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Good luck getting a job again (48,701) by nikki from usa This article on overtime is weird. I've been underpaid before, many times in fact. I tell them there's money missing in my check. Guess what? They ask how much, verify it, and say it'll be in my next paycheck. It is. The article says nothing about Mariah refusing payment, rejecting it, or even being told about it to begin with. You just work for 7 years, quit, and sue her? Good luck ever finding work again. I don't know who else would want to hire you after that. A celeb of Mariah's status who employs as many folks as she does isn't going to do her own bookkeeping. How do you work in her home everyday for 7 years and not say, "Hey MC, there's zeros missing in my paycheck?" (Monday 22 December 2014; 1:40)

Misty Moon (48,700) by Marissa from USA Thanks Edward for posting that video. What a gem. I'm making this my new ringtone. (Monday 22 December 2014; 1:31)

Why Butterfly was Mariah's last album (48,699) by nikki from usa That album was epic. It was the epitome of classic, true, and commercial Mariah. I thought she should retire right then because there was no way for her to top it. It seemed as though she did. She created commercial, mature, universal music above all else and was 100% about the music (vocals and time). But, classic Mariah retired. Her next album was #1's and complete closure. She did an epic duet with Whitney which was Mariah's first song for a film that also won an Oscar. For the first time, Mariah was featured on a rapper's hip hop jam with Sweetheart instead of the other way around. She paid homage to her inspiration Marilyn by paying homage to the woman who started her career. She did her first ever real world tour that covered more than 2 continents for once. After that, Mariah was no longer all about the music. She enjoyed parties, friends, and a personal life. Her music became more the kind she loved and wrote about personal and specific experiences. (X-girlfriend) She got involved with movies and creating products. Now, when she gets a hit or critical acclaim I think it means more because the music is more of an artistic expression. TEOM was a perfect blend of classic and retired Mariah. As was #Beautiful. The fact she did a second Christmas album, her Memoirs, and MIAM is announcing retiring the music as her primary. In other words, this woman won't ever truly retire, but her personal life comes first. (Monday 22 December 2014; 0:37)

Misty Moon / Happy Holidays (48,698) by Edward from USA For those who celebrate Christmas: Merry Christmas, and for those who celebrate other holidays: Happy Hanukkah, Happy Ramadan, Happy Kwanzaa. I wanted to say that I don't take anything personal here. For those who couldn't see Mariah this time around, I hope you could see her soon. The experience of being in the same room with Mariah after all these years is still beyond this world. I'm leaving you with this little song Mariah sung for a Japanese commercial more than 15 years ago. (Monday 22 December 2014; 0:07)

What is delusion / today is the day (48,697) by Edward from USA Delusion: "an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder". Now, according to the definition, a statement like "Mariah's voice is in great shape and always has been" is a delusion and whoever said it or agrees with it, is delusional, as simple as that, without sugarcoating it. That Nick has diarrhea of the mouth is a fact, that he is childish is fact, that he didn't keep his nest warm is a fact, that he took advantage of her is pure speculation, since Mariah isn't a gullible Mary Poppins fool. On a positive note: I'm with Marcus and a couple of friends to go see Mariah at Beacon Theater. I was expecting Marcus to quack like a duck, but he is actually a real fan, with over the top Christmas signs and all. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 23:46)

this_is_qhm, Orkun / the neverending story (48,696) by Edward from USA this_is_qhm, your post confirms that keeping your cool and class while getting your point across is best. You didn't risk an ass attack by being agitated, vicious or angry. You conveyed your point of view rather than pushing it onto Andrew. You didn't dismiss his post as wrong either, yet you rebutted some of his views with class. Orkun, be aware that agreeing with Andrew makes the righteous super-fans cook in their own oil. This board is great because of the variety of opinions. I would hate for this to turn into Mariah Daily. Ever since they sold their soul to the "perfect Mariah" image, their site went down the rabbit hole. Eric, thanks for allowing all kinds of news and comments to be posted according to your rules, that's why MCArchives is still popular 17 years later. You've allowed balance, and I appreciate that. I know in the eyes of the super-fans, you are a duck for posting all kind of news about Mariah, and for allowing comments from fans like Andrew, but guess what, we're still here 17 years later. Merry Christmas to you, and thank you again. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 23:14)

Palm concert a blessing in disguise? (48,695) by Cgee54 from Usa I think the Pearl Palms concert is a blessing in disguise because nowadays people need to be reminded of how great Mariah can be live. Yes I agree she doesn't need to prove herself anymore but I think the GP doesn't see that way. This concert is refreshing to hear in audio because of how great she sounds. It may be bootleg perhaps but I think it helps remind the GP of how great she is live when she's rested and calm. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 23:01)

