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Behind the scenes, we don't have the full picture (44,619) by Me. I am Carly from USA If you ask me to guess, behind the scenes right now, Mariah and Nick are in relationship counseling through church, trying to save marriage. Mariah deciding to not fire nannies and instead just be with kids more. Mariah doing meeting to find ways to own her brand, and brand herself. Mariah holding off on official videos before she loses more weight. She could very well be on hormones and other things at this age that impact weight. She may be building muscle which initially makes her boxier. Her top half is slimmer already. Would you tell the world all these secrets? Probably not. We didn't know she was doing the drink, that is not all we don't know. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 18:22)

Need a healthy version of Butterfly (44,618) by Me. I am Carly from USA The drink is not about a drink at all, for Mariah it is purely about promotion. I hope they can come up with a healthy version, meaning no fake sugar or crap but just water with real fruit infused or a tea without sugar. I can't drink this version but will still buy it for the content. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 18:00)

Platinum single (44,617) by Chicago Lamb from USA Lets not forget MIAM features the platinum, potentially double platinum single #Beautiful. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 17:11)

I love new Mariah music (44,616) by enwar00 from usa I disagree with some comments. I'd rather see Mariah release an album and not promote it, than her not release an album. Of course it would make a lot of us proud if she opened at #1 and had a hit single, myself included, but it's obvious that some people truly care more about her being popular and selling than hearing new music from her. I also don't believe that no label would sign her. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 17:10)

Mariah could learn from this board alone, truth (44,615) by Brad from USA Hi fellow lambs. I haven't commented in a minute but I have to say I do like the album. MILG, YDWTD, Camouflage, Supernatural and Money are my favs, in that order. That said, the marketing of this "project" is an insult to the fans on this board alone. She has hyped her success as part of her image and now doesn't seem a bit interested in assuring it in any way. I think "letting go" is letting go of us, the fans, fame, money, whatever. But she needs to let go of that sycophant, JD. Learn from JJ, bb. And she may just have to because if she no longer appeals to me, a fan of 24+ years who is fortunate enough to be able to fly to various cities and see her concerts in the front row, then she isn't going to appeal to anyone with her current public image. I hope she has soundly invested what money she made. And her new beverage? Mess. Her "performance" at the presser for this drink was scattered, as ever. Not to mention it alienates the super majority of people who care enough to even post on this board, which I venture to say is about two-thirds gay males (including myself). Still, I aint gonna buy no pink bottle with sugar water in it. Have a little more forethought than that MC, jeeesh. Why not make it honey flavored tea that's good for the voice, I could maybe see that. Also, if the voice is gone for live performances, be upfront. It's not your fault per se and it will actually humanize you to the public. Sorry to be negative but life aint all Butterfly beverages. Truth. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 17:06)

Last album ever (44,614) by Ken from USA Obviously it won't be her last album ever. MC is rich enough to record whatever and release it. Of course it won't be anywhere near as successful as it would be with a label, but she will still make albums. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 17:06)

Edward from USA (44,613) by John from USA Lol you sound almost as disgruntled as I am. I'm kinda starting not to care about MIAM flopping as hard as it has. I mean, Memoirs flopped, but MIAM has just gone bombs away. And she has no one to blame but herself and her incompetent team. Maybe this will be a wakeup call, like you and I have been saying. I mean, I still haven't forgiven her for E=MC2, and I now believe that was the last chance she had for an epic era. Moving forward, I'd be really happy with a gold album and a Top 10 radio hit single. But perhaps this is Mariah's turn to go the way of Janet and Celine. Then again, Celine actually sells internationally lol. Mariah is so much better than this, and MIAM proves she still has that magic touch to make amazing music. But the question is, does she care anymore? If she wants to retire and be a full-time mom, that's totally fine. Just don't release albums if that's what you want. If you're going to release an album, please put in the work required to not have it sell only five copies. End of. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 16:41)

Promo model fail (44,612) by Chicago Lamb from USA Mariah told David Letterman she "wanted to do it differently", that she wanted "the album to be heard as a whole". She said people were asking her about the next single and its promo. She wanted to try it another way. Clearly, it did not work and like the webmaster said, who will want to sign her if the last release did not sell well? (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 16:34)

The reason for no promotion / be patient (44,611) by Edward from USA Roe's hair has been hurting a lot, so Mariah needs to promote her Butterfly beverage (only for women obviously) to be able to take care of medical bills. It is disappointing seeing her promoting anything other than an album that took her 5 years to release. No word of any other single being released, so fans now will finally leave the "Migrate should've been a single" litany to jump on YDKWTD, MILG for the next 5 years? What is going on? Maybe all this mess is a blessing in disguise, she might humble herself a little bit like back when she was still popular. Maybe she'll realize that people don't like this over the top diva persona she has put on since E=MC2. Nobody is telling her that she comes across as arrogant and unrelatable. The more control she gets over things, now with JD as a poppet manager, the worse things get. Maybe this is a wake up call. Another weird thing, I haven seen any particular song from this album into iTunes top 100. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 16:01)

