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Revisiting the album (46,293) by Darryle from USA After hearing about the separation I've revisited MIAM and listened to it all over again. There is a lot of sadness and pain on this album. Some of it disguised by upbeat tempos. If these songs were written before they separated just imagine the album that could come after it. It could be a modern day Butterfly and be very dark and moody or a modern day Rainbow which would be uplifting and happy. Hopefully the latter. (Saturday 23 August 2014; 15:38)

Mariah's tattoo (46,292) by PJW from The U.K. She has "Mrs.cannon" as the body of the butterfly on her lower spine, though she was obviously clever enough to get it done like that so it can be covered over. (Saturday 23 August 2014; 15:04)

Nick / divorce (46,291) by Chicago Lamb from USA I don't have anything personal against Nick. Mariah was happy with him in the beginning and together they brought two beautiful kids into the world. But I don't think he has been very good for her image (at all really since they met) and I support her decision to divorce him, if that's what she needs to do. (Saturday 23 August 2014; 13:46)

May and Abraham (46,290) by Dove from USA Thanks May, I hope you're right. I think you are. I was having a typical emotional upset. I like what you guys wrote about Mariah's lyrics, they are like poetry. Thanks, Abraham, I like your list too. I hadn't heard some of the songs you listed but I looked them up and they were very Mariah. I especially liked Love Is On The Way. When I first heard Halo by Beyonce and We Found Love by Rihanna I wished they were Mariah songs. I also for the longest time wanted Mariah to cover The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face but Leona Lewis already covered it. That song reminds me of when my son was born, I used to sing it to him when he was a baby. But Roberta Flack's is pretty perfect so now I'm glad MC didn't cover it. (Saturday 23 August 2014; 6:52)

Um / Nick and his tattoo / the divorce (46,288) by Edward from USA Um, thanks to the laser technology, Nick will eventually get his tattoo removed. It seems to be Mariah just got tired of being lonely with Nick taking every gig he could when they actually didn't need the money like that. I don't think the comments he made were the cause of the divorce, but other bigger things. Some people are saying he was talking himself out of the marriage on purpose by saying the things he was saying. Since they were still OK when she had the accident and the album was about to drop, I believe most songs from MIAMTEC were written and sung within a years period. By changing the concept of the album, she must've left many songs out to accommodate the new ones. According to TMZ, she made him sign a confidentiality agreement as part of the divorce where he cannot talk about the divorce, but Mariah can on her own terms. Since they have kids, I believe he'll be a gentlemen with this whole situation. As for dem babies, I don't think Nick will neglect them, he'll be in their lives and they'll be just fine. What matters is the love they get from both parents, when two people can't be together, doing it for the kids makes the situation worse. I'm more concerned about Mariah and what she must be going through. (Saturday 23 August 2014; 4:27)

Nick Cannon's dad (46,287) by Ty from USA The messages he put out today about Mariah just hurt. I've been a fan since Vision Of Love, they just hurt. Cry cry cry cry. (Saturday 23 August 2014; 4:16)

A new chapter for Mariah and the lambily (46,286) by Marissa from USA As bad as this time is in Mariah's personal life, it's times like these that bring the lambily closer together. We put aside bulls*** arguments about JD, weight gain, Madonna, and clothing choices and can get back to the basics of our love for Mariah. When major pivotal events like this one happens, nothing else matters but support. One thing "negative" and "positive" lambs alike can agree on is that none of us want to see Mariah or her kids go through such a difficult time. The reason the lambily was so divided and some people just dropped Mariah altogether was because we were all in the dark about what the hell was going on. Whether you were classified as a "negative" or "positive" lamb, we were all piecing together crumbs of information because there was nothing else we could do. Now that things are starting to come to light and make sense maybe we can all focus on our commonality and finally start fresh. (Saturday 23 August 2014; 4:04)

Sad but true (46,285) by Carol from Spain So it's true, the love story is over, the unthinkable happened. This whole era was meant to be like this, I always said, there was something behind the curtains we couldn't see and here it is. Mariah possibly tried to fix things. I couldn't be sadder with this. I just hope the fanbase doesn't start to throw names and accuse, let that be for papparazzi and low class news sites. Mariah actually needs us to be uplifting and remember her why we love her so much. It takes two to make a marriage and I believe both of them failed at some point. Hoping dem babies stay ok because I believe they got both parents who love them. I can't even deal with the idea of Mimi suffering and going trough another divorce again, but she will come back banging. (Saturday 23 August 2014; 2:02)

