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Katy Perry (45,151) by Martyn from England, UK I very much doubt this story is true, but even if it is, I'm not particularly bothered. If somebody who could actually sing (or had an ounce of personality) mocked Mariah it may concern me, but I have more talent in my big toe, and therefore Katy's opinion on anything is automatically void. I spent an evening with her a few years ago, and she was one of the dullest people I have ever come across. (Saturday 28 June 2014; 22:47)

Cry (45,150) by migrate2008 from Oh, my love Imprudently I left every cell in me So naked, somewhere at the core of you Bless our soul Can someone please explain these lyrics to me? (Saturday 28 June 2014; 21:55)

Elena (45,149) by Lee from USA I don't know if this article is true. I mean, why is only one website reporting this and no other website is talking about this video. If it is true, then it is pointless to bash Mariah after five years of following her game plan somewhat poorly. If not, the article is not good enough to wrap fish in. (Saturday 28 June 2014; 21:48)

UK fan meetup (45,147) by Martyn from England, UK Whatever happened to this? I was really up for this and then it seemed to fizzle out. Can somebody that isn't as lazy as me organise this, and then I'll attend? (Saturday 28 June 2014; 20:15)

Katy Perry (45,146) by Elena from The Netherlands If that story is true, MC might take revenge and mock Katy Perry in her Meteorite video with a 15 minutes of fame theme. (Saturday 28 June 2014; 19:40)

RibbonB / TR / theories (45,144) by Elena from The Netherlands I did mean the past few years as in 3 or 4 years because I was pointing out that since the last album she settled down and put her past behind (the past before 2009). I am not assuming anything, it's just a theory because although she doesn't open up about who or what she's singing about, I'm still wondering where her inspiration comes from. I think she wasn't that in love with Luis, she actually said later that she found it irritating that he actually made a competition in how many fans reckognized him first over MC and how she didn't want to do that. I don't think MC doesn't write everything from her own experiences, for example Betcha Gon' Know is really an attempt to make an R Kelly-esque R&B song because she loves his style. I think some songs are definitely inspired by Nick but not like the whole lyrics being about something that really happened between them. Since she sequenced her MIAMTEC tracks as a story, she went from Beautiful to Thirsty; I can't help but thinking this track is about Nick. If really so than she's really throwing the shade at him. Maybe she was mad at him one day and went for it. Then she talks about loving this "playa" that she can't resist in MILG. (Nick used to be one before they got married.) Meteorite could be inspired by her AI journey. I used to think TAOLG was about Tommy bacause of his book, but with the "delete Mimi" line it could be about letting go of the label and their demands to repeat the success formula of that album, what she probably feels is been there done that and move on to a new style which she succesfully did so with MIAMTEC. (Saturday 28 June 2014; 19:31)

Vocal arrangements (45,143) by S from To this_is_qhm, I read your recent post and just want to say I've noticed and love that detail too that you mentioned; the layering of hooks that Mariah does in Heartbreaker etc. Her ability to create things like that as well as her background vocals is something I really admire. I also love the vocal arrangement in the song God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen from her first Christmas album, the fact that it's completely acapella and her voice only with multiple layers, singing and harmonizing, makes it even more impressive. Mariah must have a really good musical ear and be able to hear things others wouldn't notice because there's no other way to explain how she comes up with these brilliant ideas. (Saturday 28 June 2014; 16:44)

