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Mariah's "fakeness" (44,440) by Justin from USA - Los Angeles Are you guys serious? I am so disappointed that you all agree she was being fake on NBC. She was definitely being herself. That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. I'm disappointed you are acting non-lamb like. "Fake" are you serious? (Tuesday 3 June 2014; 1:02)

Vocal fold gel (44,439) by Me. I am Carly from USA Well I was just reading an article about Julie Andrews, remember she lost her voice with vocal surgery? In the "Mail online" article from 2011 they mention this "A new type of gel has been created by scientists to tackle damaged voice boxes, prompted by the singer Julie Andrews. The team behind the research say the gel, which is injected into the vocal cords, could revolutionise the treatment of voice complaints." I really hope Mariah might have some options like this in the future. (Monday 2 June 2014; 23:30)

PJW (44,438) by Will from Australia Thanks PJW for standing up for me through the barage of negative responses. You have the intelligence to interpret the true meaning of it. Sometimes people on this board are so blind and defensive but it is what is as MC would say. (Monday 2 June 2014; 23:16)

Ronald Chap (44,436) by ChristineMariah from Germany I totally agree. There has been zero promotion here in Germany too. If I wouldn't have checked Amazon last week I would have not known that the album was released. That's sick and sad. (Monday 2 June 2014; 22:43)

Most of us know the difference (44,435) by Joe from United Kingdom Just wanted to put it out there that most of us already know the difference between dubbed and lip sync vocals. I have no problem with live vocals that are dubbed over to a certain degree or partly lip sync but when you lip sync all the climaxes to your songs, do 3 takes edit them together (badly) and then dub over what was atleast live it becomes beyond pointless. I'm going to stop here because I'm beginning to sound like I'm not a fan. I say this out of love and knowing what she is capable of and not to be negative. By the way I still catch the holy spirit from Mariah's impromptu performances so I know she can still sing. I just wish I could feel the same way about her actual some what live televised performances. (Monday 2 June 2014; 22:41)

Certain (44,434) by Orkun from The Netherlands My thoughts on the album is known by know and I won't repeat myself. And I really don't want to get in the way of the fans who honestly do like the album. What I am certain of is the following: I was 14 in 1990. I'm a songwriter and recording artist because of her. She is 100% one of the angels in my life. God knows how many times I listened to her to find comfort. And I did, more with her earlier recordings. After this album, Mariah will come clean and explain it all. And she will come back next time with a more solid album and re-write history. And the next album won't be late. A year maybe. And she will stop lip syncing. It's hard being Mariah. But real fans know her. She is a fighter. So are we. Mariah, remember who you are. Gimmicks really can go too far sometimes. Single choices may be wrong, but they are still written by you. You can do much much better. When the walls you mention are up, we notice and understand. But when they are up all the time, we get disconnected. The walls are a double edged knife. I do believe Mariah has to prove herself again. And she will with the next album. Because she truly is gifted. Just a little lost and that of course very human. I'm gonna say it: I love Walter A. I hate JD. I love Whitney. I hate Christina. I like Ariana, but she's so not Mariah. I used to like Nick, until he hurt my angels feelings with that stupid interview. Nick is not a funny comedian. Mariah on the other hand can crack jokes anytime. . (Monday 2 June 2014; 21:30)

Re: tour / live vs. television (44,432) by nikki from usa Her biggest tour to date is still Charmbracelet where she didn't have any radio hits and only went platinum. Mariah's Beautiful did better and sold more than TTR had and on an international level to boot. It's the best vehicle for her to sing the entirety of "her body of work". This would also be her first tour in 5 years, 7 years if we don't count the showcase that was Memoirs. There's more reasons to have one than not to. Reading what people deem "live"or "lipsync" and what they claim they can "tell" is completely absurd. Being a live performance is meaningless if its on tv. There are always producers, dubbs, and cut and paste. Each song that is sung live is done so 2-4 times for tv. People will keep pointing to the Daydream tour video as great live performances when they are all dubbed. Did she sing great? Yes, she did, but that didn't stop the footage from being tampered with. People like to point to her version of You And I as a great vocal moment. Sorry to inform you kitties, her vocals were rough that day and I still have the original copy. It was not one of her finest. Her rerun of that performance had some doctoring done. There is no live performance without tv tampering before viewing. No one is qualified to deem lip syncing or not unless you're viewing the live performance from a fan's iphone that was physically there. Especially, since so many can't tell the difference between a lead vs. background vocal. (Monday 2 June 2014; 21:09)

