That's no excuse. If Mariah found it hard singing her songs then she shouldn't have agreed to do Jamaica. I agree with G.G. (for once) that I'm also tired of half a** performances, not singing all the lyrics to the songs. People are paying to see that. It amazes me how no one including her team says nothing. I would never be afraid to address one of my friends. Nina seriously, out of everything that's happened regarding Mariah you're thinking about why her and Nick divorced? LMAO nobody cares about that. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 18:39)
Mariah is in the lowest point of her career (49,708)
by JAXGH from United States
Sad to say but this is even way worse than Glitter. She's emotionally struggling more than ever. The love of her life left (whom she truly loved and cared for), she's got 2 kids on her bag will sadly grow with a broken family, her lip syncing is fully exposed to the public. She now realizes that people are not stupid and can tell she is miming. Especially now that everyone knows those pre-recorded Fantasy vocals she used in her whole entire tour are lipped. All lipped. She realizes people know that she is fooling them, lying to their faces and putting on an act for countless years. This is the reason why she walked off WBT. The fact that people will know that even WBT is lipped. (She used the same pre-recorded vocals since 2008.) She saved herself from more embarrassment and hid behind the speakers. You know karma? This is it. It's coming to get her. You will get burned if you play with fire. I actually respect Kelly Price for keeping it real. You know, she was right. The gimmick really does go too far. And sadly Karma is getting Mariah. All the lies, the gimmicks, the acts she put on are being exposed and is only now catching up to her. People know she's faking it and that's hard for her to take. Stop lip syncing Mariah, this is not fair anymore. I hope this teaches her a lesson to really do something about her voice. Be a real singer. Not a mimer. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 18:34)
Positivity / examples (49,707)
by Marissa from USA
If I have it in for positive lambs in general, why haven't I addressed notoriously positive lambs like Shelly or Nikki? Why? Because their positivity isn't accompanied by condescension and they don't say things that will inevitably stir up strife within the lambily. Here are some of your quotes: 1. "So, saying you're a fan of Mariah Carey since 1901 means nothing." 2. "Shout out to Nick and Tommy's proxies." 3. "It's funny how anyone is allowed to post slanderous things about Mariah under the guise of fandom." 4. "No one could pay me to relinquish the pleasure of watching you dig your own graves." 5. "Also, a negative Lamb is an oxymoron. You're either a lamb or a moron on oxy." There is a difference between being biased towards Mariah and being a genuinely positive person. If positivity was just your life philosophy then you wouldn't feel the need to throw rude comments towards other people within her fanbase (and no, we don't need to prove it to you whether we are actually fans or not). (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 18:32)
Fans deserve to know why Mariah and Nick are divorcing (49,706)
by Nina from USA
I hate it when celebrities, Mariah included, gush about their marriage, sex lives and then when it all eventually falls apart they release a generic statement about how they want people to "respect their privacy". I'm sorry but you can't have it both ways. If you invite the public into your marriage with sexy photo spreads and intimate details you need to also tell us what went wrong. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 17:51)
Mariah needs help (49,705)
by Mohd Syafali Izwan from Malaysia
What really happen to her? She left stage before finishing her performance of WBT? And then came back on stage like nothing happened? This is serious. Mariah, please take care of yourself and focus when doing a performance. Bring back the great Mariah who sang her heart out for the fans. Your focus and passion were not there at the Jamaica Festival. What really happened to you Mariah? (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 17:02)
And so the attack continues? (49,704)
by Anthony Carey from U.K
