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Re: Glitter era vs now (Glitter era still had vocals) (76,450) (76,453) by Edward from USA Holy Moly, Edouard, you just made me have an epiphany. I see it all clear now. Mariah is putting out a series of mediocre singles so people get really disappointed with her music and not focus on it. For that she's bringing the attention to her tits, Stella and the posse. And then, she'll come back with a killer album at the end of 2037 and retire. Wow, I never thought of it that way. I always thought you were delusional, but you've opened my eyes. Mariah really knows what she's doing, she always has. (Tuesday 20 June 2017; 16:09)

Re: Glitter era vs now (76,437) (76,452) by T from USA Glitter was worse because she still cared and the people still cared so it was tough seeing her not be able to break through. This last few years since 2015 are just pointless. (Tuesday 20 June 2017; 15:30)

10 million dollar engagement ring on middle finger (76,451) by T from USA She's been wearing this for over six months now. Here is the problem with Mariah. What is she even thinking? The old Mariah would never. If this is her idea of keeping her career going or being buzzworthy then she needs to give it up already. (Tuesday 20 June 2017; 15:14)

Re: Glitter era vs now (Glitter era still had vocals) (76,444) (76,450) by Edouard from France You are wrong. Mariah has had many great performances since she started her Vegas residency. That's a fact. During the Glitter era a lot of people complained about her voice and her lack of energy. To me her "Hero" tribute is her best live version of the song (the most heartfelt), but many here don't like it. I believe Mariah has sung it better in term of technique during her Vegas residency. (Tuesday 20 June 2017; 14:17)

Legacy, storytelling and politics (76,449) by Edouard from France Mariah's dream has always been to have a long career. She's been saying it since her first interviews. I believe Mariah is doing everything she can to honor this wish but the industry isn't working with her. Never really has. I think Mariah has always had to work harder than most. I think Mariah's storytelling implies having obstacles to overcome (poverty, racism, controlling and violent husband, sexism,etc.) and the media is particularly hungry for that. they love to tear a successful artist (especially women) down. And we eat it up. Mariah knows what she's doing. She always has. A lot of people here think all she's ever done is music. Mariah is a effing politician, she's had to stand up for herself countless time inside and out of the industry. I think she's taking full control of everything now. She might be clumsy in her choices but at list she's not a puppet. (Tuesday 20 June 2017; 14:12)

Re: Glitter era vs now (76,443) (76,448) by Edouard from France Well, the demanding promotional tour actually put her in the hospital. (Tuesday 20 June 2017; 14:03)

Re: Glitter era vs now (Glitter era still had vocals) (76,444) (76,447) by Licia from USA For once I can agree with Sheila. Lol I believe that LNADSML performance was the only misstep at that time, but I won't even hold that one against her. (Tuesday 20 June 2017; 14:01)

Re: Glitter era vs now (76,437) (76,446) by Lara from Middle East Definitely now. In the Glitter era, you had the necessities for a comeback available. Most importantly, the public felt sorry for her, unlike now with her exaggerated diva persona. (Tuesday 20 June 2017; 14:01)

Re: Glitter era vs now (76,437) (76,445) by Malcolm from Asia I don't really know how big mess Glitter era was but I can say that the two is too different to be compared. When Glitter happened, Mariah was at the height of her career so she had more chance to redeem herself after that (TEOM), but this time, it's like she's already at the 4th quarter of her career to experience this and to label it as an "messy era" because there's no way she'll be on top again. The expectation from her is not to be #1 anymore but a stable career and life and putting out great pieces of work especially with her talent. She must mastered by now the how to be a legend 101 but she flips in the other direction so yeah good luck to that. (Tuesday 20 June 2017; 13:47)

Glitter era vs now (Glitter era still had vocals) (76,444) by Sheila from United States Say what you will about Glitter but Mariah was still an incredible singer during all of those performances except the lipped "Last night a Dj saved my life". The music was still solid and the vocals were still lovely. This era is an embarrassment to her legacy. (Tuesday 20 June 2017; 12:34)

Re: Glitter era vs now (76,437) (76,443) by Licia from USA This one. I can't hold Glitter against her because of her ending up in the hospital. At least during Glitter she had great performances before and after the hospital stint and she was promoting. (Tuesday 20 June 2017; 12:33)

Re: Glitter era vs now (76,437) (76,442) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines In the off chance that your query wasn't rhetorical, I'd say the Glitter era, as disastrous it was for Mariah both personally and professionally, is still better because she learned from it and grew stronger because of it. The reason was valid. It truly was a breakdown. She still had the public's support, which showed throughout the Charmbracelet era. By contrast, I don't even think you can call what's been happening post-Idol an era at all - it's more like a nightmare we still keep wishing to wake up from but instead keeps pulling us deeper, taking turns for the worse on almost a daily basis. This mess-fest that's been happening for the past 4 years now is Mariah throwing away everything she's worked hard for during her first 2 decades in the industry. You can really see just how different the Glitter era was from today by simply observing the public response to what's happening. Living through 2001 was painful. 2013 onwards is just exhausting. The fact that people have gone from sympathy to apathy is very telling. This isn't MJ or Whitney levels of depressing - at least not yet. I hate to say it but she may well be on her way there if she continues to regress at the rate she does now. Thankfully Roc and Roe are there to keep her sane. (Tuesday 20 June 2017; 12:18)