Mariah lyrics and evolution (46,284) by May from Denmark One of the things that I loved the most about Mariah the first times I could understand what she was saying in her music were the sophisticated lyrics. Her first works sound slightly on the formal side but then you can see how she goes into adding more depth and complexity to her lyrics. The way "Butterfly" is written "I have learned that beauty, has to flourish in the light, wild horses run unbridled or their spirit dies, you have given me the courage to be all that I can", it is poetry. What I also like about her lyrics is that you can always feel reflected with what she has to share, there are songs that can go with any mood like CTTA, because she finds a way to express specific feelings she had but in a way that includes the listener, it's not just her "feeling that", it's like a shared experience. In some of her latest works she has been adding a lot of "daily talk" and street talk, and I get the feeling that is to make it more informal and give the listener more of a personal-friendly approach. Sometimes even for fun songs she has used slangs and up to date colloquialisms like in Touch My Body. She has never hit that low bottom such as "I'm stupid, I'm dumb" and she has still been able to talk about sexual freedom but in a classy insinuating way. Memoirs is perhaps the only one that used the most brand names tho she included some in TEOM, never knew if it was all that new "ad placement" thing lol I don't feel it necessary. Loved your comment Mimi L. Great examples. (Saturday 23 August 2014; 0:43)

this_is_qhm/ KeShawn Taylor / Shelly (46,283) by Abraham from USA I too would have liked Mariah to have had the song "Why oh why". It's a good r&b song. I think all the producers who worked on the "Let's talk about love" album were good. I wonder if they wrote or worked for anyone else? I also would have liked Mariah to have had "Just a little bit of love". It's good to know others want Mariah to cover "You give good love" as a tribute to Whitney. I think she would do a good job. Weren't there rumors about her covering a WH or MJ song for an album? KeShawn, I like your dream covers and ideas. However I would never want to see Mariah smoking. It will ruin a singer's voice. Plus it takes a toll on your looks. Shelly, I like your list as well and I agree with everything you said. I too would be devastated if Mariah were to fall back down again. She really took it hard with Luis Miguel, but I think now that she has kids. They will help keep her strong. I think she's a stronger woman now. But still, hope she is doing okay. I hope she hits it big with her next album. (Saturday 23 August 2014; 0:18)

Shelly don't be down (46,282) by May from Denmark I think that first you should understand that is not really Hollywood that takes people into a down spiral, it happens everyday to everyday people and I could write you just from my life story all those I knew who went and fell down, those who looked for death and those who found them. Mariah has gained experience with the years but what we should remember, is that she is a very mature person and she has always been that way, she is not one to fall for decadence. In my opinion she has always resorted to the phrase "eternally 12" because in reality she has always been the grown up, the adult, the one everyone relied on from very young. Just recall her first interviews, how well centered for her age she was. I think is not fair to compare her with those you mentioned because, aside from Judy Garland who only had one moment of depression that she came out from and had a successful career till the end, the rest were lost in unresolved youth issues, depression and drug addictions. I feel that Mariah has a strong support system in which I think the most important figure is her mother, who is a truly loving and caring mother, unlike MJ's mother. I think some of this new work she has been into, time for herself and her kids will compensate for the frustrations of a divorce. Don't think that those bad things that celebrities go through is only provoked by Hollywood, most of them come with baggage, the media likes to make it big because they are famous but it can happen to anyone. (Saturday 23 August 2014; 0:15)

"One More Try" (46,281) by Billy from Greece Skipping the current flaming issue. I just wanted to say how epic Mariah's version of this classic is. It is so understated that it can be initially mistaken as underwhelming, especially when compared to George Michael's "divalicious" performance. However, it is totally on par with Mariah's other brilliant remakes, only with an extra touch of identification on her part as betrayed by her very introspective delivery. Inimitable interpretation. I'm also very glad that she retained the "breaking" of her voice/phrasing towards the end, as well as the final semi-wail ("autumn boy") which is as live as a studio performance can get. (Friday 22 August 2014; 22:13)

Johnathon (46,275) by KeShawn Taylor from United States I completely agree. There's so many things that could've saved this album. (Friday 22 August 2014; 22:08)

