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Re: Walter the retail relic (87,182) (87,186) by Victoria from USA Sorry dude, but no. I just went through a video of all their songs together. Most of her final album tracks were with him, which were her most personal tracks. Not to mention "Do you think of me" and "Everything fades away", "Love takes time". (Friday 21 December 2018; 23:07)

Instagram stalker (87,185) by Jamie from UK I just noticed on Instagram that Tommy Mottola follows Mariah. Obviously she doesn't follow him back. Anyone else find that a bit odd? If I was Thalia I wouldn't be best pleased. (Friday 21 December 2018; 21:40)

Re: We are in the midst of the Mariahsance (87,177) (87,184) by Jared from USA Thanks for writing this wonderful article Richard. (Friday 21 December 2018; 21:28)

Re: We are in the midst of the Mariahsance (87,177) (87,183) by Tevin from USA Love the article Richard. (Friday 21 December 2018; 18:25)

Walter the retail relic (87,182) by Geronimo from USA Walter and people nostalgic for his work with Mariah Carey are in a tough spot. His concept of "big" songs, as far as I'm concerned, represent the low point of Mariah's musical creativity. Songs he mentions in that whiny-man article are certainly big hits that connect with people in a very obvious, sentimental, and traditional way. And by traditional I don't mean anything as deep as "classical". I mean 'traditional' in the sense that a certain type of commercial or sitcom or Hollywood movie predictably pulls at people's heartstrings while playing on common tropes that require no thinking, risk, or creativity on the artist's part. Mariah's collaborations with Walter represent a stream of hits based on a well known and easy to perform formula of sentiments, melodies, harmonies, and climaxes. I think Mariah Carey is currently at her creative peek because she is helping to create a genre of music that blends hip-hop, rap, and r&b in playful and mature way. Her lyrics now are creative and fun as well as subtle compared to her most sentimental and cloying Hallmark card-like renderings from the early and mid 90s. The songs she wrote with Walter are almost always the songs I skip when listening to older albums because although her voice does all the amazing things we associate with Mariah Carey, the songs she wrote with Walter are often the ones that are least creative, the most predictable, the corniest both musically and lyrically. They often sound like listening to something everybody in the world would identify with as a result of being exposed to the same ideology rather than songs only Mariah Carey would think of and sing in her very unique yet intuitive melodic style. At the same time, I'm happy for her success with Christmas music but I could live a long time without ever hearing a AIWFCIU again. Sorry. Therefore - Walter and friends' comparisons between Mariah Carey, Celine Dion, and Whitney Houston are quite a bit off to begin with. From a commercial perspective they certainly occupied the same retail slot for years. However, Mariah Carey was always coming from a different place and going different places than either of them intended and Walter only represents the brief moment when adult contemporary music gave Mariah Carey a platform to begin that which she has only begun to do. (Friday 21 December 2018; 17:29)

Re: We are in the midst of the Mariahsance (87,177) (87,181) by MusicfanJ from Germany I enjoyed it too. Great article. It's true, I was almost surprised about the good music reviews for "Caution". Mariah can be proud of her successful tour, her new album and of course the love she's finally getting from the music business. And I think we as fans are happy that 2018 Mariah was showing that she's having fun again with her music and tour. (Friday 21 December 2018; 14:10)

Re: We are in the midst of the Mariahsance (87,177) (87,180) by Dav from Ireland Great article. Thanks for writing it. (Friday 21 December 2018; 11:21)

Re: Chanel 5 "documentary" (87,172) (87,179) by Gilles from Malta I just watched it, there is nothing bad about MC , it is a really nice documentary, they explain how All I Want for Christmas has become a smash it. The tree shopper where she buys is just fantastic. Walter speaks about it very well. Actually this documentary shows up a lot the extravaganza, how Mariah makes it a big production and how down to earth MC is. For everyone who wants to watch it go on Channel 5 and use a "VPN Happy Seasons Guys". (Friday 21 December 2018; 10:39)

2018 - a year to remember (87,178) by We are Lambily from USA In other news let's celebrate Mariahs new milestones of 2018. She is in top 20 most streamed female artists of the year at #17 on Apple Music, and at #21 on Spotify list. Mariah has 11 of the 600 biggest songs of all time "more than any other artist". Billboard named We Belong Together as the greatest female R&B song of all time and all I Want for Christmas as the greatest Christmas song. Over 4 billion spins on Pandora, 1.6 billion units sold in Asia. Glitter hitting #1 after 17 years. 40 platinum records in Spain alone. And she released the most critically acclaimed album of her career, that's crazy. She really is one of the greatest artists of all time aka top 3. Remind me if I forget something, I stream all I can. (Friday 21 December 2018; 10:31)

We are in the midst of the Mariahsance (87,177) by Richard from USA In the last two months, music superstar Mariah Carey released her most critically acclaimed album to date, experienced unprecedented success with her classic Christmas tune, and even saw her biggest flop roar back to the top of the charts after 17 years of relentless mockery. She's having a creative resurgence and the media narrative surrounding her is finally shifting. I just published an article with my take on it all here and thought some of the readers of this site might enjoy. Happy holidays everyone. (Friday 21 December 2018; 06:59)

RibbonB / Walter (87,176) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) Your post is spot on, thank you. (Friday 21 December 2018; 00:11)