Last Chance and Head Over Heels (45,142) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Any hardcore fan would know that these were two songs Mariah gave to Allure, the girl group under her own (first) label back in the 90s. Head Over Heels served as the moderately successful lead single and featured Mimi herself on background vocals. Sonically, it's the lovechild of the Fantasy remix and Honey. The entire song structure screams hip-hop Mariah. I love how she layered 2 separate hooks into one chorus (if someone knows the exact musical term for it, please enlighten me, thanks), which she's done several times particularly on the post-chorus of Fantasy, the pre-chorus of Loverboy, and even 3 in the final chorus of Heartbreaker and again, Fantasy. I think it would've been a great addition to Butterfly, as I've always wished that masterpiece had more mid/up-tempo cuts. Last Chance, on the other hand, (if I'm not mistaken) is an outtake from the Music Box era. It's a straightforward pop-R&B song that follows the template of her earlier balladry. It does get saccharine at times, mostly because of the production, but it still gets me gooey inside. It surprisingly gets considerable airplay here in the Philippines especially late-night radio shows and in fact has inspired a few cover versions from local artists here as well. This could've fit well in Music Box or Daydream, as I've always felt those albums were a bit too short and sweet. Does anyone else wish that Mariah kept these songs too? (Saturday 28 June 2014; 14:30)

You know what? (45,141) by Raphael from Brazil All I want is that Mariah drops some singles and let this album go. Make another to release next year (not a Christmas album oh no). Lets face it MIAMTEC took years to be released and now it's a flop. I dont care if it flopped but it's all a mess since 2012. (Saturday 28 June 2014; 13:00)

Alexys (45,140) by JJ from Good Times from USA Thanks, I was able to find a cool lamb at Walgreen today (Hallmark lovey lamb) and it's perfect. How can I post pictures on here so I can share? (Saturday 28 June 2014; 7:35)

Heavenly G#7 (45,139) by Alex from England I don't know if you guys have already heard or discussed it but there's a "hidden" G#7 in Heavenly in unison with a G#6. I always thought that whistle had a different texture until I happened on this video that explains it. Piece of advice: listen with headphones but don't wear them if that makes any sense and the note will be heard easily. We all know her voice has suffered in the last decade and a half and it's almost time we laid that conversation to rest as all has been said and done (except that we don't know the exact reasons and can only guess) BUT I just thought I'd take a minute to express my intact admiration and amazement at the prowess her voice is still capable of. Seriously, a G#7. (Saturday 28 June 2014; 5:05)

Me I am Mariah (45,138) by B from USA First I'd like to say I think Mariah should have titled the album Me I am Mariah. The Elusive Chantuese part of the title while as clever as it may sound is off putting. Reffering to herself is fine but she might as well have titled it The Elusive Diva. She's hardly elusive. She's everywhere. Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. I think this is one of her best albums. She proofed she's still got it twenty-four years later. She's the premiere female vocalist of our time. Treasure her talent as not only a singer but songwriter and producer. Stucking your teeth don't mess with my mood. (Saturday 28 June 2014; 4:38)

Thirsty meaning/theory (45,137) by TS from United States I'm new and thought I'd chime into some of the theories of the songs on her new album. Whenever I listen to Thirsty, I never think it's actually about another person. I've always thought its been about Mariah herself. She's changed her name (well, nicknames) from Mariah to Mimi to now an elusive chanteuse. Now that she's growing older, she gets more and more "thirsty" for relevance in the public by constantly posting family (and random in general) pics and tweets. The entire premise of it I thought was how its her inner struggle of fighting against the other persona's she's made, seeing as how in The Art Of Letting Go she says "go to Mimi on your contacts and press delete..." Idk though that's just me. (Saturday 28 June 2014; 3:34)

