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Sequencing (45,512)
by Dove from USA
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The sequencing does tell a story. But if it's from where MOIA left off, then it means these love songs are all about Nick. Like they're going back and forth in their relationship, then she gives him One Last Try to love her, and then puts it in God's hands. Thanks for the MV compliment. Ever since I was little I would make up videos for her songs. It helps me connect to the songs more. Orkum, I could've sworn I read "she should apologize", my mistake. 
(Wednesday 23 July 2014; 1:13)
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Insecurities (45,511)
by RockyRoc from England
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I can and will never ever judge Mariah as a person, because no matter how disloyal some of her fans become she has always been loyal to her true fans, despite what the media has portrayed her to be and the "diva act" she plays, the real Mariah is within the music. It's what we hear in her music that is more tangible than what we see in the media. I always think about what could be happening behind the scenes and even if we all go through hardship, hers happens to be magnified since she is more exposed.
(Wednesday 23 July 2014; 0:16)
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Thank you Xavier Peoples (45,510)
by Manny from U.S.
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Thank you for posting that. I am tired of certain "fans" whining. "I miss the old Mariah, waaah." Wake up. This year is 2014, Mariah is 44 years old. It's not 1995 or whatever year you want her to sing/act/sell like. You can't make her change because she is a different person than when she was in get 20's etc. It's like some people want her to go get married to Tommy Mottola again so she can be the old Mariah. Right now she is the "Old Mariah" because she is older. We all change. If you don't like what she is all about then move on. Some people are always waiting for her to post something to criticize her. I don't to hear someone say I can't expect these fans to change because you are expecting Mariah to change also.
(Wednesday 23 July 2014; 0:01)
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Shelly (45,509)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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She did mention something along those lines. Also she keeps saying she sequenced the album to tell a story, she emphasized in the sequencing a lot. And she said that this album represents her journey of the past 4 years. I don't remember exact quotes at the moment but I am sure she did say these. I agree with your theory that it may be about her feeling scared of being hurt in love again. She may be feeling insecure now about nick and all. The miscarriage idea, is not something I think she touched on in this album. She has not one but two great kids whereas she probably thought she never would be able to have kids anymore. So I think that the miscarriage is way in her past now. By the way I forgot to mention this earlier but your idea of the Thirsty video was brilliant. I remember reading it and while I was mid way I was like I don't think Mariah would ever do it (like showing she is at home while nick is partying it up) for self image issues. But when I go to the twist at the end that they will be laughing about it and it was all a joke, I was like wow that's brilliant. I love it when Mariah is easy going and doesn't mind being funny in videos like obsessed and TMB and even SIO.
(Tuesday 22 July 2014; 23:57)
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Orkun (45,508)
by Abraham from USA
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I skipped your message, and was surprised at your post. But what surprised me even more was the people who gave you a thumbs up. How dare you criticize Mariah's song writing skills? And to say the album isn't good, lol. It's one of her best. What do you want her from her? I'm sure if you were a music artist in your 40's, you'd go down hill too. I'll tell you that I wasn't happy with "MOAIA". But I am with "MIAMTEC". You listen to both albums and you'll hear a big difference. But I must say that you also made me laugh. "Overly produced vocals"? Mariah can overly produce as many vocals as she wants. Stop analyzing and criticizing every damn thing about the album. You're so ungrateful.
(Tuesday 22 July 2014; 23:53)
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Shelly (45,507)
by Orkun from The Netherlands
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What apology? How do you get that conclusion? Owning up means to take responsibility. Read between the lines. There aren't many.
(Tuesday 22 July 2014; 23:47)
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My thoughts (45,506)
by Abraham from USA
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I can't believe that someone believes that "Glitter" is more of a smash than "MIAMTEC", lol. I mean I know we are all entitled to our opinions. But come on, "MIAMTEC" is great. I haven't enjoyed an album from Mariah since "TEOM". And even on that album I skip some songs. But on this new album, I only skip one. I think the reason I love and appreciate this one more, is because of the ballads Mariah recorded. "Cry", "Camouflage" and "The art of letting go". All three in my opinion are beautiful songs. This is what I like from her. She did her best to give us classic Mariah. I hope her next album is just as good. One other thing. People on how they miss "the old Mariah". What you see is what you get. You either take and except her how she is, or don't. We should just be grateful that she is alive, healthy and still has the passion for music.
