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Hero and Your Girl (93,583) by Randy from USA
I actually liked both performances and it made me less embarrassed as a very public fan. And did you notice how understated her clothes, hair and make up was (except the damn fan still blowing on Hero, I can't win). Maybe I was too harsh on the Delusional Fans. You know when I was angry for them with the excuses: her corset was too tight, a casket was in front of her, it was too hot, it was too cold, she has nodules, her mic was too low, her background singer was too loud, her earpiece monitor wasn't working, she just got a divorce, she didn't want to upstage the queen of soul, her humidifiers weren't working, she didn't get eight hours sleep, it's too early in the morning to sing, they were pumping air in at the fresh air benefit last night. What this proves is an environment 100% controlled by Mariah and she can do as many takes as she likes, she can put together a rather decent performance. The irony in this was when I said let's call Mariah a studio singer, someone said that wasn't fair. Things that make you go hmmmmmm. It's good to be right.
(Saturday 11 April 2020; 19:11)
Re: Hero (93,580) (93,582) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
It's better than many performances yes but I just watched it again and won't rewatch it. I watch things to be entertained not feel uncomfortable. If I feel uncomfortable, what do the general public feel?

I do not understand why Mariah can no longer read from an autocue without nervously contorting her body into different poses every half second and why she speaks like she's about to vomit from nervousness. I don't understand why she is engineering vocals to the easiest song to sing especially given it's prerecorded - by her - in her own home. Can't she sing it? I don't know where these weird hand movements have come from. She used to, back in the day, throw her arms around with the big notes, point up with a high one, point down with a low one and it all felt seamless, fluid and necessary. Those there hand movements match the body convulsions in awkwardness. You're trying to listen to the song and your eyes keep getting drawn to her doing a finger-and-thumb asshole gesture to the camera.

Honestly, ABMB was really good. This was not. This was not what somebody of her stature, experience and calibre should be putting out. This should have been run past a manager who has the balls to say "Mariah, nope. This is not going out. This is not good enough."
(Saturday 11 April 2020; 17:28)
Re: Article: Mariah Carey on 2005's iconic "The Emancipation of Mimi" (93,579) (93,581) by Bill from the UK
And by "was knocking", I meant "wasn't knocking". What a world.
(Saturday 11 April 2020; 15:48)
Re: Hero (93,575) (93,580) by Bill from the UK
Well, it's no Thanksgiving or Daydream tour performance (specifically the London performance, of which I was an attendee), but it's an awful lot better than some of the ropey performances she's done recently on tours. Also, Licia, yes to Your Girl. Great song and her snippet of that was also good. I remember when I got TEOM I played Your Girl continuously, I was in love with it. Then I discovered the subtle greatness of To The Floor, and that became my fave.
(Saturday 11 April 2020; 14:40)
Re: Article: Mariah Carey on 2005's iconic "The Emancipation of Mimi" (93,578) (93,579) by Bill from the UK
I was knocking the sequencing of the album, more the fact that so many people on here proclaimed Caution to be a "cohesive body of work" that it became somewhat of a joke phrase, only for Mariah to then use it herself in that statement.

I think the album flows perfectly. As for the placement of Don't Forget About Us, I'd have it as the penultimate track, before Fly Like a Bird. That way, DFAU and WBT sort of bookend the album.
(Saturday 11 April 2020; 14:12)
Re: Article: Mariah Carey on 2005's iconic "The Emancipation of Mimi" (93,574) (93,578) by Special K from USA
No. Mimi's career was in the toilet. I think they took the sequencing of the album very seriously and spent alot of time on it. To beging the album with ILT and end it with FLAB was perfection.
(Saturday 11 April 2020; 13:39)
Article: Mariah Carey on 2005's iconic "The Emancipation of Mimi" (93,577) by Cassius from Brazil
I didn't quite laugh, Bill. I do the same thing with my playlists. I think the flow of an album is essential.
(Saturday 11 April 2020; 13:03)
Emancipation of Mimi (93,576) by Joe from United Kingdom
Hi everyone so in honour of TEOM anniversary I'm looking at the sequencing of the tracks again and I can't decide where I would put DFAU (I don't care for the other bonus tracks). Where would you place DFAU in the original track listing?
(Saturday 11 April 2020; 12:26)
Re: Hero (93,568) (93,575) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
I had to just rewatch it as it seems I saw something completely different from everyone else. The vocal is good. But it definitely appears engineered and dubbed in several places (engineering is evident as strings have been added in, which is completely unnecessary). Can someone convince me this is not true and that is one deceit too far, in my opinion. And badly executed.

