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Re: Lost? (62,097) (62,119) by Haiji Toro from USA, SOUTH FLORIDA This was such a hard choice. I had to go through some extensive process of elimination. Here it is: Love Takes Time - My all time favorite Mariah song. Anytime You Need A Friend (C&C Club Version) - Gotta have a reason to dance away the hours. All I Want For Christmas (Is You) - In case I'm still stranded during the holidays, I'm gonna need a festive song. Outside - If this song helped me get through racism, homosexuality, bullying and family strife, then it'll get me through anything. We Belong Together - This song came out during a very transitional stage in my life and then resurfaced into my life at a happier moment. Great memories. Important song for me. Her music is definitely the soundtrack to my life. In order for me to remember certain years in my past, I normally link her album to that year to remember. But that's actually the case with all music. (Saturday 14 May 2016; 3:01)

Article: Is Nick Cannon purposely holding up his ex's wedding? (62,118) by Marissa from USA I've asked this question here before that either got no or unclear responses, but is Mariah currently married to Nick or is she divorced? The reports have been so confusing. I thought that she had been divorced since 2014 or 2015. What is the deal? (Saturday 14 May 2016; 2:38)

Wil.I.am and The Voice (62,117) by Licia from USA That article has to be a joke right? If my memory serves me correctly didn't he make a joke about Mariah not having a voice anymore? Why would she even consider working anywhere near him? So you say she has no voice yet you want her to be a voice coach on the show that makes a lot of sense. Lol. (Saturday 14 May 2016; 0:55)

Re: Memoirs, Rainbow and MIAMTEC (62,094) (62,114) by Tevin from USA She did country with Help Me Make It Through The Night. And she did rock with Bringing On The Heartbreak, and a little bit in You Need Me, but that was like pop rock. (Friday 13 May 2016; 23:54)

Re: Lost (62,113) by Ardis Logic from Earth Emotions, Anytime You Need A Friend, Make It Happen, Fly Like A Bird, Heavenly. (Friday 13 May 2016; 23:54)

Re: I find it funny (62,092) (62,112) by BIGGEST MC FAN from UNITED STATES Stop making excuses for Mariah. She has barely toured in the 90s. She had 25 dates throughout the whole 90s. Do you know how many Whitney Houston had from 84-94? 431. Yes, 431. And her voice was just as strong and arguably even stronger. It's not normal for a singer's voice to decline after 6 years. It only gets stronger. Look at Beyonce for example. She has been touring and working nonstop since 1998 and her voice sounds the best today. Mariah's voice has declined starting from 97 because she stopped caring for it and started drinking a lot. That is why her vocals on "I Still Believe", "Rainbow", and everything afterwards sounds shot. She could have switched her style up and done different types of music that don't require the extensive use of her vocals. But she didn't. She continued forcing belts and they sound bad as a result. I'm not saying that this is all her fault. Tommy Motolla has damaged her mentally. But she dealt with her issues in a bad (drinking) way which reflected in her work. (Friday 13 May 2016; 23:50)

