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Memoirs vs Rainbow (62,047) by Giovanni from USA I'm sorry but I hate "MOAIA". I hardly like any songs off the whole album and feel it is very lackluster. "Rainbow" is definitely way better. At least to me. I feel after "TEOM" Mariah's music went downhill. Which is why I think she tried to go back with "MIAM". "Beautiful" is still the best song she's released. I wonder what other amazing songs she recorded for the album we never got to hear. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 13:14)

Re: Taylor Swift Award? (62,035) (62,046) by Giovanni from USA So I guess "The Emancipation Of Mimi" is the same material Mariah did in the 90's? I'm sorry but you sound very naive. If anything Mariah grew more as an artist with that album. Taking a whole new direction with her sound and music. It's obviously one of her best albums ever. Also, for you to try and compare someone like Talyor Swift to Mariah is a complete insult. Especially as in regards to her voice. As if Taylor's lyrics are so powerful and have meaning. She's very successful, but as a singer and as an artist she falls very short. Mariah never lost her voice either, it changed. Happens to every singer. Celine Dion who still sounds amazing clearly doesn't sound like 1997. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 13:03)

Re: Memoirs (62,031) (62,045) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Haha Licia, I was the one that asked about your favorite songs from MOAIA. I love the songs. More carefree and laid back. BGK is one of her most underrated songs. This album gets a lot of hate from fans, but I hardly ever skip a song on this one. I might get tomatoes thrown at me for saying this but I will pick MOAIA over MIAM any day. MIAM bums me out a little haha. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 12:04)

Re: MC (62,036) (62,044) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Woah "lumped with the other names"? Ouch. And here I thought I was always respectful to you. I adore Deedre and I agree that Deedre's posts are always fair, unbiased and respectful. Your post makes it sound like "the others" which includes my name are trash. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 11:59)

Ian (62,043) by Anthony Basco from Cardiff, Wales Whilst I respect your views, I feel that as a huge fan of somebody, I inevitably get caught up in the legend of them ie the person just as much as their art. For me, it's all part of being a mega fan. Yes, we don't know her, and it's all speculation, but personally I enjoy discussing Mariah as a person as well as her music. I've always been attracted by her magnetic persona, and from what I've seen of her over the years, I feel like she's somebody I really would to have as a friend. Ain't gonna happen, but it's still nice to feel that my favourite musical artist of all time is also a brilliant person. I'm sure it's the same for all super fans of any artist - they want to discuss the person as much the music. There's nothing wrong with it, it's just being a fan. Anyway, just my two cents, and as this is a Mariah Carey fan site and not just a "The Music of Mariah Carey" fan site, I'm going to continue discussing all aspects of this extraordinary artist and person. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 11:46)

Memoirs (62,042) by Anthony Basco from Cardiff, Wales Haha Licia, yes that's a pretty good sign that you really do actually love that album. I feel the same about (don't hate me) Rainbow. There are so many songs I love on that album, but it's by far my least favourite. It's the only single album of M's that I just have never been able to feel a connect with, even though I love Heartbreaker (and its remix), CTTA, Bliss, Crybaby, Petals and TGIFY. I agree with Ty that Betcha Gon' Know would have been a brilliant opportunity for an epic video, but I also think there were a lot of songs there that had that potential, especially It's A Wrap (I was also disappointed by the videos for HateU, Angel's Cry and IWKWLI, amazing songs who's videos let them down). Andrew, no, on the contrary, I find the album one of the most cohesive of Mariah's career. I really feel like she starts with a story and takes it through its stages until that glorious climax with IWKWLI. And then the remixes of Obsessed at the end is almost like her throwing a party for happiness haha. There are moments of bitterness, anger, pain and grief on this album, more so I feel than any of her others, but also intense joy and love. I almost feel like it could be a movie soundtrack. For the lambs who bleat on (sorry couldn't help it) that all we want are number ones, this album was never going to be a smash hit because it isn't mainstream. What it is though is quality music made and sung with passion and integrity, and was M trying something different and succeeding, all in my humble opinion, of course. And just an FYI, I adore E=MC2 (it's in my top 5), but that's for another long ass post on a different day. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 11:39)

