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Re: Next album suggestions (66,337) (66,342)
by Giovanni from USA
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I agree, but can we forget the "best album covers of 2017" and try and get a Grammy nomination.
(Friday 16 September 2016; 10:35)
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Give me a break (66,341)
by Giovanni from USA
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A double standard my a**. Mariah has always been sexy without coming off as desperate or trying too hard. Which is what she has been giving us this past year. Mariah can be sexy, just not over the top. This is a woman who is approaching 50. She's never had to rely on sexiness or sell sex because unlike Britney and Jennifer Lopez Mariah has talent. But her recent pictures have been a hot mess. They're not a good look for her at all.
(Friday 16 September 2016; 10:32)
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Re: Does Mariah get a double-standard? (66,332) (66,340)
by Licia from USA
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J. Lo got that nic name for her notorious man hopping lol. I don't think I've ever heard the media clown her about her attire though. Besides the infamous Grammy dress she's usually on point.
(Friday 16 September 2016; 9:53)
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by Tameka walker from United states
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I couldn't agree more it seems like other stars can have a sexy era but Mariah can't it does seem like we hold her to a different standard which isn't fair. So she lost some weight and want to flaunt it. I say there is nothing wrong with that in my opinion I think she does it tastefully look at Madonna she had a sex book back in the day and people thought it was cool. We do hold Mariah to a different standard which is not right. By the way I am excited for the new music and I am one who will be the first I in line to buy. I am Mariah's ride or die lamb.
(Friday 16 September 2016; 8:45)
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Next album suggestions (66,337)
by Malcolm from Asia
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So Lady Gaga is back and I think this is her most personal album to date. I really commend her artistry, she's one of the few young artists today that really taking their craft seriously. I can't get enough with her album cover, it's so simple yet beautiful. I want that type of cover for Mariah's next album, a mild tone, simple and doesn't have too much edit and color. More natural, the better. I'm tired of the redundant poses on her albums, she must try something new and low key because it will help her gain a wide-range of consumers. And if she will keep it natural, the photoshop bashing and accusations will vanish. But based on what I'm seeing now, I guess I'm reaching for the stars here. But the important is, either the boobies will once again be featured or not, she must hire creatively-great graphic artists for her next album that can be included to the "best album covers of 2017".
(Friday 16 September 2016; 8:36)
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Re: Does Mariah get a double-standard? (66,329) (66,336)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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This has less to do about an unfair "double standard" and more because she has a different backstory. Unlike J.Lo, Janet and Brit who have established themselves as sex symbols very early on in their career, Mariah, on the other hand, took a decade to gradually ease into a full blown sexy image during the Glitter era. It's not that Mariah isn't sexy, or isn't as sexy as those three. It's also not that a sexy image doesn't suit her, or that she doesn't have the right to express her sexy side as much as they do. It's the fact that her more recent antics seem forced and unnatural. Just look at how most of her recent pictures and outfits come across. There's an awkwardness there that translates as "trying too hard". So yeah, maybe we hold her to a different standard - a higher one she mostly set on her own through the years. She isn't a sex symbol. She's a sexy singer who doesn't have to do much to be sexy. There's a difference. This is not about establishing what she can or cannot do. It's about not breaking character with the image she has cultivated over the quarter of a century - because that's what her fans cherish and know her for - an extremely beautiful, talented, one-of-a-kind woman who also happens to have this mystery about her that is sexy. Now more than ever, we should appreciate how important reconnecting with her fans is because if it isn't obvious enough, it doesn't seem like she has a lot left who are actually supporting her. And these bad pics definitely aren't helping - I mean, just look at the posts on this board. Wow, just realized I used "sexy" 9 times.
(Friday 16 September 2016; 6:16)
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Re: Does Mariah get a double-standard? (66,329) (66,335)
by Tevin from USA
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Yes Mariah gets and deserves a double standard because Mariah is better than those women, and she has the undeniable talent to back it up, while those women has to use gimics to futher there careers. Not saying she cant be sexy but she shouldn't have to sacrifice class for it. She hadn't in the past and she shouldn't have to do it now.
(Friday 16 September 2016; 5:08)
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Re: Does Mariah get a double-standard? (66,329) (66,334)
by Licia from USA
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People have had issues with the oversexualized images of the women you named. I know for a fact Britney and Janet got a lot of flack for it. They've all had their moments where they went beyond sexy and were straight trashy. They also got called out alot for doing so. So no I don't believe Mariah is being held to a different standard. She's being treated no different than the other ladies when they went through their oversexed kitten stage.
