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Mimi / Ribbon / Licia (74,273) by Lila from United States Thanks Mimi, I try. Licia you are not the only one, and Ribbon Anthony was so right but it's so mind blowing at the same. This pervasiveness within the fan base to eat up and believe every lie, and not even good lies but poorly thought out, obviously lying lies is mind blowing. I can't stop Mariah from doing the stupid things she does but it doesn't mean I have to fall for the stupidity either. I don't understand how they can let someone piss on their leg and then tell them it's raining. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 18:45)

Busta collab (74,272) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I wonder when it will be dropping. Mariah was under the impression it will drop late March, but since it's not her single, she probably doesn't know the details. They shot the video too, I hope it's coming soon. I love Busta, although I don't know how he's doing commercially at the moment, but I just want a hot song, that can be the summer anthem. They are playing it out to be IKWYW part 2 and I'm here for it, after all it kick started the return of the voice. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 18:30)

Edward (74,271) by Gabe from USA This guy has been a fan posting here since I can remember. He does have valid points and has followed Mariah's career to have an opinion. I agree with what you are saying and feeling. Sometimes I tell my friends and family if I can't defend or justify Mariah's behavior or actions then you know it's kinda not so good hopefully she will get new professional management. She has it in her to clean up this whole mess and give people a new memorable "era" the lambily deserves this and so does Mariah. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 18:27)

Re: Lets lay off Bryan haha (74,268) (74,270) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I hope you get the courage someday to come back with your original screen name. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 18:22)

Re: The Carey-Tanaka cynicism (74,267) (74,269) by MusicfanJ from Germany Yes Licia, completely agree with you. How "it" started makes me wonder too. It all reminds me of a bad soap opera. I also don't trust Bryan completely, because of the things that were already mentioned on this board. The thing with Mr. Packer was the weirdest for me and then right after that mess Mr. Tanaka showed his "love". Mariah seems to hate to be alone. I wish she would love herself enough to spend some time alone. And then let "real" people into her life/inner circle. Maybe one day. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 17:56)

Re: Lets lay off Bryan haha (74,264) (74,268) by Mort from Spain I hope you find true love someday. It must hurt beeing so negative. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 17:33)

Re: The Carey-Tanaka cynicism (74,263) (74,267) by Licia from USA I personally don't care about his looks, his age, or his job. If that is really who she wants then she should be with who makes her happy. I just don't believe this "relationship" is real for either him or Mariah. I hope I'm wrong because she deserves to be happy and even though I'm critical of it all I want that for her, but it just seems fake. I also don't like how this all started. She was engaged to another man, but she's bumping, grinding, and flirting with someone else on camera. I can't really be the only person who found something to be wrong with that? (Saturday 8 April 2017; 17:13)

Re: Lets lay off Bryan haha (74,258) (74,266) by RibbonB from USA Remember that is probably just Stella trying to sell her fiction and a wack MW DVD. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 16:44)

Re: One more thing (74,261) (74,265) by RibbonB from USA Exactly. I love that Anthony made that parting shot, that MW was a show created for dummies who believe whatever they want them to believe. Snakanaka is just getting his moment off of Mimi's dime. Thirstbot in action. Anyone who would actively contribute to Mariah's drinking, possible drugging and image muddying is not to be trusted. Stella is just a snake. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 16:42)

Re: Lets lay off Bryan haha (74,257) (74,264) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I'm having an "on the bathroom floor moment" Lila, preach girl, preach. I am surprised at how naive some people are or how they will do anything to make sense of something that doesn't make sense. I was actually going to write a similar post with similar points but you nailed it and came with the receipts. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 16:20)

The Carey-Tanaka cynicism (74,263) by Andrew from UK It is possible that people doubt Tanaka's love for Mariah because he is young and fit, and she is, well, not those things. Thus, it being all about the money is probably the thinking. When she met Nick Cannon she was fit and extremely attractive. Now, she is not so, so the logic falls by the wayside. But, maybe, just maybe, they get on. I can't imagine they have in-depth conversations about the Syrian crisis or the plight of the Amazonian rainforests but I'm sure they are on the same level somewhere on some other plain. In fact, on some other *plane*. It's only really flying around the world and dining out and getting drunk. Sounds like a f*cking riot to me. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 16:19)

