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Singles by KaizenOcean (42,245) by Jay from USA Maybe KaizenOcean meant those singles should have been released in the order he listed them. I don't think that Bye Bye should have been a single. It doesn't sound like a radio friendly song. Migrate of course. I can only imagine if they would have given it the dance remix treatment with resung vocals. I remember when she performed it on SNL and she was on the Ryan Seacrest radio show the next day/week and she said she wasn't happy with the performance. I wonder if any of the dance remixes from the Memoirs album would have been released, if it would have done well on the radio. I was very upset when IDJ scrapped the "Mariah Carey vs Jump Smokers" album. I remember the interviews Jump Smokers were doing while remixing the album and how excited they were to be working with Mariah. Also, very upset about Angels Advocate. Breakdown, also a very wise move had they released it. Lyrically, that song is amazing. It just flows so well. The whole Butterfly album is fantastic. My favorite album by far. From Glitter, a very underrated album for sure, I would have loved for Last Night A DJ Saved My Life to have been released. My favorite performance was on the VH1 Fashion Awards. Of course, the remixes would have been stellar. Especailly if David Morales would have gotten his hands on it. And the video for it was cute. And I thought I was the only one that wanted Now That I Know released as a single. I was so excited when she performed it on tour. (Thursday 20 March 2014; 3:28)

Album possibly pushed back again (42,244) by Alex from England I'll be disappointed as hell as I was the first couple of times it happened. But I feel sorry for Mariah the most because she is the one who has to come out and make up excuses for the general public when IDJ are the ones who decide when/if to release the album. Us lambs know that there is something wrong and I think we should be a bit more supportive of Mariah and show her that we are still here and know that this is not her fault. Yes, her voice has changed, yes she lipsynchs way too much, yes I'd like a bit more creativity when it comes to videos; that being said, I just wish her the best and I know she must be the first to be aware of the state of her vocals and how it probably affects her overall confidence as a live singer. Anyway, if IDJ pushes back that album again, I swear I'll lose it lol. (Thursday 20 March 2014; 3:25)

Edward (42,243) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom Edward, I hadn't thought of it like that, but you're spot on. Mariah probably has little control over that at this stage. If it gets delayed at this stage, they might as well agree to a mutual termination of her contract. It clearly isn't working. (Thursday 20 March 2014; 0:52)

Release date (42,241) by G.G. from USA I will be so mad if she and or IDJ delays the album again. She's been working on this album for what, 4 or 5 years? That is plenty of time to create a great album. Something we are unaware of is going on, either with Mariah or the label or a combination of the two. The album was supposed to be released July 2013. If she pushes it back again, that'll be an entire year delay. I'm a little worried but I'm trying to stay optimistic. (Wednesday 19 March 2014; 23:57)

Edward and Mus (42,240) by Randy from USA I completely agree with both of you and to be honest, I do believe the album is going to be pushed back at this point. But what the hell is she gonna tell us? She can't say "I was waiting for it to be heard the way it should be heard, chronically my full journey." She's already used that. She can't say "Right now things aren't going well in my professional life right now" like she did with Rainbow because IDJ could then sue her for a number of things. Listen, in the 90s Mariah was a machine. She released an album a year, for the most part. We've been waiting since September of 2009 for a studio (non-holiday) album. She has already gone through a release date disappointment. She hasn't been honest about a number of things throughout the years and she doesn't have to be; she's a human being before an artist. This is so frustrating though. She has die-hards and how the hell are we supposed to be sticking around for an album that is taking her back to high school? Mirage. (Only the old fans know that reference lol.) (Wednesday 19 March 2014; 22:59)

