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Palm concert a blessing in disguise? (48,695) by Cgee54 from Usa I think the Pearl Palms concert is a blessing in disguise because nowadays people need to be reminded of how great Mariah can be live. Yes I agree she doesn't need to prove herself anymore but I think the GP doesn't see that way. This concert is refreshing to hear in audio because of how great she sounds. It may be bootleg perhaps but I think it helps remind the GP of how great she is live when she's rested and calm. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 23:01)

Mariah may not have a "torch song" (48,693) by John from USA When you are an artist/songwriter with an extensive and diverse catalog such as Mariah's, it is hard to just handpick a single song and name it her "torch song". Anybody who has heard of Celine Dion, would quickly say that her torch song would be "My Heart Will Go On", even non-fans (of which I am) and casual fans. With regards to Whitney, ask anyone on the street and "I Will Always Love You" will almost always be the song mentioned. With Mariah, however, ask the casual listener, and it may be "Hero" or "WBT", ask an old school fan, or heck even Snoop, and they'll probably say "Vision of Love". Still, during the winter holidays, when Mariah is all over the airwaves year-after-year, "AIWFCIY" will be her torch song. For those fans who love the hip-hop side of her, it would be "Fantasy (ODB Remix)". Now, isn't it amazing that this amazing musical talent cannot simply be defined by one single (torch) song? (Sunday 21 December 2014; 22:12)

Videos (48,691) by NYHotShotta from USA Here's a couple of cool videos you should check out. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 19:54)

Andrew (48,690) by LC from USA I think it's funny that you call people delusional for thinking Mariah's live voice today is amazing, when you expect her to do all the high notes without lip syncing to qualify as above average. We all see the problem. We're all fans, like you. But, as one of my best lamb friends has said, if you can't see anything good or "above average" in the Mariah today, while I and many of us can, who's loss is it really? We will enjoy ourselves, and still love Mariah's voice and music, while you can go and love the incredible and "above average" vocals of Taylor Swift. Bye. Also, if this isn't amazing, then I don't know what is. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 19:40)

Why silence is not an option (48,689) by Andrew from UK Fighting? Mariah message boards used to be places to read insightful, thought out comments from Mariah fans, it was interesting to read the discussions which were based upon fact, considered opinion and fun. This board in particular has become the chiefdom of a few crazies hell-bent on dominating the conversations with their own style of propaganda and coercion. I see the new low is "nobody respond to people who dare question what we say to be true and they'll disappear". And anyone who uses the word "hater" should be sent back to school. Or to a psychologist. I have loved Mariah's music all my life. I believe she is much better than what she has been doing for the past five years. I believe her choices to be wildly destructive in that time frame. And I won't be silenced by those who try to silence me pretending everything is okay. It's like carrying on with the party whilst the Russians marched on Berlin. Mariah herself deserves and needs a better sort of fandom than that, surely. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 18:51)

Mariah (48,688) by B from USA I'm not delusional or in denial. I love Mariah Carey's music. Forget about all the bloggers and idiots on Twitter and listen to the music. Merry Christmas. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 16:58)

Andrew and qhm (48,687) by Orkun from The Netherlands I like qhm's message to Andrew. Seems very nice to me. I like Andrew's posts. Edgy? Yes. He says it as he sees it and I like it. Andrew, I'm fully cool with your posts. Without your posts, it wouldn't be as exiting to read messages. But hey, that's me. I can only speak for myself obviously. In my opinion, some fans just aren't able to hear the details in vocals. Technically I mean. When it's lipped, they really think it's live. Ironically, when it's live, we know it's live. No debate there. I think Mariah is improving but the problem is this: We have been "fooled" too many times over the past 10 years with lip sync on high notes. Now she is getting more real again. One step at a time. And I really think she will get there. The parts she truly sings live now, are getting better compared to the same live parts of the last 10 years. That's a fact. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 14:21)

Team Mariah prepping/sound checking back stage, warming and stretching her vocals before the 4th Beacon show (48,686) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End Yes Mariah, if you got it flaunt it. Also, a negative Lamb is an oxymoron. You're either a lamb or a moron on oxy. Meanwhile, Mimi is snatching everybody's lives, wrapping it in her custom holiday-paper and giving it back, all in time for Christmas. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 11:43)