Cause and effect (62,111) by Haiji Toro from USA, SOUTH FLORIDA In my observation with Mariah's life and career, I feel that the events and personal situations that took place from the beginning of her career could be the reason to the decisions and actions that led to where she's at mentally and emotionally in this present day. Her albums somewhat reflect those stages. Of course, her first album, to me, will be a classic. This was like her first child. The album that represents her planned, hard work. Except, she wasn't able to raise it on her own. Not that it was a bad thing for her career, seeing how well that album did. Unfortunately for her, she really didn't have control of anything pertaining to the business side, especially at those times. Which is what many of us go through at the beginning of our careers. We sometimes are put in a place where we have to sacrifice certain things in life to get good results. I feel that the Mariah we saw between Daydream and Butterfly years, was who she truly was at heart, musically driven, hard working, humble, but still naive to the business side. She wanted to be free to be herself but knew a lot was at stake, so she started making certain choices that were almost contradictory to her beliefs. It's like ying and yang, cause and effect. Sacrifice of image and personality, equaled more money and many hits, more fame. Butterfly was the birth of a woman that, at the time, wanted to be free but was still controlled to an extent, made to feel that with just her talent, she couldn't do it alone. Which I think is why her image became what it was. Still insecure, but resentful. So instead of just wanting to feel sexy and have full control, she subconsciously created a whole new persona. The sexier she dressed, the more she pissed the right people off, the more attention she got. Not realizing the person she became. Rainbow, to me, was basically her 2 week notice. At this point, All that Glitters was all that was on her mind. She needed to produce an album to get out of contract. I'm sure she worked hard on it, but I don't think she intended her best work and creativity to go into that specific album, hence the fillers, in my opinion. So at this point, having the world at her hands, dropping more hits, breaking more records, it didn't stop there. Her freedom was around the corner. We all get a bit ahead of ourselves when we feel invincible. Sometimes we let it get to our head and we forget what got us there. She worked so hard for what she thought was coming, but all the lights, glamour and glitter replaced the sweat, tears and sleep. And finally came Glitter. The hard work shows in the music and movie as well. I don't care what anyone says, you give me a few million to work on music and a movie, sacrificing my sleep and energy, just to make my dreams come true, and to prove the world I can do it on my own, I wouldn't turn that down. But even God rested on the 7th day. Not to come off offensive, but I feel that sometimes no matter where we are in life, and what we think is right for us, God will always remind us to humble ourselves and not take life for granted. Even if it means taking it all away, that light will shine on us. So now, finally resting, a clearer sense of reality, her humbleness kicks in. It reflects on Charmbracelet. Mentally and emotionally, that was her comeback. It was her second chance at once again proving herself in this industry. Relevancy and longevity was her focus at this point. In order to achieve that, and now having creative control, yet staying humble, she became smarter in the business. Music was her life. Hip hop was her drive. The streets took her in, finally accepting her roots. What corporate America and the suits disapproved of her musically, the streets embraced. Now working with new producers and having some freedom, it was time for her musical comeback. The Emancipation of Mimi. We saw a little more secure, creative and mature woman. It's like everything was falling into place. All she needed now to feel complete was a man who loved her, respected her views, and let her be who she wanted to be. Remember, fame, love and happiness all come with a price. To keep her fame going, the pressure for more hits was present. Similar to her album Emotions, E=MC2 was a rushed production. Almost like both were collections of left over tracks. No harm was done on either, giving both produced record breaking singles. The first being the first solo act to have 5 consecutive singles reach #1 and the latter breaking Elvis Presley's previous record, making her the only living act, only woman at that, to reach such fame. It couldn't get any better for her, but love finally showed up. She found someone that made her feel beautiful and young. We sometimes pray so much for true love and happiness, that when we get it, we no longer remember how we got it. Her new love is all she saw. She deserved to be happy. Unfortunately, the yang must play a part in that ying. The sacrifice of music and her humbleness took into effect. She had the fame she worked so hard for and the love she yearned for so long, she nothing else really mattered at this point. Now her goal was building a family. In order to start a new life, you must let go of your past. Her closure to that life was revealed in Memoirs. Although the actual title of that album should have been The Art of Letting Go. Memoirs was, in my opinion, spring cleaning. A transitional album. Like someone stated before, it sounded like one long song. I agree that production should have been broadened and diverse, yet cohesive, but at this point in her life and career, I think she had every right to make those decisions. Think about it, she went from having this dream so young, putting work to achieve it. Not realizing that in this industry, they all need a niche. What she saw as a blessing and outlet, the industry used as their money machine. We all know machines don't last forever. They either evolve as a product, get refined to extend their capabilities, or just become another antique item in the museum of life. Her machine has had its ware and tares, but continues to amazingly get refined. Wether we hear that sound live or not, it's her sound. Expecting her voice to be the same, is as expecting a child not to grow. Her present voice is the evolution of her machine. I'd rather hear that, then a soundless music box on display. Now, a new era, new pressures in music and business. That longevity she wants. Balancing a marriage and family. Life behind the scenes of perceptions of what we think we know. I'm sure it's too much to deal with. I believe that MIAMTEC was intended to be another shot to reclaim her position. Maybe deep down inside, like many of us fans/lambs, we wanted that best song of this decade and another 2 or 3 number 1 hits for her, but life happens and we learn to acceppt. Maybe this new marriage, management and label, is her Lemonade. What might seem bitter to us, might just be the right taste for others. I say just enjoy the drink "whilst" you can and if you don't like how it tastes, simply find another one. I'm sure I'll read about how long this story was, and maybe even get negative comments, maybe won't even get anything, and I'm OK with either case. I enjoyed writing this. Have an amazing day and God Bless. (Friday 13 May 2016; 23:08)