Well, it is hardly surprising that Mariah puts herself under so much pressure to the point of breaking because if she can't please her so called fans then what chance has she got? Listen folks, yes there is off moments, yes she is struggling emotionally at the moment due to needing to loose some dead weight (as in Cannon) but she is a survivor and strong. She will bounce back and will shine again but they say patience is a virtue. If she is heading back to Sony/Reid then that is a positive step isn't it. Rome wasn't built in a day. As for the lipping /not lipping, who cares, they all do it but I for one have booked to fly to Las Vegas from the UK for Mariah, the show, the whole package not to expect anything but to see my idol. If I had a problem with Mariah or lipping then I would sit at home with my headphones on and play her cds instead. I would like to ask you all one important question: who is perfect every minute and every day? Can you imagine if she cancelled Jamaica last minute? You [...] fans would have hung her yourselves. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 17:00)
Mariah needs love and understanding (49,703)
by Ardis Logic from Earth
The last thing MC needs right now is negative energy. It happened, it was not your greatest moment, but it's over now. Everyday is a new day to make a fresh start. I agree with the person who said something more is going on. Definitely Mariah is going through some personal issues right now. Singing love songs when your heart is broken has got to be very difficult for her (obviously). I know she is a very strong person, she will get through this. My wish is just that those who are fortunate enough to be around her need to show a lot of love and support to her right now. If she is addicted to alcohol or rx drugs of some kind, encourage her to get help. If you love someone you don't want to see them fall. Your real fans will stick by your side what ever happens. That's real unconventional love. Sending lots of love and positive healing energy your way right now Mariah. Keep your head up, try your best and everything will be alright. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 16:47)
Mariah Carey prisoner of her hit sucesses (49,701)
by Gilles from Malta
It must not be easy to sing songs that you wrote about ex relationship or for example "We belong together" to Jamaica. What she made on stage is wow because I would have never thought that will happen one day. Whatever happened and maybe it is a good thing that it did happen because now there will be a lot of change. And thank you, I love Mariah. I have been lucky to see her live a lot but to be honest I am a bit tired to see her perform the same hits. Regarding her voice. She is still very good but she needs as some people say to chill and calm down a bit and make something smooth. We can not change the past. Talking or defending it is like freezing the time on something that is done. I am waiting patiently for the future. I have no advice to give to MC. I think she has been quiet and confused for almost one year and a half. I know MC, a contract is a contract, sometimes I wake up in the morning and I do not feel like so I pretend I'm sick to not do anything, but sometimes you have no choice and you must force yourself and you can crack under pressure or you can succeed. Love you all. Be patient MC 's fans, it is not the end. Sometimes you need to destroy something to make something better. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 16:18)
The problem is (49,699)
by Otti from Belgium
The problem with Mariah is not her singing, not her hair, not her wardrobe. There is something going on with her personal. And that is the divorce issue. She acts really weird lately. Or there's something with her health. We don't know. And we don't know when she signed for this Jazz festival in Jamaica. Even she's not feeling well emotional, she needs to show up. Because she signed this contract. We all know that artists take "medication" to get through something. We need to support her, once she gets through this madness, she can move on with her life. I will never ever write her off. She did so much in her career, that even other great female singers can only dream of. 25 years in this hard music business, and still relevant, no other artist can say that. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 16:12)
This is for G.G. (49,698)
by Lee TS from USA
Ok you're upset. But here's the full clip of WBT with really bad audio. She left during the pre-recorded climax but came back skipping onto the stage improvising at the end. Hope it smoothes over a little bit for you. Yes it's still messy. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 16:04)
Scam (49,697)
by Chicago Lamb from USA
I've searched YouTube and there is only one video of this Fantasy lip-scam. How do we know if its even real? I bet its just a publicity stunt as we all know bad publicity is good publicity. Please someone post different footage and I'll reconsider my position. How could she possibly mouth a melody that differs from the backing track? Sorry, I don't believe everything I see online and neither should you. Call me delusional but I want more proof. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 16:01)