Bootleg: at Pearl Palms Concert Theatre (48,685) by PieterLamb from Indonesia I'm just quite surprised how this bootleg item was sold in iTunes. Even many fans site in various social media had promoted this bootleg item quite obviously. You could disagree with me, but if I'm not mistaken Mariah never endorsed a bootleg/pirated item that is not officially released by herself. So I won't buy it. If I want to hear more Mariah's live performance, I could open YouTube. By buying this item, you steal what Mariah deserves. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 11:17)

Andrew (48,684) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines I agree that Mariah's public persona has only grown increasingly un-relatable (it's been O.O.C. since the E=MC2 era). I also agree that lambs have this tendency to act "delusional" at times, making them seem like they're living in a state of denial, and yes, that does get on my nerves at times, but then I'd think of how Mariah gets bashed by the media and haters on other sites as well and realize that I'd rather have people who are uber-supportive to so somehow balance things out. And don't let the "blind allegiance" act fool you. These overly positive lambs see what's wrong. They would rather just black out the negativity and see the good, even if what they see is average by your standards. They are also just being considerate. It's obvious that Mariah's voice isn't in the same effortlessly brilliant state it was in the past. But considering the ravages it has survived over the past quarter of a century, it still stands head and shoulders above what all them regularities out there can offer. Lambs who praise her current voice appreciate the fact that at least she didn't take the Whitney route despite everything she's been through. You may put this message (maybe even me) in your "delusional" pile - I'm fine with that. I'm just being supportive, because I finally realized that if Mariah really wanted the harsh truth, she would have listened to it a long time ago. Just saying. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 8:15)

Re: Pearl Palms concert live by Darryle from Sagamihara, Japan (48,683) by MimiLamb from Germany It's an unofficial release, so Mariah didn't make it available but also she is not making quick money with it as you put it. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 6:19)

Comeback song (48,682) by Darryle from USA I think for Mariah's comeback song she should hop on a song and be a featured guest. Just like IKWYW. It'd be easier to get a top 10 hit as a featured artist I think. She can hop on and it person's song and their publicity will boost hers. Also if the single were to fall flat and not chart she wouldn't be blamed because the song isn't hers. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 5:57)

Pearl theater (48,681) by Darryle from USA I actually don't think it's authorized. It's been released under a different label. Also I noticed that one of the tracks is title Shake It Up. I don't know if it's because it's a mashup of some sort but I believe it's an error. So I'm definetly leaning towards the side unauthorized. Which sucks because one I want to buy it and two it'd just bring even more trouble for Mariah. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 5:47)

Andrew (48,680) by William from Philippines I don't understand what you're fighting for. You're a person full of negativity. I always see you on this site posting negative messages about Mariah. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 5:41)

Don't feed the trolls/haters (48,679) by ktktkt from Philippines Let's just enjoy this holiday without wasting our time to haters. They are "haters" for a reason and there's no way that we can sway them. What we can all do is to ignore them (e.g. don't respond, don't make post for them, don't mention their names, because we all know who they are and they will lurk and lurk since they can't get MCs out of their airheads). We should all spread love and support to our dear MC. If I am a hater of someone, I don't need to "religiously" go to her forum and spread my hatred, that's just so pathetic as I spend most of my time finding glitch to the person I hate so much. It's just doesn't make sense to me. Funny that they are not getting "tired", they must be getting energized bashing MC. The answer is to treat them as if they don't exist. (I'm just going to post it once since they will think that I care to much for them lol. I'm writing to fellow lambies to not entertain these trolls because they don't deserve our attention.) Looking forward to her Beacon performances, I'm positive that MC will slaythose haters again in the Nth time. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 5:34)

Signature song (48,678) by Jon from Netherlands We talked about the song that Mariah is recognized for. I was wondering what song better symbolises Mariah, the song that she could sign underneath saying "this is who I am and what I did as an artist and this reprensents my career". I would say "Fly like a bird": it has the vocals she is known for, the big production, the choir elements she uses often, the religious content that she believes in, it's not a love song (which is not how I think Mariah would like to be remembered) but an inspirational (ish) one which is very Mariah, it's part of her big comeback and a testament of her perserverance and proof of her endurance and that Grammy performance could be the performance for which she is remembered. It is also evidence of her vulnerability as a person and honesty as a songwriter. If I were to choose another one I would say "I wish you well". It's clearly one of her most (if not the most) personal song. I don't think it's very representative of her music though. It's not her typical sound but it represents who Mariah is very well. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 1:58)

