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Re: Giving Me Life (86,718) (86,731) by Hector from Mexico
Great song. The rap fits very well with the rest of the song. I love the "your gold fronts look better than mines did" part.
(Saturday 1 December 2018; 19:48)
Re: Christmas tour (86,711) (86,730) by MusicfanJ from Germany
I was even suprised that she will do one show in Germany for the Christmas concert. Last year it was only Paris and the UK. And the last concert in Cologne during her "SSFT" wasn't sold out. Anyway I hope we'll enjoy her concert. Can't believe it's next week. Frohe Weihnachten Andrew.
(Saturday 1 December 2018; 19:45)
Re: Music Box v. Daydream v. Merry Christmas (86,723) (86,729) by Hector from Mexico
Merry Christmas is glorious. It's a perfect album and Mariah's masterpiece. Sorry Butterfly.
(Saturday 1 December 2018; 19:33)
Re: 8th Grade (86,724) (86,728) by Bobby A from United States
That's my jam too. I totally agree. We need a 8 track album next summer with only Timbaland songs. They make magic together.
(Saturday 1 December 2018; 19:08)
Re: 8th Grade (86,724) (86,727) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada
I'm glad to hear you love this track too. So pretty.
(Saturday 1 December 2018; 19:04)
Re: Music Box v. Daydream v. Merry Christmas (86,721) (86,726) by B from USA
I've always considered Mariah vocal peak as being from 1994-1996. From Merry Christmas and Daydream. I think sometime between the last date on the daydream World tour and recording and promoting Butterfly Mariah experienced a vocal issue like Adele and Sam Smith did.
(Saturday 1 December 2018; 18:21)
Caution (86,725) by Special K from USA
It took me awhile but Caution has really grown on me. The album really takes off from tracks 3-10. Still really not feeling OMG but Caution is even starting to grow on me. At the end of the day Mariah really did put out a good album. For me I still feel it could have used perhaps more ballads. Portrait (what a beautiful song, almost made me cry) isn't enough but overall this album is a good album. I see why Caution has gotten so many positive reviews. Is it me or has anyone noticed all of the media spin positivity love Mariah has been getting? Caution may not sell well however it appears that Mariah's positive image is selling very well and that is a beautiful thing.
(Saturday 1 December 2018; 18:04)
8th Grade (86,724) by Special K from USA
Wow 8th Grade is my new jam. This song is a mid tempo ballad. The infectious finger snap accompanied with the harp like plucking sound and those Timberland beats complement and enhance Mariah's voice. I love the way Timberland broke it down at the end of the song bouncing his beats against Mariah's high notes. Reminds me of a call and response cadence. 8th Grade is one of the best produced songs on Caution. I hope they release it to radio. Mariah and Timberland need to work on more songs together. It's all about the 8th Grade.
(Saturday 1 December 2018; 17:54)
Re: Music Box v. Daydream v. Merry Christmas (86,721) (86,723) by Bill from the UK
Merry Christmas pretty much eclipses everything vocally. It was, dare I say, her last full on flawless vocal delivery. Daydream is brilliant but her vocals were nasally and brassy and she started breaking up her melisma runs on that album. Then it went downhill from there with her vocals getting worse with every album. Music Box was so middle of the road Mariah almost has a stripe painted down her face. Again, some great moments (AYNAF, Never Forget You), but she doesn't sing full throttle like on Merry Christmas. I can't fault a single line she sings.
(Saturday 1 December 2018; 17:42)
Re: Christmas tour (86,691) (86,722) by yiorgos from Germany , Berlin
I will go to the Berlin concert. Any lambs going to the Berlin show?
(Saturday 1 December 2018; 15:59)
Music Box v. Daydream v. Merry Christmas (86,721) by Norman from USA
Vocals only. I know that Daydream is considered her vocal prime, but there's something about her vocals on Merry Christmas that seems to stand just a tad higher. MC > DD, MB. I can't decide between DD and MB. What say you?
(Saturday 1 December 2018; 10:16)
Re: Almost Home (86,705) (86,720) by Shezz from Pk
The temperature is rising, crack a window.
(Saturday 1 December 2018; 08:55)
Re: Christmas tour (86,701) (86,719) by Lara from Middle East
I'm going to her concert in Paris, December 7th.
(Saturday 1 December 2018; 07:28)
Giving Me Life (86,718) by Stacey from USA
Ok so tonight after I got my kiddos to bed, I put in Caution and let it play for the first time. Decided to take a few seconds break from Christmas music. This gem of a song came on. What a gem. The arrangement is so different. Edgy. Haunting. Beautiful. I found myself immediately wanting to sing along even before the song was done. Is there anyone that could make me an edit? Shorten it? The rap just doesn't need to be there. Takes away from the song whereas Ty Dolla fits right in on The Distance. Anyways this song is a definite winner.
(Saturday 1 December 2018; 06:16)
Grinchmas already? (86,717) by Nikki from usa
Mariah's enjoying some success and fans are having a good time, so it's time for the wet blanket. Typically, sales drop by 50% or more in the second week for album debuts which has been an ongoing trend for years now. Obviously, a second week isn't going to compare to weeks of pre-orders on top of a week of release for a debut. That should be common sense, but let's try to push a common occurrence as proof that people don't like this album because everyone has a right to my opinion. It's almost as good as complaining Mariah doesn't sing songs she doubts people are familiar with as if Mariah is vapid for heeding supply and demand. I know if I was a singer, I'd bypass the hit songs and current tracks from the album I'm promoting to sing obscure songs only a minority knows about. Clearly, that's the best career move. Grinchmas onward.
(Saturday 1 December 2018; 03:42)
What if Caution was released in 1994 (86,716) by Bobby A from United States
I was just thinking today that if Caution was released in 1994, MC would have given us some powerhouse vocals. GTFO would have been sung in the same airy vocal style similar to Underneath The Stars. 8th Grade would have been sung in a higher key with MC's vocals swooping over Timbaland's keyboard programming. Giving Me Life's vocals would sound stronger and better. One Mo Gen's vocals wouldn't be so hard to understand as MC sings in that fast rapping style. Stay Long Love You would have some strong whistle notes at the end of the song. Caution would have some stronger Fantasy type vocals. Portrait would have been that powerhouse vocal with a gospel choir that Caution is missing. With You would have been sung in a totally different way. It would have been We Belong Together 1994.
(Saturday 1 December 2018; 01:31)
Caution: a track a day (5 of 7) (86,715) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
Caution
In most cases for many artists, a title track is one of the stronger songs, if not the strongest song on the album. The theme of which sets the tone and serves as either the centerpiece or the foundation of the entire body of work it belongs to. For Mariah, the only time this has truly been the case was Butterfly (Emotions and Music Box were both strong, but not as much representative of their respective albums as a whole, and Rainbow was just an interlude, so it doesn't really count).