PJW / Ian James (44,431) by Bill from the UK It's a sorry state of affairs when Mariah may genuinely give a great live performance and her fans automatically assume it is lipped. WBT was clearly live, Fab completely ruined any illusion that Money was live, but I think Heavenly was. I think the reality is that it was recorded live, then dubbed or fixed up in the studio. And here's a wake up call for all the naysayers, (caps) that has always been the case (end caps). Not just Mariah, but every artist. Mariah's home videos on Sony (Unplugged, Here Is Mariah, MSG, Around the World) were all dubbed, no singer in the world can have an unerring sense of pitch when performing live. You watch those back and compare them to today's "real" live performances (ie caught on smartphones) and it's obvious. PJW, great post on Meteorite. Ian James, loved the Emotions video. Proof she still has it. Really half the time it comes down to alcohol. She must have been off the sauce then as she was pregnant. What a difference. (Monday 2 June 2014; 20:57)

Stress stress stress and self care (44,430) by Me. I am Carly from USA I bet it is quite stressful to have a husband talk silliness but also stressful to have half your lambs angry at your husband, no matter what is going on she must feel a need to distance herself from him publicly. The number one fear for Mariah was to have a child without a strong family unit, it must be hard to deal with his distance with work and travels, fear of the marriage not working. The celebrity world is ugly and the machine generally dislikes strong, over 40, shapely women. Most of us would never survive the abuse of the celebrity machine when Mariah started she fit the mold now she doesn't and they are so vicious. Sadly we sometimes must fall on the other side of the wall that protects M.C. For sanity. (Monday 2 June 2014; 20:19)

Tour (44,429) by Rón from United Kingdom In my opinion, with these reported poor sales and no one knowing about the album other than fans, I am really skeptical about the tour. It has been said since American Idol that a world tour is on the way but with such alleged limited success and no promo, I can see this tour being plugged especially outside of America. The album is so great but it won't survive and I really want to see her live. Anyone agree? (Monday 2 June 2014; 19:18)

NBC performances (44,428) by Joe from United Kingdom I have not seen the entire NBC special and seriously want to see the interviews. As for the performances I was going to post about the lip synching but didn't want to be negative but I have to be honest. As much as I love Mariah and don't try to bash her (check my previous post) I need her to take what she does vocally in her impromptu performances into her actual performances strip back the entire arrangement if you have to but its getting to a point where she even lip's her mid range belts now which I know in reality she can hit easily. I understand she has nothing to prove that's fine. Its just when I listen to her songs now I automatically know what notes she will be lip synching. Mariah can still sing, we all know that this is the only reason it's starting to bother me. I know she can do it if she tried. To those saying that people need to clean their ears out and that you can clearly hear the differences vocally compared to the studio track the differences your hearing are the fact that through out the performance it's switching back and forth between a live vocal and a studio or pre-recorded track. I don't think people complaining about the lip-syching are being negative, it's just being real. (Monday 2 June 2014; 18:51)

June 2nd 1990 (44,427) by Nicole from US From Billboard, June 2, 1990: Twenty-four years ago today, the Mariah Carey era began on Billboard charts. The then-20-year-old newcomer made her entrance with debut single "Vision of Love", which launched at No. 73 on the Billboard Hot 100 and No. 85 on Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs. It would eventually lead both charts. (Monday 2 June 2014; 18:40)

Home concert (44,426) by G.G. from USA She had the performance at her home because it is a controlled environment. That way there wouldn't be any mess ups televised to the general public. Like when she got caught lip synching on the Today show. Notice that none of the "audience members" have talked about being there on Twitter or anywhere else. It was a very small audience as we could see. Paid actors perhaps? That might be why they haven't talked about the concert at her home. (Monday 2 June 2014; 18:22)

