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Re: This is why Mariah is still wearing the ring (68,030) (68,033) by May from Denmark What can James possibly get out of this planted story? It doesn't even sound like something he would allow to do. He is a very private guy. TMZ while not retracted the article about the prenup it has updated, in very small letters at the end of the article, that Packer denies the things said in the prenup. Paraphrasing because I don't recall the exact words but you can check it. I'm guessing TMZ (and the DailyFail) are not putting them down because is giving them clicks and comments. Here is the thing. The only confirmation we got is from Mariah camp that they argued and are trying to work it out and from Packer's camp that the prenup is untrue. That's it. The rest is gossip, rumors, speculations. (Sunday 6 November 2016; 12:25)

Re: This is why Mariah is still wearing the ring (68,030) (68,032) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter The first statement had no mention of Tanaka. It said "excessive spending and Packer's unwillingness to be a part of the show". The rumors about Tanaka started with the "James is mentally unstable, he has been for a while and at one point he even took Bryan to the side and told him to stay away. He also got Caesar's to ban him." Also as far as I know, Bryan is no longer the creative director. Anthony Burrell came back few months back and has since taken over. He announced it via Instagram if I'm not wrong. Aside from that, I'd like to know if your post is a theory or is their a source? Genuine question, because if I think along the lines of your theory it sounds believable. However like I mentioned, there are some inconsistencies but then again I might be wrong. So yes is there a source? (Sunday 6 November 2016; 11:12)

Re: TMZ prenup article (68,027) (68,031) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Same reason why she is dragging Bryan along with her outside every night and calling the paparazzi while also flaunting the ring on her middle finger knowing it would be photographed. Also same reason why she allowed Bryan to release those unflattering videos of them being cozy and then him wearing her robe. I don't know what the reason is but it's quite upsetting to see these being public and her team not doing anything about it and instead putting more fuel on the flames. Think about it, couldn't all these have been kept private? Didn't we read more about Mariah's 1 and a half year relationship with James than her multi year marriage to Nick? Then look at the amount of publicity this breakup is getting while we got zero peep in her divorce with Nick. I think all this is a ploy to get people to tune in to the show. Which is sad because she would have gotten viewers eitherways. I mean remember the special she did for MIAM? Where she did interviews and performed some of the songs? She got around 3.5 million viewers even though it wasn't promoted at all (like the rest of MIAM). Her Christmas special also got so many viewers. Mariah's World would have gotten the same. But they thought unleashing Kardashian style drama would be a better move. (Sunday 6 November 2016; 11:06)

This is why Mariah is still wearing the ring (68,030) by Nikki from usa I went through all the actual statements on this breakup stuff for the past 2 days and it explains why Mariah isn't removing the ring. We don't know about "problems" they've had in the past or how they've been handled. But, this is the current story: Mariah and Packer had a fight in Greece. They hadn't seen each other since, but set aside a time to meet up and discuss things. Packer blew it off at the last minute and said he couldn't do it then. Soon after, Women's Day, was the first publication to state they broke up claiming Packer dumped Mariah amidst rumors of overspending, and reports of Mariah's "backup dancer". The story seems to be planted by Packer's people. Gossip everywhere caught on like wildfire. Mariah didn't think anything of it at first, which is why Stella commented on the fight. Mariah was still waiting for a meet up and hasn't been able to get him to return calls, so now she's thinking this engagement off story is true. There's no closure and Mariah's still not sure what to expect since they have yet to talk since their fight, apparently, she had originally assumed it was a spat and they would be getting back together. Just a side note - Mariah and her team know who Bryan Tanaka is and I doubt they would be reporting him as her "back up dancer" or refuse to use his name. He's her choreographer and lead. As long as she still has her residency and shows to do he will be around as he has been for this past entire year since he was promoted. Mariah tends to treat her team like family and that's not going to change because now there's gossip. Mariah has never been out with just Tanaka. (Sunday 6 November 2016; 7:51)

Re: TMZ prenup article (68,024) (68,029) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter No no I know that, infact it would be dumb to marry without a pre-nup for those who have as much money as these two. I remember thinking that Mariah got married to Nick without a prenup and so that would be foolish but turns out they had a clear cut one. My point is that it is unlikely that James would lead those details because it shows him in a bad light especially with "Mariah is responsible for buying things for her kids" and some other details. Infact there are pre-nups more iron clad than this and all but obviously the parties involved, especially the one who is drafting it, won't want it leaked. If anything either TMZ got ahold of it (which is unlikely too because it wasn't public record and they never signed it) or someone from inside these 2 camps did it. So it is possible (in my opinion) that Stella thought this would be a good move to show how controlling James is. But at the end of the day it makes Mariah look foolish yet again. (Sunday 6 November 2016; 5:02)

Re: Comment on Daily Mail (68,011) (68,028) by Malcolm from Asia Patricia might have short comings but I still think that she can help Mariah because in times of this, Mariah needs a familiar face from her life, someone that knows her well. At the end of the day, she is her mother, just the presence of her will help Mariah and of course with the help of professionals that can guide her all through out. (Sunday 6 November 2016; 4:38)