Hero is supposed to be a love song to individual strength, inspiring and motivating. But watching Mariah sing it here is really quite stressful. She looks uncomfortable and those hands need to stop moving so much. Sorry, buddy, but I found the whole thing awkward. But then, I would, wouldn't I? I think my analysis is fair, however.
(Saturday 11 April 2020; 12:16)
Article: Mariah Carey on 2005's iconic "The Emancipation of Mimi" (93,574) by Bill from the UK
"We spent a long time working on the sequence for the album - listening to it and just really putting it together as a body of work, as a cohesive piece of music that almost feels like it was one song."

Anyone else laugh out loud when reading this statement?
(Saturday 11 April 2020; 11:03)
Re: Hero (93,567) (93,573) by Licia from USA
I agree there were a few choppy moments, but for the most part she did good and I appreciate the effort. I'll take this over that He's Got The Whole World in His Hands challenge any day. Sorry she'll never live that one down for me. Lol.

Btw: I thoroughly enjoyed that Your Girl snippet. That's one of my favorite songs from TEOM. It was nice to hear something other than WBT from that album.
(Saturday 11 April 2020; 10:32)
Re: Hero (93,568) (93,572) by Aliya from Canada
I loved this performance. It was so raw and real. I honestly think that Mariah should do more of these performances in the studio and show us. I love it. I think she feels comfortable and can hear herself in this kind of private setting. Overall, she hit some great notes and I was impressed.
(Saturday 11 April 2020; 03:33)
James Poyser commentary (93,571) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
I have to say I really enjoyed his commentary about creating with Mariah. I also appreciated his respect for her, and her talent. Hopefully they work together sometime in the future.
(Saturday 11 April 2020; 03:30)
James Poyser commentary (93,570) by Billy from Greece
Great info on their creative process. While people long for Walter, I'd rather see her do more stuff with James.
(Saturday 11 April 2020; 02:37)
Hero (93,569) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
This is yet another brilliant performance that made love Mariah even more. I love the confidence, the delicacy, the control, and power that this performance displayed. Bravo Mariah, thank you for giving us this moment it is definitely needed during these uncertain times.
(Saturday 11 April 2020; 00:44)
Re: Hero (93,563) (93,568) by Tevin from USA
Well Andrew, looks like this is another performance for you to WhatsApp your friends. Mariah did great.
(Saturday 11 April 2020; 00:27)
Re: Hero (93,563) (93,567) by Special K from USA
Hmmm, a little choppy to me but hey, I appreciate the fact that Mariah is singing live and looks great.
(Saturday 11 April 2020; 00:19)
Discovering Mariah's music (93,566) by Malcolm from Asia
Do you miss the time when you were just discovering Mariah's catalog one by one? It's really a moment when you go back thinking those times.
(Saturday 11 April 2020; 00:08)
Re: Hero (93,563) (93,565) by Bill from the UK
Agree, really good. Mariah seems so much at ease and much more confident at home in her studio than on stage with a malfunctioning bejewelled ear piece. She should totally do some sort of indoor concert, she hasn't sounded this great in years. It's the debut's 30th soon. Please Mariah, drop something out of this world for us. The demo tape. I pray.
(Friday 10 April 2020; 23:54)
Re: Hero (93,563) (93,564) by Andrew from the United Kingdom
Superb home performance? Maybe the original was. But with the audio over-dubbed and engineered to within an inch of its life, we'll never know.

That "performance" is shockingly awkward and bad. Mariah, you need a strong manager who knows how to say no to you.
(Friday 10 April 2020; 23:53)
Hero (93,563) by Will from England
Another superb home performance. The vocals, the clarity, the tone, all present. Can't wait to watch the vocal teachers/reactors on YouTube watch this.
(Friday 10 April 2020; 23:21)
Re: Favorite non-successful song (93,556) (93,562) by Bill from the UK
By Randy, I meant Edward, sorry.
(Friday 10 April 2020; 22:30)
Re: A passing observation (93,558) (93,561) by Bill from the UK
What's annoying about those videos is that all they do is have "E5" and "G2" flash up on the screen for like a nano second when one of her "eh" notes is yelled higher than normal. But yes, the videos should be titled "Mariah has still got it" or similar as you're completely right with how damaging it is to her reputation.
(Friday 10 April 2020; 22:30)
Re: Favorite non-successful song (93,556) (93,560) by Tijl from Belgium
Didn't Mariah already receive the backlash from Columbia/Tommy Mottola at the time? I remember that in Belgium only "Honey" and "My All" being promoted yet performing well. The other singles I discovered via MTV, which was the UK version for our region. I remember very well the interview special with Tabitha on the yacht and the party with P. Daddy.
(Friday 10 April 2020; 20:12)
Re: Favorite non-successful song (93,545) (93,559) by Dennis from Miami, FL
I remember when Butterfly was sent to radio Elton John has occupied the top spot for 14 weeks with his Princess Diana tribute that became the most successful single at that time. So probably there was no chance for Butterfly to become a #1.
(Friday 10 April 2020; 19:06)

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