Unaceptable (49,696)
by Jon from Netherlands
I can no longer be a fan. Not of this Mariah. She is destroying something I really liked, admired and was inspired by. There is no excuse or sugar coating this. Mariah was (unlike what people say) a great performer. Performing CTTA at Divas Live or FLAB at Grammys are great examples of hypnotic, irresistible performances (even if they had a bit of lip sync). That Mariah doesn't exist anymore. What exists now is some messy person that appears to be under the influence of something to the point of disrespecting her legacy, her fans and herself. How disrespectful towards yourself can you be to the point of not stopping Fantasy and doing it correctly from the begining? You are making a fool of yourself and you go on? It's insulting to the fans, to the audience and to what she worked so hard to be. Her voice was actually very good but that very weird stage presence makes it painful to watch any more of this mess. If she is having problems stay home. I'm not turning my back to someone that is going through a hard time. I'm turning my back to someone that I've stood by through too many situations and still refuses to get her act together. It's now painful to see her make a mess of herself. It's actually very irritating because she is taking something away from me that was very important. One of these days she is going to suffer the humiliation of being fired from the Las Vegas shows. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 14:59)
If we ignore the problem it doesn't exist (49,695)
by G.G. from USA
I wish all the lambs would get as upset about Mariah's half assed performances as they do of Andrew's opinions. My God, Mariah walked off stage mid song. That was completely unprofessional and disrespectful to the people who went there to see her. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 14:30)
Spare me the song and dance (49,694)
by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
There you go again. Like, where is all this passion and compassion where Mariah is concerned? And don't be ridiculous, I've never offended a lamb in my life. There is no mistaking my posts for anti-lamb or you would have been quoting me instead of trying to rewrite my posts like we all don't have eyes and fingers to scroll with. And stop contradicting yourself. You are, in fact, calling me out for being positive. Just like I address and call out the negativity. Why is it so hard for you guys to stand in your shit? I'm never ever going to apologise or shrink to make room for Mariah bashing. You can dish it out but you sure as hell can't take even a tenth of what you put out. As they say in the movies: You have the right to remain silent, anything you say, can and will be used against you. That isn't me telling you to shut up, by the way. You should keep posting, just know that I'll be ready to post more of my positivity. Action-reaction, yin-yang, ebb-flow, you catch my drift. But unlike some of these random posters I don't have a hidden agenda. And no, Mariah Carey is most definitely not a stock to be bought and sold according to the whims of the market. You do not own any parts of her. Slavery is illegal, in case that statement confused you. Mariah and the Lambily have a mutually beneficial relationship. Don't pretend like being a lamb is anything like being a breast of burden when the only real downside is having to deal with the sheep among us. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 14:05)
Damage control (49,693)
by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia
In my humble view, I would say the best that Mariah and her team could do to control the damage that is done is by releasing a new single and promote the hell out of it with live raw vocal performance. The song must be an inspirational ballad with killer vocals, maybe Bring It On Home or maybe Save The Day. She needs to promote the song on all major tv talkshow, like at David Letterman, The Talk, Ellen, Jimmy Fallon, Jimmy Kimmel, etc. In a way the single could raise higher publicity to her Vegas show. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 13:46)
MimiLamb (49,692)
by Dove from USA
Got it, my mistake. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 13:15)
Shelly (49,691)
by MimiLamb from Germany
I was not reffering to your message at all, sorry if you got that idea. I read that Andrew gave a shout out to the people that are "real" on this board. Saying somebody's name because they replied to you or thank them is something totally different in my opinion and I don't see that as a shout out. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 13:06)
Maybe others need to wake up (49,689)
by Manny from U.S.