Mary J. Blige (44,425) by Will from England For the record, I like the two MOAIA duets. I really do. And I've only just realised that Mary is only the second female artist that Mariah has sung with on a record. The first being naturally, Whitney. (Monday 2 June 2014; 18:08)

Give Will a break / Mariah's "fakeness" (44,424) by PJW from The U.K. The definition of the word fake is not genuine. There were points in the interview where her smile was plastered on and her eyes slightly glazed over as she was mentally processing. There were other points where she was visibly and literally squirming in the chair. Her body language showed she was un-comfortable and irritable. At one point I thought she was actually going to stand up. But, being media trained and this being an interview for her benefit, she smiled on, answered the questions (nicely, I hasten to add - again, honesty, maturity and comfort are not synonymous) and did her job. She consciously fulfilled what was necessary whilst sub consciously demonstrating she wasn't comfortable. She does it all the time. She's a celebrity and we don't see her real persona in interviews like that. That means yes, she's not being genuine and/or fake but that doesn't necessarily have to be a negative thing. That's for your individual interpretation or misunderstanding of a word and it's connotation and shouldn't leave Will open to the tone of comments he receives or the reading of the Mariah riot act for being observant and telling the truth. (Monday 2 June 2014; 17:30)

NBC special (44,423) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I really liked the interview. I disagree with anyone that said she came off as fake. This is exactly the kind of interview Mariah needs, not the ones where she keeps talking about random stuff and not answering questions and cracking jokes about her boobs. She was down to earth and sweet which makes her look humble and more approachable. Don't get me wrong I do love Mariah's diva moments every now and then, but the GP probably take it negatively because they don't understand it's a joke. Anyways, and the person saying that Mariah has gotten lazy to do the concert at home. Please, this is what makes it seem so intimate and looks like she is singing to us directly from her home, like the private concert she did for the lucky winners of the contest. I enjoyed the interview and wished it would go on for a while. Mariah's eyes looked ready at some parts which made me really sad. I think all the performances except Money were live. The only thing I wanted was for her to sing a few more songs from the album especially ones she didn't perform yet like Faded and Dedicated or Cry or MILG instead of playing the YME clip and the YDKWTD clip. (Monday 2 June 2014; 16:33)

I 200% agree with Sunshine from Germany (44,422) by Louie Baltazar from Philippines I understand that we are entitled to post our comments and say whatever is on our mind but please do not forget the word respect. This is a fan site. As far as I know we are supposed to be supporting MC. This gives me an idea to look tor the real meaning of a fan: A fan, sometimes also called aficionado, fanny or supporter, is a person who is [...] to something, such as a band, a sports team or entertainer. Collectively, fans of a particular thing or person constitute its fanbase or fandom. They may show their enthusiasm by being members of a fan club, holding or participating in fan conventions, creating fanzines, writing fan mail, or by promoting the object of their interest and attention. On the other hand I thought that some fans here are just confused and just thought of themselves as fans after buying some CD's or after listening to some music of MC but they are more of a critic. A critic is a professional who communicates their opinions and assessments of various forms of creative work such as art, literature, music, cinema, theater, fashion, architecture and food. Critical judgments, whether derived from critical thinking or not, may be positive, negative, or balanced, weighing a combination of factors both for and against. (Monday 2 June 2014; 16:20)

Target edition (44,421) by Billy from Greece Does anybody know if the Target edition of MIAM comes with both the Japanese cover as well as with the "regular deluxe" version cover? I want the close-up version (with the hair pulled back) but some sellers on ebay and amazon advertize the Target version with the cover of the deluxe edition. Any clue? On another note, still waiting for my standard edition to arrive, while no record store has the cd in my city so far, which has irritated me profusely. (Monday 2 June 2014; 16:07)

hpod (44,420) by Ian James from Sabah, Malaysia She's still here. (Monday 2 June 2014; 15:57)

