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Nick's "Thirsty" comment / poor dembabies (46,436) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines There was something wrong before MIAMTEC got released, Nick said Thirsty was one of his fave joints from it. When I first heard it, I knew he was being sarcastic. There's just no way he could've missed it, even if he weren't the sharpest tool in the shed. And now it's come to this. They say dem stars never get used to controversies. They just learn deal with them through time. Mariah's been at this for 24 years now, but even that didn't necessarily thicken her skin enough to be unaffected by all this crap thrown at her. I'm just glad she has two angels that give her even more reason to keep on keeping on. But nevermind the fact that MC and NC aren't doing well right now - they're adults - it'll be difficult at first, but at least we can say they're gonna recover at some point. It's dembabies I'm worried about most, because they'll be dealt the worst blow. They're so young. It's unfair to them. This reminds me of the lyrics to a Janet song, "Children are called the future of an adult world. They are born with spirits so innocent 'til we teach them how to hate. Living in a world they didn't make. Living in a world where grown-ups make the rules. Paying for a lot of adult mistakes. How much of this madness can they take?" I hope they'll be alright. (Wednesday 27 August 2014; 14:59)

If It's Over (46,435) by Martyn from England, UK The MTV Unplugged version is one of my all time favourite Mariah performances. It gives me shivers every time I listen to it. On days when I'm feeling a bit rubbish, I pop my earphones in and pretend to be 1992 Mariah for those 3 minutes and 48 seconds, and everything is resolved. (Wednesday 27 August 2014; 14:53)

The non-elusive chanteuse (46,434) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Mariah has been out and about in the open three days in a row starting on the 24th at Central Park. This is the most I have seen of her in years. She is basically being photographed every single day the last 3 days. And another common thing is in all these 3 days she has no makeup on, her hair is not done (she has the natural spiral curls and they are just tied loosely) and she is wearing slightly less comfortable clothes although the sky high heels remain intact (come on, you can't expect the woman to give up everything). She is probably trying to send a message that she is doing just fine. (Wednesday 27 August 2014; 13:24)

IheartMC (46,433) by Bill from the UK You're not alone, I often go back to old songs. There are so many gems hidden away on her albums, and If It's Over is certainly one of them. I love the Emotions album, and am often surprised fans don't rate it that highly as it's so mature, varied, atmospheric and melodic. A beautiful record and one which really shows off just how astonishing her vocals can be. (Wednesday 27 August 2014; 13:23)

Mariah's biggest hits redone with an orchestra (46,432) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines I hate to take a page off Kylie's book again, but in line with her celebration of her 25th year in the industry in 2012, she released The Abbey Road Sessions, an album of orchestral renditions of most of her biggest hits. It made for a really interesting listen (especially the ballad versions of her upbeat hits Better The Devil You Know and Never Too Far, as well as Bond-soundtrack re-imaginations of Can't Get You Out Of My Head and Confide In Me). Woudn't it just be lovely if Mariah did the same? I mean, her voice sounds good on everything, but I believe the chemistry of her voice with live, organic production would just be magical. I'd be really curious to hear live instrument driven versions of her hits. Imagine what she'll do to rework her upbeat hits like Honey, Fantasy, Heartbreaker, etc. It would be nostalgic, but not in the usual greatest-hits-compilation kinda way. If artists of lesser vocal prowess like Kylie and Madonna can pull off recording an orchestral album, then I'm sure Mariah definitely can with even more satisfying results. I really hope she considers doing this in the future. (Wednesday 27 August 2014; 12:10)

Fabulous hats (46,431) by Martyn from England, UK I see Mariah has been wearing unnecessarily over the top headgear over the past few days. I really hope this is a new thing. There's nothing that says "I'm moving on with my life" more than a dramatic hat. Well done Mimi. (Wednesday 27 August 2014; 11:23)

Divorce sum up, just the facts (46,430) by nikki from usa Both Mariah and Nick are still wearing their wedding bands in every pic that's been taken of them so far. Nick recently left their home in NYC with a smile on his face. They had dinner last Friday night. That certainly looks like divorce with no reconciliation. Nick's dad was plugging a book he wrote on relationships from 2011 and the media spun it to be about MC and his son. Neither Nick or his wife are commenting and apparently this translates to Mariah having a muzzle on Nick. (Wednesday 27 August 2014; 9:48)

