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Andrew (47,258) by Kenny from Canada Get the f of this board and leave it for the the "deluded psychopaths" as you put it. That is all. (Tuesday 7 October 2014; 16:54)

Second night of show (47,257) by Mara from United States I believe this was the opening of the second show. I am not speculating about whether she is singing live or not, if it's lipped she still probably recorded these vocal in the studio for this tour so I think they are still recent vocals. What I did notice is how fierce she came on that stage. She had some life after those reviews and the way she flipped her hair and waved around her dress, you can tell she had it in her. MC is a professional and knows she still has a job to do. I love that look on her too. Very honey like. She knows what the people are saying and I give her credit for all she is doing. Whatever the reason she is touring, if it's a contract obligation or she felt she needed it with her personal life, whatever. She is up there for all of them to judge. Just yesterday the tabloids were showing pictures of her husband's basically erasing her name off his back and purposely going out without a shirt knowing the world will see. That has to hurt her. She is not a robot and is a human being and still has children with this man so unfortunately cannot totally cut him out of her life. This must not be easy. She needs her fan base to support her now, not bring her down. Constructive criticism is just that, constructive. Not hurtful and mean. (Tuesday 7 October 2014; 16:19)

Andrew the troll / Mariah "the songbird supreme" (47,256) by Abraham from USA I agree with MimiLamb. That post was down right disrespectful. And it shouldn't have been posted. I don't know what Andrew is even still doing here. It's clear that he's had it and is no longer a fan. Which is fine. No one needs his negative, ridiculous remarks. He reminds so much of Orkun. Anybody remember him? He left the board a few months ago, which I can't deny how glad I was he did. Andrew should do the same. His posts are starting to bore and annoy the hell out of me. You think Mariah's done, cool. You've given your opinion, move on, because it's getting old. But is nice to see some people staying positive and being supportive, while there are others like Andrew who are being down right nasty. When Mariah gets it together and gets her voice back, don't any of you traitors dare come back being nice wanting to be a fans again. Even if God forbid Mariah were to never sing again, it would be sad, yes, but no other new female singer will ever be able to top her. In voice and music. Mariah in my opinion is unmatched as a singer, and has been the last legendary female singer that has sung in a mic sibce Whitney Houston. Even if a person loses their gift, talent. Better that than their soul. Mariah's still alive. And that's something we all should be grateful for. I know I am. (Tuesday 7 October 2014; 14:52)

Emotions (47,255) by B from USA Mariah doing those runs, hitting the notes she was accused of not being able to hit anymore, with her fist pumping and all that attitude was amazing. She came out guns ablazing. Slay the haters. (Tuesday 7 October 2014; 14:29)

Some positives (47,254) by Lee TS from USA Can we congrats MC on looking faboosh? I think she looks absolutely amazing and is really working the outfits, I can do without the black ensem because we've seen so much of it. That little silver number she wears is so daring, that slit is practically up to her hip. Her stage is presence is captivating, diva strutting, hair flipping, and hand emoting. MC doing Emotions in the second show brings me back to her Hawaii Butterfly tour. The clip of dembabies during Supernatural is uber precious. Hoping she can pull off some solid performances in the upcoming shows and impromptu acapella moments. (Tuesday 7 October 2014; 14:25)

Nodules, Manny (47,253) by May from Denmark I always wondered that if it was true about her nodules, why she never got the surgery done. I do have nodules (a dentist found out many years ago) so I looked into the subject at that time. Truth is that the surgery is quite simple and poses risks but are minimal, just like any other operation, even breast implant poses the risk of death and that hasn't stop the Hollywood ladies to get bumpty bump haha. I used to attribute her vocal issues to the overwork after the Daydream tour and such, making her voice become more fragile or because she was singing more nasal. Sometimes I even just thought she had a cold or didn't take care that well her voice (ie. the times she has been in the snow with her jackets down and full bare chest). If she said she has nodules then she should take the surgery in consideration right now. She might probably lose a whole range or just a couple of notes (could that be the reason why she refused in the past) but at this stage in her career obviously the vocal rest and humidifiers (which are all temporal solutions) don't seem to be working anymore. Probably a more definite and permanent solution would be ideal. (Tuesday 7 October 2014; 14:16)

