Messageboard

Re: Lambs are dumb (44,647) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands Maybe you didn't understand what other fans are trying to say (or maybe you're just dumb ). Most of us enjoy the music, but we're concerned that if the album flops, there will be no more albums from Mariah in the future. It has nothing to do with the quality of the music. Fans are giving their opinion why the album flopped (lack of promotion, general image of Mariah), but no one says the album flopped because of the music. Saying we should "just shut up and enjoy the music" is not helping Mariah at all. (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 12:16)

Lambs are dumb (44,646) by Joseph Pelle from san jose, california Lambs stfu and quit complaining that she's not promoting the album. She was on David Letterman to promote it, she was on the WMA to promote it, she blew up Times Square with her image on every screen. She threw a gala for the Fresh Air Fund, she had an NBC special and she opened the Today Show concert and each time she performed different songs so wtf are you all talking about that she isn't promoting the album? You're all just a bunch of delusional negative nancies. Just appreciate the album for what it is, who cares about sales? Enjoy the music and just let it be. Why every one have to be so superficial? If Mariah doesn't care why do you all care how she promotes it? Just shut up and enjoy the music. Keep calm and cary on. (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 11:21)

Flop album that has no single (44,645) by jaker20 from US I think at this point, we all know she's not that invested on this album, or her career for that matter. She's just giving throaways, some of which previous album rejects, and then not promote it. The promo is horrific, easily the worse in her entire career. The first week reflect fan sales, the second week reflect general public. The former shows many of her fans have abandoned her. The latter shows her image to the general public is in the gutter. So disappointing, but quite honestly, given her demeanor these past few years, not entire surprised. I feared this would be the case, but I didn't know reception would be this bad. (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 10:58)

I think Nick has a lot to do with all this (44,644) by jaker20 from US I'm pretty sure Nick is right there behind her saying "in the end, it doesn't matter, we have each other". Is it a coincidence that since Nick her career, image, work ethic, and body, has gone off the rails? I don't think so. The fact he can shoot many MC's music videos is testament to his enormous influence on her career and decisions. I still honestly believe Nick is jealous of her career and success, and is trying to tank her career. Well, I guess now he's succeeded. I got to step away for awhile it's just upsetting. The last 5 years has been a downer as an MC fan. (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 10:51)

MIAM versions (44,643) by Miguel from México I went on a road trip all the way from where I live to Tucson, AZ to support first week sales. Anyways, I bought a couple of copies at Target. I noticed when I played it in my car, the screen doesn't show the tracklist nor the cover. Since I only bought Target exclusive editions, I wonder if the same thing happens with the other editions of the cd. Loved it, by the way. I drove 7 hours and it was totally worth it. Too bad it didn't do well on the charts. My friend (not a Mariah lover nor hater) actually liked the album and even signs to a couple of songs. (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 9:13)

Mariah will leave the label (44,642) by Andrew crisostomo from Canada, niagara falls If the album was terrible I'd understand the low sales of the album. But the album is great so I'm sure she'll leave. But also this is a different age of how music gets out. You hear the same 10 songs on the radio and can be a YouTube hit without being on radio. Love the album though. Dedicated is my song. (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 8:33)

Betcha Gon' Know remix (44,641) by Shezz from Pk Other than all the bewilderings brewing around I still get extremely baffled when I hear the lyrics that R Kelly sings on the song. It's like they are singing 2 different songs. If MC spent years perfecting this album, how she let this slide is beyond me. If I shut my brain off and listen I like the song but the song is supposed to be about how she finds her man with another woman in her own bedroom. I think R is talking about another night or another woman. (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 6:25)

