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Re: Andrew (48,671) by Terna from Nigeria Andrew sorry but you lost me at the "Taylor Swift", such folly are you serious? Smh I can't. Find somewhere else to spit your H.A.T.E.U not here. (Saturday 20 December 2014; 22:48)

Andrew (48,670) by JAXGH from United States Actually the reason why she's not being played is because the radio doesn't like the fact that she has 18 number hits in the US, more than Elvis. Notice after Touch My Body she went down. Then miscarriage happened. Also after the horrible performance of "I'll Be There" in 2009 at MJ's funeral (which was watched by the whole US) everyone thought she lost it and and it started going downhill. To say it isn't as good compared to other releases isn't really true. IWTKWLI was #1 in Brazil for 27 weeks (longest in history). MOAIA debuted #1 in countless countries. Her star power is pretty much still the same in other regions except US. Love Story, Migrate, I'll Be Lovin U Long Time, Stay In Love, Up Out My Face, I Wish You Well, For The Record, Last Kiss, Bye Bye, Angels Cry, HATE U, Inseperable, YDKWTD, Heavenly, Supernatural are all artistically excellent records but are all completely foiled and wasted due to lack of promotion and exposure, bleak music videos and low budget production. Also her arm injury hindered her from doing anything. She just needs to work with a better management, a more honest team, great video directors and stop being late. Her voice might have changed but the skills never left. She still is capable of vocal gymnastics and writing/producing amazing records. Also she's a child of God so never doubt her. She will smash everyone with a new fire album. MOAIA is Glitter, MIAM is Charmbracelet. Watch out for the next one. (Saturday 20 December 2014; 22:04)

Delusion (48,669) by RockyRoc from England Wow, that video that kt posted is amazing, Mariah's singing in the video is definitely above average and more than enough disproves those people who criticised her other recent performance. I think if a delusional obsession exists then a delusional hatred exists too, two equal and opposite forces. Anyway, Mariah is at it again (slaying), but I am a lamb that believes she should tone down the diva, I admit that she does things wrong sometimes, but she has gone through the consequences and I am more than positive about the next year. Merry christmas MC and to the lambs I met at the Mississippi road. (Saturday 20 December 2014; 21:59)

Jackie Chan (48,667) by Jake from New Zealand Jackie Chan just posted a photo of himself and Mariah on Facebook. Never knew they were friends. (Saturday 20 December 2014; 21:58)

Mariah live (48,666) by NYHotShotta from USA Mariah sounded really good. She's still got it. (Saturday 20 December 2014; 21:34)

Marcus / Beacon Theater (48,665) by Edward from USA Marcus, it's amazing you're flying from Brazil to NY to support Mariah, and on two consecutive nights. Congratulations. I hope you have a great time. It's cold here in NY, so get yourself a coat. (Saturday 20 December 2014; 20:55)

The queen delusion (48,663) by Andrew from UK The comment that current music listeners just "aren't sophistitcated enough" to appreciate Mariah's songs is a new low for "lamb" excuses. People haven't been playing and buying Mariah's music in the last 5 or 6 years is not because it isnt' good, but because it just isn't that good compared to other releases which can be more catchy (e.g. Taylor Swift) more accessible in it's emotional intent (e.g. Adele). Radio also is not interested in Mariah because all she has done in the past 5 years is relate a terribly boring and aloof persona. Also, putting up recordings of average singing, claiming it to be amazing and having disproved earlier criticism (when it doesn't - and she's still lipping the high parts, but we'll wash over that part and pretend it's not true before the "lambs" start bleating) and then pre-empting the intent of the person who disagrees, is an even lower low. It serves to highlight how desperate the maniacal "lambs" are to do or say anything to pretend nothing is wrong. Essentially to be a "lamb" you have to think Mariah is a "queen" who can never do anything wrong, everyone does things wrong to her, critics are "haters", people who don't like her new music are unsophisticated in their taste (pity the fools for liking accessible, relevant music) and the media are just damn right meanies to poor Mariah Carey for pointing out that she is not performing well (after arrogantly holding everybody up for hours and wasting their time just because she decided to). It's funny how the aggressive "lambs" call everyone who disagrees with their needy standpoint "haters" while spouting the most childish, petulant rubbish. I think "delusional" is too light a word. Peace out. (Saturday 20 December 2014; 20:28)

