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The deluxe edition / Thirsty / mature (44,673) by Badr from USA Someone here mentioned that it was a bright move to cancel Angels Advocate. I couldn't agree more. The recycled "remixes", or should I say "leftovers", sound cheap. Mary J. Blige should do a real duet with Mariah. It's A Wrap is not bad but not good either. The lyrics R. Kelly incorporated make no sense. Again, I'm disappointed "The Art of Letting Go" is not on the standard version. On a different subject, I agree with that person who said releasing "Thirsty" as a single isn't a good idea. She would be competing with countless talentless acts. "YDKWTD" is much more elaborate and age appropriate. For those who say she should sound mature, I believe "TAOLG" was the right direction. Perhaps she could try reaching the same audience Alicia Keys and John Legend have. Is it me or this is the most complicated era she's ever had? Right along Glitter. (Thursday 12 June 2014; 2:35)

Stephen / Vegas residency show (44,672) by Manny from U.S. Ha ha ha. Your comment made me laugh. It was not only funny but weirdly, I've been craving liver with onions. Who knows why? I'm curious if anybody has fantasized about Mariah going a la Celine and having a residency show in Vegas? You guys think she could, few nights a week? Could her voice handle it? (Thursday 12 June 2014; 1:52)

Bonus tracks (44,671) by Skip from United States Quick thoughts on the bonus tracks on MIAM. I agree that the Angels Advocate leftovers are underwhelming. Particularly "Betcha Gon' Know". I was so hoping the demo that leaked ("I Checked") was going to be the true Part 2 to this song. But I am happy to have at least finally heard them. I'm more interested in her selection of "America the Beautiful". If she did choose to include this as the closing number as a callback to her debut performance of the song at the NBA finals, I can't helping thinking how incredible it would have been for her to include the original demo of "Vision of Love". She's mentioned in several interviews that she prefers the demo, feels it has more soul and is less produced. And that version would really be the true start to her career. Don't you all think that would've been a pretty cool bonus track? (Thursday 12 June 2014; 1:52)

Stephen / Sam Smith (44,670) by Edward from USA Stephen, your own liver? I just listened to Sam Smith's "Stay With Me" and I'm so happy good music is coming back. (Thursday 12 June 2014; 1:39)

The Butterfly water and the Unicorn too (44,669) by Edward from USA I just bought the Butterfly water, and when I removed the bottle cap, three butterflies came flying out of the bottle singing "I'm thirsty" in unison. At the store they told me that she's releasing the Unicorn and the Rainbow waters soon. I can't wait to see a Unicorn for the first time. Go buy multiple copies of the Butterfly water, it is to die for. I just hope she doesn't release the JD's water, because I would hit him in the head as soon as he comes out of the bottle with his annoying "Y'all know who this is". (Thursday 12 June 2014; 0:37)

Manny (44,668) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom I'd rather eat my own liver than buy something so ridiculous lol. (Thursday 12 June 2014; 0:29)

Confused (44,667) by Jewel from USA Big fan. Own every album. Love her music but I'm exasperated and utterly confused with Mariah at this point. Amazing talent who came from the real world (Long Island) and made it big. She represented the American dream. She was one of us. Today, I don't get her. For someone as self-consciously demure as Mariah, the lack of quality control is impressive. I don't understand a 43 year old trying to be "eternally 12". Wearing ball gowns on a subway or a playground. (Who does this?) The "diva" stuff has gone too far. The arrogant "dahlings" and bizarre behavior - ugh. Promoting an album by arriving over 4 hours late to the World Music Awards and screwing up the whole show? Making reporters wait for 8+ hours and having someone hold her drink up to her mouth so she can sip her diva drink from a straw? (We've all heard the stories.) The airbrushed album cover with the perfect body yet a very husky figure in real life? Claiming she's "insecure" yet constant display of fake cleavage [...]. How did such a beautiful and talented singer become so detached from reality. Someone really needs to seriously help her out with some image control. I used to want to be like her, loved driving around with my top down blasting her tunes. I love MIAM, some really great tracks on here. But I'm utterly baffled by her persona and just can't relate to her anymore. When her songs play now, I roll up the windows so that no one makes fun of me for being a "lamb". (Thursday 12 June 2014; 0:06)

Mariah's future albums (44,666) by PJW from The U.K. No matter what, Mariah will always release music. She's wealthy enough to do and is aware that record companies are quickly becoming a thing of the past. Around the CB era Prince really attempted to take her under his wing, probably after they'd (reportedly) recorded together for "Glitter". He had encouraged her to not sign a record deal. She spoke about it once on a talk show but basically dismissed his idea. Recently she's spoken twice on it, once saying that record companies are becoming obsolete and another time saying that Prince was "ahead of his time" for not having a record company. To go this route would provide Mariah the freedom she so obviously craves and we shouldn't rule it out at some point, perhaps sooner than we think. (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 23:52)