Edward (42,239) by Musti from UK I agree, it is entirely up to IDJ. I bet they regret not releasing the album on 7.23 when #Beautiful was still fairly popular, as YME hasn't had the desired effect. I think Mariah hasn't been happy with IDJ since E=MC2, with Migrate not being relased and all. Especially after Memoirs I think Mariah has been just dying to get the hell out of there. Perhaps that's why she released MCIIY when she did because you're not really expected to produce hits out of a Christmas album so she treated it like a "filler" album. I'm not calling the album itself a filler. Only in relation to the number of albums she has left under her contract. If this is her last album with IDJ, I'm sure they want her to cash in big bucks before she leaves. It must be clear to them at this stage that she is leaving after this album. I just hope they don't push her to do things she doesn't want to do just so she can get a hit. (Wednesday 19 March 2014; 22:43)

Album covers (42,238) by Musti from UK My top 2. Best: #1's - Is it just me or does her posture itself here looks like the number 1, with her right arm sticking out? In any event, there is so much confidence and beauty in that photo. Butterfly - Especially the cover on the limited Japanese edition, which is the photo featured at the back on the regular version. That's what I call emancipation. Worst: Glitter - I'm not even sure what it is. Maybe too much glitter? Memoirs - Way too much boobage for my taste. (Wednesday 19 March 2014; 22:27)

IDJ / release date / album needs a hit (42,237) by Edward from USA IDJ is definitely looking for a hit to carry this album. Mariah doesn't have a say about when the album will be released, it is something more about when would have a better chance at succeeding. If IDJ doesn't think it is a good business move, they won't go ahead with it. The only thing Mariah can do is having her music ready and on point. The way things are, I don't put my hopes on any release date. Only if Mariah have at least a moderate hit like #Beautiful, this album will see the light of day this year. I'm worried because the album might actually turn out to be a gem, but with all these inconveniences, it might fall flat on the charts. People's attention span fluctuates about every minute now. I am still hoping for the best. They are looking for a hit, and they're going to get it even if she has to collaborate with any current pop star, mark my words. (Wednesday 19 March 2014; 20:54)

Songs that should have been singles (42,236) by John from USA Mariah Carey: I agree with the single choices here. But "Prisoner" and "You Need Me" come to mind. Emotions: "Til The End of Time" and "You're So Cold". Music Box: "Now That I Know". Merry Christmas: I wish they pushed her versions of "O Holy Night" and "Christmas Baby Please Come Home" more. Daydream: I pretty much agree with single choices, but I wonder how "I Am Free" would have done. Butterfly: This one's easy. "Breakdown" and "The Roof" (in the USA). #1s: Wish she promoted her version of "Do You Know When You're Going To" more. Rainbow: "TGIFY" killed this album. "X-Girlfriend" needed to be the second single. Great song for its time, still love it now. Glitter: "Loverboy" was the right first single, but "Last Night a DJ" or "All My Life" should've been next. Charmbracelet: Not many viable "singles" from this album. "I Only Wanted" did deserve a chance, and I'm glad they tried with "Bringin on the Heartbreak". TEOM: I agree with the single choices. E=MC2: My blood still boils to think about "Migrate" not being the follow-up to "TMB". That was her 19th number 1. "For The Record" would've been good too. Memoirs: Not many good "singles" after "Obsessed." I wish "It's a Wrap" with Mary J got released. I think it would've crossed over to Pop. (Wednesday 19 March 2014; 20:51)

Another delay? (42,235) by Ryan from U.S. Her album date has been taken off All Access. Said 5-6, now nothing. (Wednesday 19 March 2014; 19:02)

Andy, Breakdown (42,234) by B from USA That verse is my favorite part of the song. I think I've met my soulmate. (Wednesday 19 March 2014; 16:59)

Breakdown promotions (42,231) by andy from philippines Breakdown didn't get enough promotion since Mariah had a conflict with her label during that time due to her transition. I read in wiki that she really wanted to make the #1's album as the album with her most favorite and personal songs, not just her most commercially successful songs. She tried to include Breakdown, Underneath The Stars and The Roof, also Whenever You Call, but only Whenever You Call made the cut and the rest the label didn't allowed it or rejected it. (Wednesday 19 March 2014; 16:25)

