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Re: Memoirs (62,045) (62,057) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada I love the whole album start to finish. It is one of my most played. Which is funny to me because some of the lambily absolutely abhor it. We're a diverse bunch. I adore it. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 18:26)

Remixes: ReVisioned (62,056) by Haiji Toro from USA, SOUTH FLORIDA I'm curious about a release like this one. How do you guys feel about a continuation to her Remixes album released by 2020 (only 4 years from now)? Should she even bother? I imagine it to be a double disc as well. The first disc would start where she left off, including b-sides and unreleased music, and the second would have certain past songs reworked with a slight change in sound and new vocals (similar to her newest live versions). I think the new vocals should match her current vocal ability and give each song new life to them. Just a thought. What do you guys think? (Thursday 12 May 2016; 18:14)

Rainbox is weak (62,055) by Sheila from United States Rainbow is the cd I listen to. Never. It bores me. Even the song with Usher was a waste of time. The only song I really like is "I only wanted". (Thursday 12 May 2016; 18:08)

Re: MC (62,036) (62,054) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada Thanks for the shout out, I appreciate where your heart is coming from. We're all part of this community. I am not offended at all. Lol. Thanks for thinking of me. I appreciate it. Mimi L. It's all good. No worries. Let's talk about the music. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 17:52)

Re: Memoirs (62,052) (62,053) by Travon..SweetSweetFantasy from USA I agree. Memoirs is the only album that I can't listen to again. I like Candy Bling and Angels Cry but that's all. There was something wrong with the production. It sounded weak and extremely boring. I listened to it the first time after buying it at retail. I worked hard to get this album. It was sold out everywhere in my local area because of horrible retail stocking. I had to order the album online at Target. It was the first album of hers that I couldn't love after the first listen. Even though it sounded nice after the first listen, I had to skip several songs afterwards. I was dissapointed because usually I love her albums or they grow on me. This album of a mess did not grow on me at all. Luckily we got a awesome Christmas album a year later and a critically acclaimed MIAMTEC in 2014. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 17:05)

Memoirs (62,052) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) I have to agree memoirs was cohesive as it told one long story but the production makes the album very stale quite quickly. MIAM was a turn to form in some ways musically but personal issues behind the scenes killed the moment. As for Taylor Swift another made up award to clout her perfect manufactured image. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 16:33)

Re: Memoirs vs Rainbow (62,047) (62,051) by Philipp from Switzerland I dislike MOAIA too. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 15:46)

Re: Memoirs (62,045) (62,050) by B from USA Memoirs is Mariah's worst release. The songs are indistinguishable. I don't blame Mariah, I blame The Dream and Tricky. They had the opportunity to produce a Mariah Carey album and stuck to their already losing formula. It's boring and uninspired. MIAM is a return to form for Mariah. #Beautiful is/was her best single since 08. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 15:21)

Candy Bling is a great summer song (62,049) by Sheila from United States So very underrated and blissful to me. I wish Mimi would do a b-sides show also and bring some of these cute gems to life. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 15:16)

MOAIA (62,048) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines It's a breakup album, which is weird as it was made at a time when Mariah and Nick were happy. Anyway, I do get Andrew's point that the entire album does sound a bit same-y from start to finish, but that's mainly because of the production and the tempo. Still, the standout songs for me include those that incorporate styles Mariah doesn't do too often: Betcha Gon' Know - the imagery in this is quite cinematic Candy Bling - one of her songs that play on yet don't really seem to go anywhere (in a good way) until she belts out a bit towards the end H.A.T.E.U. - nice, hazy atmospheric background, clever use of boxing metaphor Standing O - the closest the album gets to pure pop, thanks to the punchy keyboards Ribbon - nice, sticky, sickly sweet sound - the aural equivalent of a sugar rush It's A Wrap - could very well be a scene in a play, a delectable slice of doo-wop (Thursday 12 May 2016; 13:30)

Memoirs vs Rainbow (62,047) by Giovanni from USA I'm sorry but I hate "MOAIA". I hardly like any songs off the whole album and feel it is very lackluster. "Rainbow" is definitely way better. At least to me. I feel after "TEOM" Mariah's music went downhill. Which is why I think she tried to go back with "MIAM". "Beautiful" is still the best song she's released. I wonder what other amazing songs she recorded for the album we never got to hear. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 13:14)

Re: Taylor Swift Award? (62,035) (62,046) by Giovanni from USA So I guess "The Emancipation Of Mimi" is the same material Mariah did in the 90's? I'm sorry but you sound very naive. If anything Mariah grew more as an artist with that album. Taking a whole new direction with her sound and music. It's obviously one of her best albums ever. Also, for you to try and compare someone like Talyor Swift to Mariah is a complete insult. Especially as in regards to her voice. As if Taylor's lyrics are so powerful and have meaning. She's very successful, but as a singer and as an artist she falls very short. Mariah never lost her voice either, it changed. Happens to every singer. Celine Dion who still sounds amazing clearly doesn't sound like 1997. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 13:03)

Re: Memoirs (62,031) (62,045) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Haha Licia, I was the one that asked about your favorite songs from MOAIA. I love the songs. More carefree and laid back. BGK is one of her most underrated songs. This album gets a lot of hate from fans, but I hardly ever skip a song on this one. I might get tomatoes thrown at me for saying this but I will pick MOAIA over MIAM any day. MIAM bums me out a little haha. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 12:04)

Re: MC (62,036) (62,044) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Woah "lumped with the other names"? Ouch. And here I thought I was always respectful to you. I adore Deedre and I agree that Deedre's posts are always fair, unbiased and respectful. Your post makes it sound like "the others" which includes my name are trash. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 11:59)