Something amiss (44,638) by Randy from USA You know something is wrong when our wonderful webmaster goes off about this era. Let me say this. A couple of fans wanted to say that this wasn't a "get me off this label" album. But the longer we watch this, that's clearly what this is. I don't care about promotion either but wouldn't MC at least put some attempt at promotion, like get people to come to her for interviews etc? She has a great relationship with all the talk shows. So I think this is something purposeful. In addition, I wonder if you all have seen Jermaine's latest reaction to lambs blowing up his twitter about her promoting the drink and not the album. "Okay enough is enough. I can’t continue to let you think, what you see or don’t see is a result of me not knowing what I’m doing, this is bigger than me and in the music business things don’t go as fast as you would always like them to, if you know my history, you know I want to go down as one of the greatest produces of all times, I want to be mentioned with the greats like berry Gordy and Clive Davis when people talk about putting out artist, so for me, allowing you to believe I don’t care about the promotion of the Mariah record and I don’t see you screaming at me, that this song and that song needs to be a single, goes against everything that I’m about, believe me. Everything that you question will be answered ASAP." That lets you know something is going on we don't know about. (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 4:45)

Here we go again (44,637) by Alex from England Remember when some of you had completely lost faith in Mariah's new album and thought it would be a train wreck and then when it was released you were like "she still got it, it's her best album since TEOM" etc etc? Well, I had never lost faith and was one of those people who assumed they didn't know everything that was happening behind the scenes. Fast forward to today. Does any of you really think that Mariah doesn't care about an album that she'd been working on for like 4 years? Do you actually think she doesn't care about it slipping dramatically down the Hot 100? 1. It seems like a video was or is being/will be filmed for YDKWTD, which can only mean the promo is not over yet or could potentially start soon. 2. Mariah has had no control over the singles she's wanted to release for years and she still doesn't like most artists who are tied to a label and a record company. 3. Being a mom, she's probably never gonna do as much promo as she used to. Not saying that I'm glad with how little promo we've gotten so far as we all agree there should more. 4. The album is one of her best, at least a lot of critics and most importantly fans seem to think so. So while everyone is complaining about this, that, the other, I'm gonna keep playing that album on repeat and just revel in the incredible music she's given us once again. Last but not least, I just don't get fans who say she'd better quit if she's not gonna promote her albums. Are we fans of the music or the charts? (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 3:13)

What's going on? (44,636) by Jamie from UK I really am loosing patience with Mariah, the music is great, so why are we getting a half hearted effort from her? Considering this took her so long to complete, it's like she's just abandoned it. Nobody wants water from you, we have Evian for that. This whole persona is not working anymore, people do not like that side of you. It was quirky in 2001 during Glitter but now it's just ridiculous. By now you should be a respected artist, doing great live shows etc. But I think you need to wake up as everybody else has. For somebody of your calibre people should be saying I can't wait for the next Mariah album, but all their doing is wondering what happened to you. I know you say your early days weren't the real you, but you never acted this way in the Daydream era or even Butterfly when you said you were free, even in TEOM and E=MC2 era people really respected you and you could sense that when you performed live, so why act this way now? Stand up and be noticed again for the rare talent that you are and not for this silly behaviour that is now unfortunately bigger than your music. I will always be a fan, but if I could sit you down and tell you what you really need to do believe me I would, as for the people around you their not doing you any good at all. Rant over. (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 2:43)

G.G. / Roe's hair hurting (44,635) by Edward from USA G.G., as we already know hair doesn't hurt, so it was obviously sarcasm. Lol. (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 1:52)

Is a change coming? (44,634) by Will from Australia I found it very interesting that Mariah attended that silly drink press conference in much more suitable attire than we've seen in quite a while, I mean she wore a diva gown to the bloody playground before. I wonder if it's beginning to sink in that the public ain't buying the chanteuse diva image. Or if it's a case of that's Mariah the business woman and the other is Mariah the singer. Either way I hope a change is gonna come. On another note, the gloves. I think she has suffered nerve damage from either the fall or something else. She usually always has her right hand covered, sometimes both and in the video for You're Mine she puts her right hand to her hair/face and there is a strange shaking going on with it. Has anyone else noticed that? (Wednesday 11 June 2014; 0:39)