Re: MC (62,025) (62,041) by Martyn from England, UK It is sad yet predictable that Ian from the United Kingdom would use my name at this time to reinvent past incidents for his own promotional gain. It is in my heart to forgive and I will keep him in my prayers. (I'm joking, I don't actually care, and I'm done with the drama and will resume only posting about Mariah-related things from now on.) (Thursday 12 May 2016; 10:14)

Re: Memoirs (62,024) (62,040) by Andrew from UK Whilst (what's that word?) I appreciate your candour, don't you find Memoirs boring? E=MC2 is much more entertaining. Memoirs is like one long boring song. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 9:52)

Re: MC (62,025) (62,039) by Andrew from UK I'm happy you used my name to get your thumbs up. Post something interesting and I'll go back to stroking my ego? [censored] (Thursday 12 May 2016; 9:50)

Re: Memoirs (62,024) (62,038) by Lara from Middle East That's funny cause i also listened to MOIA today and thought there's somd good songs that didn't get the love they deserve. H.A.T.E U (that video was a crime), Betcha Gonna Know. If you notice on YouTube, Angels Cry is surprisingly one of the most viewed videos of Mariah. But what really made this album special is the mini-magazine included in it. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 8:55)

Drama (62,037) by Stacey from USA I've been posting online since the Charmbracelet era. The same thing happens no matter what MC fan site I visit. 1) There will always be those who think they can say whatever they want sitting behind a computer screen. 2) There will always be those fans who think they are judge and jury when it comes to who is a fan and who is not. 3) There will always be those who take a difference of opinion as a personal attack. Bottom line: The three things I've mentioned will never change no matter how many times you try to advise those fans otherwise. The sooner you realize these fans will never change, the better off you'll be. Ignoring is the best advice I can give. I choose to respond and discuss with those who don't buy into the drama. If someone attacks me, I don't even bother responding. I read on. It's that simple. Peace. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 7:18)

Re: MC (62,025) (62,036) by Stacey from USA Just a thought, Ian. Leave Diedre alone. She's about as fair minded as you'll get around here. I don't post as much with all the drama like you. But just want to give a shout out to my friend here who shouldn't be lumped with the other names you mentioned. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 7:09)

Re: Taylor Swift Award? (62,004) (62,035) by BIGGEST MC FAN from UNITED STATES It's Mariah's own fault. She ruined her own image and gave up promoting herself. Taylor Swift has worked very hard in letting everyone know that she writes her own songs. Btw, Taylor Swift's albums are very well written from top to bottom and are very catchy while many of Mariah's songs are filled with cliches and a lot of them are cringy fillers. Taylor Swift is changing and evolving as an artist and is working with new people and trying new things. Mariah stopped growing as an artist after Butterfly. After that it's been the same material from her, which is why she has lost most of her fans. At the end of the day it's Mariah's fault as to why she lost her voice and is not respected like other artists. I still love her though. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 5:51)

Re: Memoirs (62,028) (62,034) by Ty from USA Candy Bling, HATEU, Betcha Gon Know (should of had an epic video) was dramatic and painful, it could have saved this cd. Extremely underrated. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 4:31)

Re: MC (62,025) (62,033) by darrian liu from taiwan I agree that music should be the main focus here. However, I wouldn't discredit the power of fashion and makeup. Nowadays, it's an integral part of branding and marketing (you'll get really good press even if you're just strolling around with a banging outfit). Whatever helps Mariah repair her image, whether fashion, makeup and good interviews, I'm all for it. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 3:41)

Mishka (62,032) by SM from Citizen of the World I think that's her name lol. Mariah must have fired her because we have no new tweets this month. Ahahahaha. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 3:36)