Random observations (45,135) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines 1) Cry. and Camouflage are great, but are practically interchangeable on first listen. 2) Thirsty is in need of more signature Mariah moments. For some reason, the smooth harmonies and the wail seconds before the end just don't seem enough. 3) Despite great vocals during the climaxes, it's songs like YM(E) and Supernatural that weigh down the album lyrically. I'd count #Beautiful in there as well if it weren't saved by the throwback production. 4) Meteorite may sound "cheap" to some, but compared to the electronic mess on the radio today, it's gold. There's something aptly "celestial" and dreamy about the production that distracts from the fact that it's actually a sad commentary on the harsh reality of stardom. 5) M ($*/. . . ) is catchy, but gets a bit too repetitive as it plays. Love the insistent horn blares, though. 6) Correct me if I'm wrong: Mimi has only had 3 tracks (that aren't remixes) on the standard editions of all her albums that exceed 6 minutes: TBO (Butterfly), LNADJSML (Glitter), and OMT (MIAMTEC). All of which happen to be covers of 80s songs. Interesting. Trivia alert. Haha. Not surprising, though, as Mariah is very much an 80s baby, even more so musically. 7) IAW fits more with the album's overall sound so I can live with that, but I would rather have the "remix" of Ribbon replace BGK just because it's the only MOAIA rehash that employed the most changes (which is still not saying much). 8) TAOLG should've made the final tracklist. Most critics agree as well. Plus, moving on has never been so verbose and multisyllabic. 9) Love that JD has grown as a producer and at least varied his execution of the annoyingly relentless signature clapping beat that plagued a lot of his work especially during the 00s (E=MC2, Janet's 20 Y.O., and TEOM, though his input in the latter was inspired). I mean Pharrell did somehow outgrow the thumping sonics of his Neptunes days, and I'm glad JD was able to catch up, especially since it seems he'll be Mariah's go-to producer for a long time. 10) This is the first album that Mariah sounds like a veteran artist looking back at what made her what she is today with wisdom and candor. (P.S. Thanks a lot webmaster for always allowing my messages to be posted, no matter how tedious they always are. Obviously I'm not exactly laconic. More power.) (Saturday 28 June 2014; 2:48)

Probably the realest interview she's ever done (45,134) by Marissa from USA Just sitting here getting my life to this video. Why was Mariah even associating with someone as messy as Wendy? Child lol. (Saturday 28 June 2014; 1:54)

The past few years? (45,133) by RibbonB from USA It would seem that the past few years would be the past three or four, that's what few means. LolThe whole CD could be about the ups and downs of her present relationship. It's rather absurd to assume otherwise, IMO. She had definitely said that the world gets the best of Nick, which ties in very well to Faded. But I'm glad if she is giving him one more try. anyway, I bought and love the CD, I wish more of her fans had actually purchased it. (Saturday 28 June 2014; 1:29)

Cry-ing for Derek (Elena) (45,132) by TR from USA Wow, thanks for pointing that out because I was trying to tie that song to Luis. I guess it really doesn't matter, but it's definitely cool to be able to assign certain lyrics to a certain person. Gives us a better glimpse of who she is emotionally, even though she says she tries to be vague lyrically so anyone can put themselves in the song. That's fine. But I really appreciate it when I can experience her personal journey and get her emotions and perspective on a relationship (Side Effects, Sunflowers, Through The Rain). Btw, I really do wonder how Nick feels about her making these emotions public. I mean we all know she's not talking about him on the long-lost love songs on MIAM. I don't know how I'd feel if my girl were singing about how much she misses a former flame and we've got two babies, eighty dogs, and a house is not a home. Anyway, I'd be interested in your theories about who some of the other songs on MIAM are about. Particularly Make It Look Good, Thirsty (if it's not Damizza), You're Mine, and YDKWTD. (Friday 27 June 2014; 18:14)

Updates, appearances, or anything (45,131) by Leito from USA I visit this site (and others) daily for any type of update, or scheduled appearances to promote the new album. WTF, my patience is wearing thin. I've done my part promoting her new music at work, with friends, family and even on different social networks. I'm going to always keep supporting MC cbecause she's my #1 artist of all time. I just get frustrated when I know people (outside of us Lambs) are missing out on some great music. Until I mentioned it, lots of my friends/co-workers/family didn't even know she had an album out. I know others have already voiced there same frustration. I just wanted to throw mines in here too. Lol. Be bless my fellow Lambily. (Friday 27 June 2014; 17:25)