YDKWTD single (44,633) by Jono from USA So is this no longer a single and is the promotion done for this album? It's a shame. I don't really listen to radio (because pop music has turned awful), but having done it the past couple of weeks to see how Mariah would compare, YDKWTD would sound so fricking fresh. No joke. Even though this has a throwback feel, it would sound so unique in between the autotune dance tracks and the hipster mumford and sons sounding songs. Mariah and co, please don't blow this opportunity. As lambs we're not expecting TEOM level success, but for people to know that MIAM exists. YDKWTD is the type of mass appeal song that people of all ages would like. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 22:47)

Baffled and bewildered (44,632) by Marissa from USA The more time goes on, the less I understand Mariah and her decisions and I think that's why she's lost a huge chunk of her fanbase. Why the hell would you put out an album that was 5 years in the making and barely promote it before and after the album dropped? Why put so much effort into a project and watch it flop without trying to save it? I don't only support MC when she's commercially successful, but the reason I want her to be is because this is a wonderful album deserving of success. No one wants to see a quality album flopping worldwide because barely anyone knows it exists/cares. She drops the best album since TEOM and this is when she decides to "put a wall up and walk away" from promotion. The "I have 18 #1 hits and I write all my songs" thing is not going to work for promotion or hype anymore. Once people find out her last hit was in '08 they write her off as irrelevant. Welcome to the world. The GP has a "what have you done for me lately" mentality no matter how extraordinary your accomplishments were in the past. Now some drinks? This is like watching a train wreck. Like someone said, if they aren't buying your album they damn sure aren't buying your drink. I too am feeling like maybe MC is doing some things to chase the $ sign like this new drink line and even American Idol when she said for years that she couldn't see herself being a judge on that show. I love MC, but it's increasingly difficult to support a person you are straight up confused by. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 22:17)

Re: post (44,611) by Edward (44,631) by G.G. from USA "Roe's hair has been hurting a lot, so Mariah needs to promote her Butterfly beverage (only for women obviously) to be able to take care of medical bills." What? What does that mean and where did you read that? (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 21:53)

Re: Jermaine's letter (44,629) by G.G. from USA Jermaine's letter to the lambs: "You know I want to go down as one of the greatest producers of all times." That's great Jermaine, but a manger and a producer are two very different things. Stick to producing. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 21:33)

Re: Mariah as a family member (44,628) by G.G. from USA If Mariah were my family member, I would sit her down and be real with her. I would tell her the truth, not just what she wanted to hear. I would tell her to get her promo game and her live performances together. I would tell her to get a stylist and choreographer immediately and to stop with the unrelatable diva attitude, rambling interviews and no more "dahlings". It's no longer funny or cute. I would tell her that all this mess is tarnishing her image and her brand and that to be on top again she needs a complete image overhaul. Sometimes the truth hurts, but we can all grow from the truth if we're willing to listen. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 21:23)

Taylor (44,627) by Me. I am Carly from USA I see what you are saying, especially about business versus music career, my guess is that Mariah believes that branding is the only way she will stay current long term. I get the feeling that having a husband like Nick Cannon may also have shifted her focus. Ofcourse Mariah's talent doesn't seem like it would need a bigger brand but I believe that is where her head is right now. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 21:14)

Butterfly beverage (44,626) by G.G. from USA "By holding a smartphone up to the bottle, fans will be able to access an entertainment network curated by Mariah. Fans who purchase the Gatorade-like beverage will be taken to Mimi-land or her social network that is filled with galleries, videos, and exclusive content." I'm so confused. Isn't that what Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and MariahCarey.com are for? Who other than die hard fans are going to want to do this? I'm so confused by the promo ideas that Mariah is coming up with. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 21:14)

Appearance (44,625) by B from USA Mariah's always been insecure about her appearance so I understand why she doesn't want to film a music video until she looses weight. Promoting the beverage instead of the music is bizarre. The honey flavored tea would make more sense. If people don't want to buy her music, why would they want to buy her beverage? She needs to get it together, ASAP. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 20:52)

