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Re: I find it funny (62,133) (62,138) by darrian liu from taiwan
Most would gasp for air singing Never Too Far, Lead The Way, Butterfly, Emotions (and this list goes on and on). This is actually a true testament of how amazing Mariah is as a vocalist.
(Saturday 14 May 2016; 13:43)
Re: I find it funny (62,128) (62,137) by darrian liu from taiwan
I agree 100% with your post. Maybe that is the key to her to actually be more respected as a live performer (not that she isn't respected, but many have really doubted her live performances, even mocking her performances). We've already said this so many times but she really needs to adjust and accept that her voice isn't her 90s voice anymore. Hell, it isn't even her 2010 voice. She needs to tailor future songs to really suit her voice's current character, strengths and limitations. Mariah's voice really deserve to be studied as it is unlike other singers' voice, who generally mature and become more rich in quality as time passes but still retain most of their original character. With Mariah, you can separate each era of her career by only listening to her voice because each era's vocals have many subtle differences. Even in her prime her voice evolves with each era.
(Saturday 14 May 2016; 13:39)
Re: Wil.I.am and The Voice (62,117) (62,136) by Martyn from England, UK
Yeah, your'e right Licia. After a contestant sang a Mariah song his exact words were "I bet Mariah wishes she could sing it like that, if Mariah Carey heard you sing, she’d be like 'Dang, I wish I could sing like that still'." Disappointing really as I've always thought will.i.am is incredibly talented, even if his music isn't everyone's cup of tea. He's certainly not the sort of person I would expect to throw others under the bus anyway.
(Saturday 14 May 2016; 12:42)
Christina Aguilera's vocals have changed (62,135) by Sheila from United States
Christina can hide behind that raspy screaming all she wants, but have you noticed when she does her "charity" performances of Beautiful, she stays low alot. She only goes to the belting at the end, and most performances now, she goes low and throaty and rarely goes for those super high notes. Vocals change with age we need to accept that Mariah's voice has changed, it's more soulful and more human now.
(Saturday 14 May 2016; 12:24)
Re: Lost? (62,097) (62,134) by Giovanni from USA
1. "Anytime you need a friend"
2. "Vision of love"
3. "There's got to be a way"
4. "Make it happen"
5. "Fly like a bird"
(Saturday 14 May 2016; 10:15)
Re: I find it funny (62,112) (62,133) by Giovanni from USA
Not you again. Whitney's voice was shot by '95. And was in no way stronger lol. She ruined her voice with smoking and by other things I care not to mention. And Beyonce is not a good example either. Her songs are not hard to sing at all. The only one I consider a challenge would be "Love on top". But that's about it. Let her or any other singer today try and sing "If it's over" and their vocal cords would be destroyed for life. I'm not making excuses I'm stating facts.
(Saturday 14 May 2016; 10:12)
Re: I find it funny (62,110) (62,132) by Giovanni from USA
I completely agree. Christina is a perfect example. When she first came out with her debut album her voice was fresh and beautiful. But she damaged her voice by not having proper technique and by pushing it to the limit. She obviously was trying to give Mariah competition by mimicking her in many ways. For instance, trying to master the whistle register which she cleary never had. People definitely need to give it a rest.
(Saturday 14 May 2016; 9:57)
Mariah Carey upcoming TV appearances (62,131) by Travon..SweetSweetFantasy from USA
I have Directv Genie and I can see shows a week in advance before press. Mariah Carey is scheduled for Extra and Entertainment Tonight on May 16. Watch What Happens on May 17 and Access Hollywood on May 19. They are also doing a repeat of MTV Cribs Priciest Pads countdown on May 20 on MTV. I am expecting she is promoting Vegas and Mariah's World.
(Saturday 14 May 2016; 7:47)
Article: The time I had lunch with Mariah Carey (62,130) by AJ Forever from USA
I love you Mariah. I love the song Infinity too. "Could it be that you just found the best you've ever had?"
(Saturday 14 May 2016; 7:08)
Stay in the Middle by Hill (62,129) by Paul from Usa
Maybe I'm just late to the party but I looked up MC on IMDB. And saw she was featured in this video. In the first 15 seconds. I wonder why? Anybody else think it's a bit odd?