(Tuesday 22 July 2014; 23:12)
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Orkun (45,505)
by Dove from USA
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Mariah is an artist and not everyone is going to appreciate her art, single selections, music choices, outfit choices, etc. But she is being true to herself and maybe to her, taking those chances is worth more than commercial success. Especially because she's already had it. The singles she choose may have been the way she wanted to present herself to the world at that moment. Honestly, I don't think it matters that much, what matters most is marketing. The best example I can think of is Britney Spears, she is awkward and can't sing. Her songs are horrible but still managed to be hits. Even I'll listen to them now, just for the nostalgia. I don't apologize to anyone for my mistakes unless my mistakes hurt someone. I don't expect her to apologize for being her. A lot of us don't care if she can't hit the notes live, we just want to see her. If we want perfect notes we'll just listen to the albums on repeat.
(Tuesday 22 July 2014; 23:10)
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Orkun (45,504)
by Dove from USA
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What mistakes are you saying she should apologize for? And also, who is she supposed to be apologizing to?
(Tuesday 22 July 2014; 22:53)
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One More Try (45,503)
by Dove from USA
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I read an interview with Walter Afanasieff where he talked about they were writing the Music Box album. He said she was really inspired by George Michael's Faith album and one song in particular, which may have been this song. The heartbeat makes me think of when you're in your bathtub and can hear your own heartbeat, it gives me the feeling of being alone and vulnerable. "Hold you, touch you, think that you're mine" makes me think she's afraid of letting herself fall in love because she was burned before. But then the next song is hopeful. Did she really say these were sequenced to show where she's at since last time we heard her?
(Tuesday 22 July 2014; 22:50)
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Leave Mariah alone (45,502)
by Xavier Peoples from United States
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It's very annoying coming on here everyday and seeing all the so called "fans" talking crap about Mariah all the time. No one is forcing you to listen to her. If you don't like the direction that she is going in, then there are plenty other artist for you to listen to. I think the reason why so many of you are always complaining about Mariah is because you know there isn't another singer out who even comes close. It's not like you can stop being a fan of Mariah and start listening to Ariana Grande or something. I don't know who you guys are comparing Mariah to. She is still the best in the business. With the exception of Beyonce, I don't know what other female singer that you could even compare her to. She is still the best. No one comes close. I think a lot of you are being too critical. Mariah isn't perfect. Everyone makes mistakes and all artists have highs and lows in their careers. I just wish people would stop being so critical and just be grateful that she is still releasing music.
(Tuesday 22 July 2014; 22:15)
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Missing the old Mariah (45,500)
by Jewel from USA
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So I just read Mariah's message about MariahCarey.com having a new design and a new voice message on her website. "[...] some [...] contests for the [...]. You know Me. I Am Mariah... The elusive chanteuse [...]." Who is this person? What is with the constant high school slang? I have to remind myself that this is a 44 year old woman talking. Sadly I never thought I'd ever say this but I seriously miss the classy, non-photoshopped, English speaking, gospel inspired singing, commercially viable Tommy Mottolla version of Mariah Carey.
(Tuesday 22 July 2014; 20:59)
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Personal sum up (45,499)
by Orkun from The Netherlands
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She needs to own up to her many many mistakes. She never does. So this attitude is taken over by many fans too, not all. The singles that Mariah wanted to be released in the past didn't do well. Her songwriting skills have been going down big time. The album is just not good. The vocals are so overproduced that it sounds robotic. The lip syncing. Why did she never say that she does sing live? Because she knows she isn't. Sure, it's safer to sing in the studio and it's hard to hit some notes live. But come on, it's not only 1-2 notes she misses. She misses like a full octave at least. Even like ten notes. That doesn't add up. I'm excluding her head voice. She needs to be real again. Someone who playbacks is all about image, divaisms, Photoshop and auto tune, can not be down to earth as that person claims to be. This is my truth on the whole topic. Her personal life is hers. I'm talking music. Peace.