Re: I find it funny (62,092) (62,110) by Leito from USA Exactly. She didn't have a breakdown in 2001 for nothing. She's been working non-stop since she busted into the scenes. Tell me one 40+ year old singer (I'm talking about a real vocal singer) who sound as they did at 18-25 years old. Look at Christina A. She is a decade younger than Mariah. She doesn't sound the same, as she did in the first half of her career. People need to let that rest already. (Friday 13 May 2016; 21:57)

Re: Lost? (62,108) (62,109) by Travon..SweetSweetFantasy from USA Haha. I love that. Too funny. Mariah has so many "help me" songs. It took me 20 minutes trying to figure out my own question. Any other songs or just Bliss? (Friday 13 May 2016; 21:47)

Re: Lost? (62,107) (62,108) by Dustbin from USA Bliss for sure. Perhaps all the whistling would signal a rescue ship or a dolphin to come save me. (Friday 13 May 2016; 21:15)

Re: Lost? (62,097) (62,107) by Travon..SweetSweetFantasy from USA Oh I forgot. I needed to give my response to my own question. Please don't judge me. I am having several bleak moments. Haha. If I was stranded in the middle of nowhere, I would choose: Hero - To make it through the days and nights. We Belong Together - I would become sexually deprived being alone. Having fond memories of yearning for my lost lover would be ideal. Looking In - I wouldn't know how to deal. Dahlings. There's Got To Be A Way - To create my own nation with my body. Touch My Body - The creatures I despise crawling on me is bleakness to the extreme. I would need to think the things touching me are giving me secret rendezvous. (Friday 13 May 2016; 21:09)

Re: I find it funny (62,092) (62,106) by Tameka walker from United states I feel the exact same way. Mariah have been singing for years. So it is normal for her voice to suffer wear and tear. You have to think all of the tv appearances and concerts over the years plus back in the 90s she would put a album out every year. I still think she sounds incredible for to say she did all of that she should be complanted. I love her so much and I have my fingers crossed for new music. Let's go Mc let's go. (Friday 13 May 2016; 20:25)

Re: #Beautiful (62,050) (62,104) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End #Beautiful suffered not only because of M's physical injuries but also because her personal life really wasn't a happy one and she was a first time mother to two babies. Context is everything. But #Beautiful is interesting to me because it created a buzz around Mariah in the Swedish entertainment press that has lasted until today. It made several year end lists in 2013 with music journalists salivating at the mere thought of what would eventually be MIAMTEC and gets mentioned in almost every single (Swedish) SSFT concert review. That's a platinum song, yes, but it dropped 3 years ago and blasé music critics are still thirsty for it. I'm telling you all, Mariah needs to cater to the European market as much as she does the US. She could be dominating here again very easily. A lot more easily than in America IMHO. I'm gonna DM Stella and everyone on Team Mariah a list. This forum is too public or I would have already posted the list last year when I got it in my head. Nobody on MC's level has ever attempted to do what I am proposing. She's really the only superstar (alive) my plan suits. Anybody random couldn't do it even if the ideas are pretty simple and low intensity. And now it's the perfect time with how efficient and go-getter her team is. I don't know, but I could be right. These things make me squee. Anyway, Memoirs was a good effort IMO but the subject matters didn't mesh with what we thought we knew was her personal life at all (at the time). There was a disconnect. The only one since Glitter as far as I'm concerned and that was a soundtrack, so what can you do? We have historical context now, but back then it didn't really make creative sense that she's was writing about long lost love and breakups because of infidelities (?) when she was a newlywed. Not that everything a songwriter writes is literal but it was weird that Memoirs was at once her most nostalgic and prosaic to the point of cynical where her lyrics about love were concerned up til then. On E=MC2 it was the very different, she had a light and hopeful take on romantic love. I wouldn't have known she was married, happy and in love with her soulmate trying for a baby, listening to the Memoirs album. Obviously she wasn't, but neither she nor the public knew that then. Memoirs only makes sense after MIAMTEC as a prelude IMHO. And that's sad to think about too long. (Friday 13 May 2016; 20:21)