Andrew (46,429) by Abraham from USA If you feel the end of Mariah's career is near, that's you. She doesn't need people like you trying to bring her down. Especially now, thankfully she has fans who still believe in her. She's surely capable of having at least one more good successful era. (Wednesday 27 August 2014; 9:38)

Mimi's penchant for multisyllabic language (46,428) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Probably the most interesting thing to me about Mariah's songwriting is her fearless use of multisyllabic words that not even rappers would think of using in their songs. I mean "reverberating", "dominion", and "audacity" are more than enough to send one running for the dictionary several times - and that's just from one song. That's pretty much up there with Shakira inclusion of "lycanthropy" on She Wolf. It's impressive and somehow hilarious at the same time. I mean I've once stumbled upon this glossary a fan has made on the more difficult words Mimi has ever used and it was quite the long list. If constantly getting away with using of such words isn't a sign of great songwriting, then I don't know what is. Genius. (Wednesday 27 August 2014; 9:02)

Bill (46,427) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Not only were the song choices on point, I liked the sequencing. Plus the list was fairly sized. I know a lot of us would love for Mariah to sing a lot of songs, but there are physical limitations. Some of the lists posted were really long. That would not be possible, and we all know Mariah has a condition where if she would try to sing too much, it would affect her voice. Plus it's not a one night gig, she'll be flying to several countries and have to do the same routine multiple times and that would really strain her voice. It's hard enough to do it, but its harder when one is singing Mariah songs. (Wednesday 27 August 2014; 8:50)

Random thought (46,426) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter So Mariah was spotted wearing a long red gown in France around June. This is around the time we were all jumping up and down thinking YDKWTD video was being shot. She had a white towel covering her chest, while she is entering a building. I wonder what was going on. If it was a random candid she obviously would not have a towel on her in public. It seemed more like she was either coming from or going to a shoot. I guess we won't really know now that it has been over 2 months. (Wednesday 27 August 2014; 8:43)

Mariah out again (46,425) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Mariah as out and about on the streets again. With that fabulous hat she was career around the first time. Miss Mariah what are you up to? I am just glad she is not holed up at home being miserable. (Wednesday 27 August 2014; 7:23)

Nikki / shade throwing (46,424) by Marissa from USA I get where you're coming from, but the media will trash you whether you stay silent or speak up. The "she's a has-been", "she's old", "she's a slavedriver" comments will come rolling out regardless. The media doesn't just disappear if you try to put them in check. In fact, they come at you even harder if you give them any fuel to talk. Although I want to know the details, I feel like her approach of keeping her privacy is the best. On another note, why is throwing shade so glorified and considered classier than just saying what you have to say outright? Mariah is a shady grove when she's pissed and I'm not gonna give her brownie points just because she's not cussing people out or blatantly name calling. Saying something slick and giving a smirk afterward isn't class, it's passive aggression. Making insults in a more demure way doesn't take away from the fact that you're making insults. I hope both of them take the true classy route and either say something positive or at least neutral or nothing at all for the sake of their kids. (Wednesday 27 August 2014; 6:31)

"Fantasy" on Kimbra's "Carolina" (46,423) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines About a month ago, I've posted about Kimbra lovingly name-dropping Mariah in her weird lead single from her second album. Well "The Golden Echo" dropped last week and I've listened to it, and I must say it's the most intoxicatingly psychedelic plethora of sounds and random unpredictable melodies I've ever heard from an artist who isn't Prince or Björk. What's interesting, though, is Mariah's clear influence in the vocal layering on the entire album. It's just as smooth as Mimi's, except that Kimbra adds her usual over-the-top intricate details to it to make it her own. I really suggest you all check out this track "Carolina". You could tell by the intro alone how Kimbra treats Fantasy like it's the gospel. Mariah will always be relevant. Always. (Wednesday 27 August 2014; 6:22)

How about don't retire (46,422) by enwar00 from usa I may be the only person who feels this way, and maybe I'm selfish or delusional in comparison to other opinions, but if Mariah was to never sing live again or go on another talk show or ever chart again, I would be content with her just creating and sharing her music for many more years to come. (Wednesday 27 August 2014; 5:55)