(Saturday 14 May 2016; 6:04)
Re: I find it funny (62,112) (62,128) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
When it comes to Mariah's vocal decline, I believe it's unfair to compare her to singers such as Whitney or Celine, or anyone for that matter. Individual differences exist. First, Whitney and Celine were absolute belters (not the one-night-only kindbut marathon belters) and yes, more than Mariah has ever been. While Mariah was a belter for a certain period in her career, the way she "toured" in the 90s showed just how her voice wasn't meant to withstand the rigors of touring. She didn't do it because she knew the limitations of her voice. Her strength has never lied in her lung power. It was in her expansive range, her ability to play with vocal textures and her knack for songwriting. Sure, at her prime, she could belt as well or maybe even outbelt the rest of them, but not as often as them. Her voice has changed due to a lot of things she did wrong that she may or may not have known and that she may or may not have any control over. She could have laid off the drinks, but if fun for her at parties meant having alcohol in the mix, then she would not have enjoyed her freedom from Tommy as much. She could have taken her time and done less to avoid the stress, but if she did that in the 90s then we probably woudn't have as many songs to enjoy. She could have asked for professional help vocally, but then her mom's a vocal coach and who are we to know and say that she hasn't ever consulted anyone. She could have scaled back on the money notes, but then we wouldn't enjoy her songs as much if she had. She could've gotten surgery for her nodules, but when you have built your entire career on your voice, you'd naturally be scared of how yours may turn out like Julie Andrews' despite success stories from the likes of Adele and John Mayer. Her voice could have gotten stronger through constant touring just like Beyoncé or it may not have depending on her actual vocal stamina and tolerance for constant vocal stress, not to mention the actual effect aging has on her voice (even Janet Jackson, who has practically mumbled, whimpered and cooed throughout her career, sounds different in Unbreakable from how she did in All For You, and even much more in Control). So yeah, the vocal change does depend on a myriad of factors. The one thing that Mariah has yet to learn, though, is how to adapt to those changes studio-wise, so that her newer material won't be as hard to replicate live. Because even though her vocal decline is possibly the most mocked and most unofficially documented in mainstream music history, the irony is that despite all of that, people still expect her to perform live like she does on her studio recordings, if not better like she did in the early-mid 90s. If she takes live performance in consideration when composing new material, she won't have to rely on playback as much, and we wouldn't have to hear practically the same setlist every time. She could actually perform her newer songs live (unlike Cry. or Supernatural which were pretty much mimed the whole way through during TES). Still, let us give credit where it's due - she's shown a lot of improvement during the SSFT. It's not CB Tour great, but it's definitely something worth noting. I pray that shows on her next album which I hope will sound less strained than she did in MIAMTEC.
(Saturday 14 May 2016; 5:55)
Memoirs (62,127) by RibbonB from USA
People should note the definition of memoirs involves memories and moments of someone's life, not just from the last CD to the next. Thus Memoirs included happy and sad moments, of her life, or that people in general might experience, not just what she may have been experiencing during her marriage.
(Saturday 14 May 2016; 5:45)
Re: Lost? (62,097) (62,126) by Merr Hasenan from Malaysia
Breakdown, Almost Home, Butterfly, Crybaby and Fantasy. I got no proper reason on my sellection accept l listen to these songs almost everyday. I can't live without them I guess.
(Saturday 14 May 2016; 4:43)
Re: Memoirs, Rainbow and MIAMTEC (62,114) (62,125) by Dustbin from USA
I've heard "Help me make it through the night" from Tennessee. Anyone know where to buy it? Or download? Eeek. Beautiful song.
(Saturday 14 May 2016; 4:11)
Powers that be (62,124) by 123 from USA
I love everyone's lists. I've been revisiting some songs I haven't in a while because of it. I know some of these were kind of singles but they never got the full treatment like actually being sent for radio adds, video, and promotional performances.
Mariah Carey: Prisoner/All Alone in Love
Emotions: To Be Around You
Unplugged: If It's Over
Music Box: I've Been Thinking About You/Music Box
Merry Christmas: Miss You Most.
Daydream: Melt Away/Slipping Away
Butterfly: The Roof
Rainbow: Crybaby
Charmbracelet: You Know You Got Me/Clown
TEOM: So Lonely (One & Only Part II) feat Twista/Mine Again
E=MC2: For The Record/I Stay In Love
Memoirs: Betcha Gon Know/It's a Wrap/Angel's Cry
MCIIU: Christmas Time is in the air again
MIAM: YDKWTD/Faded/Meteorite
(Saturday 14 May 2016; 4:08)
Re: Cause and effect (62,111) (62,123) by Mara from United States
Haiji, I appreciate the time you put into this post. I enjoyed reading it and agree with a lot that you said. I can tell you are a big fan who followed Mariah or just understands where she may be coming from. I do believe a lot of what is going on and has been going on now, stems from the past. I also think Memoirs is literally just that. Like entries in a diary, even going back to a song as airy and "cute" as Candy Bling. The lyrics to that song could be about the boyfriend she had as far back as high school that passed away. When she mentions "thinkin' bout the 10th grade, thinkin' bout 11th and Heaven" we all have those moments where we think about our youth and past loves and crave for those times again. I had one of those moments last month and Candy Bling's lyrics fit perfectly even to the high school grade. Mariah is beyond talented and she can't fool me with the diva antics as all real fans know and can see through the real Mariah. I sometimes feel on this board especially that the older fans from her debut get looked at by the newer or younger fans as we are stuck in this "we need Mariah to be the way Mottola wanted her to be" and that's simply not true. I grew as a fan along with Mariah and was fortunate enough to experience all these eras live and I'm so happy I did. We were the ones who got to see Mariah evolve into who she is now. Were there eras we preferred or other ways we wanted her to go? Of course, but we will always support her and look forward to the music. Mariah always spoke to my soul and I can honestly say that no other artist has ever. So I really appreciate your post and can totally see where you are coming from, so thank you for taking the time to compose it. And here's looking towards the next era that I hope is around the corner. I am in desperate need of new MC lyrical gems.