Re: I've missed you (61,735) (61,740) (62,103) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End First off: Hey Boo, it's been like a century but it's great to see a familiar face on MCA. I purposely avoided posting here and even lurking because the Mariah bashing can be so toxic on here and I knew I wanted my Sweet Sweet Fantasy Tour experience to be unsullied. It was the best choice I could have made because I now have memories for life I have shared with real lambs. It was refreshing to not have to defend her to anyone I met because we were all actual fans of her voice, music, lyrics and personality. Not once did someone lie and say she didn't sing live. Or that she didn't look the best she ever has and her entire entourage is all-star. Thanks for the shout out B. (Friday 13 May 2016; 20:03)

Re: The powers that be (62,058) (62,102) by Warrior Butterfly from USA Mariah Carey - Alone In Love Emotions - You're So Cold Musicbox - Never Forget You (Radio Edit) Merry Christmas - Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) Daydream - Melt Away Butterfly - Fly Away (Butterfly Reprise) Rainbow - After Tonight Glitter - If We Charmbracelet- Subtle Invitation TEOM - Mine Again E=MC2 - O.O.C. MOAIA - Standing O MCIIY - O Little Town of Bethlehem MIAMTEC - Make It Look Good (Friday 13 May 2016; 19:11)

Re: The powers that be (62,101) by Billy from England, UK Mariah Carey - I Don't Wanna Cry Emotions - Till The End Of Time Music box - Any Time You Need A Friend Daydream - When I Saw You Butterfly - Whenever You call Rainbow - After Tonight Charmbracelet - Yours TEOM - I Wish You Knew E=MC2 - For The Record MOIA - Ribbon MIAM - Money (Friday 13 May 2016; 19:06)

Doc-u-series (62,100) by Zac Mills from United States I wonder when it will air and if we will find out a date soon. I think it sounds like the tour will take Mariah to Brazil in Octpber as this was confirmed by one of her dancers on twitter. Sad there were no pictures of Mariah and her mom on Mothers Day. It would appear they are not as close but we are on the outside so we don't know anything that goes on in Mariah's world. The picture of Mariah from the Daily Mail shows her holding hands with Brian Tanaka's mom though and that is a little bizarre. He is the dancer in the infamous lap dance. He has a video on snapchat of him and his mom on what appears to be Mariah's California property but no sign of James. Maybe Mariah is going down the JLo route with a dancer. Only kidding. This board needs to lighten up a bit. Its been way too tense in here. I have been an avid reader of the MCA's for a long time and thought I would join and post finally. I wonder if we will see all these behind the scenes things on the doc-u-series. Mimi L I adore your posts and how you always put up to date pics and such. Do you have a twitter or FB account? It would be nice to see or follow some of you guys off MCA. (Friday 13 May 2016; 19:03)

Re: Memoirs, Rainbow and MIAMTEC (62,080) (62,099) by darrian liu from taiwan Although she does experiment from time to time, there are still many genres that she hasn't touched but surely could spin gold out of them. EDM is actually one of those genres. Mariah has never experimented with EDM (Meteorite wasn't EDM, it was disco pop) and I'm sure she could make something good from it. She also hasn't recorded any full-blown jazz song as well although she's dipped into those territories live from time to time. I think it's time for Mariah to get back into the lab, mix genres together and create something she will be remembered for again, like what she did with the Fantasy Bad Boy Remix. I don't think Help Me Make It Through The Night and Right To Dream are country enough to be considered as Mariah's forays into country (they're great songs btw). The pop ballad side of them still shines more, although there are some country influences to them. They sound like Tori Kelly's acoustic ballads, which are of course pop soul ballads. I would consider Mariah having a country song if she does something like Beyoncé's Daddy Lessons, a song that is undeniably country, not just a pop ballad with country influences. (Friday 13 May 2016; 18:46)