None of this should be a suprise (46,421) by Marissa from USA Since I can already see that this board is going to go on an anti-Nick rampage for however long, I just have to say this. I love Mariah but I'm not going to act like she was hit blindsided by all of Nick's antics over the years. She knew exactly who she married. We all could have told Mariah that some childish antics would be pulled from the very beginning, let's just keep it real. There's a difference between marrying someone with a youthful spirit and someone childish and Nick was childish from the start, it's just that the haze of the honeymoon phase keeps you from fully seeing your partner's issues. Although most of Nick's comments have been annoying, did you really expect him to transform into this worldly master of tact just because he married Mariah? Whether the stuff he's done is crass or not, he's being himself, thus I'm no longer angered by the stuff he says. I'm not saying I condone it, I'm just saying that's he's not doing anything out of character, so I don't have time to get up in arms about it. As long as he isn't doing anything mean spirited, I'm keeping it moving. (Wednesday 27 August 2014; 5:55)

Kyle / Reswirl (46,420) by enwar00 from usa Kyle I honestly hope you're right and that there's more to come from MIAMTEC. I've been thinking about that recently as well, since the songs have come to life for me the past week. I don't think there's anything wrong with making the most of it. I'm sure a lot of us want to see more commercial success for Mariah and it's fun when she's everywhere. With that said, I'm in love with this album and don't consider it a disaster just because of its sales. (Wednesday 27 August 2014; 5:49)

Silence is class (46,419) by jaker20 from US I'm surprised some of you consider MC's silence to be a problem. Who cares what people say? There's news every day and not all of them is true, and its constantly changing. She's this and that today, and then tomorrow, it's another. No one cares except tabloid consumers who take everything as factual. No one. MC's silence shows that her concern is not to be holy in the public eye, but her kids. One day, these kids will know their father was badmouthing their mom, and his father wrote a book about it to cash in. Like father, like son, both losers. This is almost unforgivable. No one wants their mother to be humiliated, no one, and especially not in public. Even if their mother isn't perfect. The situation is completely different from Motolla. She's got kids now to protect. (Wednesday 27 August 2014; 5:03)

If it's over (46,418) by IheartMC from USA Hey fellows lambs, I am one of the biggest Mariah followers and devoted fans and been feeling very Mariah nostalgic lately and If It's Over comes to mind in recent times. Any other fans fans going through the same thing? This song is often overlooked and it is in one word brilliant. Vocally and lyrically this is Mariah at her best churning it out. Anyone else feeling the same way about this song or any others? You know our girl has so many gems. (Wednesday 27 August 2014; 5:00)

A "refresher course" on Mariah Carey (46,417) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Great article. As much as I love a lot of newer, current artists and appreciate their considerable talent, I'd have to agree that nothing will ever compare to the battle of the 90s divas. Back then, they fought it out with sheer talent and artisty. With artists nowadays, talent almost comes second because the music biz has rather become more of a cutthroat battle of marketing and promotional strategies, employing just about every kind of gimmick possible to command the public's attention. So yeah, the competition definitely was tougher back then, as you can't fake talent. The Philippines is a nation that loves karaoke and amateur singing contests that's why I think young people these days still somehow know who Mariah is. (I mean, seriously, no competition or karaoke night will be complete without a rendition of a Mariah ballad - most likely Hero, Through The Rain, Can't Take That Away, Without You). The only problem is that, like the rest of the world, most teens and twenty-somethings here are also swayed by who's young and what's trendy. Mariah's neither, and for me that's great, but I can only speak for myself. (Wednesday 27 August 2014; 3:46)

Matt Lauer interview (46,416) by Manny from U.S. When I watch the Matt Lauer interview one of Mariah's last responses stood out in my head. Matt asked where she was at emotionally. Her response was: "I've always been a pretty vulnerable person but I've built up. I've learned how to built up a wall. So when I have to I can put up that wall and leave it there and walk in the other direction. And that's what I have to do sometimes with people in my life when they just don't get it." I thought it was about the IDJ record executives and how they didn't support her (promotion). I thought there might be a chance it was about Nick. With everything that is happening it seems it was only about Nick. I also noticed she looked sad in the interview (the look in her eyes) even though she was making jokes. (Wednesday 27 August 2014; 3:26)