Songtitels missing (48,662) by Otti from Belgium Why are the songtitels in my last post not visible? "Can't take that away" and "Through the rain". (Saturday 20 December 2014; 19:53)

Guess who's coming to town? (48,661) by Marcus from Brazil I'm flying to NY to see Mariah on Sunday and Monday. Now that she has added three non Christmas songs to the set list, I feel I'll be in heaven. I just wanted to share my enthusiasm. (Saturday 20 December 2014; 18:06)

Mariah (48,660) by B from USA I read a comment on YouTube this morning that sums up my opinion on the current state of Mariah's career, she's one song away from a comeback. All she needs is a great song and the public will embrace her again and forget the dismal Rockefeller performance. (Saturday 20 December 2014; 17:34)

Mara (48,659) by enwar00 from usa I hope you have an amazing day, and enjoy the show. Have fun for us lambs that can't make it to the shows. I expect a full report tomorrow. Just kidding. (Saturday 20 December 2014; 17:32)

Otti / show tonight (48,658) by Mara from United States I was just listening to those same songs along with Looking In and felt they fit Mariah today. She always rises. I can't wait to see MC tonight. We are on our way into the city now to spend the day doing some other things, and top it off with Mariah. It's going to be a magical day and night. I can't wait to be in the same room with this amazing woman once again, along with the Lambily. (Saturday 20 December 2014; 16:50)

They can try, but they can't take that away from me (48,657) by Otti from Belgium I read someone's post this week on this board, that Mariah is not the same as she once was, and she's not the same girl that wrote songs like [...] and [...]. What would you do, if people are dragging you down, the last half year at least? Are you gonna release an album? Are you gonna do a tour? Are you gonna sing on the Rockefeller Center? Do 6 Christmas shows? Then songs like [...] and [...] come to my mind. With lines like "They can try but they can't take that away from me. Try to bring me down but I refuse to fall and I can make it through the rain, I can stand up once again." These songs has now I think for Mariah more meaning than ever. (Saturday 20 December 2014; 15:14)

Beacon tonight (48,656) by Ty from USA Today is the Beacon show, the most festive eve before Christmas. Mimi will 100% turn up tonight, looking forward to seeing the lamb family in full force giving our queen the love tonight. Hugs for our lamb family. (Saturday 20 December 2014; 14:24)

Mariah's "depth" (48,655) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines I don't find Mariah's early songwriting better than her current ways. In fact, as "deep" and poetic as she was back then, a lot of her material was also derided for being too schmaltzy and platitudinal. It wasn't until Daydream onwards that she really started exploring different ways to write. So to me, I see it as her having grown enough to write about more stuff in more ways, and that those different ways also happen to compete for a spot on every album she releases, resulting to less of the "deeper" stuff than usual. Cry. and Camouflage prove that she still has that "depth", but now, at least to me, she sounds more convincing because her songwriting has become more "real" in a way. It's closer to real life than it was before, because she is now more detailed and descriptive. She's more comfortable, confident, and versatile now, and can narrate more vividly than she ever did before in a more relatable way. I can relate to "I know you're here baby subconsciously, always somewhere but you're not there for me" more than "Everything fades away, nothing ever stays the same." Past Mariah was a brilliant. Present Mariah is a genius. (Saturday 20 December 2014; 10:36)

ktktkt, enwar00 and Mariah Carey showing off at the 3rd Beacon Christmas concert (48,653) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End Yes, Mariah is that chick that actually sounds better than when she hatched 12 long years ago. Not to quote myself but: Mariah's in great vocal shape and always has been. Pull out them crickets and act like you hear because at this point you have to actively want her to fail you refuse to acknowledge that fact. Don't be mad at us lambs that your bullshit arguments stink. That's what happens when your only sustenance comes from tabloids, gossipmongers, rumourmills and the Chinese whispers of fellow haters. Haters like calling us lambs delusional for standing by Mariah yet they never have anything to say when they see a video like the one you posted KT. Just watch them all ignore that marvellous tone, fluidity, agility and plain ridiculous musical genius with which she sang on the 18th at the Beacon. I'm just praying Team Mariah knows hpw to document these shows if only for her legacy. Enwar, we all know the haters' predictable and dull scripts by now. I'd be surprised if half of the so called "realists" on this board even thumb that video up. It's laughable how it is said with such certainty that Mariah Carey can't sing anymore. That she needs to seriously consider surgery because of her nodules and blah blah blah. Imagine if she ever listened to any of the noxious advice with built in negative assumptions about her? If you walk like a duck and talk like a duck? Chances are, you're a duck. Hit ducks are known to quack.. This message was brought to you by: Pink Yet Lavender. (Saturday 20 December 2014; 5:33)