This time I do have to say something about this matter. Andrew, I think you should go back and read all your comments. You've been posting very negative comments about Mariah since 2 long years ago. It's not constructive criticism when you only focus on her mishaps and somehow never acknowledge her triumphs. I think you're the one that needs to wake up. For the most part, you are not happy with her. It's not a question of Mariah leaving, it's about you realizing that Mariah does not do it for you anymore. I don't know why you insist on all these harsh criticisms. I challenge you to read your old comments and you'll see who really has the problem here. Why waste your time and keep getting disappointed everytime Mariah messes up? (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 12:26)
MimiLamb (49,688)
by Dove from USA
Not really sure what you meant by the "shout out" comment. I don't need to be on any list or to get a shout out either, that's not why I come here. I just think it's polite to acknowledge when someone is directing a message at me instead of ignoring them. I say "thanks for the shout out" to acknowledge that I read it because I don't know what else to say. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 12:20)
Jamaica (49,687)
by May from Denmark
There are a couple of things that I don't understand about the Jamaica shows. She obviously lip synch Fantasy and had troubles listening to the played recorded and the monitor. But she also had this problem in "TMB" and in "WBT" where she totally snapped. But VOL sounded great, I liked how she improvised things, how she made it more of a "let's enjoy the now", and it was clearly live. So why, if she sang so darling that song, couldn't she sing equally TMB, WBT and Fantasy? Why couldn't she just get rid of the pre-record and go full out live, her voice sounded good. I don't get it. About what I pointed before regarding her wardrobe, is not about the looks, I love when she wears mermaid gowns or short skirts, etc. But I feel that lately her wardrobe is giving her issues. She stopped the show from going on to fix her dress, again. It seems that the monitor plug bothers her a lot, she couldn't stop from picking her white dress when singing. The only thing I would really criticize her is the drinking part. I don't care how much she drinks, she could pass out for all I care in her garden, car, even the street. But on stage she should be solid rock lucid. Maybe the reason why she didn't stay up to the last bit of WTB is because she was feeling impulsive? I do feel, like another poster mentioned, that she will do great in Las Vegas because things will be prepared for her liking, for her voice and surely she will be for the rehearsals. I'm confident she will pick up again. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 12:02)
A couple of things (49,686)
by May from Denmark
First I want to start by thanking Marissa for her post. It's so tiresome the "I'm true fan you all are not" attitude along with the shadings and indirects, I stopped reading those posts long ago because it's all about Mariah the untouchable goddess in the pedestal who is 100% perfect and unless you think alike and suck all Mariah toe nails then you are not a fan. Ridiculous. I think there can always be positive critics, calls of attention, suggestions, ideas of what could change, etc. There is always room for improvement. Regarding Andrew previous post, I agree with some stuff but on some I feel you were very harsh. I quote you "Mariah refusing to acknowledge her mental and vocal problems." What mental problems are you referring to? And I don't think she should retire but instead just snap and put some things together. I agree with the poster that says she has been having hits and misses. Her Rockefeller Christmas show was average to mediocre, truth to be told, but she picked up so well in her Christmas Beacon shows. Then she started the tour with the left foot but went on to finish it in a great note. She needs consistency. Regarding the social media, tabloids always disliked Mariah cause she never was truly scandalous. With the advent of the social media it just got easier to spread the "rumors" and lies and it made it easier to exaggerate or blow out of proportion things. The media don't portray her when she is strong. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 11:52)
I'm not going anywhere (49,685)
by MimiLamb from Germany
The Mariah Carey we see now is the imperfect angel. I don't even want to know how it's for Mariah herself at the moment. I think she is aware that things aren't the way they should, it shows itself in her insecurity when she's on stage. Of course we should voice how we feel and see things in the hopes Mariah sees that we do care. But sometimes worry becomes hate and rudeness, I think that is what puts people off. I don't think there is a lamb/fan/supporter in the land that doesn't get it. I don't need to be in a list of "being real" or get a shout out just because I don't go around voicing my opinion on this board or anywhere else. I know my value as a fan, and I know the faith I have towards my idol. I have read a lot of messages here that I agree on, even the tough love ones. Personal live, personal issues, and what not, is never an excuse it's life and Mariah has just as much right to go through them as we are. We go through ups and downs hopefully with people that help us go through them. So I'm here for her, not turning my back and hopefully with that giving her some strength to pull herself together. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 11:41)