Caution, as Mariah's first title track in over a decade, faces the pressure of living up to its edgy title. On that front, it fails. It's not the uber-cool, banging, sinister song its title suggests it to be. However, as a song itself, it is better than decent. This is the type of material that would die on the hands of less capable artists. While its production is interesting if only in the sense that it sounds like nothing Mariah has done before, it's Mariah's input that singlehandedly keeps it from going limp. The slick, interesting phrasing in the verses and pre-chorus are much more interesting than the hook itself, which is unfortunately the weakest part of the song.

The bridge does a great job of building up to the song's climax, which would have been better if she actually thought of something else to go with the great melody other than just repeating the song's title. Caution also showcases some of the album's better, more spirited and enthusiastic ad-libs from Mariah. Overall, it's a serviceable song that could have appeared on E=MC2 and that is better judged by its own merits than as an eponymous track. Should this be a future single, it's gonna need a high profile guest feature to catch fire.
(Saturday 1 December 2018; 00:52)
Re: Why 8th Grade? Butterfly marries TEOM (86,704) (86,714) by B from USA
Thanks for the explanation. I'll give those albums a listen on Spotify.
(Friday 30 November 2018; 23:41)
Re: Caution (86,673) / Caution vs. E=MC2 (86,713) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
For me, Caution is a combination of E=MC2 and MOAIA. I know that may sound blasphemous to some of y'all but hear me out - the upbeat tracks on this album have the same party/club DNA present on E=MC2. They sound like they could easily fit into that album. The mid-tempo and slower tracks, probably with the exception of Portrait and Giving Me Life, sound like extensions of the MOAIA sound.

I wouldn't say Caution is better than E=MC2, though. I'd say they are equals. E=MC2 just makes for a much more fun and enjoyable listen, while Caution is the most success she has ever had at updating her sound whilst keeping her stamp intact. It is an exercise of balance between indulging what the younger folks listen to these days and maintaining her own sound.

Even vocally, I remember many fans and even some critics then being let down with E=MC2 vocally, especially coming from TEOM, but they ultimately still enjoyed the album because it really was dessert to the main course. The vocals on Caution are pretty much the same. Very controlled, acrobatics and embellishments are reserved only for the climaxes, except now they are pushed further in the back. What it lacks in overall catchiness, it makes up for in the background vocals, especially the harmonies.

To me, both albums are even. (TEOM is the main celebration.) E=MC2 is the kickass reception party, while Caution is the after party when everyone's already tipsy and reality and sense starts to sink back in. (MOAIA can be the morning after where everyone's hungover and trying to recall the blur of events that transpired the night before.)
(Friday 30 November 2018; 23:36)
Re: Why 8th Grade? Butterfly marries TEOM (86,703) (86,712) by Bobby A from United States
Part of my message was left off when it was posted. I was referring to how she sounds on One Mo Gen.
(Friday 30 November 2018; 22:48)
Re: Christmas tour (86,691) (86,711) by Andrew from UK
I have always wanted to spend Christmas in Germany. I would definitely go to a Mariah concert there. It baffles me she doesn't focus upon the market much. Purchase-wise it is the same level as the UK. Frohe Weihnachten.
(Friday 30 November 2018; 22:26)
Article: "Caution" debuts at No. 1 on top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums (86,710) by Terri from USA
I have yet to hear any Caution tracks play on the radio (Central Florida). I don't understand how radio play works. Seems to me that if her songs received even a modicum of more air play they would move up the charts more and faster. I wondered if she was being put on the back burner because she's not of the new era. As a fan, it's so frustrating.
(Friday 30 November 2018; 22:17)
Re: Cohesion (86,708) (86,709) by Andrew from UK
Bit awks for you. Wales is in Britain. And I was born there. You'll land one soon. Just not today.
(Friday 30 November 2018; 21:47)
Re: Cohesion (86,702) (86,708) by Robby from Chicago USA
Yehey. Wales vs Britain. Awesome.
(Friday 30 November 2018; 21:41)
Re: Cohesion (86,702) (86,707) by 123 from USA
Read ha AB.
(Friday 30 November 2018; 21:15)

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