The writing was on the wall (46,271) by B from USA Me. I am Mariah is filled with lyrics about a failed relationship. Thirsty is about Nick's hunger for fame. He told the world he was with Nicole from The Pussycat Dolls and left her for Mariah and that he was with Kim Kardashian. The lyrics speak for themselves. I knew from the first listen that they were having problems. I think this ordeal with inspire Mariah. She'll release an album like Butterfly next. Mark my words. This explains why she didn't promote MIAMTEC. (Friday 22 August 2014; 22:02)

Mariah the lyricist (46,268) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Can we just take a moment and be in awe of Mariah's talent as a lyricist? How does this woman go from mature heartfelt, pain filled lyrics like "I cry and cry while you laugh and laugh at the question, but I need to know" to dissing the crap out of a worthless lover "If we were two Lego blocks, even the Harvard graduating class of 2010, couldn't put us back together again". Then she'll get mushy enough to give teenage girls a run for their money (or well "mushy-ness") with a nice "got photos of us on my refrigerator, videos on my phone, boy I can't erase them, the first text I ever got from you still saved in my inbox and I read it time after time". Then she'll unleash the sexy on you "Tonight I'm gonna need all your attention, close the door, I wanna do things I probably shouldn't mention". The she'll make you cry remembering the loved ones you lost "And I assume that you have reached a better place, still I'd give the world to see your face" (that gets me every single time). She'll teach you that even if it's hard you sometimes need to let go of a loved one to see if they loved you enough to come back "Now I understand to hold you, I must open up my hands and watch you rise". And after you are down crying up a mess over lost love, "You'll change your mind and call my name, soon as you find they're all the same and when you find yourself alone, don't come back crying you should have known". When you are feeling super fabulous "them chickens is ash and I'm lotion" and when you are feeling like crap after looking at the mirror "Just be perfectly imperfect". And when you doubt yourself because people say you are not good enough "trying to get me down, but I won't face the ground, I will rise steadily, sailing out of their reach, oh lord they do try, how to make me feel that I, don't matter at all, but I refuse to falter in what I believe" while you spinning around in the apartment like Mariah. (I love CTTA, way more than Hero, it just raise my spirits everytime.) Anyways, I can go on, but my point is, this woman has such diverse songs and especially lyrics, it's like she has so many sides to her, while all the others just talk about how big their booty is and how they would like to be violated (hello Nicki). (Friday 22 August 2014; 21:38)

KeShawn (46,267) by Jonathan from United States Mariah should do videos for the whole album since it tells a story and release them. Not like Beyonce but more Marina and the Diamonds style because Electra Heart and what she did with it was genius. (Friday 22 August 2014; 20:54)

Like the phoenix (46,266) by Tony from Ireland Hi everybody, it is been a while since I wrote something here. I think that the divorce from Nick is not taking anybody by surprise, we know how Mariah likes to keep her privacy and he was simply too much. I don't think anybody will resist as much as she did and now, while I'm listening to the album as a whole for 10000th time I really think most of the songs are related to Nick especially Faded, Cry and One More Time. It makes sense to think that Mariah did let go from the album promotion because of the mess she was leaving at her home, I would do the same actually, just think about how much effort MC was putting onto the album, how good it is but life is an unstoppable train and Im completely sure she will be back once again like the phoenix. Well, Mariah was ever gone? Love and peace. (Friday 22 August 2014; 19:33)

Random thoughts (46,265) by Dove from USA Mariah won my heart when I was a little girl and she will always be my pretty, cool, older sister; just like Robbin Williams is the father of all of us kids who grew up watching his movies. Maybe I don't know her in real life but I feel like I do know her. When bad things happen to her or I see that she doesn't look well or happy it makes me sad too. I want what's best for her. She has given me so much and I feel like she deserves to be happy and loved. I was listening to her Christmas albums today and I cried. I just thought; what if she falls into a downward spiral, like so many other celebrities have, and she's unable to come back from it. When you look at the pattern of other icons, it's hardly ever good: Michael Jackson, Elvis, Judy Garland, Marilyn Monroe, etc. What does celebrity do to them? It's like they just blow up and when they get too big they just explode. I sincerely hope she will be okay. For some reason I'm not too worried about Nick. (Friday 22 August 2014; 19:23)