Singles (42,230) by Bill from the UK On the main I've agreed with the singles the respective record companies chose to release. The only real regret I have is that Breakdown never got its time in the spotlight. It was by far and away one of her greatest compositions from all aspects (melody, lyrics, mood, the inclusion of Bone Thugs, the staccato singing style), and was really the backbone of the Butterfly album. That, and The Roof for similar reasons. I know they had limited releases around the world though. I remember hearing how The Roof was due as the third single from Butterfly in the UK, but was pulled as it wasn't felt it suited her UK audience. Explains the long gap until My All came out as a single. (Wednesday 19 March 2014; 16:06)

Re: Should have been the singles by KaizenOcean (42,229) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands Is it just me, or are most of these "should have been the singles" actually released as singles? (Wednesday 19 March 2014; 16:03)

Stephen / Edward (42,228) by Bill from the UK Stephen, I was at work and snuck in a sneaky check of the message board and literally lol'd myself half to death at you putting on TAOLG and then abruptly switching to Daydream. Absolutely hilarious, I could just picture you doing that and it's the sort of thing I'd do too haha. I forgot Without You as a favourite single cover. She looks absolutely gorgeous in that shot, and so sad. I get what you're saying Edward but it did make me laugh that for weeks everyone's been bad mouthing Mariah and giving her career advice (didn't realise so many of the posters here worked in the industry lol) and then as soon as somebody else does a war breaks out. (Wednesday 19 March 2014; 16:01)

Should have been the singles (42,227) by Loris from Italy Mariah Carey: Vision Of Love, Someday, Vanishing, I Don't Wanna Cry, All In Your Mind (the whistle register) Emotions: You're So Cold (would have been an amazing lead single), Can't Let Go, Emotions, If It's Over (very uplifting), Make It Happen Music Box: Dreamlover, Anytime You Need A Friend (they had to release it as the second single not the fourth, since its gospel influence is perfectly coherent with her previous albums), Hero, Without You, Music Box Merry Christmas: AIWFCIY, Miss You Most, Holy Night Daydream: Fantasy, One Sweet Day, Underneath The Stars, Always Be My Baby, Long Ago (would have highlight better the modern r&b components in the album) Butterfly: Honey, My all, The Roof (her best video of all time, lyrics are also superbe), Babydoll (utterly sensual), Breakdown, Butterfly Rainbow: Heartbreaker, How Much, Thank God I Found You, Crybaby, X-Girlfriend, Bliss (very Minnie Riperton-inspired astounding classic) Charmbracelet: Clown, Bringin' On The Heartbreak, Through The Rain, Yours The Emancipation Of Mimi: It's Like That, We Belong Together, Shake It Off, Circles (a must), Don't Forget About Us E=MC2: Migrate, Touch My Body, Cruise Control, For The Record Memoirs: H.A.T.E.U. (should have had a wintry clip), Obsessed New album: #Beautiful, The Art Of Letting Go (with revised lyrics) Above all, Slipping Away should have been included in the album and released as a single. Unforgivable mistake. (Wednesday 19 March 2014; 15:41)

B from USA (Breakdown) (42,226) by andy from philippines And the second verse of Breakdown is so painful and something that you can relate. "So what do you do when somebody you're devoted to suddenly just stops loving you and it seems they haven't got a clue of the pain that rejection is putting you through." Just a total heartbreak. Plus, her look in thee music video is classic, her hairdo is awesome too. (Wednesday 19 March 2014; 15:24)

Re (42,169) by Mimi L., fave album covers (42,225) by Terna from Nigeria I'm glad you liked it, you know someone had to say it, just as "a brief little reminder to help them remember". Sound familiar? Lol. (Wednesday 19 March 2014; 14:53)