Re: TMZ prenup article (68,020) (68,027) by B from USA Why would Mariah allow Stella to release stories that paint her in such an unflattering way. Every story since the initial split broke has painted her as a greedy gold digger looking for a payday. I don't understand what the end goal of any of this was or is. Unless it's a storyline of Mariah's World. Mariah should have kept her private live private which was believed to be why her marriage with Nick failed. (Sunday 6 November 2016; 3:16)

Chris Rock comedy on prenups (68,026) by RibbonB from USA Lol this is the cleanest version. I think it's funny, but comedians are coldblooded and brutal with their jokes. Well, some of the best ones are. The longer version is full of cussing and discusses the OJ case. (Sunday 6 November 2016; 2:54)

Scientology dude (68,025) by RibbonB from USA So it turns out Scientology Tommy was at the same Ratpac party as Mimi when she had to leather boobs out outfit on. Here she is with the ambassador or whomever the guy in the middle is. Supposedly Scientology dude was there to spy on Brett and Mariah. I am sure Mariah was never going to marry a guy with Scientology ties and almost equally positive that JP had no real intention of marrying someone he could not control or bring into the fold. Ick, what a mess. (Sunday 6 November 2016; 1:57)

Re: TMZ prenup article (68,020) (68,024) by RibbonB from USA But all prenups are contracts and spell things out in detail. There is nothing bad per se about there being one, or that it spells things out in detail, it just looks bad to know what those details are. Chris Rock's prenup allowed for like a million per year up to the tenth year, then all bets were off, if I remember correctly. They are just contracts. M. should have just kept her private for the court because she usually gets ripped up in the court of public opinion. But any person with a lot of money had better get one. The specifics of his were a little tacky, if she actually said that and if the prenup is really the one he had drafted. If she had actually gone through the fake marriage ceremony that would have been her only marital rights. I think dude got cold feet as the prospect became all too real after Nick signed those papers. Either that, or they were never going down the aisle to begin with. End of first act, onto the second act of the reality show. (Sunday 6 November 2016; 1:48)

Re: TMZ prenup article (68,020) (68,023) by Lila from United States I agree. I don't get what people are seeing that Packer gains from any of these stories. He's the one looking like the bad guy. The prenup definitely makes it look like Packer wanted a paid partnership. Also, I'm not going to act like an expert on prenups, and I know people who have them love to be detailed and cover all bases but some of this stuff sounds downright petty. If these stories and emails are to be believed, I have to agree with a comment I saw on TMZ, and that's that Packer's lawyers saw Mariah as a gold digger. Did it really need to be specified that Mariah would buy the kids clothes? She and Nick have been going all out for Moroccan and Monroe since before they were even conceived. It sounds, to me, like some stuff you'd put in black and white when you're dealing with a person who you think will try to take advantage from day one. Overall, these stories seem to me to be Stella's stupid way of trying to make Mariah look like a victim. It isn't working though. Most people are sympathizing with Packer from what I can see or they think they're both twits. I really, really, really, really, really, really, really wish she'd take that ring off. I always thought it was an eyesore, anyway, and at this point, I think it's pretty clear that the relationship is over, not fake drama for the reality tv show, and it just makes her look like she really was just after his money. This isn't a good look. (Sunday 6 November 2016; 0:44)

Article: Mariah called proposed prenup "tacky and insulting" (68,022) by Robin Elkins from United States Mariah doesn't use credit cards. (Saturday 5 November 2016; 23:31)

Re: TMZ prenup article (68,015) (68,020) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter It probably isn't Packer because it makes him look bad that he basically wanted a paid partnership and that he didn't love her. Remember Packer did threat his team (according to the rumors and leaked emails) that he will go ahead and marry Mariah without the pre-nup because his team was taking time. Secondly suppose he did do it, I said it few days back, how long will he keep quiet when Stella and Mariah are leaking stories saying he is mentally unstable and implying he is abusive? Those are some pretty big claims. (Saturday 5 November 2016; 22:56)

Re: TMZ prenup article (68,015) (68,019) by THE TRUTH from USA Oh yeah, I'm sure. The same James Packer who used his own money to produce "Before The Flood"? He's a philanthropist in the truest sense of the word. If anything he did his best to stay out of the press and she and Stella know no bounds when it comes to chasing cheap, tacky, gold digging, look at me type publicity. (Saturday 5 November 2016; 22:26)

This is the real Mariah (68,018) by Natalia from Italy If it's true that Tommy forced Mariah to present herself modestly for the good of her career, then once she broke away from him she began dressing in very revealing way. That's the real Mariah coming out. If she fired all of her previous staff because they were doing their best to hide her possibly damaging behaviours to the world. Then she hires an all new staff that encourages and makes an effort to promote her damaging behaviours to the world. This is the real Mariah we are looking at now. She is probably tired of having to be fake, she wants to be herself, and it's not a good thing for her career. The Mariah from the past was just playing a role. She faked us all out by acting like she's so shy and soft spoken, total act. Now she's losing fans that she's had for decades. Fans who have stood by her, and defended her, when others were criticizing her. Most people think she's a gold digging spoiled rich diva. Nobody can relate to her, all we have left as fans is the "real" "classic" music from the past that keeps us clinging onto an artist who is nothing like she was even 6 years ago. I seriously doubt that we will ever get anymore "real" quality heartfelt music ever again. It's over. (Saturday 5 November 2016; 21:59)