Mariah deserves a chance (47,252) by May from Denmark I think that your latest comments Andrew have been awful, not much because of the points you are making but the way they sound. While I understand this is the internet and reading things is very much different from actually hearing a person with their emotions saying things, I think that your writings are becoming rude. Most of us in this board had a negative comment, a critic, or something not so good to say but everything had been said with respect, there have been - back and forth -, there have been discussions but at the end of the day in a constructive manner, people giving their possible solutions, their ideas for the future, they cry for help, the "I wish Mariah would..." but at the end of the day all still listening and loving "Mariah post 90s". Your comments are being rude because now you are addressing a group of people. You don't like Mariah anymore? Then go listen to Celine Dion. Mariah shouldn't retire because this tour isn't doing great, she shouldn't give up because she is having a hard time. She should take the time after this tour to reflect on her issues, to fix her problems and solve her vocals be it with a doctor or whatever she thinks is the proper thing to do. It might now be late, but she shouldn't just turn around and go back home. While she still lip synched some parts this second time around, she modified the melodies to fit her current voice sounding better and she did the effort of looking with more energy and enthusiastic. (Tuesday 7 October 2014; 13:17)

I agree with these ladies (47,251) by D.D. from USA I agree with these ladies. [Webmaster: This is already the third time someone posts this video.] (Tuesday 7 October 2014; 12:28)

Elusive chanteuse show (47,250) by Patty from Germany I love the new jazzy VOL and the black dress and if she came to Germany, I will do everything for the first row. More German fans here? (Tuesday 7 October 2014; 12:27)

Come again? (47,248) by MimiLamb from Germany I'm sorry but how can somebody that says "Don't ever call me a 'lamb'. It means 'deluded psychopath' to me. This is just beyond. Mariah fans are becoming more of a joke than she is." still be allowed to be on this board. This goes beyond giving an opinion or even giving criticism. This is disrespectful to every person on here. I try to not attack people as a person (as much as I can) but this goes way and beyond for me. (Tuesday 7 October 2014; 12:22)

Go find another artist or diva to support (47,247) by D.D. from USA If you're not a fan of Mariah Carey or her music, what are you still doing here? Go find another Katy, Christina, Britney whatever whoever to support, there are many to choose from. Seriously don't waste your time with all this negativity. It's not cute. Be nice or leave. Enough is enough already. I'm not trying to be mean but most of us are thinking it, I can't be the only one. It's not personal because I don't know any of you but this negativity has to stop. This is not at anybody specifically, it's at everybody that comes her to bash her. Just leave please. Only positive and supportive posts from now. (Tuesday 7 October 2014; 12:05)

Mariah is human, just like you and me, people forget that sometimes (47,246) by D.D. from USA I have been a fan of Mariah Carey's music for a long time. I am 33 years old, Libra. I am just grateful to listen to the music she creates, new or old. I will agree with her and others when saying that her music is the soundtrack to my life, there's always a song to relate to and enjoy. I wish people would just support her as the unique and talented artist that she is because that is what ultimately fuels the artist to keep making great music. Mariah is a genius in many ways, but musically she is in her element. She deserves credit for so much in music, most notably bringing hip hop to mainstream music. I don't think that she can do wrong in the studio, I pretty much like or love everything she's ever recorded. I think the best thing we could do as "fans" is to support Mariah, you watch video clips of her Elusive Chanteuse Tour and you can tell she is struggling and wants to deliver what the fans came for, and in my opinion she does deliver just by going to work during this difficult time in her life. Your heart just has to go out for her for being strong and moving on. My point is I love her music I don't care what anyone thinks. Her music helps me through the hard times in my life. I can listen to my (extensive) Mariah collection all day. We should all just chill and be supportive (nice) or leave. She is human and deserves more respect and support. Peace and I hope to be posting more often now that I have joined. (Tuesday 7 October 2014; 11:56)

Opinions (47,245) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands I'm sorry, but I can't keep quit anymore. The last couple of days several people have stated their opinion and I'm OK with that, the good and the bad. But what bothers me is that fans who will support Mariah through thick and thin are called delusional or even "deluded psychopaths". We know you don't like Mariah's current voice, you've made your point over and over again, there is no need to keep telling us that several times a day. It's time for you to move on. You're only annoying other fans. And if want Mariah to stop singing, maybe it's time for you to stop being a fan. Fortunately Mariah still has fans who will support her, who keep believing in her, who wish the best for her and who hope Mariah will keep singing. After all, that's what fans do. And I am proud to be one of them. (Tuesday 7 October 2014; 11:53)