MIAMTEC video album ideas (46,262) by KeShawn Taylor from United States Cry. - A black and white video that plays the events leading to the breakup backwards. Starting off with Mariah running backwards from chasing him as he walks out the door. Show incidents of her wrongs and flaws in a relationship and his vulnerability. Mariah is also strected out upon a black piano with flashbacks to that and the visuals of the relationship. Faded. - Video starts off with Mariah texting and smoking. The video highlights her lover's appearance on random nights and disappearance when she is awake. Images are shown of them together and they fade from color to black and white. They are shown in the during the first chorus before he disappears. For the second verse, she is driving through town and images of the two appear in the sky and are in black in white. The video ends with him coming and ringing the doorbell and Mariah turning the front lights off looking at him from the window and the outside fading to Grey. Dedicated - A cookout party with Mariah and Nas there. Visuals of having a good time with people. The screen is split between visuals of the cookout and visuals of nostalgia hip hop/music moments from the 80's, 90's, Mariah's career, Nas' career, and JD's. Thirsty - Mariah in the car with her companion and blasting him for his shortcomings. While also showing off visuals of them out in public and having issues. During the bridge, Mariah and some background dancers perform a routine and she leaves him stranded. Make It Look Good - Starts off with Mariah on the beach on a sunny day and seeing her person of interest walk from the water shirtless. From there she is seen jogging in town while he is driving on the street, and getting a coffee from a cafe and seeing him there. She arrives at a ball and sees him. They dance with several partners and switch off until they dance with one another. Afterwards, he gives her his hotel room key. She shows up and they dance in the room and make out. She wakes up in the morning and gets up to leave. He pulls her back into the bed and holds her. You Don't Know What to Do - Video starts off at a ball. Females are sitting one way and the guys sitting the other way, lead by Mariah and Wale. The two are speaking their parts of the song. During Wale's verse, dancers begin skating around the place. Mariah is seen during her verse and chorus provoking Wale for his wrongs in fun and serious manners. During Wale's second verse, the males take to the stage to perform. Mariah and her girls go up during her chorus and counter perform. The close of the song sees the women walk off the stage after serenading the men to believe they were back in their clutches. Supernatural - Starts off as a home movie of Mariah and her family. The video then turns into highlights of real life and celebrities parents with their children. Meteorite - Mariah is getting ready in the mirror to go out for a night in the town for the first verse. During the first chorus she is riding in the limo to her destination and looking out the window at the sky. During the second verse, she arrives at the event and takes photos and walks the red carpet. For the final chorus she takes the stage at the event and performs. Camouflage - The video is Mariah and her spouse in marital counseling. She sings to him during the counseling sessions as images of their failed relationship flash in and out of the video. During the bridge she goes out to get some air and he comes to comfort her before she gets emotional and sings with power to him. The video ends with them hugging and crying in one another's arms. Money - This video shows off Mariah, Fabolous, and Hit-Boy's flashly lifestyles and appearances at big celebrity filled events while also showing their missing their significant other and highlights of them on jets, cruises, and in lingerie. The entrance of them walking into a party with a band playing during their entrance. It ends with Mariah turning her limo around to go back home. She arrives and gets out of the car in a robe that she unveils lingerie into her lover at the front door. One More Try - Mariah is walking to the beach and receives a message in a bottle. As she walks, video flashbacks are being shown of her and Wentworth Miller from We Belong Together and It's Like That. Other shots are shown of them together. She takes and is scene in her robe with glasses on in her beach house reading the letter. The letter is the lyrics to the first verse from an estranged lover. The second half of the verse is her writing back. This is for both verses. During the chorus Mariah takes her response letter back in a bottle to the water and looks up to see her ex lover, Wentworth Miller, walking towards her. They exchange the verse and chorus and affection towards each other until she runs away. He chases her and pulls a ring out of the sand, the wedding ring. He puts it back on her as they walk off into the water on the beach together. Heavenly - Mariah is watching videos of her past while in a church. Her career is told through videos of her early successes, separation from Tommy, leaving Sony, Glitter, The Emancipation of Mimi, remarriage, and current life. The climax sees her enter the church and sing with a choir. At the end, images of her at different stages of her career are put beside her currently and they all walk out together outside of the church. The Art of Letting Go - The video is set in the home of Mariah and her lover. She is going through his belongings, their memories, before setting the house on fire, on the steps crying. (Friday 22 August 2014; 19:13)

Um (46,261) by Bill from the UK One thing that's just occurred to me. What the hell is Nick gonna do about his tattoo? (Friday 22 August 2014; 19:00)