(Saturday 14 May 2016; 4:08)
Re: I find it funny (62,112) (62,122) by darrian liu from taiwan
Don't forget about her nodules.
(Saturday 14 May 2016; 3:42)
Ribbon (62,121) by RibbonB from USA
I love Ribbon from Memoirs. That song is perfect from the two minutes point to the end. Amazing adlibs.
(Saturday 14 May 2016; 3:17)
Break up makeup re-up prenup (62,120) by RibbonB from USA
Mariah has been writing love songs, make up and break up songs since the beginning of her career and even before Tommy. People like to think these songs are all personal and chronological, but I highly doubt it. Mariah herself has given conflicting and convoluted information about her songs. Right now Mariah is doing the same with her personal life. I'm sure her next record people will be very confused. Is she referring to her husband, her fiance or then hired help Bryan or Anthony? What's most sad is she and her team think this is cute.
(Saturday 14 May 2016; 3:13)
Re: Lost? (62,097) (62,119) by Haiji Toro from USA, SOUTH FLORIDA
This was such a hard choice. I had to go through some extensive process of elimination. Here it is:
Love Takes Time - My all time favorite Mariah song.
Anytime You Need A Friend (C&C Club Version) - Gotta have a reason to dance away the hours.
All I Want For Christmas (Is You) - In case I'm still stranded during the holidays, I'm gonna need a festive song.
Outside - If this song helped me get through racism, homosexuality, bullying and family strife, then it'll get me through anything.
We Belong Together - This song came out during a very transitional stage in my life and then resurfaced into my life at a happier moment. Great memories. Important song for me. Her music is definitely the soundtrack to my life. In order for me to remember certain years in my past, I normally link her album to that year to remember. But that's actually the case with all music.
(Saturday 14 May 2016; 3:01)
Article: Is Nick Cannon purposely holding up his ex's wedding? (62,118) by Marissa from USA
I've asked this question here before that either got no or unclear responses, but is Mariah currently married to Nick or is she divorced? The reports have been so confusing. I thought that she had been divorced since 2014 or 2015. What is the deal?
(Saturday 14 May 2016; 2:38)
Wil.I.am and The Voice (62,117) by Licia from USA
That article has to be a joke right? If my memory serves me correctly didn't he make a joke about Mariah not having a voice anymore? Why would she even consider working anywhere near him? So you say she has no voice yet you want her to be a voice coach on the show that makes a lot of sense. Lol.
(Saturday 14 May 2016; 0:55)
Re: Memoirs, Rainbow and MIAMTEC (62,094) (62,114) by Tevin from USA
She did country with Help Me Make It Through The Night. And she did rock with Bringing On The Heartbreak, and a little bit in You Need Me, but that was like pop rock.
(Friday 13 May 2016; 23:54)
Re: Lost (62,113) by Ardis Logic from Earth
Emotions, Anytime You Need A Friend, Make It Happen, Fly Like A Bird, Heavenly.
(Friday 13 May 2016; 23:54)
Re: I find it funny (62,092) (62,112) by BIGGEST MC FAN from UNITED STATES
Stop making excuses for Mariah. She has barely toured in the 90s. She had 25 dates throughout the whole 90s. Do you know how many Whitney Houston had from 84-94? 431. Yes, 431. And her voice was just as strong and arguably even stronger. It's not normal for a singer's voice to decline after 6 years. It only gets stronger. Look at Beyonce for example. She has been touring and working nonstop since 1998 and her voice sounds the best today. Mariah's voice has declined starting from 97 because she stopped caring for it and started drinking a lot. That is why her vocals on "I Still Believe", "Rainbow", and everything afterwards sounds shot. She could have switched her style up and done different types of music that don't require the extensive use of her vocals. But she didn't. She continued forcing belts and they sound bad as a result. I'm not saying that this is all her fault. Tommy Motolla has damaged her mentally. But she dealt with her issues in a bad (drinking) way which reflected in her work.
(Friday 13 May 2016; 23:50)

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