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Re: New release (83,593) (83,597) by Andrew from UK Fake track lists haha. Eddie, step up. Time for some fun. (Tuesday 4 September 2018; 20:46)

Re: Instagram The Roof (83,595) (83,596) by RibbonB from USA No, but do we know who call the singers were besides Trey and Maryann? It was very cool to see Nick's mom hanging out backstage with Mariah and singers. (Tuesday 4 September 2018; 20:06)

Instagram The Roof (83,595) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada Anyone know how to save an Instagram story? It’s so rare to hear any part of The Roof. Thanks. (Tuesday 4 September 2018; 18:42)

Article: All the tracks on Mariah Carey's Music Box ranked (83,594) by Betty from Canada Music Box is my favorite from this album and was indeed one of my wedding songs. (Tuesday 4 September 2018; 18:01)

Re: New release (83,590) (83,593) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands Great. So that means it's time for the fake track-lists. (Tuesday 4 September 2018; 17:51)

Re: She should've paid attention to us (83,585) (83,592) by Andrew from UK You miss the point, somewhat. That Mariah felt in a relationship she didn't want to be in difficult to leave is not a good thing (probably wise not to marry your boss with whom you are in an unbreakable contract). Yet between the separation and the release of the Glitter movie she had, without much outside influence, damaged her image, her voice and key relationships. Ultimately, it broke her. If Mottola and his team had been trying to save her from that, from herself, well, it would have been interesting to see what might have been. I recall that Mottola didn't stop ODB being on the Fantasy record but that he did stop Mariah being in the studio when ODB was a mess laying down his vocal. That it was eventually more important to Mariah to make herself the darling of the hip-hop world and a sex symbol to the the rest of it is what it is. So be it. As it stands, this year there is a new record coming out on which must be the most awful vocals if the most recent The Butterfly Returns shows are anything to go by. She wouldn't even win a karaoke competition to her own songs let alone a recording contract. But as long as the hip-hop guys tell her she is hot, I don't think she cares. (Tuesday 4 September 2018; 17:23)

Re: She at it again (83,589) (83,591) by Tijl from Belgium Stella should also realize she is up against a professional with 28 years of experience who learned to handle shenanigans like this the hard way. Mariah may have issues and some skeletons in the closet - just like everybody else - but she is definitely not a fool. "I am a press conference, you're a conversation." The biggest problem is actually the way the media features these stories already sharpening their knives to slice up Mariah. (Tuesday 4 September 2018; 16:03)

New release (83,590) by Tijl from Belgium According to The Mariah Carey Chronicle: "Breaking: Amazon.co.uk has added a new Mariah Carey CD to their site to be released on October 26, 2018. Could this be the new album? Pre-order now." Amazon mentions a release date for a Japanese special edition containing 2 discs. Exciting. (Tuesday 4 September 2018; 15:54)

She at it again (83,589) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) Stella is using any tool possible as blackmail because she is mad that Mariah took control of her own life again, she sees that Mariah is slowly gaining her confidence back and enjoying life with positive energy around her. Honestly speaking Stella is just upset because she is no longer calling the shots and can no longer live off of Mariah for her own personal and selfish gain. Again wake up everyone Stella didn't have any issues with Mariah's so called alarming behavior until she was dismissed of her duties as manager and single white female. Trust me when I say that this is all about bruised ego and pride nothing else. (Tuesday 4 September 2018; 15:08)

Re: She should've paid attention to us (83,585) (83,588) by Edward from USA I completely agree with you, but isn't it ironic that she seemed to have gotten out of a controlling relationship to enter into an addictive one? One that has tarnished an impressive career and almost turned her into a walking joke, at least up until her separation with Caricaturella. She wasn't ever really free when she divorced Tommy, she just started fluttering her wings within the confines of her own glass until she almost suffocated herself when she incorporated glitter to mix. I'm really hoping and rooting for her to be ok now with the right treatment. She seems to be. The voice won't recover to its old glory, but if her pregnancy proved something, it was the fact that when she puts the alcohol aside, her voice recovers to a very decent state. I hate to say it, but I'm glad this Stella situation is happening, I rather she has her wake-up call while she can still do something about it. She has a lot to lose, and people in her life who need her to be ok for many more years to come. She owes that to them. (Tuesday 4 September 2018; 14:07)