Will and diva lamb sunshine lol (44,419) by M from USA I think Will has a point. Mariah's interview was good and genuine. But her performance for Money was lipped. How stupid did Fabulous look rapping every other word as he lowered the mic in his rap. Hello. The track was playing and I am so over Mariah laying down in her performances. She just doesn't get it. It came off terrible. And how lazy has MC become to have a concert at her mansion? Sing at a real venue. She replayed the Today show performance which was her worst lipped I have ever seen and Wale rapping over his rap with different sayings like "hey ya'll" while the track is playing his rap come off so lazy and cheesy. Mariah said it herself in the interview that she has a lot less time with dembabies but in my opinion I don't think she cares about promoting her album. If she does tour, she won't sell theaters let alone arenas based on her lipping and lack of live performances. How tragic. (Monday 2 June 2014; 15:14)

Vocal rest (44,418) by Dan from US Do you guys remember when Mariah used to go on vocal rest and use like cards with phrases instead of speaking before all of her performances. She doesn't have time for that now, she has dem babies she takes care of. And I also think 24 years later she has nothing else to prove to anyone and this album is for us her true fans. (Monday 2 June 2014; 15:03)

Mariah (44,417) by Hana from UK How I miss that girl. I'm not here for the diva sitting on the piano, or the diva standing stiff without breaking out a sweat lip-syncing. "Who is she?" (Monday 2 June 2014; 14:40)

Re: Will from Australia / the overall atmosphere here (44,416) by Sunshine Divalamb from Germany She was fake on the NBC special? Are you for real? This was by far one of the most honest interviews she gave in a long time, and I'm hoping I misunderstood that part of your message. To say she is just a recording artists now in my opinion is the biggest insult you can give Mariah. Again people should really watch that special closely and listen because she gave a strong performance, and she deserves much more respect for that then she is getting right now. I mentioned this in a previous message that I can say beforehand who is going to be the first to start bashing/be negative/critic the moment Mariah does something, and that is so sad. Some make it hard to enjoy these moments she is sharing with us. I love that people can express themselves on this page, but lately it's turning more into a "how can we bash Mariah this time", or "on what subject can we criticize Mariah on what she posted/wore/sang/released etc". It's okay to not always agree but some of you have taking it way too far. I just hope you are just as critical about yourself as you are of Mariah. I know that there will never be a moment that we all think alike and agree, but I do hope that some hop of this complain train they are on. (Monday 2 June 2014; 14:21)

Meteorite (44,415) by PJW from The U.K. It was only this morning that I really paid attention to the lyrics of "Meteorite". I'm not a huge fan of the album version's production, much preferring and focusing on the alternate version and in doing so overly paying attention to the instrumentation but today it dawned on me that it's a pretty sad song, a meteorite being the metaphor for fame, her career and the effect it has. Mariah opens on Andy Warhol's 15 minute statement then goes on to sing about the world waiting but can you keep up because everyone else is racing (in this fast pace and increasingly desperate industry). She then talks about expectation to put on a show and "try to make it entertaining" but all the while she's like a meteorite; something from far away we view as dazzling and spectacular entertainment but in reality is fragile, speeding too fast, breaking down and burning up by the pressure put on it. She says fame is a flame, again something that can shine brightly but is fragile and can quickly be extinguished. Reading into her process further I was even thinking about her decision to go with the album version rather than the alternate and for me the alternate is prettier, more authentic sounding, more celebratory whereas the album version is heavier, almost drowning out her voice with its synthetic production, much more fitting to the lyrics. Then performing it at the WMAs, infront of the whole industry. Mariah really is a fragile, beautiful genius. (Monday 2 June 2014; 11:36)

I feel so sorry for MC (44,414) by Will from Australia My heart breaks at how things have gone for Mariah. Firstly I think she actually has lost her live voice and that's why she doesn't sing live anymore, she's just a recording artists now and I'm happy for that to be so if we still get music from her. Secondly I fell sorry that she was so fake in the NBC special to try fit in, we all know that's not her, even though we like it, it's just not who she is and nobody should have to change fundamentally who they are. Finally I feel like there is so much going on behind the scenes with God knows what, but everything that's knowable will always be known. Love the album, love Mariah. (Monday 2 June 2014; 10:54)

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