Butterfly drink, M.C.E.O. (44,624) by Manny from U.S. I became curious about Kevin Liles, the man next to Mariah at the Butterfly drink press conference. He is the former CEO of Def Jam. I thought: how would IDJ executives (or technically what used to be IDJ) feel about Mariah joining forces with the previous CEO of Def Jam? Mariah is looking for more business opportunities. Mariah even made a joke of almost naming MIAM, M.C.E.O. Kevin Liles has a big vision for Go N'Syde. They are joining forces with 40/40 clubs, owned by Jay. The state of the music business is different now. The major music companies fell apart when file sharing came along. iTunes became bigger. I wonder how much iTunes paid Mariah to have her CD streaming? It does seem unfair for us fans how Mariah is handling this. We see Mariah as an artist, singer, and performer. Mariah is The Voice. Mariah is looking at it from a business perspective. So much money is at stake, why would she risk losing it? (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 19:31)

Mean girls and lambily (44,623) by Me. I am Carly from USA Why do all these comments remind me of mean girls? Remember Regina George gained weight and Katy and her friends made the board about how she was losing her band of loyal followers haha, ofcourse in the movie, Regina was nicer after she lost her "popularity". Can someone post that list? Another thing, I hate bullies, there is a way to make helpful suggestion without being a bully. Ask yourself when you post, am I being a Bull or a Lamb, have a bit of empathy. Being a lamb is not blind worship, iT is acting like family. So imagine Mariah was a family member. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 18:48)

Good review from Trusted Broadsheet in the Philippines (44,622) by Louie Baltazar from Philippines There was a time not too long ago when Mariah Carey was ranked the Number 1 diva in the entire world. She not only took the music industry by storm when she gave veterans like Madonna, the late Whitney Houston, and even Janet Jackson competition, she also gave them a run for their money when she burst into the music scene. With her unique signature style, Mariah managed to make a name for herself even though she was surrounded by the aforementioned tough competition who themselves were soon to become icons like her in the future. Aside from her stunning looks, especially when she was at the prime of her career starting in the mid-90s, Mariah Carey is an artist that I will always remember for the sheer outstanding quality of her voice which had a 5-octave vocal range and which at the time was so rare and thus, stupendously impressive. Mariah Carey was a complete package. She had the looks and the charm that captivated her audience. But more importantly, she had the musical chops to back it all up. Her "angelic sounding" voice soon became a familiar sound in households tuned in to their radios around the world. Each time she had new singles from her albums to promote, her music videos became a regular thing to see on music channels. Mariah has had so many top charting hits already that I have lost count of them. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 18:41)

Body after dem babies (44,621) by Me. I am Carly from USA I also want to suggest that maybe Mariah was telling the truth about twins widening her stomach, maybe she did have a tough pregnancy after all regarding her body and many woman even get ptsd from having traumatic birth situations. If she is very skinny it is less obvious ofcourse but she is perfectly healthy now. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 18:30)

Brad from USA (44,620) by John from USA I couldn't have said it better myself. I always love it when the "true lambs" get angry at those of us lambs (and we are lambs) who are upset with the lack of commercial success. Do they not realize that Mariah herself always uses her past success (18 #1 hits, 200 million records sold, etc) as part of her hype and brand? I mean, she used it on AI to shade Nicki Minaj. Mariah really hasn't had any sizeable success since the beginning of the E=MC2 era (maybe Obsessed, which was a top 10 hit). So she's losing more and more credibility in that area. Like E=MC2, MIAM is full of hit singles. I mean, why "You're Mine" was released instead of "Thirsty" or "YDKWTD" in February is beyond me. Great song, horrible single choice. I think at this point it's obvious that Mariah can only succeed with a great management and PR team. She may be a musical genius (no denying that), but at this point, I'd say that's about it. She's clearly not a smart businesswoman. She's slowly but surely destroying what's left of her career and any chances for future commercial success. At least we have the memories. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 18:25)

MORE MESSAGES