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I don't care what she does, she did it (42,262) by Spir Ja from USA
[...] She needs to rest and just be on her own schedule, she's an icon. [...] I want to see her migrate to new vibes, styles, instrumentation and people. Take your time, you [...]. Check moi for my one off's, about to start posting originals as well. Find me at spiritjazzed on YouTube.
(Friday 21 March 2014; 6:11)
Mariah's voice / new era (42,261) by NYHotShotta from USA
Well Mariah has said she's always had vocal nodules put she learned to sing through them. I think she needs to put down the wine and champagne and get her mother to retrain her voice so she could stop depending on vocal tracks so much. As for this era, I really hope her album is solid especially since it's been pushed back so many times. I have a good feeling about her collabo with Q-Tip and her songs with JD and Bryan Michael Cox are usually great. But so for the promo for this album has been lackluster, Mariah needs to really promote this like she did with TEOM.
(Friday 21 March 2014; 4:36)
A not so bad new era (42,260) by Matthew from USA
It's interesting to contrast the tone on this board with the tone of Mariah's social media streams. On the fan site, there is so much worrying, stress, and gloom. On Mariah's site there is just so much giddy happiness and smiles in almost every message posted. I'm not sure what to think about this, but it's definitely interesting that the fans and MC seem to be in two totally different places right now. At the end of the day, I'm happy that she is happy. It wasn't always this way. I remember when the music was her life. She was unlucky in love and felt betrayed by friends but she topped the charts repeatedly. Today, Mariah is married with two kids and it seems like Rihanna and Katy are the ones flying around the globe, doing interviews everywhere, and having tons of success in everything but their personal lives. And that's the catch, isn't it? The price of chart domination is having no personal life, just flights and interviews and your entourage. Mariah has been there and done that and left a record of chart domination that is still unbroken. So maybe we shouldn't be so stressed. Maybe this era isn't about flights and chart domination. Maybe this era is about taking her sweet time to make music because well, because she loves it. Maybe it's the beginning of an often delayed, but not so bad new era.
(Friday 21 March 2014; 4:33)
Personal management (42,259) by Darryle from USA
Has anyone notcied that almost all of Mariah's management has been someone close to her that she was friends with. She needs to stop that because it almost always backfires because that person never says no to her. The only one that kind of worked was Tommy and that failed when they separated. Randy didn't work and Jermaine isn't working. The best one was Benny Medina. They weren't friends so she wasn't comfortable so he did what was best not what she wanted. Does anyone know why she fired Benny Medina? He gets fired from like everybody he manages. Brandy, JLO, Mariah, Usher.
(Friday 21 March 2014; 4:05)
How Mariah looks like (in person) (42,258) by Anonymous from
I've never been close to MC, only in my sweet fantasy. I live in Peru and she never came and never will come here so I would like that some of you, lucky lambs that had the chance to meet her, can relate how Mariah looks like, in person.
(Friday 21 March 2014; 3:38)
The business aspect (42,257) by Marissa from USA
Ok you guys are scaring me now because some of you are confirming my fears. This era definitely feels tragic to me and I'm not even talking about the music, but the business aspect of things. I feel like Mariah and IDJ are at the end of their road. I just wonder what other label Mariah would get on if this doesn't work out. I can't imagine her going back to any of her old labels, so it will be interesting to see what will happen next. I really want Mariah to work with people who are going to get the job done. Forget friends. Mariah does not want to get out of her comfort zone in any way, and that's not good business sense at this point. Total comfort and commercial success cannot coexist. First Randy Jackson as her manager (I don't think anyone was feeling this business move), now JD. Sometimes you may have to work with a person where there's nothing more to your relationship than business, which would be perfect for her at this point. Mariah has to learn to separate business from personal in order to protect her legacy because there are newcomers whose eras have been way tighter than this. I definitely think Mariah needs structure and having strictly business relationships would help give her that.