Re: She should've paid attention to us (83,584) (83,587) by Bill from the UK Both points being made here are intertwined. Yes, Tommy kept Mariah sequestered from the outside world and thus she didn't, presumably, dabble in any substances that would harm her voice. But once she separated from Tommy she seemingly went from one extreme to the other. The over arching take away for me is, had Mariah been no more than just another artist on Sony's books like, I don't know, Gloria Estefan and she was happily allowed to carry down the more soul/old school sound she was doing on the Emotions LP, rather than being geared towards commercial music, I wonder where she would be now and what state. She might only have 5 number ones to her name, but she could well still sound as she did during the beginning of her career. But everyone made their choices. She walked down that aisle, she walked out of Sing Sing, and she also walked out the marijuana store in Aspen with bags and bags of purchases. It is what it is and we are where we are. As has been said, she needs to drop the act and do the best with what she has left. (Tuesday 4 September 2018; 12:55)

Re: She should've paid attention to us (83,585) (83,586) by Stacey from USA Well duh. I would too. (Tuesday 4 September 2018; 10:25)

Re: She should've paid attention to us (83,581) (83,585) by Todd from Sydney, Australia I think I would rather get out of a controlling relationship and suffer professionally, than stay in one and be successful. The expectation of anything else is ridiculous and kinda creepy. (Tuesday 4 September 2018; 08:09)

Re: She should've paid attention to us (83,577) (83,584) by Randy from USA But what's ironic in this moment Edward is how nasty everyone became when I argued about the voice changes and deterioration 19 years ago. I never wanted to be right. I wanted an explanation. I was a fan to the highest degree but I was a realist. I knew what I heard and I knew that the constant talking about being a songwriter, a beauty school dropout, ensembles, lighting, Jack her dog has a website, being in the studio, was a cover for the fact that she couldn't sing anymore. And not being able to sing didn't mean sounding like her old self. We're talking about not sounding good live. The funny thing is that so many people on here think Andrew, I and others get a kick out of being right. I don't. No pun intended. I always wanted MC to win. At her height as a singer/songwriter, there will never be anyone who could match those two abilities at the same time. I want her to win but she won't listen to us. That's evidenced by Stella. But for real for real, address the vocal decline publically, write and sing songs on your new album you can sing live without issue and lose the diva image. I swear she will catch the public with the new Mariah moreso than with the iconic legend diva personified. Because the general public loves authenticity, the new Mariah will have been who she was all along. But as fans we will keep that our little secret. (Tuesday 4 September 2018; 05:32)

Queen of shade (83,583) by RibbonB from USA Was truly Aretha Franklin. This article from Vulture highlights her most iconic moments. I love the Liz Smith story and her Mariah moment is more cute and funny than shade. Of course we know Aretha covered Touch My Body in her concerts when the hit was new. She faux coyly shys away from certain lyrics nothingness church roots. Gotta love her self assured attitude and her sense of humor. I wish Mariah would share a warm or humorous story of herself and the queen. Aretha seemed very pleased when Mimi was awarded the BET Honors award in 2012, I believe it was. Time flies and surely changes things. (Tuesday 4 September 2018; 05:03)

Prince Charlez (83,582) by Bobby A from United States He has a great YouTube interview video about how he got his start as a songwriter. His mentor was RedOne (Lady Gaga). They wrote Usher's More together. His songwriting style is very aggressive and hard hitting including his own solo work. He sort of reminds me of Jermaine Stewart and his flamboyant personality. He fits the profile in how MC chooses collaborators. He is young, fresh, unique and a catchy songwriter. Reminds you of JD, right. I guess Rihanna's Needed You made her want to collaborate with him. Check out his song Bitty. Hilarious song title but catchy lyrics and melody. He dances really good in the video. If you want to hear him sing a ballad he wrote, check out Mary J. Blige's Smile. He can really sing. We may just get another Butterfly album really soon. (Tuesday 4 September 2018; 04:40)