Billy from Greece (45,129) by T from USA That interviewer wasn't bad at all, considering Mariah and her team made her wait 12 hours for the interview. I would've been in a lot worse of a mood. (Friday 27 June 2014; 14:44)

Re: Jorge (45,128) by Alexys from USA Cute idea. Throw in a stuffed animal of a lamb for good measure. (Friday 27 June 2014; 12:37)

Check this out (45,127) by Billy from Greece I'm sorry about the language I may use, but everytime I come across this interview, I just wish I could punch that interviewer. I mean, supposedly Mariah is the diva, the difficult, snob, whatever celebrity bla bla bla. But check the attitude of the interviewer, especially her look. She oozes bitchiness and total contempt for Mariah. MC is so articulate and nice here. And what does that other bitch have to say? "Humility doesn't sit all that comfortably." Really? Some people. No wonder Mariah, or any celebrity, is fed up with interviewers and interviews of this kind and acts "weird" in future interviews. I mean, just look at that woman, her haughtiness. Who does she think she is? I swear, I don't know the lady, but she comes across as a vastly disagreeable person. (Friday 27 June 2014; 9:51)

Derek Jeter? (45,126) by Elena from The Netherlands I know we will never know the true story/inspiration about the songs on MIAMTEC but since MC has stated that some songs are very personal and put a lot of time sequencing them, I'm gonna have a go at it with some theories: Cry - She already said this song was very personal to her and this album should be heard as a body of work, her journey over the past few years. I can't help but thinking this is about Derek. She was so in love with him during the Butterfly era and she's gave some hints in her songs long after they broke up. Charmbracelet included SI and Lullaby, where she sings "how's your family please say hello from me". MC said that Dereks bi-racial family impressed her. They worked out when her family didn't and she felt their warmth and love as she would've loved to experience with her own family. TEOM had WBT and DFAU, the latter of which she made a video in a "sports theme" which links directly to Derek being a baseball player. Plus all the guys were bald-ish like Derek. She said For The Record was very autobiographic. With Camouflage the only thing she wants to know is if he still loves her. Cry and Faded close the book on Jeter. The few pics that are on the net from them being together clearly shows how in love she is and how she adores him. They broke up because he couldn't deal with the media attention on them, so I think he was the love of her life untill she settled with Nick, which basicly began so when they had their twins since the last album. (Friday 27 June 2014; 9:49)

Help with ideas for an MC inspired birthday basket (45,125) by JJ from Good Times from USA So I found another reason to buy the new album and drinks. My friend, who is a casual M fan and super fan when drunk, is having a birthday brunch this Saturday. I decided to make her a "goodies" basket filled with M products. I already have two butterfly drinks, the new cd, the M pink perfume, and a whole bunch of ring pop candies. Any other suggestions on what to stuff it with? I couldn't find the OPI nail polishes. My friends are all "normal", I'm the only crazy fan, but I think they will think it's a nice gift. I wish I could post a picture to show you all. (Friday 27 June 2014; 7:13)

Fairweather lambs (45,123) by Manny from U.S. Reading the messageboard for the past few days proves to me some lambs are just "fairweather" fans. I can't wait for a successful album when Mariah repeats the Emancipation era. The "lambs" that are writing her off and speaking so negatively about her, will eat their words. They will jump on the bandwagon and love her again, just because she is #1 on all the charts again. It seems some people dislike her when she's flopping and love her when she's on top of the world. (Friday 27 June 2014; 5:40)

Hoping Mariah is Ariana's TRL guest (45,122) by Nicole from US I don't know if anyone has posted about this yet but wouldn't it be great if Mariah uses the TRL comeback to turn things around? Here's hoping that she can come and be supportive to someone that she influenced by a great deal. Since Ariana's fans are in full force in buying stuff maybe this can be something that would work to MCs advantage and make people think she is really nice to other female singers especially to the one that has idolized her in current music. (Friday 27 June 2014; 3:29)

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