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New album (39,944) by Lainsky from Philippines I am just wondering and I really don't get it why MC and IDJ just release an album like what she did in 2005 and instead kept releasing singles that are seems nowhere to go. If TAOLG is a new album and really intended for the die hard fans and lambs like me, then why not just release it so people's waiting time for this album will be over? Whether it will sell tremendously or will flop buy her or the music industry's standard, then so be it! The intention for the album release is for her fans. If it will capture the old fans and the new ones then good. If not, that's okay! She has nothing to prove anyway and nobody stays on top forever in any kind of industry. Just maintaining the image and identity and leaving a legacy and I believe MC has achieved that. I hope IDJ and MC will read this and stop teasing us, her fans and people with these singles or songs. I am not mad or anything, just clueless about what our girl wants to do with her music. (Friday 22 November 2013; 10:13)

Really? (39,943) by Lyric from USA I find it truly amusing that some folks think Minaj is on Mariah's mind to the point where she pens a song about her. I suppose Minaj's things are at Mariah's house, which is why it'd be set outside the kitchen window? Please give Mariah more credit than that. Minaj is not relevant enough to the point where she infiltrate Mariah's music. (Friday 22 November 2013; 7:44)

Carly Gemelle from USA (39,942) by Gilbert from USA I thought the same thing Carly. Not too long ago after listening to the songs quite a few times then I thought this song may have to be about Nicki. (Friday 22 November 2013; 0:49)

It's not about Ms. Minaj (39,941) by CHAZ from USA Sorry Carly, it's not about Ms. Minaj. How do you explain, "Gotta lay all your possessions outside the kitchen window right now," and "I hope you don't get no ideas about reuniting baby." Don't think MC would call her "baby". Clearly not. (Friday 22 November 2013; 0:36)

Don't think is about NM (39,940) by Marcel from Montréal, Canada I mean trifling is just someone worthless your time, can be a b**ch or anything, but is not mostly a girl's word. And what about the liabilities? I don't think the whole phrase can be applied to NM. If she says is telling what she's been through this last three years, then it must be about someone she believes betrayed her, someone who promised something and it wasn't true. I don't know, but I don't think NM would be worth a song. What I have noticed is how MC doesn't likes at all to be tied to Walter Afanasieff, she even wrote that she composed and produced AIWFC all in capitals like trying to convince people that it was all hers and then goes on to talk about where are you Christmas and then she mentions the incredible talented producer she co-wrote the song with. That is bizarre and rude at the same time. And worst after all of the positive things Walter has always said about her. Anyway, I thought lyrics on TAOLG would be deep and well crafted but they weren't. Still a nice track though. (Friday 22 November 2013; 0:12)

TAOLG (39,939) by TJ from Norway Hi! It's not popular at all on Spotify. I am not the biggest fan of the beginning of the song, but it gets better toward the end. Well, it's free on Spotify, good quality. Stream it! (Thursday 21 November 2013; 22:24)

"The art of letting go" is about Nicki, and American Idol is not a love song (39,938) by Me. I am Carly from USA I am totally convinced that "The art of letting go" is about Nicki. Somebody you used to know (Nicki) is no longer in your dominion (on Idol), trifflin (woman say this about another woman, usually not lovers). The song is not a love song, and Mariah said she was having a bad day in a bad mood and it was very real, but that she wrote it in a way that everybody could relate to (to appear to be about a partner). (Thursday 21 November 2013; 17:39)

Latest live performances (39,937) by Carol from Spain Regarding Mimi's latest performances, BET was mostly lipped due to a last minute change, you can look for the explanation given by the president of BET when the network celebrated its anniversary. I don't consider that much of a big deal, actually. Mariah can lip TV performances as much as she wants, that doesn't make her imperfect, makes her human. Live above it, people. Good Morning America: The whole thing was live, with imperfections at 8 am, she still did it. It was dubbed later on for the re-run of the show, but I believe that it was the best live performance of WBT. everyone remembers that one, forget the rest. Queen right there. HOT97 Summer Jam was completly live, improvised but live. Nothing to say. AI Performance, what was wrong with that? Nothing, live but poorly edited by AI people. Some heads should roll with that one. Jimmy Fallon was completly priceless: runs, high notes, chest and head voice. The one and only bad ass chick MC. Australia Tour de Force was completly unpredictable and the proof that the world still needs a Mariah Carey tour. Mariah has it, Mariah can do it. let her be herself in her music. Don't criticize so much. (Thursday 21 November 2013; 15:35)