(Friday 21 March 2014; 0:34)
New album era worries (42,256) by MissunderstoodAngel from United states
I'm so worried that this album is going to be worse than the Memoirs era. Notice I said worse. Memoirs wasn't a bad album at all. The era though was horrible. Her image/ensemble was sloppy. She did very little live promotion, and management completely over looked her with very little promo. That album had some much potential. The title was a big no, too long and unnecessary. "Imperfect" or "Memoirs" itself would of sufficed. Remember, one worded titles are in again and generally sell more. The cover was incredibly boring and didn't really look like an album cover. At that, the middle image would have been enough. She needs to put more work in the presentation of her album covers. Some graphics and color are desperately needed. What gets me is Mariah is no new comer to the scene. She should know how to market and sell an item by now. Why she doesn't do so, I have no idea. Good move though and changing the title of TAOLG. I'm sorry but that flow of words is just nonsense and way too cheesy. So far singles have not been good with the exception of TAOLG. I'm worried. The material doesn't seem like it's going to be good. You're Mine was so basic and uniform, no differentiation what so ever with the song, just kept you waiting for a climax or something about the song to grab on to. She seems careless again like with Memoirs.
(Thursday 20 March 2014; 23:24)
Carly (42,255) by Bill from the UK
I did have to laugh that your message about being censored was censored, haha. Sorry. In other news, I'm sort of anxious that this album may turn into another Angels Advocate. I hope Mariah does something for her birthday (sorry, anniversary of being 12) like she usually does. Even if it's just the title or a snippet from a track, or even the release of Thirsty. That would be great.
(Thursday 20 March 2014; 19:26)
Censorship (42,254) by Me. I am Carly from USA
Wow. My first time being censored. Regarding my comments on [censored]. Not that there's anything wrong with it, Mariah has always been and will always be one of the most beautiful woman on the planet. But it does reflect a certain lack of comfort in her natural self.
(Thursday 20 March 2014; 15:59)
Edward (42,253) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom
That's right, Leona's album is a perfect example. The most annoying part is, IDJ are failing to realise that an album can actually sell without the aid of a massive hit single. Sometimes it is possible to sell an album based on a few strong singles and clever album promotion. Just look at J Cole's Born Sinner album. There was no hit single off of that, but he shifted some very respectable numbers, and achieved a number one album. Unfortunately for Mariah, that ship has probably sailed. The buzz she had in 2012 and 2013 is now gone. To think, Summer 2012 was when the album was due to be released, off of the back of Triumphant, and now fans and casual listeners have been waiting for nearly 2 years since that point. It's not a good look, and her momentum has gone. The signs are promising for Mariah releasing a stellar body of work, but whether it will see the light of day or have the impact it deserves, remains to be seen.
(Thursday 20 March 2014; 12:00)
RadChad (42,252) by Darryle from USA
The Memoirs album cover you thought of would actually be really cute. It would be perfect if on the other side of her was her again like in the actual album cover but with a broken halo/wings to show that she's imperfect.
(Thursday 20 March 2014; 11:14)
State of Mariah's voice (42,251) by Darryle from USA
Mariah's voice is really on/off all the time now. Sometimes she's on her A game, other times she doesn't even have game. There are so many reasons why. Some say she got vocal nodules which would suck, let's hope not. [censored] But really it's probably a bit of all of them. Mariah can improve her voice a lot if she takes care of it. All she has to do is sing in her mid/lower register more instead of busting a whistle and belt in every song, [censored] and finally vocal rest. Unfortunately if Mariah has got vocal nodules. There would be no real way to fix it. If she does have it she's probably really scared because she'd only have 2 options. 1. Have surgery and get them removed which could kill her voice and she'd be like Julie Andrews. 2. Keep them and deal the best she can. Whatever the problem is I hope she can get it fixed because I'd hate for her to go out known for lip syncing everything.
(Thursday 20 March 2014; 11:11)
Songs that should have been singles (42,250) by Darryle from USA
Mariah Carey: Prisoner and There's got to be a way was a single but should have received more promo
Emotions: You're so cold
Music Box: I like the single choices
Merry Christmas: Baby please come home
Daydream: Slipping Away should have been on the album then made a single, it could've been a hit
Butterfly: Breakdown was a single but should have gotten more promo
Rainbow: I like these single choices
Glitter: Want you
Charmbracelet: this album actually has lots of single choices, Clown, You got me, Yours, and The one
TEOM: content with all the singles
E=MC2: Migrate most definitely
MOAIA: Ribbon, Betcha gon' know, and More than just friends
MC2Y: fine with these
(Thursday 20 March 2014; 11:02)
Favorite / least favorite covers (42,249) by RadChad from United States
Favorite album covers: Emotions and TEOM toss up. Emotions was high energy album so being caught in a throwing her hair back moment was very fitting. TEOM: The cover says it all she was ready to reclaim her throne and that she did.
