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Shout out to Robert-Anthony / the Lambily is the best (100,259) by Nicky from Jasmine's Sofa I just wanted to send a huge thank you to Robert-Anthony for going out and getting me a copy of the #1s vinyl and shipping it to me. I just recieved it in the mail today. Words aren't enough to express my gratitude and appreciation. I shouldn't be surprised though, the kindness of his personality pokes through many of his posts and I always enjoy reading his takes on MC and the music. The true lambily is really something special. I think this messageboard really brings out the community aspect of being a lamb and I'm so appreciate of that. Anyway, I just wanted share word of this act of kindness. This gesture really goes a long way for me. (Tuesday 10 May 2022; 22:33)

Re: Dreamlover appreciation (100,257) (100,258) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway I agree, I think Dreamlover is one of Mariah's best songs, and I get happy everytime I listen to it. But it's up to the general public if a song turns into a classic or not. Whether a song becomes a classic or not, is no exact science, some songs do turn into a classic, some don't. I think it's better to just appreciate that Fantasy, ABMB, Hero, Without You and AIWFCIY have become classics, that is no easy feat for any aetist. (Tuesday 10 May 2022; 09:12)

Dreamlover appreciation (100,257) by jaker20 from US Why is this masterpiece not getting classic treatment like Fantasy, Without You, and many others. Even Breakdown has become more of a classic than Dreamlover which went to number 1 and is one of Mariah's best songs ever. Maybe it needs a tiktok mashup or remix or be featured in a movie soundtrack? It seems Mariah herself also doesn't promote it as much. What's the tea? Does she hate the song like Migrate? (Monday 9 May 2022; 21:24)

Re: Why does the Billboard article credit Mariah on BE? (100,253) (100,256) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway I find it utterly untrue that Billboard has been against Mariah. What I have experienced, is that Billboard is the only music news outlet that actually praises Mariah's success, but that is maybe just my opinion. (Monday 9 May 2022; 14:21)

Re: Why does the Billboard article credit Mariah on BE? (100,253) (100,255) by Bill from the UK She's literally the most awarded artist by Billboard. They love her. (Monday 9 May 2022; 13:09)

Re: Why does the Billboard article credit Mariah on BE? (100,253) (100,254) by Bobby A from United States JC, I am seriously thinking about moving back to DFW next year. After 3 years back in the ATL, I miss Oaklawn and Deep Ellum. There's so much more to do in DFW. (Monday 9 May 2022; 11:50)

Re: Why does the Billboard article credit Mariah on BE? (100,252) (100,253) by JC from USA Billboard has actually always been against Mariah. Remember when she was the only female pop artist to have two songs debut at #1 before they changed the rules so AirPlay was more impactful? Non commercial releases were not even chart-able then. I hope the BBMA performance does bolster streams and, in turn, overtake the original, but it's nice to actually hear her out. Today, I heard the original Fantasy at JRs and the BBE Remix at Roundup and Mr. Misster here in Dallas. Dallas lambs, unite. (Monday 9 May 2022; 06:49)

Re: Why does the Billboard article credit Mariah on BE? (100,251) (100,252) by jaker20 from US I think we all know the rules. But as I pointed out, the recent Billboard article seems to be crediting Mariah. Why they wrote it that way, I don't know. That said, yes the 50/50 rules makes sense. But when another artists who sampled a song, is the same who did a remix, both of which is helping the "original" (Latto's version) to chart higher. I don't know if this has happened before. BE already stalled outside of the top 10 a month ago until the remix was released. But BE is giving Fantasy a new audience too, so I'm not totally complaining. (Sunday 8 May 2022; 02:21)

Re: Why does the Billboard article credit Mariah on BE? (100,249) (100,251) by Bill from the UK We need to be careful here when talking about Big Energy. The original version of the song sampled Genius of Love, not Fantasy. Just in the same way that Fantasy itself sampled Genius of Love. The rules seem to be quite clear that Mariah would only be credited if airplay/sales exceed that of the original which, in the US at least, appears to have not happened (yet). I believe she is credited in the UK as it is the remix that features Mariah which is currently receiving airplay and being purchased, enabling it to chart. (Saturday 7 May 2022; 17:36)

Fallen Angel by Ella Mai (100,250) by Bobby A from United States Kirk Franklin and his choir did the outro on Ella Mai's Fallen Angel. It is exactly the same melody and harmonies as on Fall In Love At Christmas. The similarities are unreal. MC is always duplicated by other artists. The odd thing is that Kirk Franklin doesn't receive songwriter credit like he did on Fall In Love At Christmas. Can someone post the Fallen Angel outro for me at 3:18 where it begins? (Saturday 7 May 2022; 13:38)