Me. I Am Mariah... The Elusive Chanteuse promo plans (46,259) by KeShawn Taylor from United States Of course the obvious answers would be to release the album in the summer after #Beautiful or to have not released Triumphant (Get 'Em). Obviously those things did not occur, so here is what I would've done starting with the release of #Beautiful last May. Launch Beautiful in May of 2013. Continue promoting the single up until July 23. Once cancelling the album's summer release, release an EP of about 6 songs to hold fans over until the album's release. Release "The Art of Letting Go" as a album teaser in November and promote it to Adult Contemporary and R&B. Over holiday break 2013, release a compilation of unreleased material from earlier in her career for fans to have music to enjoy until the album. Release "You're Mine (Eternal)" on February 12. [...] Perform live television appearances, etc. Release "Angels Advocate" as a free download in mid March. In April, release a mixtape comprised of remixes of current songs in hip hop, r&b, and pop with Mariah's version and rewritten tracks. After pushing the album's release back from May 6 to the 27, on the 6th release another "EP" of about 8 tracks to serve as a teaser for fans until the album's release date. Beginning May 1, book appearances on The View, The Talk, Good Morning America, The Today Show, relaunch Storytellers, and Behind The Music. Perform at both the Billboard Music Awards and Iheartmusic Awards. The week of the album, release music videos to every single song, two a day. Release "Thirsty" and "You Don't Know What to Do" as singles a week before the album's release. The Monday after the album's release, release a completely new track not on the album. Announce via social media that due to the long wait and excess in material, "Me. I Am Mariah... The Elusive Chanteuse vol. 2" will be released the following day with all new material, lead by the new single released the day before. Include a completely new version of "Triumphant" (solo), "Kick Rocks", "Save The Day", and other non-used material. Promote the three singles and both albums with televised appearances including performing at the BET Awards. Release "Faded" as the final single of vol. 1 in August. Perform at the VMAs. Release new singles from vol. 2 from in September and launch tour in October. I'm sure everyone is tired of my posts but I have one more that I will be posting which are what I believe would've been good video themes for each of the songs on the album. Thanks. (Friday 22 August 2014; 18:53)

"ol this_is_qhm (46,257) by May from Denmark Yeah, I noticed that too, we like similar things including the "writing a lot". Sometimes I'm like "dammit, give me more characters" and I start deleting periods hahaha. Not enough space, I just can't ever seem to simply say "it's a wrap" haha. (Friday 22 August 2014; 18:45)

Great finding Philipp (46,256) by May from Denmark Wow, how amazing is that haha. Like deja vu. Do you have the magazine, does it have pictures or is it only text? If it has pictures I would love to see it. What issue is it? Thanks. (Friday 22 August 2014; 18:41)

Touring (46,255) by Victor from Costa Rica I think Mariah should do a world tour call "The eras of my life" and have special segments dedicated to each of her albums (probably she could dress like some videos in order to represent the most iconic moments of her career). As she has a lot of song under her credit and a lot of hits, I thinks she could do a medley of their songs in order to give fans a little bit of everything. Maybe she could sing one entire song per album (the most popular), and do a medley with the others. That would be fantastic. I want to hear live some songs from Glitter, especially Loverboy. It's not my favorite song, but I know she was going to sing that song during MTV's 20th anniversary, but she couldn't because she had the breakdown. I know that if she would sung it, the song would reached the #1 spot in Billboard. What do you think guy? (Friday 22 August 2014; 18:39)

Proper promotion for Memoirs Of An Imperfect Angel (46,254) by KeShawn Taylor from United States Continuing my most previous post on E=MC2, I believe that Memoirs was not fully capitalized on. If E=MC2 rode its success into the early part of 2009, while Mariah was already working on MOAIA, the album could've fared far better in terms of sales and single success. It could've also assisted "My Love" with The-Dream to be a greater hit. Mapped out below would've been my single projections, in correlation with the release of Angels Advocate, the tour, and Precious. Following this post, I will post what I believe would've been a great approach following the flop of "Triumphant (Get 'Em)". First single - "Obsessed" released in June, perform single at VMAs, BET Awards, and not cancelled Storytellers appearance. Second single - "I Want to Know What Love Is" released in early September, performed on every adult oriented talk show possible. Released music video the day of the album release. And have a much better music video. Third singles - "H.A.T.E.U."/"Angels Cry" released in November. Fourth single/first single to Angels Advocate: "Up Out My Face" remix featuring Nicki Minaj and "Inseparable" featuring Trey Songz. Promote these songs strongly with television appearances. Final single from original album: "Ribbon" (Friday 22 August 2014; 18:31)

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