Lawsuit (48,652) by Darryle from USA There's something fishy about that lawsuit against Mariah. If you weren't getting paid for your work you would have noticed it within the first month or two. Yet this lady continued to work for Mariah for 7 whole years now deciding to come forward. I think they, her and Mariah, had a falling out and now she's out to get revenge. Whatever the case may be I hope it gets sorted out soon. Mariah really doesn't need anymore on her plate. (Saturday 20 December 2014; 4:08)

12/18 show (48,651) by enwar00 from usa Wow it sounds like she fucking killed it last night. I swear every time I see clips and I'm like eh, like from the first show, and hearing all the haterade over and over, and people wanting so bad to count her out, she then sings again and amazes me. Ktktkt thanks for posting those highlights, and I love your caption. (Saturday 20 December 2014; 3:12)

Mariah Carey Christmas special 2014 third day highlight live December 18 in Beacon Theater (48,650) by ktktkt from Philippines Where are the haters? (Saturday 20 December 2014; 2:24)

Re: Nikki / positive lamb theories (48,649) by Marissa from USA When I saw the word delusional in your post it just prompted me to make sure that I got the point across that the questions that I asked weren't meant to be shady or a way to start up the delusional debate again. As far as the haters, I knew that you meant in your post. You were actually talking about people who aren't and never will be fans of Mariah. What I was talking about in my post are the lambs that dismiss other lambs on this messageboard as "haters" if they ever give constructive criticism. I just saw keywords in your post that prompted me to speak, but I wasn't trying to direct that post at you. Sorry for any confusion. I see your point about today's multimedia with the spread of negativity. It's not just journalists or gossip columnists speaking up on issues, it's everyone with a pulse. There used to be a time where you could read about something in the paper or a magazine, formulate your own opinion and move on. Now if you even watch a MC music video online and accidentally scroll down too far into the comments, your whole day could get ruined. (Saturday 20 December 2014; 2:05)

Classic Mariah (48,648) by Warrior Butterfly from USA My favorite look for Mariah in general is the Columbia years. An updated version of Mariah was her flow off the shoulder shifts while on HSN in 2011. I believe it was very fresh but sophisticated. I think she called her gypsy look. Very cute. (Saturday 20 December 2014; 2:01)

AIWFCIY Vevo certified (48,647) by Dove from USA Here is a playlist with four hours of All I Want For Christmas Is You. Open up five windows on your computer (if you want to) and play the playlists all night while you sleep. Make sure to put the playlists on repeat. (Saturday 20 December 2014; 0:56)

AIWFCIY Vevo certified (48,646) by Dove from USA You guys, right now the views are at 96,518,798. Maybe we really can (caps) get it to 100,000,000 by Christmas. (Friday 19 December 2014; 22:01)

Jon / Nikki (48,644) by Dove from USA Jon you're right society is superficial and tacky. My doctor, dentist, and car dealership all have those tabloids in the waiting rooms. What does that say about us? Sometimes I give suggestions on here but it's mostly wishful thinking; I am not going to turn my back on Mariah if she doesn't do what I want her to do. Nikki I also liked your post (48617). You're right Mariah and all the successful entertainers have always had haters. I have noticed a huge influx of support for Mariah since the Rockefeller performance on blogs, articles, social media, and videos so that makes me happy. I know tabloids are not real news and I meant to put it in quotes, Dr. Evil style, but I forgot. I just meant maybe it's good that people are still wanting to talk and know about MC. I don't expect gossipers to give respect, but what worries me about it is: sometimes that's the only side we hear. I dont think there are enough positive stories to counteract the negative ones. I try to read all of the comments on videos or stories about Mariah and, before a few weeks ago, the comments were mostly the same negative things. So it's either the same person or these people are getting their opinions from the same source. That's all I was saying. I wasn't trying to be negative and I believe Mariah's career is far from over. (Friday 19 December 2014; 21:56)

JTTW remix video (48,643) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada I just love this version so much especially because I really feel we get to see Mariah the human being being silly and having fun, beyond all the other stuff that "celebrity" brings. Say what you will about the Tommy years, but the videos she put out for Merry Christmas are just so timeless. (Friday 19 December 2014; 21:54)

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