The art of letting go of bad lyricism (74,262) by Andrew from UK That Mariah leaves her songs "open to interpretation" is logical. To then tell someone that what they think a song is about is not correct and that you alone have the insight is not. In respect of the lyric, "Got a bundle of your possessions outside the kitchen window right now" the only poetic meaning I can attach to this would be that 1. Mariah is trivialising the quantity/quality of the possessions of the person she is ejecting from the home (that is to say, he didn't bring much in the first place), and, 2. she is flipping a symbol of female subjugation in its head (here, the "kitchen") and aligning it with a story of positive self-empowerment (that is to say, the "weak woman" just realised it is not she who is the weak one). This would suggest the song is about pseudo-macho Nick "my wife" Cannon. Yet, I may just be attaching a deep meaning to otherwise lazy lyrics designed, alongside others in Mariah's recent catalogue, to make her sound fun, cool and relevant, instead of universal, or as she unendingly states, "schmaltzy". And, anyway, who cares who Mariah's lyrics are about? It doesn't really help her sell records as people dont really buy into her woe-is-me narrative anymore. Indeed, the fact that the song might be about Nick Cannon makes me like it a lot less immediately, even. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 16:01)

One more thing (74,261) by Lila from United States Yes, Bryan has been around for a little while now. However, again, I don't know if some have been on another planet or living under rocks but he's been doing nothing that's any different from the rest of the current circus and we've still got the same nonsense that we've been getting. Any fan has to be living in a dream world if they think that this man is of any help to Mariah. The past two years have shown that anyone who doesn't kiss Mariah's ass, act like she can do no wrong, or is a threat to the current status quo, head Leech or Leech co. don't last long. Most recently, Danielle and Anthony, both with horrible stories following their departures. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 14:41)

Re: Benny Medina (74,253) (74,260) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Your last sentence must have caused a "clutching pearls" moment among the "real lambs". Edward is a G.O.A.T. (Greatest of All Time). (Saturday 8 April 2017; 14:34)

Re: Lets lay off Bryan haha (74,256) (74,259) by MusicfanJ from Germany I think Bryan deserves a chance as long as he's good for Mariah. I mean to say he has a bad character only because he's good-looking, young and a dancer that's also superficial and not fair. I think he's not the one who's destroying her image. He seems to be a nice and funny person. The "Russian clan" is what still worries me. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 14:24)

Re: Lets lay off Bryan haha (74,254) (74,258) by Lila from United States Do you or anyone else know him personally to tell me that I'm wrong? I know what I'm seeing and speaking on it. I, quite frankly, could care less if that makes you or anyone else on this board or anyone anywhere else see me as judgmental. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 14:20)

Re: Lets lay off Bryan haha (74,256) (74,257) by Lila from United States Research on him and their "relationship"? Yeah right. I'm not taking a stab in the dark about anything. The facts are staring me right in my face. 1) If he's the only "good thing" you can see in Mariah's life right now, then you need to get your eyes fixed because Monroe and Moroccan Scott Cannon hold that title. 2) If he took his career so seriously, his ass would be out working, not following Mariah from point A to point B. He has time to snap himself on every vacation but you don't see hide nor hair of anything that could point towards him earning a living from dance. 3) Mariah's love of him being her dumbass in crime is not the same as her loving him or being so happy. I guess some must be falling for Mariah's Mariah's World alternative facts. Yes, let's look over their relationship last year to this one. She gave him a weak ass lap dance and was grinding on him while wearing another man's engagement ring and still is. Then, when news broke that James dumped her and I'm going to assume she tried calling him and found her number was blocked or going to voicemail, so that statement to the press about working things out was useless, then we got the uprising of Bryan. Mariah could've broken up with Packer at any time to get with Bryan, if she was so in love with him, but she didn't. She still wears the ring he gave her that symbolizes their would be union and though I've had my thoughts about that "relationship" the ring itself still symbolizes that. Some love and respect she has for him. He can't be blind to any of this. 4) Of course Mariah looks happy in pictures. She didn't call the paparazzi up (no paps don't magically know where celebrities are, the celebs call them) to look sad. In many pictures their body language says celebrity and the guy paid to escort her to the car and in most cases his level of excitement looks a lot higher than hers does. In fact, I think Bryan makes Mariah happy. I just know it's on the same level that Stella and every other kiss ass makes her happy. She needs an ego stroke and he's one of many that fits the bill. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 14:12)