New material is a gift (39,936) by Tony from Ireland I'm reading some of the comments here and I'm not sure how to feel about it. Maybe I am listening to a different song or to a different artist, because I don't see flaws on TAOLG, and it is exactly what I was waiting for. And of course fans are comparing her material, she has a style and that's why most of us fell in love with her in the first place. It doesn't matter that after her pop era was coming the hip hop, and even Glitter was for me a masterpiece and still I'm playing the record at home, and I'm more that exited about her releasing new music, it doesn't matter if is a Christmas album as long as she brings something new, I will be in heaven. (Thursday 21 November 2013; 15:03)

TAOLG (39,935) by Alejandro Cole from Colombia I love it, Mariah is no longer making number one songs, she is just making what other artists refuse to do, and that is true music. She took the time to release a song for me, for you for all the lambs, a song that would have no much impact but definetly will mean the world for me as a lamb, so she is smart, she is making happy the people who really care for her and will mantein her career and guarantee longevity. Enjoy this song and make it part of your life, that was the main reason of this recording in the first place. By the way, this web site rocks! So #pow. (Thursday 21 November 2013; 14:55)

Jaker20 (39,934) by Tory from Australia Umm no it wasn't clear, in your second message yes it was, but the first was not. Sorry I couldn't read your mind lol. Forget Idol, what about her BET performance? That was the worst reception to a Mariah performance in years. She had an even bigger opportunity to sing #Beautiful and she lipped it. Not only that, she was absent for 75% of the performance lol. Imagine the media's response if she lipped the entire song, forget about #Beautiful failing, that would be her career dead and buried six feet under. TAOLG's success (or lack thereof) has nothing to do with #Beautiful, fact of the matter is that this album is taking too long to complete. It would be fine if she wouldn't keep mentioning it on FB and Twitter since last year. If she was quiet about it and had her singles lined up with a definitive release schedule, the reception would be better. There were too much breaks inbetween her recent singles, and considering how short the public's attention span is to music now, people aren't caring for her new music. Idol was a wasted opportunity not because of the performance, but for her relevance in the public eye in regards to her new album. No shade. (Thursday 21 November 2013; 13:50)

Alicia Keys (39,933) by Orkun from The Netherlands Just a wild guess, but TAOLG suits Alicia Keys better and I feel like they actually collaborated on this song and a duet will follow as a remix version. I don't understand the Vision Of Love comparison, other than having no chorus. I do believe she does need to prove herself actually. Not as a vocalist, but as a songwriter. If this is the direction of the album, it's not good. I don't think she should sing jazz at all. She should do pop and remix it with r&b, not hip hop. To me, it all sounds so uninspired. If they are clever, they do not shoot a video. Ariana Grande is recording now with Babyface and Walter Affanasieff. I'm a gamer. But Mariah isn't. My heart breaks to see this. The critics are always positive about her songs, yet the songs fail. Either the critics are corrupt, or they don't know music, which I doubt. Stevie Wonder listened to the song, yes. But we never got to hear if he liked it. I'm just blowing off steam. These eras are messed up. (Thursday 21 November 2013; 11:40)

Relax, will you ? (39,932) by Carol from Spain Discussions over stupid stuff. This is why I don't go to forums much: fans argue about the chart topping stuff istead of music content. She delivered a powerful son, a beuatiful song, can't you just enjoy it and be gone with it? It's enough when some pages discuss the fact TAOLG didn't get airplay this week, forgetting the song was never released to the radios (or chosing to ignore it). Just don't demand too much of Mariah, i think she earned the benefit of the doubt. Personally, I'm just glad she is still eager to make and deliever music, not following trends. For me, that's enough reason to be happy. Relax, will you? (Thursday 21 November 2013; 11:09)

By Tory (39,931) by jaker20 from US Yes it was, I'm sorry you didn't undestand it. And even if it wasn't clear then, I made it clear in my next message. She should have sang Beautiful only instead of wasting time on medleys. It is one of her last big stage performance and it's a wasted opportunity. Worse, the medley/performance was poorly received and that's not good for the new single. Beautiful is still being played, but I believe if the promo had been better, it would have done much much better because it's a great song, and in effect, the anticipation for this next single TAOLG would have been higher. The fact that the song isn't impacting at all shows lack of excitement. In entertainment, you're only as good as your last work. (Thursday 21 November 2013; 7:07)

Re: Zachary (39,930) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway This is awfull news, Zachary. I once was in Croatia, and I felt on my body how they treated gay people, they hardly got any hotel rooms. Move to Norway is my advise, here gay people can marry in church. I don't know if Mariah has the time to focus on gay rights in Croatia, but it's worth the try, good luck. (Thursday 21 November 2013; 6:09)