Re: TMZ prenup article (68,009) (68,015) by B from USA I believe this insulting prenup is what caused the Greece event. She's Mariah [censored] Carey not Anna Nicole. Packer's team are most likely behind this and the conflicting insider stories that have been leaked, not Mariah and Stella. (Saturday 5 November 2016; 21:43)

Re: TMZ prenup article (68,009) (68,014) by RibbonB from USA I read that. First, Mariah's people or whomever, should not have released that information. As it was not signed or filed, then it would not be a matter of public record. The prenup is actually not that bad, it is specific and all of them are contracts which spell out financial terms, etc. She is entitled to keep the ring, if he broke off the engagement. Most wealthy couples have them in some form, especially when their is an income disparity. But, the release of that information at this time is contributing to Mariah looking bad, but most of what's been coming out these past several months have seemed designed to make her look bad. I don't get the strategy at all and it's very sad. When she was asked about the reality show she said she is "very excited and in a quandary all at the same time", which is also very sad. Unless there is some big planned dramatic ending to this whole thing, then it's just a mess and I hope she and her career survive it all. (Saturday 5 November 2016; 20:53)

Re: Mariah's arm injury (68,007) (68,013) by THE TRUTH from USA Looks to me like Morgan is doing fine, in fact he stayed out of the public eye for like 25 years. I think he just realized it was best to get he and his beautiful wife as far away from the madness as possible. They look pretty happy. (Saturday 5 November 2016; 20:47)

Longer interview (68,012) by RibbonB from USA This interview is longer and even better. (Saturday 5 November 2016; 17:49)

Re: Comment on Daily Mail (67,999) (68,011) by RibbonB from USA I don't know what happened with her mother, but she has been absent since M. started going through this divorce, I still say, she needs to go back and really embrace and focus on her faith as that is what has seemed to carry her through. But then she would need to stop reflect inward vs. this public display of wealth and unease. At least she is talking about music these past few days and in the Canada interviews she allegedly banned any personal questions, except about the kids. Smartest thing she has done lately. (Saturday 5 November 2016; 16:51)

Re: What if MC finally goes on Wendy? (67,998) (68,010) by RibbonB from USA I actually think this appearance is going to happen. Any other time I would have said wrong move Mariah, but in this year of ultra wrong moves, IMO this can be a very right move. Messy yes, but probably very celebratory. (Saturday 5 November 2016; 16:45)

TMZ prenup article (68,009) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Did you all read the prenup details TMZ got a hold of? Here is the link. Gosh this will be one of the nastiest break ups ever. People are calling Mariah the "P" word (in case you're wondering, it's Alison's profession) along with calling her a gold digger and questioning why she would even want to take his money and that she's only materialistic. I don't know why her team isn't doing anything to stop these. Mariah's image has never been this bad. People may have questioned her recent singing ability, they may have questioned her sanity, they may have questioned other things, but no one ever questioned the fact that Mariah is a self made independent multi-millionaire. Now we have these stories and she is out there trying to ruffle more feathers by taking Bryan everywhere and then wearing the ring like that knowing the cameras are going to capture it. If they did break up she should have stopped wearing it for a while if she didn't want to return it because now it makes her look bad. (Saturday 5 November 2016; 15:36)

I so don't agree (68,008) by Edouard from France True it's not her best performance ever but think about it: no backup singers, no tralala, no décor, only her. She's singing all the difficult parts full voice with no warming up. She's singing outside in the cold. She's lipsyncing the breathy parts because this type of vocals require a more intimate approach vocally and this type of show don't provide this environnement. She's actually singing and clearly having fun. All the difficult parts are sung and she even harmonizes with the long note at the end of AIWFCIY. She did a good job considering how last minute, and clearly unrehearsed this performance was. Also I should ad that she's going for the belted notes with no warming up, no vocal builtup since she's lipsyncing the breathy parts. (Saturday 5 November 2016; 15:32)

Re: Mariah's arm injury (68,001) (68,007) by Lila from United States Patricia is the reason why Mariah is the way she is. Mariah has never gone into great detail in one sitting but the details she's given, over the years, of her childhood and upbringing has painted a decent picture. So, does the fact that 3/3 children turned out disastrous, and yes I include Mariah in that because despite career success her emotional state is another story. (Saturday 5 November 2016; 15:01)

Re: Mariah's arm injury (68,001) (68,006) by Lara from Middle East We had a discussion about her arm appearance because some thought it was cellulite. On this recent it is more evident. Yes I think it is probably from her arm injury and she has some muscle loss over there. Maybe that would explain also why her level of fitness got bad, probably she's not allowed to train as she should. And getting close to menopause (if not already there) could explain her bloating. (Saturday 5 November 2016; 14:23)

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