(Friday 16 September 2016; 3:49)
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Re: Does Mariah get a double-standard? (66,329) (66,332)
by RibbonB from USA
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Perhaps because she held herself to a different standard. I don't check for those other ladies, but they get a lot of flack online too during awards shows or other trending events. But if you like it, then cool, many people are saying "yass queen", so why worry about those who don't at this moment in time? And Mariah is the one giving mixed signals, making many people wonder "are you ok Mimi?" I forgot, but early on one of the others' nick name was "JHo" and Brittany is lost in space for over a decade now and living under conservertorship, so maybe she gets sympathy for that alone. Lol.
(Friday 16 September 2016; 2:09)
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Article: Seriously, who is taking these sexy photos of Mariah? (66,331)
by Betty from Canada
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That's a good question and I want to know the answer. Is it Stella?
(Friday 16 September 2016; 2:02)
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Glitter debacle (66,330)
by B from USA
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Tommy sabotaged the Glitter era. Mariah was going to release the original Loverboy with the Firecraker sample as the first single and If We as the second. Glitter being a Columbia film allowed him access to the dailies and to the soundtrack. He knew Mariah had two massive hits on her hands. Knowing so he had Jennifer license the Firecracker sample and had Cory Rooney (who had worked with Mariah before) write the the album version of I'm Real. He probably played Corey the original version of Loverboy and said write Jennifer a song just like this. We all know Tommy called Ja and Irv and had them ripoff If We for the I'm Real remix. Ashanti unknowingly played a part in this. She sang the lead vocals on the demo versions of each song for Jenny to emulate. They weaved her vocals with Jennifer's. If you listen closely to these songs and the Ain't It Funny remix you can her Ashanti's vocals. She was not only exhausted from working on two movies, a soundtrack, and the end of her relationship with Luis. Obviously whoever stole her ideas and or concepts this time is a bigger star than Jennifer. I bet she was planning a surprise release for MIAMTEC but Beyonce beat her to it. The only other artist I think of is Alaniss Morisette. She re-released Jagged Little Pill with demos, new liner notes, and a live disc of her of her concerts (supposedly it also includes a DVD of the music videos released to promote the album).
(Friday 16 September 2016; 1:38)
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Does Mariah get a double-standard? (66,329)
by Sheila from United States
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It's ok for Jennifer Lopez, Britney Spears, Janet jackson to have a "sexy" era. To pose half nude or in a bra/panties pic and it's ok. But Mariah, it's not ok. Every women is due a sexual revolution, right? Why does everyone put Mariah through hell for posing sexy like Jennifer/Janet/Brit? Just does not seem right. Why do we hold Mariah to a different standard than those other ladies?
(Friday 16 September 2016; 1:10)
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Re: Agent provocateur (66,327) (66,328)
by Sheila from United States
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2017 [...] bring back [...] and all Mariah's endorsements. It's coming. [...] new sexy era.
(Friday 16 September 2016; 1:08)
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Re: Agent provocateur (66,325) (66,327)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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I'm pretty sure she doesn't. Mariah has had love for Agent Provocateur for ages now. I clearly remember her talking about their shoes back in the cribs episode where she said she has them in every color. The "slippers" according to Mariah hahah which were those delicate stilettos with matching pom poms. Then she even gifted Ellen some stuff from it back when she went there long time back.
(Thursday 15 September 2016; 21:01)
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Article: "Everyone" should watch Bishop T.D. Jakes' new show (66,326)
by RibbonB from USA
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I think we might start hearing about her faith again soon. Hopefully. I noticed she had a little cross on her neck on the pic with Rocky. Whatever is going on, I hope she gets back to some authenticity vs. all the stunts. Or at least pick better stunts with her and her children's well being in mind.
(Thursday 15 September 2016; 20:18)
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Agent provocateur (66,325)
by Lara from Middle East
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Does Stella have any shares in this company? Check their description on Ig "celebrating and empowering women" sounds so much like every caption of her photos.
(Thursday 15 September 2016; 20:13)
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Re: Empire music (66,323) (66,324)
by RibbonB from USA
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I just heard it on an Empire commercial, but if I track down that moment, I will link it.
(Thursday 15 September 2016; 20:04)
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Re: Empire music (66,319) (66,323)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Link please.
(Thursday 15 September 2016; 18:56)
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Re: Why so melodramatic? (66,318) (66,322)
by Luke from United Kingdom
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I get your points. Although other than fans not enjoying what she's doing, I haven't really seen her getting a bad rep in the press. As far as non fans are concerned she's been revealing since 2001. Even earlier if you want to count Butterfly. I think the thing is she's just not advertised that side of her on her social media accounts. She's always reserved it for album shoots, covers, performances. Compared to other celebs what she's doing is minimal. I think the reason it seems more tacky is because she's never been like this in things like Instagram. Had she been doing it for years most people probably wouldn't care. I do agree she could do with getting the pictures taken by someone older/more professional if that's the road she's going down. One thing I can agree with is why she's involving a 13 year old so much in those moments. Unfortunately she's been classed as a washed up diva for at least 5 years. If anything the comments about her being a diva have gotten less recently. I remember in about 2014 all I was reading in news articles or forums was how much of a self-absorbed diva she is, which I think was an effect of her divorce. That side of things seems to have died down now. I hope she plans to use Mariah's world to enlighten people about why she does the things does and who she really is.