Least favorite album cover: Rainbow and Memoirs. She looked gorgeous and perfect like a doll, but I thought it was oversexualized (booty cheeks) and a tid bit tacky at the time. Lol. It's pretty modest by today's standards though. Memoirs: Would've been cute if it was only the middle picture and she wore a more stylish longer form-fitting satin white dress with angle wings and a halo. Lol.
(Thursday 20 March 2014; 6:55)
Should've been singles (42,248) by RadChad from United States
Mariah Carey: Vanishing
Emotions: To Be Around You: Would've been a perfect closing single.
Music Box: The right choices were made even though the whole album is a gem.
Merry Christmas: All good choices again whole album an epic gem.
Daydream: Personally would've loved to have seen a video for Long Ago, but the right choices were made.
Butterfly: I wish Butterfly and Breakdown would've been properly released and promoted, she would've been at 20 now.
Rainbow: Bliss, I envison her walking through a tropical rainforest much like the cover of "Can't Take That Away" with butterflies, rainbows, and unicorns greeting her as she becomes one with natural. Lol.
Glitter: Didn't Mean To Turn You On with an epic 80's style throwback video, would've turned that album around even though the real fans know it was epic in the first place.
Charmbraclet: The One and Subtle Invitation would've been nice to see a video for and hear on radio.
TEOM: Great choices, but Mine Again and Circles would've just had this album at 20 million by now.
E=MC2: Migrate ofcourse, was actually looking forward to a video and all.
Memoirs: Betcha Gon Know, Inseparable, It's A Wrap, and Candy Bling would've turn this album around. So slept on imo.
Merry Christmas II You: I just want to see her do a video for The First Noel consumed with Roc and Roe moments, I've always felt like this song has a huge spirtual connection with them.
(Thursday 20 March 2014; 6:27)
Stepehen / concern (42,247) by Edward from USA
Stephen, my biggest concern is that maybe a great album will go by unnoticed for all these delays. I have brought the Leona Lewis Glassheart album case here several times. She delayed her album for a whole year, and eventually ended up releasing a solid album, with some of the songs also in acoustic versions as a bonus, but it was too late, since people had gotten tired of waiting, expectations deflated, and the album flipped and flopped. #Beautiful was a new and fresh sound for Mariah, yet things weren't ready and what looked to be a promising era, turned into a disaster. The problem with cooking a last minute single is that there is not much time to produce quality remixes and promote properly. I miss the days when a single and its respective remixes were ready to be released all at once. When the lead single already established the name of forthcoming album it was coming from. Things have changed, I guess.
(Thursday 20 March 2014; 4:04)
Release date (42,246) by enwar00 from usa
I don't really get what some people are saying. Label won't release it unless there's a hit single preceding it, so that it sells and hits high. And since there isn't a hit single right now, they will push it back. But if they push it back, people will be inconvenienced and won't but it. So what would be the purpose of pushing it back then?
(Thursday 20 March 2014; 3:57)
Singles by KaizenOcean (42,245) by Jay from USA
Maybe KaizenOcean meant those singles should have been released in the order he listed them. I don't think that Bye Bye should have been a single. It doesn't sound like a radio friendly song. Migrate of course. I can only imagine if they would have given it the dance remix treatment with resung vocals. I remember when she performed it on SNL and she was on the Ryan Seacrest radio show the next day/week and she said she wasn't happy with the performance. I wonder if any of the dance remixes from the Memoirs album would have been released, if it would have done well on the radio. I was very upset when IDJ scrapped the "Mariah Carey vs Jump Smokers" album. I remember the interviews Jump Smokers were doing while remixing the album and how excited they were to be working with Mariah. Also, very upset about Angels Advocate. Breakdown, also a very wise move had they released it. Lyrically, that song is amazing. It just flows so well. The whole Butterfly album is fantastic. My favorite album by far. From Glitter, a very underrated album for sure, I would have loved for Last Night A DJ Saved My Life to have been released. My favorite performance was on the VH1 Fashion Awards. Of course, the remixes would have been stellar. Especailly if David Morales would have gotten his hands on it. And the video for it was cute. And I thought I was the only one that wanted Now That I Know released as a single. I was so excited when she performed it on tour.