Really? (47,244) by Andrew from UK I find it hilarious that someone posts a video of Mariah's second concert where she is clearly lip-syncing and says "she's live, she's back". She's lip syncing. Don't ever call me a "lamb". It means "deluded psychopath" to me. This is just beyond. Mariah fans are becoming more of a joke than she is. She can't physically sing. It's time to stop. What a farce. (Tuesday 7 October 2014; 11:25)

LC / stupid / the pressure cooker (47,243) by Edward from USA LC, would you be kind enough to show me any instance where I have called/implied that anybody was stupid on this board? When all the chaos exploded related to her first show, I didn't say anything about it because it was evident the sentiment of most fans, not only here but basically everywhere. Whitney had an addiction, but we all knew that. Most of us felt for her and hoped for her recovery. Mariah has been having issues with her voice for 17 years now, and we have not clue other than some comment she made about her nodules, and our own speculations. If your boss knows your limitations, he won't ask you to do something you can't do, otherwise you shouldn't complain when he expects you to deliver. Mariah presents herself as "The Voice". Some of the harsh criticism she has received here the last couple of days has been years of frustrations in a pressure cooker. I don't believe some random people just showed up here to hate on Mariah, those who are complaining have supported her as much as anybody else. Tough love sometimes is much needed. Peace. (Tuesday 7 October 2014; 10:52)

Lamb or fan? (47,242) by Travon..SweetSweetFantasy from USA I am a true lamb. Since 2005 there is not one day I don't keep updated. On a typical day I research Mariah Carey news, videos, music, and personal life over 20 times on average. I love her for her music and the fact I can relate specificately to hatsh upbringings. She was my friend I never had during that period of my life. I was bullied at school everyday to where education seemed extremely difficult and my family was a neglectful during that time. My only outlet with no friends was discovering that music even existed. I was 13 with no understanding of singers and basically no life. Mariah introduced me to music in singing form with her The Emancipation Of Mimi album. Masterclass album with a classy lady who overcame the stereotype of glitter. People said her career is over. She proved everyone wrong. She proved to a struggling 13 year old boy that there is always hope. I learned more from her than my family or school. So I appreciate everyone's concern but it only saddens me to see the loss of respect amongst certain fans. If you were in her shoes, what would you do? Would you work or would you stress about what everyone is saying and become depressed, eventually breakdown. Me, I prefer her to continue working without acknowledging certain concerns we all know she will fix on her own. She is continuing to prove the skeptors wrong and she continues to give me hope. (Tuesday 7 October 2014; 10:08)

Second coming (47,241) by 123 from USA So after watching, what were Mariah's worst performances, all of a sudden, she has a second show, she not only rested, but revitalized. She's not only singing live, but actually performing. I have only seen glimmers here in there for the past several years but last night was resurgence. What I noticed is that I have been witnessing a sad and depressed woman for the past year that is finally coming out of that. Sometimes you have to hit rock bottom to rise up again. Damn you Mariah, I should know better than to count you out. Because you always comeback. I'll be praying for her. (Tuesday 7 October 2014; 9:34)

Drama, this, that, the other (47,240) by MimiLamb from Germany I pray to God Mariah never read what has been written here the last few days. The way some are talking is disgusting and has nothing to do with being real or giving an honest opinion. The moment I would ever talk about Mariah like that is the moment I stop being a fan, it's that simple. I get so tired having to justify my support to Mariah, because the minute you do, you be called delusional or living in a bubble. If you rather focus on the negativity alone and think that will help, be my guest. I think there should be a balance between the positive and the negative. Would you improve your work ethic if your boss constantly puts you down, is rude and gives you no respect? Nobody can function like that. I read some messages that have positive criticism and I agree and think this could really help. They balance the negative with the positive. But I also read a lot of "so called" positive criticism but in truth is nothing more than pure hate. I know some think they are above the rest the minute they post here but like everybody else you share your opinion that is in no way worth more as another person's opinion. Like some fans use every excuse to justify Mariah's vocals, some of you use every excuse to be negative and harsh. This negativity is going to be the tone for quite some time here on this board and that is kind of sad to know. (Tuesday 7 October 2014; 8:35)

