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Re: First post (80,642) (80,649) by Manuel from Germany Hey Victor. Nice to meet you. Great middle name. Yes, I wrote from the heart and I am glad it shows because so many people are so caught up in their thoughts and head and have so many projections on other people and we are all connected by this, how we think of, regard, and thus treat other people and by consequence ourselves. We are all the same. And I think that in Mariah's case instead of criticizing everything she does, says, posts, and sings, we could instead choose to accept that whatever she shares with the world is what she wants to share, and if we don't like it, we have the right to not like it, but our not liking it doesn't mean that she should do differently. I observe in some lambs that they see Mariah as owing them something and I ask myself what? At this point, she owes nobody anything, and I think nobody ever owes anything to anybody (but let me stop there before I get too philosophical). Do I like everything she does? No. But do I need to take it personally? No. I think it is all a matter of perception, and I think that if you choose to perceive someone as owing you something, nothing they give will ever be good enough, because you are measuring that person by your own standards which might have nothing to do with how a person (in this case Mariah) chooses to express herself. However, if you choose to perceive her as one who does what she wants at this point, you are free to enjoy what you like from it and can let the rest be. Wouldn't that be nice? (Friday 26 January 2018; 15:35)

Re: Endless Love (80,631) (80,648) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada Thank you Edward. What a lovely message to read. (Friday 26 January 2018; 14:37)

Re: Couldn't Give That Away (80,644) (80,647) by Bill from the UK Please don't belittle the fact that so many people lost their lives in one of the most catastrophic events on the sea. Look beyond Leonardo DiCaprio and Hollywood and understand that this was a tragic, terrifying end for many people. For all you know, someone reading your note or responding to it may have had an ancestor lose their life that night, so for many there is a reason why that song resonates. (Friday 26 January 2018; 13:25)

Re: First post (80,626) (80,646) by Billy from Greece Great post, Manuel. I totally identify with everything you said. (Friday 26 January 2018; 11:05)

Re: Mariah's most inspiring song (80,620) (80,645) by Terna from Nigeria For me that would be "Through The Rain" because that song was written in the moment, when she had hit rock bottom so to speak. It's a powerful song and most people don't even realise one of her numerous signature songs. On a personal level, it pulled me through dark times and I still spin it ever so often today and I feel Mariah's own life today is testament to the message of that song. The dark clouds have passed, she indeed has made it through the rain. (Friday 26 January 2018; 10:20)

Re: Couldn't Give That Away (80,636) (80,644) by Tijl from Belgium It is a matter of finding whatever you need within the lyrics and how they resonate to your personal situation. Millions of people around the world cried their eyes out because Céline lamented about a sinking ship. Talk about schmaltz. I do agree however that both videos for CTTA were not very good. (Friday 26 January 2018; 06:57)

Re: Couldn't Give That Away (80,636) (80,643) by Victor from Costa Rica Andrew, you need God in your life. Stop being bitter, you are a true hater. (Friday 26 January 2018; 02:35)

Re: First post (80,626) (80,642) by Victor from Costa Rica Hi Manuel. Wellcome on board. I appreciate your comments because you spoke with your heart. Nice to read fresh perspectives from Lambs around the world. Note: Manuel is my middle name. (Friday 26 January 2018; 02:29)

Re: Mariah's most inspiring song (80,620) (80,641) by Victor from Costa Rica It would be Can't Take That Away and The Art Of Letting Go. (Friday 26 January 2018; 02:21)

Grammys (80,640) by Cassie from Canada That's a good prediction and would explain why she's in New York besides it being her hometown. (Friday 26 January 2018; 01:23)

Re: Mariah's most inspiring song (80,635) (80,639) by Special K from USA Make It Happen and Triumphant inspire me to my core. (Friday 26 January 2018; 01:20)

Re: CTTA Oprah (80,637) (80,638) by Stacey from USA Back in 2003, I attended the final night of the CB tour in So Cal. The song voted by the fans for her to sing that night was CTTA. The song was good but had never registered with me personally. I had been going through some crap around that time. People spreading rumors, gossiping, etc. Here I was dead center, 15 rows back. When she sang that line you quoted, something inside of me changed. I began to love those words and not care a flying crap what someone outside of me felt. My personal anthem is Looking In. Oh my... (Friday 26 January 2018; 00:04)

CTTA Oprah (80,637) by Andrew from UK Before the mental thumbs down you all just gave my life sinks in, I will add that even though this isn't a good vocal performance, the very last "They can try, but they can't take that away from me" at 3:45 is so brilliantly sung and very genuine and moving I sing that one part to myself a few times a week walking down the street. So all hope isn't lost. If it's not that line, it's: "But victory or defeat, it's up to me to decide. But how can I expect to win, if I never try?" I sing that one line a lot. It's amazing. Both songs grate on me for different reasons, but songs can have snippets that mean something. Don't know if you guys have simple snippets that you sing to yourself in public to keep going. But they is mine. (Thursday 25 January 2018; 21:15)