MC's social network (44,665) by G.G. from USA So Mariah's new "social network" that you can get from purchasing the butterfly drink contains the You're Mine video, and 4 pictures from the MIAM album? Really ? I can't. I just can't. (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 23:47)

Illuminati (44,664) by PJW from The U.K. In response to the comment laughing at concepts like the illuminati, the only ridiculous things about it is the name "illuminati" or that Jay Z and Beyoncé are its leaders. The rest of it is real. They are the Freemasons, wealthy individuals who run the governments from behind the scenes or have huge control through their wealth and the companies they own. Be in with them and you'll do well. Rebel and you won't. Mariah's career is a perfect demonstration of it. There's too much detail to list on here re the structure of organisations like the Freemasons, so I'll keep it to Mariah and suggest people take their time to read up on it and especially illuminati symbolism. Once familiar, you'll spot it easily. Mariah herself has referenced the Freemasons on numerous occasions and visibly portrayed their symbolism. The "It's like that" video was completley about the "illuminatii", from the chequered floor, to the masks, columns, rigid dancing, surveillance and theme of transformation and freedom. The performance of "When you believe" at the Oscars was another outright one, even down to numerical factors. She was famous for having one eye covered then broke it with "Rainbow", itself an allusion to light. She's spoken about the powers that be and dark secrets. She's still not over it. Michael Jackson spoke outright of the illuminati, how dark it was and how evil Sony was. It can seem far fetched but it's not at all. (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 23:46)

Butterfly sugar water (44,663) by CMC from NY,NY Yes I bought it yesterday, it's pure sugar water with no creative ingredients, with zero nutritional value and artificial red dye. If our girl Mimi's been chugging this stuff it's deff not gonna help her loose that extra weight. The scan on the bottle simply plays the You're Mine video, and 4 pictures that are all the album art for the album. Not that I was expecting anything special but the whole concept is ridiculous. Wow I can't believe I am talking about Mariah's artificial sugar water. WTF is going on? (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 23:33)

Has anyone bought Butterfly (Go N'syde) (44,662) by Manny from U.S. I haven't made it to Walgreens to buy the Butterfly drink. I am wondering if anyone has bought it and tried to "go inside" Mariah's world? (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 23:02)

Truth (44,661) by Me. I am Carly from USA Haha dude, I dunno, I am hoping that is the case. What do you think is really wrong? (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 21:46)

Re: Tony Dicarlo (44,660) by Billy from Greece You're saying that Mariah should work with "producers and writers and create an album with a Norah Jones sound. [....] Mariah needs to leave the hiphop for young artists and focus on a more mature, refined sound, like Norah Jones or Susan Boyle. [...] Songs like Thirsty are not what Mariah needs right now." Susan Boyle? Norah Jones? Again, Susan Boyle? Uhm. Do you have the slightest idea about who Mariah Carey is, personality-wise? I mean, the slightest? I get it with the wishful thinking, but keep it realistic people, on the basis of the artist you're talking about. Again, Susan Boyle? (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 21:39)

Me. I am confused and disappointed (44,659) by Tony Dicarlo from USA I already knew that this album was going to be a flop, so I'm not too surprised on that front. I mean so many delays and the changing of lead singles did this album in. The only shot it had was with #Beautiful, the album should had followed within a couple weeks. Missed opportunity there. Mariah herself is not really helping matters either. The public cannot connect with her like they used to and honestly she is over 40 and needs to act it. She needs to work with more established producers and writers and create an album with a Norah Jones sound. She is too immersed in all this hiphop music and it doesnt translate to the public. Mariah needs to leave the hiphop for young artists and focus on a more mature, refined sound, like Norah Jones or Susan Boyle, there is a huge market out there for quality music, look at Lionel Richie, every one of his concerts are sold out and his album was a hit. Songs like Thirsty are not what Mariah needs right now. That song belongs to an artist like Ariana Grande and others of her caliber, but not at Mariah's. Mariah needs direction and she is not getting it from the right people right now. She has too much control and that is never good for an artist who needs to remain relavent. It's all about the management team, so in closing, change the label, the management, and get rid of the hip hop factor. Mariah acts like she is in her early 20's and that simply doesnt connect well anymore, I mean look at the sales of this album, major fail. (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 20:21)

Carly (44,658) by THE TRUTH from USA Carly, that's sweet that you want to believe she is deliberately trashing her career and brand so that she can relaunch her career from scratch without the interference or oversight of record company moguls but let's be serious, nobody in their right mind deliberately ruins their brand so they can start over. You build your brand so that you can exploit it, marketing 101 and everybody knows it. Let's enjoy the music we have from her and be honest with ourselves; recognize that something has been terribly wrong since 2001 and it continues to get worse. (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 19:59)

Lol (44,657) by Jamie from UK Everyone and everything is getting blamed for this album flopping, even Nick Cannon and the illuminati. What's next, Nicki Minaj and Eminem have joined forces to sabotage her career with voodoo? (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 18:03)