Re: Mariah: The Diva, The Demons, The Drama (87,155) (87,175) by Jamie from UK I didn't mind it tbh, a little far fetched in parts but I think it helped people understand her background and as to why Tommy affected her so much. Plus it made Stella look like the complete blame for the last few years. And it was nice to see Morgan and Alison being nice about her. I did laugh at the Brenda double though haha. And it finished praising Mariah about her future which I thought was great. (Thursday 20 December 2018; 23:17)

˝ a billion views (87,174) by John john from UK Woo hoo Mariah smashed 500 million views today on YouTube for AIWFC. Congratulations, still sounds so fresh in the radio too. (Thursday 20 December 2018; 22:33)

Walter's comments (87,173) by sally from united states After reading the interview with Walter I don't know what to think. I find it kind of hard to believe that Mariah would only evolve her sound to be heard on the radio. That being said I do agree with Walter's comments regarding the current state of music. In my opinion most of what they play is nowhere near the greatness of the 70s, 80s and 90s. I especially miss songs having interesting openings, background harmonies and being instrumentally rich. Current music sounds very flat to me, if that's the proper adjective. (Thursday 20 December 2018; 22:19)

Chanel 5 "documentary" (87,172) by Billy from Greece To this day, I don't think I have seen a UK-produced "documentary" about Mariah that is not exaggerated to death, victimizing, defamatory or cringe-worthy. (Thursday 20 December 2018; 20:53)

Re: (87,141) (87,171) by B from USA From the bottom of my heart, I would like to thank each and every one of you. (Thursday 20 December 2018; 19:07)

Re: Walter (87,160) (87,170) by RibbonB from USA Hmph, funny that all these people you mention seem to be afforded the "insecurity privilege", but Mimi the diva is supposed to be the generous queen at all times. Bump that, all these clowns need to STFU and GTFO. Lol. I get sick of the whining for attention and credit, whether it is Brenda, Tommy, Walter, brother, sister, Stella or other assorted non factors. Get over it, you got paid, now scram. (Thursday 20 December 2018; 18:28)

Re: Walter (87,168) (87,169) by B from USA It worked. Carey felt that she had captured the essence of Christmas with her surroundings, and could now channel it through the music. Together with Afanasieff, they wrote the chords, structure and melody of AIWFCIY in just 15 minutes. Afanasieff told Billboard: "I started playing some rock 'n' roll piano and started boogie woogie-ing my left hand, and that inspired Mariah to come up with the melodic (sings) 'I don't want a lot for Christmas'. And then we started singing and playing around with this rock 'n' roll boogie song, which immediately came out to be the nucleus of the song. Then for the next week or two Mariah would call me and say, 'What do you think about this bit?' We would talk a little bit until she got the lyrics all nicely coordinated and done." Mariah wrote the lyrics and melody so she technically only needed Walter to realize her vision. Read more. The media is blowing his comments out of proportion. It's now a major news story. He's much better of when he doesn't speak. (Thursday 20 December 2018; 18:03)

Re: Walter (87,162) (87,168) by Chicago Lamb from USA In all fairness, I do remember Mariah mentioning him once this promotional season. I think it was the Genius interview. However, Mariah is the star of the matter. When she talks about songs or albums she's done she can't possibly mention every co-writer/producer listed, that's just dumb. AIWFCIY is a Mariah song, it's very simple. When people look up the credits they will see he's been given all the credit due to him under his contract at the time. Walter can check his bank account too if he feels slighted. Furthermore, we don't even know if the article is real. Happiest of holidays to everyone. What an amazing era this has been for Mariah and us lambs. I'll be seeing Mariah here in Chicago this spring. (Thursday 20 December 2018; 15:48)

Re: Thanks Walter (87,156) (87,167) by B from USA Those big ballads you love don't chart unless your name is Adele and her follow up to Hello stalled in the 20's on the Hot 100. (Thursday 20 December 2018; 15:17)

Re: Walter is Tommy M's silent attack (87,161) (87,166) by B from USA Walter stilll works with/for Tommy. He wrote and produced songs for artists signed to Tommy's Casablanca record label. (Thursday 20 December 2018; 15:15)

Caution (87,165) by B from USA This is an interesting article about how the public underestimates Mariah and how she is deserving of all the praise she is recieving for Caution. (Thursday 20 December 2018; 15:13)

Re: Walter (87,160) (87,164) by B from USA He sided with Tommy for financial reasons and he told Tommy Mariah was going to alienate her audience with the musical direction she was taking on Butterfly which ended their professional and personal relationships. I find it odd that he went on to praise My All in the interview after all the interviews he's done in the past claiming she makes up words using My All as an example. (Thursday 20 December 2018; 15:11)

Article: Walter slams Mariah for not giving him recognition (87,163) by Betty from Canada Walter obviously doesn't know that when MC says she wrote the song as a kid, she was using the word "kid" in a figurative sense, where she actually meant "a long time ago, when she was really young, as in she still felt like a kid she was 23 years old. However, Walter is right about MC not mentioning him, but that is what happens when you wrong MC, she doesn't know you anymore. (Thursday 20 December 2018; 14:04)

Walter (87,162) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) Walter is very bitter, those sour grapes that he has been eating have not done him any justice. He wants Mariah to be boxed in which is very disappointing. You would think no matter what he would want to see her grow as an artist. But I am going to say he would not mind her growth as long as he had something to do with it. But since himself, or Tommy, are not a part of the equation any longer he does not like it. Honestly we as fans and supporters should be thankful that Mariah wanted to grow as a creative because she would not be around today had she decided to keep the same formula. (Thursday 20 December 2018; 13:16)

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