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Shade (Leona Lewis and interviewer) (54,645) by Billy from Greece I think Mariah is becoming the new Diana Ross of the 1980s for this generation. During the 1980s, a huge backlash started against Diana (in the US) which pretty much ended her career domestically. Stories about her portrayed her in the worst kind of light, as the ultimate ruthless queen bitch who stepped over everyone and every kind of value to achieve what she achieved. I think Mariah has received the same kind of treatment the past 5 years. Here's the latest attack, though I'm not totally sure what the dude is saying because he talks very fast. Is he saying that Mariah cringed when he mentioned Leona winning the X-Factor back in the day or something along the same lines? (Monday 15 June 2015; 20:47)

Kyle / entertainers (54,644) by Marcus from Brazil Janet, Cher, Diana Ross, Madonna, Beyonce are entertainers more than anything. Their shows are spectacles of lights, dance routines, costume changes, stages that morph as if they were in a Broadway show. Mariah is not an entertainer, and with the reputation that she has lost her voice, which would be the only thing people go to her concerts for, then it wouldn't be hard to figure out why she doesn't fill arenas. When Mariah's voice started deteriorating, the focus was switched to her appearance (boobs, weaves, etc), and her diva persona. Somewhere along the way Mariah alienated the fans that were also growing up with her, and she lost most of them. I hope they keep working on getting her into a more positive light, and that she keeps practicing to be consistent, because when Mariah delivers, people pay attention. I would love for her to drop the diva act and the 18 #1's motto because I think those two things are working against her. Mariah's music, when well-cooked and with a twist, speaks for itself. (Monday 15 June 2015; 19:09)

Disconnect (54,643) by Kyle from USA I live in Orlando, FL. It was announced this morning that Janet Jackson is bringing her "Unbreakable" tour here in September to the Orlando Magic arena. It go me thinking: Cher was here earlier in the year and Janet is coming. Both of these artists announce a tour and they seel out arenas instantly. Mariah announces an arena tour, and it's slow ticket sales. Is it because Mariah has remained relevant and in the spot light always releasing material or is there a disconnect somewhere? Cher and Janet have even "older" fans since they have been around a lot longer than MC. Why are "older" fans more supportive than younger fans? (Monday 15 June 2015; 16:46)

Oh (54,642) by darrian liu from taiwan Thanks Bill. I think MC would do a brilliant job at it. But I don't think it's time for her to do a standards album because she's still relevant. Doing standards will do her commercial performance no good. Still waiting for that blockbuster album. *crosses fingers* (Monday 15 June 2015; 6:30)

The creativity of the lambs are (54,641) by Lee TS from USA You know how it goes. This is a cute cartoon version of Infinity. (Monday 15 June 2015; 3:23)

Marissa (54,640) by Special K from USA Hi Marissa. I agree with you to a certain degree but my intent was not to compare Mariah to younger artists. I just feel that none of these younger artists, and mean none can even [...] with Mariah vocally when she is being the best that she can be. Straight up, here in the 2015 when Mariah is having a great vocal performance she can still blow the majority of these younger artists out of the water. They could not hang. I saw Mariah in Vegas and she killed it. I saw her in New York for the Christmas concert and she slayed it vocally. I get she had bronchitis recently but overall basically since TEOM Mariah's live performances have been too inconsistent and forgettable. She need to step up her game. I believe Adele, Beyonce, and Kelly Clarkson will still sound great in their 40's as long as they continue to take care of their voices. Bottom line, despite her age, when Mariah is on point, there is no comparison. That's how much I believe in her talent. (Monday 15 June 2015; 2:33)

Bill (54,639) by Licia from USA Thanks for explaining what a standards album is. I was lost. Lol. Whatever her next move is as far as music, I just want it to be good. (Monday 15 June 2015; 2:05)

Standards (54,638) by Bill from the UK Standards are old timeless songs which countless artists have covered over the years. They were usually written in the 1920s or 30s, but some newer songs have fallen into the category due to their popularity. Songs like Stormy Weather, Star Dust, Moonlight Serenade, Embraceable You etc. are considered standards. I think MC would do a good job because I love the track The Wind from the Emotions album, and that has a similar mellow, low key, jazzy vibe which most standards have. (Monday 15 June 2015; 0:42)

"Meteorite" /"You Make Me Feel (Mighty Real)" (54,637) by Billy from Greece I was just listening to Sylvester's "You Make Me Feel (Mighty Real)" and it brought to mind "Meteorite" in terms of melodic sequences and chorus. Though "Meteorite" does not sample this particular song, it does feel like a homage of sorts. (Sunday 14 June 2015; 23:46)