(Thursday 15 September 2016; 17:58)
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Re: Why so melodramatic? (66,317) (66,321)
by RibbonB from USA
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You make some interesting points, but I think M. is already off trend and way off brand. It's like she embraced being a knockoff vs. the designer brand she has been. Knock offs only seem to do well on the streets. The Kardashians are their own cheap brand, being well promoted by the E-vil network, Lol. Mariah was already relevant and could be doing a reality show in conjunction with her tour, on a so much higher level. We shall see if it interests any new fans, while it turns off many old die hard fans. It is a gamble, whether it is her own or she is a big chip is yet to be known.
(Thursday 15 September 2016; 17:41)
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Cute pic with her son (66,320)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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This is the Mariah I love. She looks so beautiful in it. This photo looks like it was taken in 98. Unbelievable. So once again we can see what less make-up can do for a beauty.
(Thursday 15 September 2016; 17:14)
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Re: Empire music (66,312) (66,319)
by RibbonB from USA
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I saw an Empire commercial yesterday and heard a snippet of a song that could have been by Mariah. If it was, it sounded pretty good. I will listen closely the next time I watch Fox. I think these new writers will be good for the show. Jerkins probably bringing the r&b and Dean the more hip hop flare. The music is just the backdrop. While watching Queen Sugar last night, I noticed they used Alabama Shakes' song "Gemini" as a co-star during the love scene with the fine Ralph Angel. Yummy. Lol. That show might become huge for their soundtrack like Empire did in it's first season. I hope Mariah's song on Empire gets a big spot and a big boost.
(Thursday 15 September 2016; 16:38)
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Re: Why so melodramatic? (66,317) (66,318)
by Musti from UK
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I don't deny the need to pull stunts to remain relevant. I also agree that today's industry is very visual and she can't effectively do the same promo today that she did for her earlier albums. Sexy is the easiest way to attract attention and she's a beautiful woman with a gorgeous body. However I think she's gone way beyond sexy. Most of the time it looks tacky and desperate. And she's taken the diva act to incredible heights over the years. When something continuously (and almost universally) gives you bad rep, why continue to do it? Instead of slipping into a sexy dress or doing professional shoots with eye-catching themes, she chooses to have diamond/splash/bra/(almost) nude moments with Mishka's shaky hands on the camera. It is miles beneath her. I probably wouldn't have minded if it was like this once in a while but this is all the time now. What most of us can't stomach is watching her do things that are damaging her and her career. I can never give up on the music. But I can't agree with the way she's currently trying to reignite public interest. It might be good promo for Mariah's World, but what good is it if she ends up destroying her reputation in the process? There will only so be many moments before she's forever known as a washed-up diva.
(Thursday 15 September 2016; 16:26)
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Why so melodramatic? (66,317)
by Luke from United Kingdom
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I understand where people are coming from when they say they're confused about Mariah's new actions involving social media/online persona but you need to lighten up a little. In my opinion it seems to me she's not taking it very seriously and she's having a little fun. I could be wrong and she could be on the path of a midlife crisis but I don't think that's what's happening. When she's not on camera or having pictures taking of her for social media (except for paparazzi) she lets herself go and wears clothes that are comfortable, some of which are completely the opposite of flattering because she doesn't care. Just like most of us would do if we were on holiday. Now it's different when she's doing things for Instagram/social media, she's over top because believe it or not she needs the attention to succeed in this day and age. She may have said she wouldn't do reality TV but that was a different time. This is a time where people want to know everything about celebrities and they want it fast. People feed off revealing shots and controversial images/videos. Look at Katie Hopkins, everyone hated her when she first came out but now she has a massive following. She knew how to be controversial and how to stir it up. Mariah is playing a game in a world which is highly visual compared to 5-10 years ago and I think she's playing it well. She isn't going to get another hit record playing it safe like Celine Dion. It may be shocking to her fans because we know what she's been like in the past but for people who don't follow her yet this might reel them in and they'll find her entertaining. Times have changed, she's changing with it and I'm hopping along for the ride because lifes too short to take this stuff seriously.
(Thursday 15 September 2016; 14:01)
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Re: Mariah Carey (66,308) (66,316)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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I don't really know what to say about the vision situation, different people, different believes but one thing I will say is damn right Mariah deserves the Grammies to be renamed "Mariah Carey Awards" because this woman has single handedly paved the way for so many current stars and been inspiration. I have never heard the term "the new" for any other artist as much as I've heard people say "the new Mariah" and yet the Grammies paid her dust. It's disgusting really.
(Thursday 15 September 2016; 12:07)
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