Re: Lets lay off Bryan haha (74,251) (74,256) by tracey from australia Bryan is the only good thing I can see in Mariah's life right now, have you seen her smile when she is with him? if you done any research on him at all you would realise he is a beautiful humble man who takes care of his family and friends and takes his career seriously and I truely don't believe he is in it for anything other than love. Do some research on him and their relationship for the last year, then get back with your opinion as it think it may be a little different than taking a stab in the dark about him and just being judgemental because of who he is dating. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 11:37)

Re: The Art of Letting Go conversation (74,246) (74,255) by Terna from Nigeria Eduoard you made me chuckle "The Art of Letting Go" is not about Nick Cannon at all. It's about Tommy and maybe her siblings. That line "bundle all your possessions outside the kitchen window" I feel is used as a figuratively. The word "possessions" could mean traits or insecurities she got as a result of her time with Tommy, being dominated and not being able to be herself, her trust issues, feeling she has a good side etc. All that stems from Tommy, he's the common denominator. So it's the process of letting of all that which she sings isn't easy. Mariah is such a master songwriter she leaves it open for interpretation and application to our lives. To me, that song is the most important song she's every written. It came from a different place. It's real, it's raw and very relatable. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 10:22)

Re: Lets lay off Bryan haha (74,251) (74,254) by Mort from Spain So you know him to write so bad about him? So judgementful. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 09:09)

Re: Benny Medina (74,249) (74,253) by Edward from USA Stella, Tommy and Sony made Celine the international star that she is. René was instrumental in her success making sure she always had the best, something you don't do for Mariah. He was an exceptional manager, but no matter how good your manager is, without the label's muscle behind it to support the singer, there's no career. There are many artist more and less talented than Mariah that never made it because they didn't find a visionary like Tommy or Clive Davis who believed in them. Mottola was the architect of Celine's and Mariah's careers, whether you like it or not. During his 15-year tenure, Mottola built Sony up from a company with revenues of $800 million a year to one with over $6 billion of annual revenue by the year 2000, and that wasn't just by being just a manager. René Angélil was the best manager any artist could have. He made sure Celine always had access to the best, and Celine obviously listened to him, but without Tommy and Sony behind her, she wouldn't be who she is today. Look where you have Mariah's career in the toilet, giving the middle finger and touching herself is if she were an extra in a 2 Chainz's video. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 03:39)

Re: Todd from Australia (74,228) (74,252) by Todd from Melbourne, Australia If you get Shortland Street over there then I'm due another pay check. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 03:09)

Re: Lets lay off Bryan haha (74,247) (74,251) by Lila from United States He's another idiot that kisses her ass and lives off her dime, which Mariah loves for anyone to do. It's not as if he's going to say anything to her that goes against the grain. There's nothing for Mariah to not smile about. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 01:34)

Re: Lets lay off Bryan haha (74,247) (74,250) by Edouard from France I so agree. Who are we to judge? He actually seems to be a cool, down to earth guy. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 01:02)

Re: Benny Medina (74,248) (74,249) by Edouard from France Wait a minute. René Angelil and Céline Dion both worked very hard to make her a star. Tommy Mottola didn't make Céline a star. (Saturday 8 April 2017; 01:01)

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