(Thursday 20 March 2014; 3:28)
Album possibly pushed back again (42,244) by Alex from England
I'll be disappointed as hell as I was the first couple of times it happened. But I feel sorry for Mariah the most because she is the one who has to come out and make up excuses for the general public when IDJ are the ones who decide when/if to release the album. Us lambs know that there is something wrong and I think we should be a bit more supportive of Mariah and show her that we are still here and know that this is not her fault. Yes, her voice has changed, yes she lipsynchs way too much, yes I'd like a bit more creativity when it comes to videos; that being said, I just wish her the best and I know she must be the first to be aware of the state of her vocals and how it probably affects her overall confidence as a live singer. Anyway, if IDJ pushes back that album again, I swear I'll lose it lol.
(Thursday 20 March 2014; 3:25)
Edward (42,243) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom
Edward, I hadn't thought of it like that, but you're spot on. Mariah probably has little control over that at this stage. If it gets delayed at this stage, they might as well agree to a mutual termination of her contract. It clearly isn't working.
(Thursday 20 March 2014; 0:52)
Release date (42,241) by G.G. from USA
I will be so mad if she and or IDJ delays the album again. She's been working on this album for what, 4 or 5 years? That is plenty of time to create a great album. Something we are unaware of is going on, either with Mariah or the label or a combination of the two. The album was supposed to be released July 2013. If she pushes it back again, that'll be an entire year delay. I'm a little worried but I'm trying to stay optimistic.
(Wednesday 19 March 2014; 23:57)
Edward and Mus (42,240) by Randy from USA
I completely agree with both of you and to be honest, I do believe the album is going to be pushed back at this point. But what the hell is she gonna tell us? She can't say "I was waiting for it to be heard the way it should be heard, chronically my full journey." She's already used that. She can't say "Right now things aren't going well in my professional life right now" like she did with Rainbow because IDJ could then sue her for a number of things. Listen, in the 90s Mariah was a machine. She released an album a year, for the most part. We've been waiting since September of 2009 for a studio (non-holiday) album. She has already gone through a release date disappointment. She hasn't been honest about a number of things throughout the years and she doesn't have to be; she's a human being before an artist. This is so frustrating though. She has die-hards and how the hell are we supposed to be sticking around for an album that is taking her back to high school? Mirage. (Only the old fans know that reference lol.)
(Wednesday 19 March 2014; 22:59)
Edward (42,239) by Musti from UK
I agree, it is entirely up to IDJ. I bet they regret not releasing the album on 7.23 when #Beautiful was still fairly popular, as YME hasn't had the desired effect. I think Mariah hasn't been happy with IDJ since E=MC2, with Migrate not being relased and all. Especially after Memoirs I think Mariah has been just dying to get the hell out of there. Perhaps that's why she released MCIIY when she did because you're not really expected to produce hits out of a Christmas album so she treated it like a "filler" album. I'm not calling the album itself a filler. Only in relation to the number of albums she has left under her contract. If this is her last album with IDJ, I'm sure they want her to cash in big bucks before she leaves. It must be clear to them at this stage that she is leaving after this album. I just hope they don't push her to do things she doesn't want to do just so she can get a hit.
(Wednesday 19 March 2014; 22:43)
Album covers (42,238) by Musti from UK
My top 2. Best:
#1's - Is it just me or does her posture itself here looks like the number 1, with her right arm sticking out? In any event, there is so much confidence and beauty in that photo.
Butterfly - Especially the cover on the limited Japanese edition, which is the photo featured at the back on the regular version. That's what I call emancipation.
Worst:
Glitter - I'm not even sure what it is. Maybe too much glitter?
Memoirs - Way too much boobage for my taste.
(Wednesday 19 March 2014; 22:27)
IDJ / release date / album needs a hit (42,237) by Edward from USA
IDJ is definitely looking for a hit to carry this album. Mariah doesn't have a say about when the album will be released, it is something more about when would have a better chance at succeeding. If IDJ doesn't think it is a good business move, they won't go ahead with it. The only thing Mariah can do is having her music ready and on point. The way things are, I don't put my hopes on any release date. Only if Mariah have at least a moderate hit like #Beautiful, this album will see the light of day this year. I'm worried because the album might actually turn out to be a gem, but with all these inconveniences, it might fall flat on the charts. People's attention span fluctuates about every minute now. I am still hoping for the best. They are looking for a hit, and they're going to get it even if she has to collaborate with any current pop star, mark my words.
(Wednesday 19 March 2014; 20:54)

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