Singles (42,223) by B from USA 1. Prisoner 2. So Cold 3. Just To Hold You Once Again 4. Long Ago / Melt Away 5. ExGirlfriend 6. Lead the way 7. The One (with resung vocals) 8. So Lonely / One & Only 9. Side Effects / I'm That Chick / Thanx 4 Nothin 10. Candy Bling / Standing O If any of these had been chosen as singles instead of some of the others, MC would have surpassed The Beatles. (Wednesday 19 March 2014; 14:38)

May 6th (42,222) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom Does anyone think that Mariah will release an album on May 6th? The longer she spends in the Bahamas, finishing the album (which she has been finishing since 2011), the more dubious I am getting. As much as I want her to release an album on May 6th, I'm not certain that Mariah will have everything that needs to have in place to push the album. Hopefully, she can release it on May 6th, irrespective of how well it does, finish her contract with IDJ, and get on with her career elsewhere. (Wednesday 19 March 2014; 11:16)

Special K (42,221) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom Oh no, you did not just go there, did you? Jokes, let's just agree to disagree and move on. You're right regarding it being Kelly's truth though, and not ours. Also, it would be interesting to hear what Mariah's truth on this situation may be. Personally, I think Kelly meant what she said in a negative way, otherwise you just wouldn't say it at all or you not phrase things in the way she did. But, oh well, moving on is not always easy for both parties. *Plays TAOLG and then realises how bad it is and switches to anything from Daydream.* Lol. (Wednesday 19 March 2014; 11:04)

Migrate or Standing O (42,220) by Lainsky from Philippines Somebody posted here that Migrate is timely for this season in music. I agree and also with Standing O, so I hope MC will release something like this. (Wednesday 19 March 2014; 10:41)

Covers (42,219) by lambily from Slovakia Best cover: Valentines / CTTA But I also love: Dreamlover (only the remix lettering version) Always be my baby (only the remix snake shirt version) Butterfly single (all versions) The roof Make it last Against all odds (Austrian version) Charmbracelet (plus tour edition) Through the rain (all) Boy I need you (all, especially pink psychedelic MARIAHRX2/MARIAHVP2) It's like that Say something (violet lettering version) You're mine I'm new here, but I read your posts for a while. (Wednesday 19 March 2014; 9:21)

Best/worst album covers and singles (42,218) by Darryle from USA Best album covers 1. Butterfly: She looks amazing and it's simple without being boring. 2. Mariah Carey: She looks so young and pretty. 3. Daydream: I love the black and white. I like how they put her on one side of the cover instead of the center. Worst album covers 1. Glitter: To much happening, the tiny shimmers and city in the background distract from Mariah. 2. Charmbracelet: This ones not bad but smile or frown whatever it is is sorta off putting she's not smiling but not frowning. 3. MOAIA: Her boob shadow is very distracting and I don't get the point of the three Mariah's. Best single covers 1. Dream Lover: I love her hair and the pose with her eyes closed makes it look so natural. 2. Through the rain: I also love her hair in this picture and the vine was a really nice touch because otherwise it would have been boring. 3. Vision of love: That pose is an iconic Mariah pose. Plus I really like the microphone. Worst single covers 1. Triumphant (get 'em): I don't like her hair. In fact I don't really like her hair when it's straight period. Also she looks way too tan and airbrushed. 2. #Beautiful: She looks fine in the picture, I just think it's really lazy to reuse a scene from the video as a cover. 3. Heartbreaker: The words look funny stretched across her boobs and her face makes her look like she's trying to hard to be sexy. (Wednesday 19 March 2014; 8:36)

Cover art (42,217) by Dani from USA My favorite is the "Butterfly" cover, and my least favorite would have to be the "Charmbracelet" cover. On another note, does anyone know what's become of the song "Mesmerized" that Mariah recorded for the movie The Paperboy? Sometimes I wish Mariah would release little 15 or 30 second teasers of songs she's recording, just to keep us at the edge of our seats. That'd probably become an issue with the label, but one can still hope. (Wednesday 19 March 2014; 8:00)

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