My perfect concert list (46,415) by Tarraga from New York City 1. Triumphant (Vintage Remix) 2. I Still Believe (Pure imagination) 3. My All/Stay Awhile 4. Dedicated 5. If We 6. Always Be My Baby (Remix) 7. Emotions 8. Bliss 9. Vanishing 10. Help Me Make It 11. To Be Around You 12. Fantasy 13. So Blessed 14. You Don't Know What To Do 15. Make It Look Good 16. Loverboy 17. I'll Be There 18. Hero 19. Make It Happen 20. Thirsty 21. Cry 22. Vision of Love 23. The Wind 24. TAOLG I would love the entire concert to be just with a jazz or chamber orchestra and, of course, a grand piano. We can all dream right? Lol. (Wednesday 27 August 2014; 3:25)

Divorce (46,414) by Jimbo from UK It was clear to me that they were heading for divorce after seeing the Matt Lauer interview. She was so sombre and her answers were quite revealing, despite never directly admitting anything. The body language in the "home video" also further evidenced Mariah and Nick's frostiness. Not once did she embrace him, or even acknowledge him. Some of you dismissed my interpretation, but I think most would agree now that it's pretty obvious. I also think her troubled home life helps explain her, quite frankly, bizarre behaviour over the last few months. Endless gowns, erratic, rambling speech, substance abuse (?). She must have been going through hell. It was also obvious, at least to me, that many of the ballads on her last album were about Nick. Particularly Cry, Faded and One More Try. It's sad when any couple break up, especially when children are involved. To those who berated her for not focusing on her career as a way of distracting herself from her personal life, I suggest you gain some empathy. Everyone deals with crisis in different ways, we all have our own coping mechanisms. It's arrogant to think your method is the correct one. I hope that this negativity will at least inspire creativity. Butterfly, her greatest work, was born out of personal tragedy. And whilst Butterfly embraces rebirth, it ends on a deeply cautious note about freedom's limitations (Outside). Heartbreak can lead to reflection. My thoughts and prayers are with the family. (Wednesday 27 August 2014; 1:41)

James Cannon (46,413) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Three things: 1) He has no business meddling in whatever marital problems his son is having, unless it directly concerns him. If this was a way for him to weigh in on the situation while hoping to draw the public's attention to his book, then that's just sad. But it would be in everyone's best interests for him not to comment. 2) I won't say anything on his statement on Mariah "lying all the time" and Nick not, since I don't know what their everyday life is like let alone what their conversations sound like. But talking about someone else's sex life on social media then immediately deleting it is just low. But what's even lower? Mocking someone because of her weight. Like really? Really now? That's downright childish. Especially if that someone happens to be one of the bestselling artists of all time who singlehandedly pulled his son out of relative anonymity by marrying him. And Mimi still looks great whatever weight she is. So congrats, Mr. Cannon, you've not just presented yourself as an immature old man, you've also made your son look like the world's shallowest jerk. Double whammy. 3) He's Roc and Roe's grandpa. Does he really want a stupid, cowardly act like this to be the reason they'd possibly resent him later in their lives? It's bad enough that MC and NC they're probably getting a divorce. He shoudn't make it uglier by putting this on top of that. This is a good example of the fact that age doesn't equate maturity. I now see where Nick got his tactlessness. (Wednesday 27 August 2014; 1:09)

Watch out, Nick continued (46,412) by LC from USA I agree. Nick should really watch out. He knows Mariah better than anybody, and from what we know about her, she knows how to get back at someone. There have been rumors that Nick has been badmouthing Mariah through his family members because of the gag order, and if he is, he better get ready. Mariah has all the resources at her disposal to destroy his image and career. Honestly, she could just stage one interview with Barbara Walters or Oprah, and Nick would be done. Not to mention how she could trash him with music. Obsessed, Side Effects, Clown, and Thirsty will seem like light work compared to what else she could say. And did anyone see how ruthless the lambs were to his father on Facebook? He had to take back everything he may or may not have said about M. I know Mariah will take the classy way, as she always does, but that doesn't mean it won't be effective. Her shade is iconic and she'll shade Nick to the ground. (Wednesday 27 August 2014; 1:02)

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