Mariah may not have a "torch song" (48,693) by John from USA When you are an artist/songwriter with an extensive and diverse catalog such as Mariah's, it is hard to just handpick a single song and name it her "torch song". Anybody who has heard of Celine Dion, would quickly say that her torch song would be "My Heart Will Go On", even non-fans (of which I am) and casual fans. With regards to Whitney, ask anyone on the street and "I Will Always Love You" will almost always be the song mentioned. With Mariah, however, ask the casual listener, and it may be "Hero" or "WBT", ask an old school fan, or heck even Snoop, and they'll probably say "Vision of Love". Still, during the winter holidays, when Mariah is all over the airwaves year-after-year, "AIWFCIY" will be her torch song. For those fans who love the hip-hop side of her, it would be "Fantasy (ODB Remix)". Now, isn't it amazing that this amazing musical talent cannot simply be defined by one single (torch) song? (Sunday 21 December 2014; 22:12)

Videos (48,691) by NYHotShotta from USA Here's a couple of cool videos you should check out. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 19:54)

Andrew (48,690) by LC from USA I think it's funny that you call people delusional for thinking Mariah's live voice today is amazing, when you expect her to do all the high notes without lip syncing to qualify as above average. We all see the problem. We're all fans, like you. But, as one of my best lamb friends has said, if you can't see anything good or "above average" in the Mariah today, while I and many of us can, who's loss is it really? We will enjoy ourselves, and still love Mariah's voice and music, while you can go and love the incredible and "above average" vocals of Taylor Swift. Bye. Also, if this isn't amazing, then I don't know what is. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 19:40)

Why silence is not an option (48,689) by Andrew from UK Fighting? Mariah message boards used to be places to read insightful, thought out comments from Mariah fans, it was interesting to read the discussions which were based upon fact, considered opinion and fun. This board in particular has become the chiefdom of a few crazies hell-bent on dominating the conversations with their own style of propaganda and coercion. I see the new low is "nobody respond to people who dare question what we say to be true and they'll disappear". And anyone who uses the word "hater" should be sent back to school. Or to a psychologist. I have loved Mariah's music all my life. I believe she is much better than what she has been doing for the past five years. I believe her choices to be wildly destructive in that time frame. And I won't be silenced by those who try to silence me pretending everything is okay. It's like carrying on with the party whilst the Russians marched on Berlin. Mariah herself deserves and needs a better sort of fandom than that, surely. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 18:51)

Mariah (48,688) by B from USA I'm not delusional or in denial. I love Mariah Carey's music. Forget about all the bloggers and idiots on Twitter and listen to the music. Merry Christmas. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 16:58)

Andrew and qhm (48,687) by Orkun from The Netherlands I like qhm's message to Andrew. Seems very nice to me. I like Andrew's posts. Edgy? Yes. He says it as he sees it and I like it. Andrew, I'm fully cool with your posts. Without your posts, it wouldn't be as exiting to read messages. But hey, that's me. I can only speak for myself obviously. In my opinion, some fans just aren't able to hear the details in vocals. Technically I mean. When it's lipped, they really think it's live. Ironically, when it's live, we know it's live. No debate there. I think Mariah is improving but the problem is this: We have been "fooled" too many times over the past 10 years with lip sync on high notes. Now she is getting more real again. One step at a time. And I really think she will get there. The parts she truly sings live now, are getting better compared to the same live parts of the last 10 years. That's a fact. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 14:21)

Team Mariah prepping/sound checking back stage, warming and stretching her vocals before the 4th Beacon show (48,686) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End Yes Mariah, if you got it flaunt it. Also, a negative Lamb is an oxymoron. You're either a lamb or a moron on oxy. Meanwhile, Mimi is snatching everybody's lives, wrapping it in her custom holiday-paper and giving it back, all in time for Christmas. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 11:43)

Bootleg: at Pearl Palms Concert Theatre (48,685) by PieterLamb from Indonesia I'm just quite surprised how this bootleg item was sold in iTunes. Even many fans site in various social media had promoted this bootleg item quite obviously. You could disagree with me, but if I'm not mistaken Mariah never endorsed a bootleg/pirated item that is not officially released by herself. So I won't buy it. If I want to hear more Mariah's live performance, I could open YouTube. By buying this item, you steal what Mariah deserves. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 11:17)

