it because of the divorce with Nick Cannon? They always seemed so happy. Mariah need real friends around her who has nothing to do with the business to become a butterfly again. (Tuesday 1 November 2016; 21:58)

Re: Remember (67,801) (67,824) by Bill from the UK The last time all the boxes were ticked was with Touch My Body I think. She looked the best she's ever looked, did worldwide promotion, appearances on countless TV shows, great live performances, a hilarious and fun video and the song was catchy and fresh and everything just worked. And she got what may very well end up being her last number one from it. As for all this Stella talk, no one knows how that partnership works. Everybody who comments on her jumps to conclusions and blames her for every misstep. The personal insults towards her and her children are simply vicious and completely unwarranted, no matter what you think she may have done. (Tuesday 1 November 2016; 21:33)

Wendy williams aludes Bryan's gay? (67,823) by Sheila from United States Wendy Williams really went in today on Mariah and said that Bryan and Mariah are probably watching "Sex & the city" reruns together lol. (Tuesday 1 November 2016; 21:06)

National All I Want For Christmas Is You Week (67,822) by Blue Riding Hood from Outside Guys, fellow lambs are organizing AIWFCIY week. More details at this site. Please take it part in this. We want to gift Mimi another #1 as a holiday gift. Even if we can't have another #1, we can still get her another top 10 entry for sure. P.S. The starting date is 9th December 2016. If you would participate, I would be glad. (Tuesday 1 November 2016; 20:53)

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