What needs to be done (47,238) by juan from Dubai As we are sure Mariah's legendary voice is not as flexible as before, it has not left. In fact it became richer in tone, soul, layers including rasp and scratches. but it became more sensitive and difficult to manage just like her projected persona. Mariah needs to listen. Needs to know what the people, the media, critics, new fans are saying based on what they are seeing at the moment. She can live based on her track record, but she cannot create new fan-base on what she shows right now. Fans/lambs, we know she still has the best voice up to this time, but lets face it, she needs to figure it out how she can stand on her title "The Voice". Even though the Yokohama performance is better, the voice is still definitely elusive. (Tuesday 7 October 2014; 7:44)

Let it be (47,237) by David F from Mexico I am a true fan and usually on my free time I like to clean my house or do help washing my clothes, well I play my Marian Carey CDs from the first to the last if I have more time of course, and as I listen the songs I sing them too, I find hard to sing the songs because I am not the same adolescent I am 35 years old but I love the writing and the music and the voice she puts to them. I understand her so well because she is like a bird that only brings the best when you don't expect it, she is working and like any job we make mistakes, but I love that she is enjoying the tour thing that is life for a musician seeing that they hear you sing is the greatest feeling and satisfaction, just don't expect her to be perfect because we are not, are you? And I think that she will continue getting better because she is awakening from all the bad situations by seeing that she is loved by the audience, any artist sense and needs to be loved that way, if you look close she is doing the best and I find the voice angelical, if not better I feel her spirit but I think her children are the reason she is working for and God will reward her for sharing the love messages and the ones in Asia you better enjoy it because this could be the last tour for them. Love and peace. (Tuesday 7 October 2014; 7:44)

LC (47,236) by Mara from United States Can I just say thank you? Thank you for saying exactly what is on my mind everytime I read these boards. We are not wearing blinders, we know and have known what has been happening. That is all. But again, everything you said is everything I feel. So thank you. (Tuesday 7 October 2014; 7:10)

My apologies (47,235) by Dove from USA I apologize if I made anyone feel badly or unwelcome for sharing their opinion. I guess I just get defensive because Mariah Carey is such an integral part of who I am. When people attack her, I feel like I'm being attacked. I forgot that everyone's opinion has value, even the opposing ones that we don't like. (Tuesday 7 October 2014; 5:46)

Cry. (47,234) by Andrew from UK I have the utmost respect for Edward. I made fun of his postings about lists and encouraged people to list list. Because I personally think that an expression of joy in the *music* and the incomparable songbook is great. We all have lists. It is global, eternal and incomparable. Give me any other artist's fan and I will hit them with the Mariah songbook and it's popular music telling of the human condition. I honestly, reasonably have that argument to make. But I have to hit this home now. Because I love her. We need to address this as her fans - not "lambs". I honestly believe we need to start talking to her about where it is going. I can stop hurting you. I know I am. But please, if you could say something to Mariah now, if she was reading this, and I believe she does, what would you say to her? "It's awful but I love you, keep with the ridiculous behaviour? Love your lip sync. Love the look. Love the promo. Love the songs you barely feature on. Love that you can't sing your own songs." I feel, I *feel* the time is nigh to stop. To say: "Hi guys, I did it. I did it. Nobody else did that. But I can't lie anymore." I'm more heartbroken than all of you in my head. I'm with Anthony. I couldn't take people to her concert. Even the bogus UK ones posted here. (Tuesday 7 October 2014; 3:02)

The ladies of the talk speaking like true lambs (47,233) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End This clip sums up perfectly what is wrong with many of the comments this past weekend about Mariah's opening night in Tokyo. What does it say about you if casual fans and women employed to gossip have more compassion for Mariah than some of you so called "lambs" do? Maybe you need to downgrade to sheep and join the rest of the hatebrigade like all the other [censored] who are just waiting for Mariah to slip up so their lesser faves have a chance to be relevant. (Tuesday 7 October 2014; 2:51)

I have never (47,232) by Anthony Basco from Cardiff, Wales I have never said anyone is delusional and I wouldn't say that. And nor do I need to justify my opinions and feelings to you. I am expressing concern for someone who is my idol. I really love Mariah and always will, I just don't want her to take this lying down. (Tuesday 7 October 2014; 2:42)

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