Christmas time (54,636) by Ty from USA Well lambily they have done a much better job promoting Mariah in a positive light. Infinity is a wrap, no club mixes even Triumphant had resung mixes, late video, same video she has been doing for the last view years. Blah. In four months we have the annual Mariah Christmas music starts. Where the slow build to Christmas it will sound great to hear Mimi back on the radio. (Sunday 14 June 2015; 23:16)

What's a "standards"? (54,635) by darrian liu from taiwan I've been reading the previous posts and some mentioned about a standards album. What is that? Is that some kind of like, covers? (Sunday 14 June 2015; 15:32)

Ardis logic / remix (54,634) by NHYTG from nyc Thanks for posting that one, the best remix of Infinity I've heard so far. I expected some official remixes to be released, but now I don't see it happen anymore. Some already mentioned it before but I also want an album with unreleased tracks from the Sony years, maybe that should have been a better move than releasing #1 To Infinity. At least it would have been more interesting for the fans. I also would have liked a special anniversary edition of the debut album, Don't Play That Song should have been on it. I love Mariah's performance of that song. (Sunday 14 June 2015; 12:38)

Lee TS (54,633) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I am sorry if the post offended you and it wasn't solely about Mariah's contribution. I meant how the today's lot has nothing on what the big 5 had. I can't write about the other 4 since I do not follow their careers so Mariah was an example. But oh well really the post wasn't meant to say they have no talent, I think Beyonce is a good singer and Nicki is a fairly good rapper, but they didn't make any contribution that they will be credited for 25 years from now. They may surpass the records but that's about all. And nope never said Mariah was God. She is just an immensely talented singer-songwriter who still manages to crack top 20 without creating controversies or with the help of collaborating with other hot artists. Whitney was a major addict, Janet had family issues big enough to be on reality TV, Madonna's controversies were huge, but their musical contributions are bigger than their controversies. In today's generation, the controversies are bigger than the music. I hope that explains where my post came from. (Sunday 14 June 2015; 11:26)

Edit to the last post (54,632) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Ugh I meant big 3. Wrote that message at 6 a.m. darlings. But you all get my point. (Sunday 14 June 2015; 11:15)

Special K (54,631) by Marissa from USA I disagree that these younger artists are "blowing Mariah's spot up" on any level. First of all, it's an unfair comparison. The only people Mariah should be compared to are the people in her age bracket. I don't know why when it comes to MC everyone thinks it's justified to compare her to people who are half her age. Also if these kids really were blowing up her spot, it's not that impressive that they could "outdo" her in a performance because when you're young everything is easier to accomplish compared to someone older. Will those same people at age 45 still be killing it on stage or even have the stamina to perform in spite of having bronchitis? These 20 year olds may have better bodies and may not have any vocal struggles but will they have the talent and stamina to be in this industry after 25 years? Mariah doesn't need to take notes from people whose careers are unlikely to make any impact in the long term, she just needs to be the best version of herself, which has always been enough for her to succeed. (Sunday 14 June 2015; 8:00)

Popularized (54,630) by Lee TS from USA In the same token Mariah popularized butterflies and rainbows, mental breakdowns, whistle squeals, lip syncing, and photoshop to the point of catfishing. That post was so shady, for real like hot cable TV. There was nothing nice about the current lot. Mariah is a goddess but she's not literally God and is far from perfect. (Sunday 14 June 2015; 6:18)

Bill / correction to my post (54,629) by Dove from USA Good points Bill. Correction to my post (54,620): When I said Mariah is an emotive interpretive singer, what I meant is that when she sings she makes you feel it, even when she didn't write the songs herself. Maybe that wasn't the proper terminology but it felt right. (Sunday 14 June 2015; 3:51)

MC and the current lot: contribution edition (54,627) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I was thinking about Mariah's contribution to the music industry or let's say things MC popularized/ re-introduced/ "mainstreamed". What comes to mind are "whistles", "melisma", "merging/ mainstreaming Hip Hop with Pop/R&B", creating a holiday staple. (I'm aware that the vocal techniques were there before MC but I'm saying she re-introduced/popularized them.) MC is also known as one of the greatest voices in the world and is an immensely talented songwriter who managed to create a signature sound of her own. (I don't follow other singers as seriously as M but I'm sure for Whitney and Celine, Madge and Janet, one can come up with things they pioneered/re-introduced.) Now let's come to today's music industry starlets. In 25 years, what can we say the current lot popularized/mainstreamed? 1) Beyonce: photoshopped thigh gaps, booty, bodysuits. (Don't get me wrong, she has a good voice but she didn't pioneer anything musically, all she has is borrowed from MC, Madonna and Janet.) 2) Ariana: Cat ear hair bands, bodysuits, high ponytail, failed attempt to be the next MC. (In a world where hitting whistle register is replacing MC.) 3) Miley: Twerking, foam finger violation. 4) Katy Perry: Bra squirting, colored wigs, colorful outfits. 5) Taylor: Boyfriend bashing, breaking YouTube views by forming girl squads. 6) Nicki Minaj: Big butt, loud outfits (to be fair, she re-introduced "Baby Got Back"). 7) Selena Gomez: On and off relationship with Bieber. 8) Iggy Azalea: ? I am lucky to have lived in a time where the big 5 or 4 for now (since Janet is still not back) are still making music. Because once they stop, there is nothing much left. (Sunday 14 June 2015; 1:48)