Illuminati (44,656) by Gilbert from USA See, my past pos mentioned the "Illuminati" before. I believe this shit does exist and I hope that the webmaster doesn't bleep out that word because that is exactly what it is. It's scary to see but eyes have to be opened that this in fact exist. If you don't join you will not make it in that industry. This is why at this isn't a big issue for me that she isn't on top, I rather see her alive and well and able to make music for the fans than to see her coming out with her eye covered and sporting those symbols. Again it's just me and things I've observed. (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 17:49)

#18 in US (44,655) by David from Spain The new album is #18 in US. A big big big flop. This album is fantastic but it's died. (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 17:42)

Illuminati mess (44,654) by Anonymous from You want to know another reason why this has to be illuminati? How in the world is here sales so low? Why no single? What is JD's struggle with the music business? Why is she selling worse than an up and coming artist? That is part of the illuminati. I know I may sound crazy to you all but this is clearly the answer. Mariah may dress a little too less for you all but it has nothing to do with the album sales because the public love raunchy and nasty at its best. If you turn on the tv and watch all the best sellers like Milly Cirus and Rhianna and clown looking Lady Gaga. So until Mariah joins the circus act and sells her soul and stops putting Bible scriptures in her music we can forget about her selling anything. (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 17:19)

Reason for low advertising (44,653) by Anonymous from After reading what JD said you can tell it's that illuminati mess. No one knows this album is out. If I didn't come here and search for her I wouldn't know either. But see sorry people like Rhianna can dress in a sheer naked dress and be considered as normal while Mariah gets dissed for boobs. Guys it's the illuminati. These sales are unbelievable. This is her best album. Better than Beyonce's. Hopefully the beygency doesn't get me. (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 17:06)

Is it possible? (44,651) by Me. I am Carly from USA Is it possible that Mariah Carey has determined in meetings that she needs x amount of money to start her own label, and take absolute control and reign of her career i.e. literally be CEO of her own company, and this is why she needs money? I know, she has so much money but she must know that it is a gamble. What kind of revenue does it take to go completely solo successfully? I don't think she is focused on the album so much as building her own Oprah Esc empire. Again she hates record company malarkey and likes control and does most the work herself. I am not saying this is the best route but she is in her mid forties thinking long term. If that is the case I can see an argument of why not just promote the album and make tons of money, well maybe these days you don't make tons of money because you owe the record company and in addition people are not buying, look at how week the sales are for the new hot acts. I think all these false starts are highly related to the second Emancipation of Mimi and what if she is right, what if working for a bunch of old controlling guys is not the best thing for the future of music? Again trying to recreate the wheel might not be a great option for her right now, I would hope she could hold off a bit or be willing to focus on this album while accepting that she still has a company and public to serve. Time will tell. (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 16:10)

Jermaine Dupri (44,650) by THE TRUTH from USA Most everything that bares saying at this time has been said except of course where it regards JD. How incredibly embarrassing that this egomaniac would write that letter on twitter or wherever he posted it. What is he, a twelve year old? Bad enough that he has ridden the "Mariah Train" to the bank and produced a giant flop for her but to then go and have a tantrum online is just incredible. After having Super Managers the likes of Sandy Galen, Benny Medina, Irving Azoff, and yes... Tommy Mottola, hiring JD is well, what can I say other than, crazy. (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 15:46)

Album flop (44,649) by Andrew from UK I agree with the webmaster and several other comments on here. This album should have been ready and released at the same time as #Beautiful. The song was relatively popular, it even made Radio 1's play list here in the UK, which is unheard of for Mariah these days. The entire handling of this project has been a joke, and Mariah has been the punch line. The album needed a decent hit single with a strong video. Not the crap video we had to endure with YME. I think Mariah's rambling interviews and general odd behaviour is not helping the situation. As a long time lamb I'll always buy her music, I always have and always will. Fans are critical because they care, the media, on the other hand, do not. (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 15:09)

Me... I am John. A highly embarrassed Mariah fan (44,648) by John from USA Jaker20 and webmaster, I completely agree with both of you guys. I think that record sales with zero promotion can really show you where an artist stands. The first week the true fans come out, and the second week, the stability of the sales (or lack thereof) shows the general public's level of interest. That said, even with zero promo and no hit singles, these sales are catastrophic for an artist of Mariah's caliber. I don't care how long she's been in the game and the fact that sales for an artist decline past their prime. Barbra Streisand was long past her prime in 2009 when her album beat out Memoirs and debuted at number 1 with no singles or promo from her. That shows she has a solid fanbase and respect from the general public. Honestly, at this point, I would say Mariah should just let this record flop and go back to the drawing board. I don't see a single saving it, radio isn't going to play it because the album is too plagued with messiness. She needs to deal with whatever personal matters she has, get in better shape (since she always insists on dressing sexy), and have all her ducks in a row before dropping an album. She should know all of this by now, but clearly, she doesn't. It's sad, really. I'm truly embarrassed to be a fan right now. I am a true lamb and will always buy her music, but these sales are ruining her reputation and brand, and ending her career earlier than it had to. (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 14:39)

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