(Tuesday 22 July 2014; 19:59)
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One More Try (45,497)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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I just want to start off by saying that I really found the theory of it being about her pregnancy quite amazing. I would never have landed on that. So whoever thought of it, really good point. However I personally don't think it's about the miscarriage. 1) She said this album is a journey since she last left (that will be Memoirs). Her miscarriage was in 2008. 2) Mariah has given special mention to songs like Cry, Thirsty and all but never really talked abt OMT. If it was about the baby she would have atleast said the song is close my heart or something. 3) The lyrics can't be taken literally, it's not written by her so maybe there actually is no hidden meaning, she's just doing her version of it. 4) She had a miscarriage but after that had two beautiful babies, now I may be wrong here but I think two beautiful healthy children is like to have helped her get over her previous tragedy (like I said, I may be wrong). So these are just my two cents. Also Money may be about Nick but it's not in a negative way because she sings "They don't mean a thing because I come home to you at the end of the day." So it's a happy song, talking about how she doesn't need money because she comes home to her lover or maybe dembabies. So yes it's not negative. Also if it was something as sensitive as her miscarriage, I think Mariah would have penned her own song, instead of using another singer's song for it.
(Tuesday 22 July 2014; 19:35)
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Beginning of hopefully something wonderful (45,496)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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Yesterday, Mariah informed all her followers on FB about her revamped website. Okay. But it's what she said next that's definitely intriguing. If this only marks the beginning, then, especially with the rumors about new songs circulating, I'm really excited for what she has up her sleeve. A re-release? A whole new album? Who knows? I'm just really glad Mariah seems to be back on track and moving on from what I feel is the actual lowest point of her career so far. Glitter (the soundtrack) is a smash compared to MIAMTEC or even MOAIA for that matter, and at least back then she had the public's sympathy. Now it's safe to say only her fans can tolerate her. Honestly, other than great music and a moderate hit, the only good that can come from this extended nightmare of an era is if she learns from her mistakes, and that should she manage to pull off another comeback, this will make the success even sweeter. Now more than ever, it's do or die for her, particularly if she still intends to use her 18 #1s to promote herself, then it's high time to add more to that. (Especially since Rihanna's just 6 phoned-in features away from catching up, which is very likely as she's almost 2 decades younger. Although if the time comes that she does beat The Beatles, that record would probably already have lost its significance.) So go Mariah. Nothing should be half-assed from now on. You can prove 'em all wrong once again. Win back all your old fans and make new ones as well. We're all rooting for you.
(Tuesday 22 July 2014; 17:14)
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Radio and women over 40 (45,495)
by THE TRUTH from USA
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"Truth" be told, if she disappears for awhile, throws out the trash she's surrounded by, releases a stone cold smash (not off this album), is supported by a team of powerhouse movers and shakers ie Jimmy Iovine, Benny Medina, etc and follows direction, she'll have more #1s if not. Well I don't know about you, but I gave up sugar drinks when I began around the same time I started dating.
(Tuesday 22 July 2014; 15:58)
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Radio and women over 40 (45,494)
by Lamb_O_Chop from Australia
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Yes, Mariah was an exception with #Beautiful, but I didn't mean Mariah wasn't the exception, I mean it's an exception for them to get a song on the radio. We can't ignore the fact that it's more of an up hill battle for women in Mariah's age bracket. Mariah, Madonna, and Cher's new music is not being played on the radio at the levels that a new Beyonce, Rihanna, or Katy Perry song is played. We might as we "tell the truth about the matter".
(Tuesday 22 July 2014; 15:12)
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Migrate (45,493)
by THE TRUTH from USA
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I just reread your post and realized that we might actually know each other. Very funny really. Yes, control issues have resulted in chronic disappointments for MCs fans. I agree that she should have stayed with Handprint.