Infinity (Jasmin's Club Mix) (54,626) by Ardis Logic from Earth Here is a really "hot" remix, for those of you who enjoy the remixes as much as I do. Have a beautiful weekend. (Sunday 14 June 2015; 0:40)

Re: (54,601) by RJJ12 (54,625) by Warrior Butterfly from USA I loved your post about MIAM, very well put. I put on the album recently to listen to it in passing and with exception You Don't Know What to Do and Money I liked it this round. Sometimes being a long time listener can take away from the body of work as it is, seems we're all in a way reaching the original Mariah from 1990 or which ever era you prefer. Also lets forget that MC has been singing for 25 years. If that album had just come out by another artist that was Mariah-ish, meaning we never heard of the MC style what so ever, I bet it would have done well if not better. Think of is a re-introduction. Just a thought. (Saturday 13 June 2015; 22:07)

Shelly / the debut / hiatus (54,624) by Bill from the UK Hi Shelly, that was a sweet note thank you. I've been spending my time listening to the debut and the remixes I have from that era in celebration of the anniversary. The debut album is just so elegant, I love it. I loved the track by track commentary that was posted on this site, great to see the album getting some attention. I'm still holding out for the Legacy Edition to be released, which was rumoured and on release schedules several years back. As for the proposed break, is MC able to take a break? She's never really had a prolonged hiatus before, and we were all going nuts when MIAM was pushed back and no new music was forthcoming. I think if she's happy to keep making music, and it's what she loves (R&B), then carry on regardless. I don't think teaming up with Bruno Mars et al is wise for Mariah as they operate in two different genres and it would be as calculated and conceited as the duet with Westlife here in the UK. (Sips tea.) But that's none of my business, as Kermit (and Mariah) say. (Saturday 13 June 2015; 21:16)

Randy / Stacey (54,622) by Special K from USA Thanks Randy. I haven't posted in awhile but every once in awhile I'll check the message board out. You know Randy if Mariah would humble herself and sit in the audience at these awards shows, she would see how these younger artists are blowing her spot up. That could be inspiring and motivating for her to step her game up when it comes to these live performances. A good manager would suggest that to her. Does Mariah even have a manager? Hey Stacey. Nice to see you up in this piece. How are the kiddos? (Saturday 13 June 2015; 17:25)

Baby / Bill (54,621) by Dove from USA Baby, I don't know him. Sidenote: Bill where are you? I'm missing your classy, beautifully written, lovely posts up in here. (Saturday 13 June 2015; 16:38)

Andrew / RJJ12 (54,620) by Dove from USA Thanks for responding to my post Andrew and RJJ12. I was curious about those 3 because their positions are usually the most different from mine, and it makes me think about it from a different perspective. Thank you for the clip, I had seen it but had forgotten that she said that. L.A. Reid mentioned MC making a standards album, which I would love, but some people don't think it's a good idea. Here's why I like the idea: MC is an emotive and interpretive singer, which many singers of today are not, she will make us feel something. I also think MC would add a modern twist to the songs that would sound more like Amy Winehouse than Lady Gaga. LG's standards album did moderately well and she has a nasally voice, and although technically a good singer, she doesn't emote the way Mariah does. MC already dresses like a chanteuse. The part in the closet in the Infinity video looked awkward because she's dressed like a Barbie while bouncing and rapping. If she laid on a piano or stood in one place it would look normal if she was singing the standards. I've read that when you're stuck in a rut it's better to do anything over nothing. For example, people with writer's block should garden, or do something that is not their bliss. It helps them grow and get centered so that they remember what it is they do love. I would rather have another flop (although I wouldn't call MIAMTEC a flop, it debuted at #3 on the Billboard) than another dead period with no new music. (Saturday 13 June 2015; 16:33)

Re: Shelly (54,618) by Timariah from United States (54,619) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End "How are you, Shelly? Miss you." If that ain't some of the shadiest lines ever written, I am off my game. This board is crazy funny sometimes. Like what's the story with you and Shelly TiMariah? It's freaking Days Of Our Lives on here sometimes. But I live for some drama. Shelly girl, where you at? (Saturday 13 June 2015; 14:28)

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