Another person bites the dust (39,929) by Stacey from USA Some will never learn. We are all just expressing opinions, not claiming to be experts. So stop trying to shut down good entertaining discussions simply because you don't agree with the thoughts being shared. Peace. (Thursday 21 November 2013; 5:27)

Joyce and Badr (39,928) by Marcel from Montréal, Canada I mostly agree on your points. I guess there's something wrong going on because when you are MC you'd expect a lot of big management companies trying to get your contract. Back in Tommy's days and TEOM, management was on top and she followed guidance. Success. We all might remember that with TEOM LA Reid took a Tommy role pushing the album release for almost a year and being in the studio with MC checking every song/note recorded until he was satisfied. Now TAOLG is an ok track and I like that she's finally singing once again, but the track lacks on melody, production and those lyrics. When she said that it was about all she's been going through the last 3 years I was like cool, but phrases are random, making not proper use of the language and using her own nickname within the song is weird. Her voice sounds better than lately yes, but it still sounds husky, raspy, nasal while mostly speaking. At the end it sounds nice but it's so enhanced like on Angels Cry. IMO she needs to tone down the diva behaviour that only lambs seem to enjoy and as someone said yesterday have an image change, nothing drastic but something new, maybe going back to the brown hair with a nice hairdo and not the scouring pad hair look. Back on TAOLG, first I thought was yet another "f**k you Tommy" song but then I was like if she said it's based on her last 3 years would it be Walter? No, he didn't plan reunions, it was Randy's idea so might it be Nick related? That radio interview was intriguing. (Thursday 21 November 2013; 3:33)

Contact email (39,927) by Zachary from Croatia I need some help guys. Is there an e-mail that I could write to Mariah's team or management or something similar? We are having a referendum here in Croatia about making a law that marriage between man and woman is only accepted to the people. They want to dismiss gay people or single parents and make them unsuitable environment to raise children, which is totally unacceptable to us. There is a big movement on Facebook and other media that contains a word "PROTIV", which means "against" on everyone's profile picture on Facebook or even on public places. So, my intention is to maybe contact them and ask them will they put the word PROTIV on Mariah's Facebook page so that the movement gets a more stronger impact. (Thursday 21 November 2013; 1:42)

Re: jaker20 (39,926) by Tory from Australia Actually your message wasn't clear, you made it sound like she only sang a medley of previous hits and didn't include #Beautiful. It's over and done with either way, so who cares? #Beautiful still regularly plays on the radio, people haven't forgotten about it and still like it. (Thursday 21 November 2013; 1:36)

Re: R&B Junkie (39,925) by Billy from Greece Preach fellow PhD student! (Thursday 21 November 2013; 0:30)

The magic of internet (39,924) by R&B Junkie from Poland When it comes to the world wide web, everyone seems to be a management specialist, musician, songwriter, vocal coach, dress stylist, and whatever you all wanna be. So the question is: Are you all really that excellent in everyday life and have you ever achieved something more than just little things (that no one knows)? Now the most shocking part of this messageboard was the one where somebody called TAOLG a flop single. First of all, it is not the regular single (so far), they call it "a song", not "a single". And come on, a true music lover would be glad and grateful for any newly released song. Ask fans of The Beatles or (sorry, there's no bad intentions in it) Whitney Houston, what they would prefer: a song or nothing. We've been given with the song, that's what we should love Mariah for, chart statistics and ways of promotion should not matter. And I have the feeling that most of you forgot that she's not in her 20's anymore, she's married and has children. She's not going to be the best selling pop star for another decade, just because of one reason: it takes time. And for me, the most important thing is that an artist never stop being an artist, it doesn't matter if your album sales are 20,000 or 20,000,000, because it's in your soul. No doubt Mariah has it. (Wednesday 20 November 2013; 21:38)

[...] (39,923) by Carlos Jaramillo from USA So, I was thinking guys, those of us whom "really" know Mariah Carey and her work antics know that before she releases a final product, she records many songs, so she has her favorites to select from and ultimately come up with an album. My point, I know she had to have been doing this always. This must be a practice she started in her early years. I did some research and found that Tommy the dictator is owner of many, many completed Mariah Carey unreleased songs. She has to have many of them as well. Imagine if she released these songs. Even if only as a media gimmick to sell individually; release them little by little as she did with the 5 covers of #Beautiful. She can take the vocals and update the music if she just feels they may be dated. Even though we always see this "diva", big personality, persona, I can assure you that she doesn't quite "grasp" the magnitude of the quality, perfection, unexplainable dynamics and unequivocal intricacies of her vocals. Weather you like MC or not, there is no denying that in our lifetime, we will never hear a voice that is even similar to the real MC. We have to relive the experience of hearing new music, but with the vocal prowess that was unleashed during her vocal peak. [...] If enough of us beg and plead, we can have the "real" MC back. I'm sure there are albums worth of flawless MC we can hear. That album would sell [...]. All the [...] would purchase this album. (Wednesday 20 November 2013; 19:38)