Re: The powers that be (62,098) by Jeff from USA Mariah Carey: Prisoner Emotions: And You Don't Remember Music Box: All I've Ever Wanted Merry Christmas: Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) Daydream: Melt Away Butterfly: Close My Eyes Rainbow: X-Girlfriend Glitter: I Didn't Mean to Turn You On Charmbracelet: Yours TEOM: Stay the Night E=MC2: Side Effects MOAIA: Inseparable MCIIY: O Holy Night (Live Version) MIAMTEC: Cry (Friday 13 May 2016; 17:55)

Lost? (62,097) by Travon..SweetSweetFantasy from USA If you got stranded on an island or a roadless uninhabited land and could only bring 5 Mariah songs with you, what would they be? (Friday 13 May 2016; 17:35)

Re: The powers that be (62,091) (62,096) by Licia from USA Mariah Carey: Alone in Love Emotions: If It's Over Music Box: All I've Ever Wanted Merry Christmas: Santa Claus is Coming to Town Daydream: Melt Away Butterfly: Babydoll Rainbow: Bliss Glitter: I Didn't Mean to Turn You On Charmbracelet: Yours TEOM: One and Only E=MC2: Last Kiss MOAIA: The Impossible MCIIY: Here Comes Santa Claus MIAMTEC: Faded, Faded, and Faded again lol (Friday 13 May 2016; 16:36)

Re: The powers that be (62,083) (62,095) by Jhonny from Guyana Mariah Carey: Alone in love Emotions: And you don't remember / So blessed Music Box: All I'v ever wanted Daydream: I am free / When I saw you / Melt away Butterfly: Close my eyes / The beautiful ones Rainbow: How much Glitter: I didn't mean to turn you on Charmbracelet: Subtle invitation TEOM: I wish you knew E=MC: Thanx for nothin / Cruise control / Side effects MOAIA: It's a wrap MIAMTEC: Meteorite / Migrate (Friday 13 May 2016; 15:54)

Re: Memoirs, Rainbow and MIAMTEC (62,080) (62,094) by Andrew from UK Randy, to say that Mariah has done rock and country etc is a little misleading. It suggests she's eclectic as a musician and she isn't. I wouldn't say Mariah has "done reggae" because of Cruise Control. Mariah needs to focus on dance and make an upbeat record feat. the likes of YDKWTD and Meteorite. It's odd for lambs to bleat that "she's making the music she wants to make" but in the next breath day how these songs are the best and so refreshing etc. Taylor and Rihanna sit on top of the charts because their music sounds current and fits the trends. Mariah used to do this. Rainbow sounded really current in 99/00 (with awful singles choices again - who on earth thought anyone would listen to the cheesy named "Mariah's Theme" on the radio or watch that cheese video on TV?) but Glitter and Charmbracelet didn't belong on the charts and so she disappeared. The same happened with Memoirs. It was a kiss goodbye to popularity. I'm shocked you like those albums. But you like Right To Dream don't you? And that is as soporific as Mariah gets. (Friday 13 May 2016; 14:37)

Catalog (62,093) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) As a fan forever, I can say Mariah has provided an everlasting soundtrack for so many people. Out of all the albums released during the 90's I would say Rainbow falls short most because the was no central theme or story it was rushed due to her on going problems with Mottola and Sony. I feel Mariah was planning an escape anyway she could and Rainbow was just that. In the 00's Mariah experienced career highs, low, and resurgence but in my opinion even though Memiors was great in the aspect of telling a story the production watered the album down and made it stale. But overall I can appreciate Mariah for giving her fans the variety she has over her over two decade career. (Friday 13 May 2016; 13:14)

I find it funny (62,092) by Giovanni from USA How certain people are always coming for Mariah talking about how damaged her voice was by '99. But yet in that year she could still out shine and sing circles around every singer today. Mariah recorded album after album touring for a whole decade. She was constantly working dedicated to her music. So it's no wonder her voice declined. My voice would probably decline too. And let's not forget the fact that Mariah's songs are not hard to sing. She probably has the most vocally challenging songs out of any female singer. She sacrificed her voice and body for her fans so I will always be grateful for that. (Friday 13 May 2016; 13:14)

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