(Tuesday 22 July 2014; 12:18)
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Billy from England / Triumphant (45,492)
by Martyn from England, UK
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I have never understood the hatred for Triumphant. It's in my top 10 of all time. So empowering, and an incredible chorus.
(Tuesday 22 July 2014; 10:37)
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Migrate (45,491)
by THE TRUTH from USA
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Truth be told, without Tommy she never would have had the massive support from Sony or any other major. Although WB was courting her simultaneously it was not at that level, Tommy championed her obsessively almost to the point of losing his job. Record companies were not investing in artist development on that level back then. She was a remarkable emerging talent back then but labels were very conservative and radio had to be aggressively primed for her. Yes Benny was a powerhouse, as was Sandy Galen but none of these super managers lasted for very long and with good reason. You have to be manageable or a have a genius marketing mind like Madonna. Mariah doesn't want leaders around her, she wants sycophants, hence; JD, and Nick. Not to be rude but if Butterfly drinks are an indication of what's in store, I'd say sending flowers or balloons to Benny Medina might be a great move on her part.
(Tuesday 22 July 2014; 9:46)
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One More Try (45,490)
by Darryle from USA
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I believe it's about the miscarriage. I have a few reasons for that. One being the heartbeat. I believe that could be the heartbeat of her child. Two are the lines: "I'm looking out for angels", "Just trying to find some peace." I think these lines mean that Mariah's looking to heaven or God trying to find if her child has become an angel and she's trying to come to peace with that. Also the line: "I don't want to learn to hold you touch you think that you're mine." This line would mean get attached and love it because that would bring more pain knowing that she would only lose it. Three being all the goodbyes she adds in the song would be her parting ways. Last is her voice. I think Mariah chose to sing in such a high voice on this song is because she's trying to replicate or imitate a child like voice because the songs about a miscarriage.
(Tuesday 22 July 2014; 7:59)
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Celebrities praise Mariah Carey: part 4 (45,489)
by Dove from USA
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I found this fanmade video on YouTube. Even though I know Mariah is one of the best selling artists of all time, sometimes I forget and I feel like I'm the only one, so when I hear other people are just as in love with her it makes me really happy. I especially related to the Mary J Blige part at about 7:13. When I was little Mariah gave me hope when it felt like I had nothing to live for too and I also felt like she was an angel. I want for her to keep burning her light and not fade away. I hope they do have a 25 anniversary concert to honor her next year featuring celebrities who love her as much as we do.
(Tuesday 22 July 2014; 6:35)
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Lee / relevancy (45,487)
by Edward from USA
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Lee, I never stated that Madonna was relevant. One thing she has done better than most though is keeping her old fan base coming to her concerts. Madonna, Michael, Mariah, Whitney, and Celine have all won their place in music history. Out of all the remaining acts Mariah is definitely the most relevant. She's only 44, I think she still has another great and successful album under her weave. She just needs a great manager, publicist, label, and great music. Every time those four factors have come into place, she's had great success. But she's been more successful when she has listened and allowed to be guided by those who know the business. Tommy made her keep "Hero" and suggested she should record a Christmas album ("Merry Christmas"). The man may have been wicked, but he had an eye for talent and great music.
(Tuesday 22 July 2014; 5:55)
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E=MC2 is a great album (45,486)
by jaker20 from US
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But the promo is terrible, and it's partly due to the timing of the album with her marriage to Nick. As soon as Bye Bye dropped, her career also went bye bye. I'm not blaming Nick for her failed career since. I'm just stating facts.
(Tuesday 22 July 2014; 3:43)
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Edward, Truth (45,485)
by Lee from USA
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If Madonna was so relevant, then why hasn't she had a #1 hit on the Hot 100 since the late 1990s but had the number 1 grossing tour of 2012? It surely isn't the music that drawing her fans in. I thank the heavens that Mimi don't need to resort to that nonsense to make her legacy. But I agree with you that Mimi needs some new people around her to help preserve it.
(Tuesday 22 July 2014; 0:53)
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