Adam from the US (44,610) by John from USA Your post summarizes my thoughts exactly. Mariah provided us with an amazing album. Even many of the critics agree. And that is precisely why it kills me that it's not doing better. She really does deserve success with this album. Not only is it just a great record by itself, it also has several songs that could do really well commercially (Meteorite, Thirsty, and YDKWTD). Mariah is synonymous with commercial success whether people like it or not (or, at least she used to be). I understand if Mariah just wants to be a mother not be a machine. That's fine. By why release this album at all, then? Why put in years of hard work in writing and record these amazing songs if you're just going to let the entire ship sink? If Mariah wants to retire to take some more time off for her family, I fully support her. I just wish she could pick a path and then stick with it. If you're going to release an album as great as MIAM, then get out there and promote it. It deserves to be heard by as many people as possible. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 15:16)

Streaming (44,609) by Lamb_O_Chop from Australia I'm convinced Mariah doesn't/didn't care about this album not doing well. Why else would she stream it for a whole week prior to its release. She practically gave the album away. If I'm not mistaking the album is still streaming. So in reality only the real fans will go out and support the album for the sake of supporting Mariah. However, the general public won't buy an album that they could listen to free of charge. Mistake? It depends on what Mariah was expecting. Maybe she just wanted it to be a gift to the fans and garner critical acclaim or maybe she thought streaming the album would make ppl want to buy it after hearing the masterpiece it truly is. Your guess is as good as mine. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 14:56)

Letting go ain't easy (44,608) by Alexis from USA I know you're mad, but Mariah condoms sound epic. Aside from that, Tina Turner was one of a generation's most powerful voices. But what was she doing when I was little? Promoting pantyhose. Prince's new music video barely has him in it. Cher waited 12 years to release an album in 2013. If not for me living in Vegas, I'd have no idea what Celine Dion is up to. Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston are dead. You can be amazing and not be the most popular artist all the time - it happens. Maybe she's helping herself remember that she no longer lives in that dominion where it was all about being number one and breaking records. Maybe she's just about her kids and she did mention on some interviews wanting this to be a statement record in case it was her last album. 24 years is a long time and if she wants to pump her brakes and stop being the machine we know she can be, is that the end of the world? (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 14:22)

Just my thoughts (44,607) by Adam from US I agree with post 44,601. I do think sales are not all of it. But they go hand in hand. I want Mariah to sell millions and have #1's because I'm a fan and I believe she deserves it. I really love this album and I'm completely upset it's not doing better. And I'm upset at the lack of promotion. I love that Mariah gave us this album, but there's not anything wrong with wanting her to hit #1 either. I just don't really understand what's going on. I don't know why the label or Mariah didn't release a single before releasing the album. To get the hype going. And I don't think they shipped many copies. My local Walmart had 8. And then I bought 2. I went back the other day and 1 was left. Target had 2 stacks and I bought 2 Target Editions and there's 1 left a couple days ago and 4 regular left. A huge music store in Charlotte only had 7 left the week of release. But at all of these places, there was no and I mean none promotion at all. No signs. No posters. Nothing. Even at Walmart there's a place upfront where new music is at and Mariah wasn't there. Miranda Lambert is all over it this week. Something just isn't right. I have now bought 7 copies all on separate receipts. I just don't know. I'm annoyed. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 14:10)

Webmaster (44,606) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom I agree, which is partly why I have been radio silent on the issue of lack of promotion in recent days. The way I see it is, if Mariah can't be bothered to promote her record, or give fans some memorable performances (ie not dubbed or lipped), then I'm certainly not going to be bothered. If Mariah thinks that promoting some ridiculous beverage is in touch with what her fans want, then she's clearly out of touch and needs a serious reality check. Either that, or she's showing what's really important to her, which is the dollar sign. I can't tell you how disappointing it is to see someone, who says they seriously love their craft, fail to show it any due support or recognition. 57,000 copies on an album in her first week in the US shows how much her fan base has deteriorated. I can guarantee you that those 57,000 copies represent probably only around 35-40k fans, as a lot of them will have bought multiple copies. Perhaps if she took live performances more seriously, as opposed to attending events to do with a brand of water or whatever, she's a) have more than 40,000 US fans left, and b) had a voice worth hearing live in tact. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 13:45)

Mariah: Business Woman vs Artist (44,605) by Taylor from USA I believe that at this point, we have Mariah the Business Woman instead of Mariah the Artist. That's not a criticism, but my honest assessment. With the latest launch of the beverage product, which is utterly confusing since there's been very minimal promotion for the album, we can perhaps conclude that Mariah has shifted her professional priorities. Music may still be her personal priority, but it has taken a back seat because from a business standpoint it no longer is lucrative. Unfortunately, that appears to be the reality because it has always been about business even if Mariah was originally an artist instead of a business woman. A part of me is slightly resentful because as a fan from the very beginning, others like myself have supported and launched Mariah the Artist, so for her to be so silent and not acknowledge our frustration seems like we are no longer appreciated. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 13:41)