Andrew (48,684) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines I agree that Mariah's public persona has only grown increasingly un-relatable (it's been O.O.C. since the E=MC2 era). I also agree that lambs have this tendency to act "delusional" at times, making them seem like they're living in a state of denial, and yes, that does get on my nerves at times, but then I'd think of how Mariah gets bashed by the media and haters on other sites as well and realize that I'd rather have people who are uber-supportive to so somehow balance things out. And don't let the "blind allegiance" act fool you. These overly positive lambs see what's wrong. They would rather just black out the negativity and see the good, even if what they see is average by your standards. They are also just being considerate. It's obvious that Mariah's voice isn't in the same effortlessly brilliant state it was in the past. But considering the ravages it has survived over the past quarter of a century, it still stands head and shoulders above what all them regularities out there can offer. Lambs who praise her current voice appreciate the fact that at least she didn't take the Whitney route despite everything she's been through. You may put this message (maybe even me) in your "delusional" pile - I'm fine with that. I'm just being supportive, because I finally realized that if Mariah really wanted the harsh truth, she would have listened to it a long time ago. Just saying. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 8:15)

Re: Pearl Palms concert live by Darryle from Sagamihara, Japan (48,683) by MimiLamb from Germany It's an unofficial release, so Mariah didn't make it available but also she is not making quick money with it as you put it. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 6:19)

Comeback song (48,682) by Darryle from USA I think for Mariah's comeback song she should hop on a song and be a featured guest. Just like IKWYW. It'd be easier to get a top 10 hit as a featured artist I think. She can hop on and it person's song and their publicity will boost hers. Also if the single were to fall flat and not chart she wouldn't be blamed because the song isn't hers. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 5:57)

Pearl theater (48,681) by Darryle from USA I actually don't think it's authorized. It's been released under a different label. Also I noticed that one of the tracks is title Shake It Up. I don't know if it's because it's a mashup of some sort but I believe it's an error. So I'm definetly leaning towards the side unauthorized. Which sucks because one I want to buy it and two it'd just bring even more trouble for Mariah. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 5:47)

Andrew (48,680) by William from Philippines I don't understand what you're fighting for. You're a person full of negativity. I always see you on this site posting negative messages about Mariah. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 5:41)

Don't feed the trolls/haters (48,679) by ktktkt from Philippines Let's just enjoy this holiday without wasting our time to haters. They are "haters" for a reason and there's no way that we can sway them. What we can all do is to ignore them (e.g. don't respond, don't make post for them, don't mention their names, because we all know who they are and they will lurk and lurk since they can't get MCs out of their airheads). We should all spread love and support to our dear MC. If I am a hater of someone, I don't need to "religiously" go to her forum and spread my hatred, that's just so pathetic as I spend most of my time finding glitch to the person I hate so much. It's just doesn't make sense to me. Funny that they are not getting "tired", they must be getting energized bashing MC. The answer is to treat them as if they don't exist. (I'm just going to post it once since they will think that I care to much for them lol. I'm writing to fellow lambies to not entertain these trolls because they don't deserve our attention.) Looking forward to her Beacon performances, I'm positive that MC will slaythose haters again in the Nth time. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 5:34)

Signature song (48,678) by Jon from Netherlands We talked about the song that Mariah is recognized for. I was wondering what song better symbolises Mariah, the song that she could sign underneath saying "this is who I am and what I did as an artist and this reprensents my career". I would say "Fly like a bird": it has the vocals she is known for, the big production, the choir elements she uses often, the religious content that she believes in, it's not a love song (which is not how I think Mariah would like to be remembered) but an inspirational (ish) one which is very Mariah, it's part of her big comeback and a testament of her perserverance and proof of her endurance and that Grammy performance could be the performance for which she is remembered. It is also evidence of her vulnerability as a person and honesty as a songwriter. If I were to choose another one I would say "I wish you well". It's clearly one of her most (if not the most) personal song. I don't think it's very representative of her music though. It's not her typical sound but it represents who Mariah is very well. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 1:58)

Beacon Show (48,677) by Mara from United States Here now waiting for the queen of Christmas herself. Hello to the rest of the lamily that are at tonight's show. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 1:51)

Pearl Palms concert live mp3 (48,676) by Dove from USA Is it authorized? I heard the clips on Amazon and they sounded pretty good. It's only $8.00. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 1:36)

Pearl Palms concert live (48,675) by Darryle from USA So Mariah, I just noticed that Mariah released this onto iTunes. I wonder why? It might be to make some quick money or just because. I'm really just wondering why this concert out of all of them. She's had so many but she chose to release this one. She sounded very good then so I'm considering buying it anyway. (Sunday 21 December 2014; 0:54)

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