Facts before Fiction/ commercial release vs. release (39,921) by nikki from usa The only person who promoted TAOLG was Mariah. She never mentioned a radio release, music video, or any promotion afterward. Any column that talked about this only repeated what was written on MC's personal websites, there was no new information. Mariah did a few mini interviews that centralized around her "fans" hearing this and her Q&A upon release, she's releasing it on Facebook for "the fans" to hear, she was on Jimmy Fallon to see the fans reactions to this song. She released it and allowed download. The same thing with Triumphant. It wasn't released to radio either. People are going ahead as if this is the next "commercial" single. MC never backed that. Now take Beautiful. There was a media listen 2 weeks before release and it was reviewed, it was on radio for a full day before they played it at will. The next day it was played at will and allowed for download. We already knew about the video which was released at the end of the week. She went out and promoted it, recreated different versions, along with music videos, and continued to sing it. That's a commercial release. This was not. Music Box was also a song named for an album, it may have been one of Mariah's favorites, but back then a company's not going to release it if it's not going to be a hit on radio. She'd never be able to share it with the fans back then like she can now. The next facts are: there's no news of promoting this further, Mariah will be on Micheal Buble's Christmas Special, Nick Cannon said that after this song, Mariah has something else coming up. If this is a "commercial single", why would she have something else ready for release? Mariah may love this song and want to have a moment with her fans, but it doesn't mean she thinks this will be a radio hit. However, according to the people she worked with and MC's own comments on this album, she does believe she has some great hits on her album. The fact that we don't have an album release date yet, only goes to show this is not her next commercial single. Mariah's crazy like a fox. She's clearly gearing up for Christmas and may want to promote her hit album like she does almost every year now. That may be the new "jump off" to start promoting a commercial single after the new year, fresh off the Christmas high. That's one advantage Mariah has over her competition. Every year her Christmas material comes out and gets played, she can be seen, promote old favorites, before promoting her new work. Something that will do well on radio, and be promoted beforehand. When it's a true commercial release, you'll know. There will be real buzz, real media interaction, and not just repeating what she has written on her websites. (Wednesday 20 November 2013; 17:41)

Lyric / a song for lambs (39,920) by Lamb_O_Chop from Australia Lyric, it's not considered a real single because it wasn't put up for radio adds, nor is there any plans for a video as of yet. So how are non lambs or the general public supposed to hear and appreciate the song if they haven't put it on the radio? Mariah stated that this song was for the lambs that wanted to just hear a raw ballad with piano and vocals, and she said it before it tumbled down iTunes. So no I don't believe it's a cop out and yes I believe this was just something to tie us over until she's ready to put the new official single and album out. She's not as out of touch as something people claim or want her to be. I know she will bring that fire like she always do when she's ready to chart. As for people complaining about the lyrics and vocals on the song, I'm sure the "redundancy" that people keep referring to was intentional and it makes perfect sense really. So I don't get why people are bothered. I also can't see how anyone can complain about the vocals, because they are outstanding, and it's supposed to sound raw, it's a raw ballad. I actually love the slight rasp in the first line, it adds that raw soul feeling and sounds perfect her voice is as smooth as butter throughout the rest of the song, so I just don't get why some of you would trash the song. As for me, other's opinion or iTunes positions doesn't matter to me, I still think it's a brilliant piece of work and nobody's touching MC. (Wednesday 20 November 2013; 17:12)

Ms. Giselle (39,919) by jaker20 from US I completely agree about #Beautiful. The problem wasn't the song. The song is great, loved by non-fans and got great reviews. The problem was the promo. So this new song is destined to be another Triumphant/Almost Home if she's not on the promo rounds. She didn't sing #Beautiful on many live shows, you know like really live without all the question marks that it's really live? You know like what she did with Fallon. You know, like really strong performance like she really meant it. To be honest I'm not feeling her passion with music anymore. It's more about just being out and about, then let the song be, then go home and take care of the babies. Yeah, I'm sure that's what life really is about no question there. But that just don't cut it these days if you're a pro. Like any other pro in any profession. Madonna's last single made the top 10 and MDNA topped the charts, that's because she worked her behind off on the carrier single, there was hype, and like another poster said, there was the machine behind it. MC is just kind of whatever lately. (Wednesday 20 November 2013; 15:25)

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