Beacon Show (48,677) by Mara from United States Here now waiting for the queen of Christmas herself. Hello to the rest of the lamily that are at tonight's show. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 1:51)

Pearl Palms concert live mp3 (48,676) by Dove from USA Is it authorized? I heard the clips on Amazon and they sounded pretty good. It's only $8.00. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 1:36)

Pearl Palms concert live (48,675) by Darryle from USA So Mariah, I just noticed that Mariah released this onto iTunes. I wonder why? It might be to make some quick money or just because. I'm really just wondering why this concert out of all of them. She's had so many but she chose to release this one. She sounded very good then so I'm considering buying it anyway. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 0:54)

Critics (48,674) by B from USA Who are you guys calling critics? Bloggers like Perez Hilton? I wouldn't take his opinion seriously even if he paid me to do so lol. Rolling Stone, Billboard, and EW gave Mariah's latest album high marks so saying critics don't like her is nonsense. A better statement would be bloggers who were relevant for about five minutes over a decade ago are bitter that she never gave them a moment of her time. (Saturday 20 December 2014; 23:47)

[...] (48,673) by Travon..SweetSweetFantasy from USA Hey my fellow lambs. The 3 week break from this post went swell. I am happy to see more positive, enthusiastic, and less negatively righteous fans overflowing this post. Even through skeptism, negative public opinion, heartache, divorce, being a mother, it is great to finally see Mariah Carey more focused on music. Music is her peace and her fans are her everything. So to see fans support Mariah with less cronstructive critism or borderline negative, is a great thing to see. I believe she is tired of hearing what everybody thinks, including fans. We have the tendancy to expect perfection. We seem to not appreciate the fact that Mariah Carey is human and she loves to show it. I rather see her show how humanly authentic she is than to act fake or perfect like most other pop stars. People will respond better in the long run because imperfections everyone relates to somehow. Thumbs up to those fans on this post that gave constructive critism while keeping Mariah Carey's positive name intact and not giving in to being all constructive, all the time. (Saturday 20 December 2014; 23:06)

Andrew (48,672) by Bill from the UK I cannot for the life of me understand why you visit this website. (Saturday 20 December 2014; 23:06)

Re: Andrew (48,671) by Terna from Nigeria Andrew sorry but you lost me at the "Taylor Swift", such folly are you serious? Smh I can't. Find somewhere else to spit your H.A.T.E.U not here. (Saturday 20 December 2014; 22:48)

Andrew (48,670) by JAXGH from United States Actually the reason why she's not being played is because the radio doesn't like the fact that she has 18 number hits in the US, more than Elvis. Notice after Touch My Body she went down. Then miscarriage happened. Also after the horrible performance of "I'll Be There" in 2009 at MJ's funeral (which was watched by the whole US) everyone thought she lost it and and it started going downhill. To say it isn't as good compared to other releases isn't really true. IWTKWLI was #1 in Brazil for 27 weeks (longest in history). MOAIA debuted #1 in countless countries. Her star power is pretty much still the same in other regions except US. Love Story, Migrate, I'll Be Lovin U Long Time, Stay In Love, Up Out My Face, I Wish You Well, For The Record, Last Kiss, Bye Bye, Angels Cry, HATE U, Inseperable, YDKWTD, Heavenly, Supernatural are all artistically excellent records but are all completely foiled and wasted due to lack of promotion and exposure, bleak music videos and low budget production. Also her arm injury hindered her from doing anything. She just needs to work with a better management, a more honest team, great video directors and stop being late. Her voice might have changed but the skills never left. She still is capable of vocal gymnastics and writing/producing amazing records. Also she's a child of God so never doubt her. She will smash everyone with a new fire album. MOAIA is Glitter, MIAM is Charmbracelet. Watch out for the next one. (Saturday 20 December 2014; 22:04)

Delusion (48,669) by RockyRoc from England Wow, that video that kt posted is amazing, Mariah's singing in the video is definitely above average and more than enough disproves those people who criticised her other recent performance. I think if a delusional obsession exists then a delusional hatred exists too, two equal and opposite forces. Anyway, Mariah is at it again (slaying), but I am a lamb that believes she should tone down the diva, I admit that she does things wrong sometimes, but she has gone through the consequences and I am more than positive about the next year. Merry christmas MC and to the lambs I met at the Mississippi road. (Saturday 20 December 2014; 21:59)

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