Re: She should've paid attention to us (83,577) (83,581) by Stacey from USA Spot on. Tommy's controlling ways weren't exclusive to her dress. He also set rules, whatever you want to call it to keep her voice in top form. Once she left the marriage all of a sudden her voice takes a hit. (Tuesday 4 September 2018; 00:04)

Re: Music Box songs ranked (83,561) (83,580) by B from USA Daydream is considered an R&B Soul album with Pop leanings. (Monday 3 September 2018; 18:28)

Re: She should've paid attention to us (83,577) (83,579) by RibbonB from USA Why should Stella be mad when that was revealed four years ago? If nobody dwelt on Morgan's tabloid revelations it was not because no one wanted to believe him. That diagnosis is for Mimi to discuss, if it's to be discussed anyway. Stella is mostly hot air anyway. This is all some dumb plan, ill conceived and destined to flop like her other attempts to use Mimi. (Monday 3 September 2018; 18:03)

Re: She should've paid attention to us (83,577) (83,578) by Atwood from NY Anything that is said about Mariah from Stella is basically considered nonsense. I don’t really think any non-lambs care about Mariah and a yo-yo diet, her love life or if she has abused alcohol or prescription pills. It is gossip, drama and word of mouth. Most of the world has other issues to deal with and has already seen Mariah at her worst. Lol and to top the whole thing off Stella is a no name nobody, honestly I wouldn’t be worried. (Monday 3 September 2018; 17:52)

She should've paid attention to us (83,577) by Edward from USA It's so sad that Mariah couldn't see the type of person she was surrounding herself with. The thing is that on a deposition, which would become public record when attached as an exhibit on any court proceeding, Stella will be airing Mariah's dirty laundry. We already knew about the alcohol issue, and even though we didn't want to believe Morgan, about her being bipolar. The weed was kind of evident, but the prescription medication situation really scares the crap out of me. Stella is mad because Mariah revealed her being bipolar before she could use it as a weapon to push her to settle, but she's still coming for her throat. As much as I hate Caricaturella, I think all this mess and lawsuit has worked in Mariah's favor by pushing her to stay on track with treatment not only for her mental disorder, but also for alcohol abuse and prescription medications. I would die if she were to end up like Michael Jackson. The proof was always in the pudding, but many "real" fans refused to see it. It's obvious now that the deterioration of her voice isn't directly proportional to her polyps and nodules, but the lifestyle she chose post Tommy. When Mariah turned into a free beautiful butterfly, she must've have soaked her wings in alcohol before she prepared to fly. What happened to Mariah's voice? Well, I guess we all know for sure by now. Three people who don't know one another, and who have been closed to her, have stated the same thing, not matter the context, there must be some truth to it. (Monday 3 September 2018; 16:59)

Re: The truth will come out (83,575) (83,576) by MusicfanJ from Germany Stella is a true nightmare/black widow. That she was "connected" with Mariah, still unbelievable. Even if I would be drunk as hell, I would run away from this witch. Lol. Seriously I hope that this chapter get closed for all time. (Monday 3 September 2018; 12:30)

Re: The truth will come out (83,574) (83,575) by Tijl from Belgium Stella is the ultimate black widow. A psychopath without limits or remorse. But she can create bad press that will affect Mariah's future endeavours and Stella knows it. (Monday 3 September 2018; 12:03)

The truth will come out (83,574) by Bobby A from United States Stellazilla must be broke now. She really has nerve to openly blackmail Mariah. She really was a dark time in Mariah's life professionally and personally. She is like an itch that won't go away. I know MC should stay quiet but I hope she has shade track on the new album about Stella. (Monday 3 September 2018; 04:37)

Re: "Music Box" (83,572) (83,573) by Bill from the UK Make It Happen also didn't give any credit for sampling "I Want To Thank You" by Alicia Myers either. Make It Happen uses the exact same backing track, only in a different key. (Monday 3 September 2018; 00:18)

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