The strength of Mariah (49,683)
by Joseph Akkary from Australia
I have never posted on this site before today, but I have been a fan of Mariah my entire life, and I (through Mariah's undeniable gift) have made many fans out of friends and family. What a strong woman, to stand up in front of the world and show us that, she is not perfect - just like all of us, and the people/fans that are her support tear her down? I commend Mariah for showing that vulnerable side of herself. So maybe we can't all score a home run, but does that mean that we stop playing all together? No, it means that we try our hardest, and the people who truly love you will be left standing by your side. Our idol is giving a great example, that perfection is not always attainable, and that's OK. Watching the performance, I have to say, I am quite worried about my friend. It is obvious that there is some emotional struggle going on, and I hope that she doesn't read all of the negativity that is being posted online (by her "fans"), as it would make it much harder for her. Regardless of any live performance, or any album sales, history has shown that Mariah is a force to be reckoned with. She is a global icon, who has shown a deep love to her fans, and believes in the goodness of the world, and through turmoil, has risen again, and again. Try to bring her down, but she won't face the ground, she will rise steadily, sailing out of your reach. Even on your darkest days, you are still a bright light in my life Mariah. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 10:32)
Andrew (49,682)
by Danny Cedar from uk
Andrew your last post was very annoying. I didn't even read it all. I don't want to be rude but it isn't appropriate to post long anecdote messages like that. It's almost flooding. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 8:19)
The silence of the lambs and the roar of the sheep (49,679)
by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End
You're not pulling the wool over anyone's eyes. Let alone Mariah's. Do you really think she can't tell the difference between a lamb, a sheep and a wolf in sheep's clothing? We all know who we are here. Mariah and those closest to her coined the lamb term. It's curious (well, not really) how some of you will avoid using the word as if it's dirty or something. It's very telling, very telling indeed. This is the internet and this particular message board is open for anyone in the public. Which we love by the way. (Free speech and all that jazz.) Why wouldn't at least one of the readers/posters of this particular site be anti-Mariah Carey at any given moment? The truth is, Mariah has had genuine haters since day one and many of them have kept hating through 25 years and 18 #1's. If you deny the validity of that, chances are you live in a glass house. You know what's truly delusional? It's thinking Mariah Carey is the only person in the world that doesn't have irrational people disliking her every move That's a given in pretty much any other comment section online these days. Perhaps you wanna go on record vouching for every single poster, that's ever made a comment or otherwise interacted with others, since the inception of MCA in 1998? I'll wait. So if you have a tendency to take my posts personally, well go figure, hit dogs hollers. (Tuesday 3 February 2015; 7:39)
I hope this teaches her a lesson to really do something about her voice. Be a real singer. Not a mimer.
That was completely unprofessional and disrespectful to the people who went there to see her.
There you go again. Like, where is all this passion and compassion where Mariah is concerned? And don't be ridiculous, I've never offended a lamb in my life. There is no mistaking my posts for anti-lamb or you would have been quoting me instead of trying to rewrite my posts like we all don't have eyes and fingers to scroll with. And stop contradicting yourself. You are, in fact, calling me out for being positive. Just like I address and call out the negativity. Why is it so hard for you guys to stand in your shit? I'm never ever going to apologise or shrink to make room for Mariah bashing. You can dish it out but you sure as hell can't take even a tenth of what you put out. As they say in the movies: You have the right to remain silent, anything you say, can and will be used against you. That isn't me telling you to shut up, by the way. You should keep posting, just know that I'll be ready to post more of my positivity. Action-reaction, yin-yang, ebb-flow, you catch my drift. But unlike some of these random posters I don't have a hidden agenda. And no, Mariah Carey is most definitely not a stock to be bought and sold according to the whims of the market. You do not own any parts of her. Slavery is illegal, in case that statement confused you. Mariah and the Lambily have a mutually beneficial relationship. Don't pretend like being a lamb is anything like being a breast of burden when the only real downside is having to deal with the sheep among us. 