Ian (62,043) by Anthony Basco from Cardiff, Wales Whilst I respect your views, I feel that as a huge fan of somebody, I inevitably get caught up in the legend of them ie the person just as much as their art. For me, it's all part of being a mega fan. Yes, we don't know her, and it's all speculation, but personally I enjoy discussing Mariah as a person as well as her music. I've always been attracted by her magnetic persona, and from what I've seen of her over the years, I feel like she's somebody I really would to have as a friend. Ain't gonna happen, but it's still nice to feel that my favourite musical artist of all time is also a brilliant person. I'm sure it's the same for all super fans of any artist - they want to discuss the person as much the music. There's nothing wrong with it, it's just being a fan. Anyway, just my two cents, and as this is a Mariah Carey fan site and not just a "The Music of Mariah Carey" fan site, I'm going to continue discussing all aspects of this extraordinary artist and person. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 11:46)

Memoirs (62,042) by Anthony Basco from Cardiff, Wales Haha Licia, yes that's a pretty good sign that you really do actually love that album. I feel the same about (don't hate me) Rainbow. There are so many songs I love on that album, but it's by far my least favourite. It's the only single album of M's that I just have never been able to feel a connect with, even though I love Heartbreaker (and its remix), CTTA, Bliss, Crybaby, Petals and TGIFY. I agree with Ty that Betcha Gon' Know would have been a brilliant opportunity for an epic video, but I also think there were a lot of songs there that had that potential, especially It's A Wrap (I was also disappointed by the videos for HateU, Angel's Cry and IWKWLI, amazing songs who's videos let them down). Andrew, no, on the contrary, I find the album one of the most cohesive of Mariah's career. I really feel like she starts with a story and takes it through its stages until that glorious climax with IWKWLI. And then the remixes of Obsessed at the end is almost like her throwing a party for happiness haha. There are moments of bitterness, anger, pain and grief on this album, more so I feel than any of her others, but also intense joy and love. I almost feel like it could be a movie soundtrack. For the lambs who bleat on (sorry couldn't help it) that all we want are number ones, this album was never going to be a smash hit because it isn't mainstream. What it is though is quality music made and sung with passion and integrity, and was M trying something different and succeeding, all in my humble opinion, of course. And just an FYI, I adore E=MC2 (it's in my top 5), but that's for another long ass post on a different day. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 11:39)

Re: MC (62,025) (62,041) by Martyn from England, UK It is sad yet predictable that Ian from the United Kingdom would use my name at this time to reinvent past incidents for his own promotional gain. It is in my heart to forgive and I will keep him in my prayers. (I'm joking, I don't actually care, and I'm done with the drama and will resume only posting about Mariah-related things from now on.) (Thursday 12 May 2016; 10:14)

Re: Memoirs (62,024) (62,040) by Andrew from UK Whilst (what's that word?) I appreciate your candour, don't you find Memoirs boring? E=MC2 is much more entertaining. Memoirs is like one long boring song. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 9:52)

Re: MC (62,025) (62,039) by Andrew from UK I'm happy you used my name to get your thumbs up. Post something interesting and I'll go back to stroking my ego? [censored] (Thursday 12 May 2016; 9:50)

Re: Memoirs (62,024) (62,038) by Lara from Middle East That's funny cause i also listened to MOIA today and thought there's somd good songs that didn't get the love they deserve. H.A.T.E U (that video was a crime), Betcha Gonna Know. If you notice on YouTube, Angels Cry is surprisingly one of the most viewed videos of Mariah. But what really made this album special is the mini-magazine included in it. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 8:55)

Drama (62,037) by Stacey from USA I've been posting online since the Charmbracelet era. The same thing happens no matter what MC fan site I visit. 1) There will always be those who think they can say whatever they want sitting behind a computer screen. 2) There will always be those fans who think they are judge and jury when it comes to who is a fan and who is not. 3) There will always be those who take a difference of opinion as a personal attack. Bottom line: The three things I've mentioned will never change no matter how many times you try to advise those fans otherwise. The sooner you realize these fans will never change, the better off you'll be. Ignoring is the best advice I can give. I choose to respond and discuss with those who don't buy into the drama. If someone attacks me, I don't even bother responding. I read on. It's that simple. Peace. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 7:18)

Re: MC (62,025) (62,036) by Stacey from USA Just a thought, Ian. Leave Diedre alone. She's about as fair minded as you'll get around here. I don't post as much with all the drama like you. But just want to give a shout out to my friend here who shouldn't be lumped with the other names you mentioned. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 7:09)

Re: Taylor Swift Award? (62,004) (62,035) by BIGGEST MC FAN from UNITED STATES It's Mariah's own fault. She ruined her own image and gave up promoting herself. Taylor Swift has worked very hard in letting everyone know that she writes her own songs. Btw, Taylor Swift's albums are very well written from top to bottom and are very catchy while many of Mariah's songs are filled with cliches and a lot of them are cringy fillers. Taylor Swift is changing and evolving as an artist and is working with new people and trying new things. Mariah stopped growing as an artist after Butterfly. After that it's been the same material from her, which is why she has lost most of her fans. At the end of the day it's Mariah's fault as to why she lost her voice and is not respected like other artists. I still love her though. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 5:51)

Re: Memoirs (62,028) (62,034) by Ty from USA Candy Bling, HATEU, Betcha Gon Know (should of had an epic video) was dramatic and painful, it could have saved this cd. Extremely underrated. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 4:31)

Re: MC (62,025) (62,033) by darrian liu from taiwan I agree that music should be the main focus here. However, I wouldn't discredit the power of fashion and makeup. Nowadays, it's an integral part of branding and marketing (you'll get really good press even if you're just strolling around with a banging outfit). Whatever helps Mariah repair her image, whether fashion, makeup and good interviews, I'm all for it. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 3:41)

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