Couldn't Give That Away (80,636) by Andrew from UK Aside from being an unbelievably cheesy, schmaltzy, slow and agonising march toward death, CTTA has one of the worst promo videos ever filmed. So, Mariah's writing lyrics in a notepad. What is she writing in these books on these sofas? "I can't sing so good no more but I write songs. More on this in future videos, folks. Yes, that'll work. More writing lyrics. That's what they care about. That will make them lovvvvve meeeee." Then the treat of the slowmo lip syncing: lip-syncing so slow that Stephen Hawking could voice print the lyrics faster. And on that there lip-syncing, Mariah not daring to crease her face for one iddy biddy second is hilarious. Who knew Mariah was rehearsing for that Christmas Disaster Movie 15 years ago? The whole video is Mariah trying to be pretty but looking like she's been poppin' ("Heard you get it poppin', you get it poppin'"). Which leads into Mariah trying to make the cheapest, wouldn't-even-be-played-on-daytime-TV crappest video of that year into something worth watching, by moving like Stephen Hawking just found his balance again. When she goes "down" and squats I cried with tears of laughter and sadness at the same time. It's an incredible experience. But the worst thing of all: the condescending videos on the plasma screen. What in the world? Aww, some people not done had a good time? Shucks. What a load of patronising nonsense. But even worse: the lyrics are about being bullied - not being unhappy with your lot in life. Lance Armstrong had cancer? He wasn't bullied into having it. And, well, we all know what happened to him. The Williams sisters lived in Compton? Well they sure as shite don't live there anymore. Next on the list, someone has HIV and now talks about HIV to people who don't have HIV. Groundbreaking. And clearly sister-beating. And then sister-beating pointlessness 2.0: Shawn grew up with Allison and turned that negative energy into a law degree. (Totally without the financial and celebrity backing of his world famous, multi-millionaire aunt. Oh. No, wait...) The whole video is a frickin' embarrassment from start to finish and a testimony to what Mariah does when she has no guidance. (Thursday 25 January 2018; 21:00)

Re: Mariah's most inspiring song (80,630) (80,635) by T from USA And Make It Happen and Triumphant. (Thursday 25 January 2018; 20:15)

Re: Mariah's most inspiring song (80,620) (80,634) by Lara from Middle East For me lyrically Through The Rain is better but I don't like how she whispered through it. Can't Take That Away is much more enjoyable to listen. I think the most underrated inspirational song from Mariah is Almost Home. (Thursday 25 January 2018; 18:48)

Re: Mariah's most inspiring song (80,620) (80,633) by Dennis from Miami, FL For me it is definitely Vision of Love. Especially the lines "suffered from alienation, carried the weight on my own". Gets me every time. Close My Eyes helped me through many difficult times as well. Also in my playlist for inspiration: Make it Happen, Through the Rain, Hero, CTTA Morales remixes. (Thursday 25 January 2018; 18:17)

Re: Mariah's most inspiring song (80,620) (80,632) by Bill from the UK Good post and great song choice. For me it centres around what is defined as "inspiring". From a personal standpoint, a spiritual, a coping with loss etc. She has so many examples. I feel saved every time I listen to Fly Like A Bird, strong and sure of myself when it's Hero, fondly yet sadly remember a lost loved one with Never Forget You and One Sweet Day, and sure God has my back with Vision of Love. So it really depends haha. (Thursday 25 January 2018; 16:41)

Re: Endless Love (80,616) (80,631) by Edward from USA I very much enjoy your posts too, Deedre. Sometimes the board gets a little too serious, but I guess we should just sometimes relax a little. I don't know if I told you, but I do think you have a beautiful smile. (Thursday 25 January 2018; 15:09)

Re: Mariah's most inspiring song (80,625) (80,630) by MusicfanJ from Germany I was thinking about CTTA just two days ago. Because of the wonderful lyrics and the message. A funny happenstance that you mentioned this song on this topic. It's hard to choose the most inspiring song, Mariah has got a lot. Mine are "CTTA", "Outside" and "Trough the rain". Oh and "Hero" although it is very schmaltzy, I still love it. (Thursday 25 January 2018; 14:11)

Re: Mariah's most inspiring song (80,620) (80,629) by Susana from USA I also think that it's Can't Take That Away even more so than Hero, but unfortunately not as well known to general public. (Thursday 25 January 2018; 14:01)

Interesting question (80,628) by Jeff from USA I am going to go with '95. The Daydream album is where I fell in love with Mariah. From "Underneath the Stars" to "Melt Away", it had it all there for me. (Thursday 25 January 2018; 13:32)

Thanks webmaster (80,627) by Manuel from Germany Oh and I would like to express my gratitude to the webmaster for providing this platform to the lambily. I can only imagine how much work it is and must have been all the years. (Thursday 25 January 2018; 13:22)

First post (80,626) by Manuel from Germany Hey guys. This is my first post here. I am from Berlin, Germany, and I have been a lamb since 1999, when Against All Odds was a big hit here in Germany. I have been following this forum for many years now and I find it interesting how controversially Mariah is being discussed. I always wonder what it must feel like for her to have everybody and their mom think they are entitled to an opinion about her, and personally I try to just appreciate whatever nice things come from her. This board also made me realize how effed up the concepts of "celebrity" and "fame" are. All of us make wrong decisions all the time based on what we believe to be right, and imagine being someone like Mariah who is just a normal human being, has bad breath in the morning, goes to the toilet just like everybody else and lives in a crazy world where she has little to no contact with actual, real, working people, but has the same issues as everybody else. And then, to add to that, whatever she does, is being examined under a magnifying glass. She is just a person that is constantly evolving (just like everybody else), having to deal with things, having her own biographical baggage, living in an unreal world, and I for my part have decided to have compassion for this woman because I surely wouldn't want to change lives with her even for one day (or if I would, I would just sing to myself all day to really find out what is still left of that voice when nobody's watching & scrutinizing). But yeah, on another note: have you heard this remix? I love it. I'm looking forward to connecting with you guys. (Thursday 25 January 2018; 13:17)

Re: Mariah's most inspiring song (80,620) (80,625) by Tijl from Belgium I can only confirm your post. This song was and still is ever so inspiring. I love the performance at the Diana Ross tribute. A shame it never was broadcasted nor made available on DVD. (Thursday 25 January 2018; 11:24)

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