Re: Sent from up above (76,434) (76,441) by Bill from the UK I think the majority of the Margulies compositions were pre-record deal and the Rhett Lawrence ones after she had been signed. (Tuesday 20 June 2017; 12:16)

Re: Glitter era vs now (76,439) (76,440) by MusicfanJ from Germany I also think this era is worse than Glitter. I loved Glitter, Mariah was working too much, the movie flopped and MC had the "public breakdown". But then she seemed to recover slowly and took care of herself. That's what I miss now. I can't see any recovery or help. She seems lost and broken and is surrounded with stupid and toxic people. If you "follow" Mariah's music career since 22 years, it hurts to see her like this. (Tuesday 20 June 2017; 11:32)

Re: Glitter era vs now (76,437) (76,439) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter This era hands down. (Tuesday 20 June 2017; 10:34)

Re: We Belong Together remix (76,423) (76,438) by Bill from the UK WBT (original) samples Two Occassions. It's the line where she says "Then I hear Babyface, 'I only think of you', and it's breaking my heart." Babyface was the lead singer of The Deele. Mariah then sang the whole chorus on the remix. (Tuesday 20 June 2017; 07:36)

Glitter era vs now (76,437) by darrian liu from taiwan Which one is actually worse? This mess of an era or Glitter era? (Tuesday 20 June 2017; 05:26)

Re: Mariah has got to stop (76,399) (76,436) by darrian liu from taiwan Her voice is too damn chesty for her not to be straining. In the Glock performances she's not even comfortable within her usual comfort range. Her belts are too chesty and too heavy, and she's not using enough head resonance. I doubt she would want to remove the nodules, but the least she could do is see a good vocal trainer. No, not just good, he/she should be able to rehabilitate her voice. We need Gary Catona, the guy who managed to salvage what's left of Whitney's voice in her last days. (Tuesday 20 June 2017; 05:21)

Mark Suddack (76,435) by Edouard from France I came accross this video on YouTube and Mark Suddack seemed to be in the picture while Mariah started E=MC2 promotional tour. Interesting? (Tuesday 20 June 2017; 03:17)

Sent from up above (76,434) by Edouard from France I wander when did Mariah write this song. Musically it is so 90's. The song reminds me [of] "Woooops now" by Janet and "Say you'll be there" by the Spice Girls, but obviously Mariah wrote it first. [The] other uptempo on the album sound very late 8's to me where as "Sent from up above" is timeless. I would say it's probably [one] of her most timeless uptempo along with Dreamlover, Fantasy (the remix with ODB), ABMBB, Honey, Breakdown, ILT, TMB, [and] #Beautiful. (Tuesday 20 June 2017; 02:49)

Re: Lionel new Idol judge (76,432) (76,433) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Haha no that's just me being a mess and starting things. I was joking but also partly serious, I mean it's almost monitored visits when Stella is always around, watching, listening, planning, plotting (haha ok I got carried away). I said that because even Shawn doesn't get to see Mariah much nowadays like when he said he hasn't seen her or talked to her since Christmas up until his birthday. (Tuesday 20 June 2017; 01:51)

Re: Lionel new Idol judge (76,430) (76,432) by Licia from USA What? He has to have monitored visits? (Tuesday 20 June 2017; 01:24)

Too many fillers (76,431) by Jamie from UK The problem with Mariah is that she's lost all expression in her face due to too many fillers. I just watched behind the scenes of Don't Forget About Us and you can see there how natural she is, yes she'll have had Botox there but her face looked more fresh and had character. Now it's completely frozen and lacking any expression. Also her mood then was much happier, she just seemed more free. I'm sure she was on medication then too, but now she just seems out of it and regid and she seems to have lost her charm. It saddens me to see her like this, surely the old Mariah is in there somewhere and I'm not talking 1990, the last time she looked her best was 2008, I just wonder what has happened since then to change her whole persona. Surely she must want to be that person again? (Tuesday 20 June 2017; 00:35)

Re: Lionel new Idol judge (76,427) (76,430) by RibbonB from USA Prayers up for maturity. Lol I missed your earlier comment about Shawn having monitored visits with his auntie. Something is really wrong. (Tuesday 20 June 2017; 00:09)

Re: Lionel new Idol judge (76,426) (76,429) by RibbonB from USA Yes, Mariah and team have brought so much silly drama since the tour announcement. What could have been a positive professional moment has turned into a potential flop, or worse a fiasco. All she had to do was practice, record some new material while touring, instead they gave us tabloid fodder and one arguably terrible single with I Don't. (Monday 19 June 2017; 23:45)

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