Re: Why does the Billboard article credit Mariah on BE? (100,245) (100,249) by T from USA Mariah should totally be credited on BER. Her original is so instrumental in the asking of the song in the first place, plus the fact that the remix is the reason imo that it even went top 5 at all, seeing how the sales skyrocketed after the remix came out. Mariah always seems to have to work overtime to allow people to see her genius. (Saturday 7 May 2022; 04:26)

Re: Ironic (100,244) (100,248) by T from USA Thanks Matty. I only want the best for MC. Always and forever. (Saturday 7 May 2022; 04:21)

Re: Ironic (100,244) (100,247) by Lady B from USA That's not what the college student said. She didn't question why she wasn't credit, she wondered if she wrote it at all. Nice through, though. (Saturday 7 May 2022; 02:04)

Re: Ironic (100,244) (100,246) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands It's not about the "missing" credits, fans get annoyed because T wrote five (!) posts about the same subject. So most of us are thinking: "Please move on!" (Saturday 7 May 2022; 00:40)

Why does the Billboard article credit Mariah on BE? (100,245) by jaker20 from US They are confusing and misleading. At least UK charts credit Mariah. (Saturday 7 May 2022; 00:25)

Ironic (100,244) by Matty from Vancouver Canada This whole writing credit convo is beyond ironic. The lambs (as a collective) get so frustrated that Mariah is always seen as a singer in the vain of Celine and Whitney and never recognized first as a songwriter, but when a Lamb is disappointed that Mariah isn't being credited as a songwriter, on a major platform, on a signature song of hers, everyone is telling them to move on and that it's not important. Is it no wonder the Songwriters Hall of fame took so long to acknowledge MC? (Friday 6 May 2022; 23:32)

Re: Did Mariah actually write The Roof (100,240) (100,243) by Bill from the UK If it really is affecting you so much then send a note to the account to make them aware, if you haven't already. (Thursday 5 May 2022; 19:44)

Re: Did Mariah actually write The Roof (100,240) (100,242) by Lady B from USA Shouldn't you be focused on finals, T? (Thursday 5 May 2022; 17:22)

Re: Did Mariah actually write The Roof (100,240) (100,241) by Steven Berning from USA Ugh. Can you get more annoying? (Thursday 5 May 2022; 08:18)

Re: Did Mariah actually write The Roof (100,238) (100,240) by T from USA It was a serious question. I always thought she wrote [...]. I was just wondering why on her official YouTube channel which she approves I'm assuming, every song lists her as a writer. Except [...]. And it's not an oversight as there is about six other names under lyric writers. Just not hers. (Wednesday 4 May 2022; 03:27)

Article: Debbie Gibson fangirls over Mariah Carey (100,239) by MusicfanJ from Germany That's a nice story. 80ies pop is always fun, just feel-good music. I recently discovered "the Midnight" and I thought Mariah could do one song whith synthi-pop beats. ("Blinding Lights" by the Weekend was cool.) Of course Jazz is still my dream genre for Mariah. But one feel-good song would be nice. Luckily we have Glitter with the 80ies sound. She was so ahead of the time. (Tuesday 3 May 2022; 16:27)

Re: Did Mariah actually write The Roof (100,222) (100,238) by Steve from USA Is this even a serious question or are you trolling? Even the most casual Mariah fan knows that she writes all her own lyrics, and collaborates on the music. She of course wrote The Roof, and produced it with Trackmasters. She always gives writing credits to the songs she samples, so there are other songwriters on there. (Tuesday 3 May 2022; 14:40)

Book excerpt (100,237) by RibbonB from USA This is from a new book Shine Bright, about black women in popular music, by Danyel Smith former Vibe editor. This is an excerpt from the chapter on Mariah. Skip to the last few paragraphs of this long article. Gives some interesting tidbits and it seems that Motorola liked to bug Mimi for sport. (Sunday 1 May 2022; 20:50)

Re: I Don't and James Packer (100,233) (100,236) by Capri_ from China The whole Stella era is totally a mess, except the SSFT tour. (Sunday 1 May 2022; 03:48)

Re: Did Mariah actually write The Roof (100,226) (100,235) by RibbonB from USA I've seen it credited to lyrics Mariah and the Track Masters. Three lyricists and five total credited for the music, which includes two Mob Deep writers. (Sunday 1 May 2022; 03:16)

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