MIAM (44,604) by Billy from England, UK Didn't Mariah say this album is for her fans/lambs so maybe she's not bothered about it charting or who is buying it as long as her lambs have new music to listen to, I don't know? To me that's how I feel what she has done, because as you know she isn't bothering promoting the album which is a shame. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 13:37)

I can't believe what I'm seeing (44,603) by PJW from The U.K. Mariah is out promoting a drink in a pink bottle called Butterfly, sipping it out of a champagne flute. She's even more out of rich (I meant to say touch but spell check put rich and it was so appropriate to this mess that it's staying) than I thought. Mariah; 1. You've halved your market and consumer appeal with the name and colour. 2. Drinking something marketed to the masses out of a champagne flute is bad, bad marketing. I had to re read three times just to double check this isn't alcoholic. As if non fans are going to bother reading at all. People perceive things by initial presentation and this isn't a good one. 3. You've got an album out. No one is buying that, let alone your drink. All the while J. D. Is telling lambs on twitter "enough is enough". Look, I understand what lambs can be like but starting on the fans is shooting yourself whilst you're already down. If you ask me, sing sing is burning down all over again. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 13:37)

Webmaster (44,602) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I completely agree with you (except for the merchandise part because I bought many lol). I care about Mariah but I am not stupid. People are saying that they are fine with just making music and don't care about sales. well first of all no label would want to sign her up and if her sales keep on falling like this I am sure Mariah herself will just not make any more albums because well what's in it for her? Her legendary image getting tarnished more? Her sales have taken a plunge by the second week, and some are saying that oh come on there is still time. Well we hoped the same for YME but it dropped off the face of the earth by the second week. And I would like to ask the fans bashing others saying that Mariah is not promoting her album because she may have personal problems and people are being selfish for wanting a good chart position, what exactly do you have to say now that she is out and about promoting a beverage and not an album she spent 5 years on? (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 12:43)

Promotion (44,601) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands Me. I Am Mariah... is dropping all over the world. In the USA it will sell less than 15,000 in the second week, and likely it will drop to number 16. And what is Mariah doing? She is promoting a beverage. What the fuck? I'm not disappointed, I'm furious. Some of you will say that sales are not important, only the quality of the songs. But if her last album will sell less than 100,000, do you think record companies are waiting in line to contract her? Of course not. That means this could be her last album ever, not because she doesn't want to release more albums, but because no record company wants to release her albums. I'm a fan of Mariah the singer, and I hate all the perfumes, shoes, jewelry, beverages etc she promotes. I never bought any of that and I never will. What's next? Condoms? (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 11:48)

Nick Cannon (44,600) by Chicago Lamb from USA Faded and Camouflage are about Nick. The only happy love song on the album is about Roc and Roe. Mariah has always written her songs from a personal perspective. ll this "I want the listener to apply it to their lives" is b.s. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 4:48)

From number 3 to number 16 (44,599) by Anonymous from I feel so sorry for Mariah, she made a really good album but she hired the wrong person as her manager and now we all see the results. It's funny that she's promoting that Butterfly bottle instead of her album. Whatever, it's her problem. Sometimes we need lessons to learn. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 3:48)

On the verge of something great I'm sure (44,598) by IheartMC from USA I am loving the new album and have been a fan since the beginning. I am sure what Mariah is doing, because of the lack of label backing, is trying to see what songs are hits with the fans/public to finally promote with the right hit single. Also they are probably trying to use the money gained for the album to promote the album. Because let's be honest she hasn't had a hit this go-round. So how else can she be promoted without anything popping off from the album yet. Def hope everything starts to pick up. Just trying to spin things more positvely considering the sales figures although we cannot complain, our girl gave us a great album. Here is hoping for the best because a life without Mariah Carey is an empty one lol. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 3:27)

Chill guys (44,597) by Zachary from Croatia I am reading all your posts about her losing and waiting like now and lack of promo and some kind of poor sales (she debuted the third damn it) and that she has to get in shape and you all bitching about singles and the right ones and festive freaking videos. My head will explode. [...] Chill guys. I buy an album because of the whole story on it, not the singles or videos or that she has to punch back to this young "singers" or etc. It's Mariah guys. She is it. She is happening. Always. And then some. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 1:08)

Me. I am Mariah album (44,596) by Robby from Norway We are so blessed to hear yet another great masterpiece from our dear Mariah. I am in love with this album and I listen to this album more than one hundred times already and yet I still crave for it. It is such a great album but sadly sales are not that great. When technology upgraded, so as the capacity of people to pirate. I am so sad about this whole piracy thing but what can we do? Mariah made so much sales long before Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus or Beyonce were known. I would love to see Mariah break The Beatles with the most number ones but if it will not happen, so what? She gave music to my ears and no matter what, "She will [...], never a [...]." Mariah will always be Mariah. A legend. (Tuesday 10 June 2014; 0:30)

Daydream 327 / thoughts (44,595) by clueey23 from USA Thank you for your post. This messageboard can be draining at times with the negativity. But I agree with your post and a few others that are speaking more in the vein of artistry instead of sales figures and hit singles. I've stated it before but, I love this album. The only thing that I can ask of MC is to continue to do her and grow. (Monday 9 June 2014; 21:17)

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