Re: Memoirs (62,024) (62,031) by Licia from USA I actually thought I disliked Memoirs until another fan asked me what songs I listened to from the album and I named dang near the whole album. Lol. I think the remix album that got shelved made me give Memoirs another shot. I already loved HATEU and Impossible, but when the remixed songs got leaked I started to enjoy it more and I went back and listened to the original songs. I was so ready for that remix album though. This is the only regular Mariah album that I didn't buy and I really regret it because I didn't give the album a fair chance for some unknown reason. I love HATEU, The Impossible, Ribbon, Candy Bling, Up Out My Face remix, Angels Cry remix, Inseparable, I Want to Know What Love Is, and Obsessed. I really think I named the whole album or more than half. Lol. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 2:54)

"Opinions are like a*******, everybody has one" (62,030) by Haiji Toro from USA, SOUTH FLORIDA I rarely post anything on this site, I just like to read the articles for any new updates regarding Mariah's music. I also enjoy this messageboard on occasions. I've been a fan/lamb since her debut and a fan of MCA since her Butterfly days. It's great to see so many people of different cultures, backgrounds, races, genders and personalities share a somewhat similar love or passion as I do. Yet, as if I'm still stuggling with feeling on the "outside", now just constantly defending an amazing singer. I choose to respect other's opinions and beliefs, but like I see with religion and everything else in life, no need to push it unto others, I have my own. We all view her in our own ways, but it doesn't change that we really "don't know her" personally and the reasons to why she is and does as she pleases. At the end of the day, isn't the main reason we love her is her music? I used to be so "obsessed" (sorry, can't help it), that I wouldn't listen to radio when she'd release new music, unless it was her song, just so no one else had a chance at #1, but those days are long gone. Then I grew up and had my own life to obsess over. So the moral of this story is, feel free to state your own opinion, as to also respect others with their own. Even if they're being negative. It's easier to ignore and move along, then to entertain it and ware out your thumbs (as I'm doing with this long and winded post). Don't forget, we also don't personally know each other, how can you put emotion to words, without knowing the personality behind it? Last but not least, who cares what she wants to do with her life and how she portrays herself? Her music is what brought us here. Mariah as a person doesn't define me nor it pays my bills. It's her music that gives me what I want, what my ears crave. C'mon MC. Replenish these ears of mine. Good day to all. God bless. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 2:43)

Re: MC (62,025) (62,029) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada I actually agree with a lot of what you've said Ian. I don't know Mariah. She inspires me a lot. Her music in a lot of ways has been the soundtrack to my life. I could see aspects of myself in her music and in how she is as a person to some extent but I don't know her. Her choices are not my business. So, having a whole laundry list of opinions about her and her life, doesn't mean much at all in that respect. She still going to do whatever she decides whether I'm into her career and her persona or have an opinion about it or not. Will she change her image? I've no freaking clue. What I do know is if Mariah wanted to project a different public image, that's what she'd be doing. Am I comfortable letting my "girls" out for the world to view etc? Nope. Not my thing. But I also don't think it's my place to judge anyone. That's not my place. Again, my opinion so those who don't agree with that, grain of salt, right? (Thursday 12 May 2016; 2:11)

Re: Memoirs (62,024) (62,028) by B from USA I also love Candy Bling, H.A.T.E.U., and Angels Cry. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 1:33)

Re: MC (62,025) (62,027) by B from USA I agree. I think spending so much time (too much) dissecting what she says or does is harmful. She's human and she's not perfect. Some fans and critics hold unrealistic expectations. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 1:31)

Re: B from USA (61,948) (62,026) by B from USA I didn't know that it was a common word. I was just a question. It was an insult or diss and I'm sorry you took it that way. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 1:28)

MC (62,025) by Ian from United Kingdom Dipped in and out of this site for many years but seems like it's all about personalities and egos recently (Andrew, Deidre aka Martyn, Mimi L etc.). I first came here for the love of music that came from MC but it's so boring now with all the fashion, make-up and Stella related stuff. Let's concentrate on the musical output (when it happens) and ditch all the crap that doesn't actually matter, you don't actually know her, as much as you would like to think you do and she does not listen to or care what you write about her, Mariah lives in a bubble, sad but true and kinda expected. I'm sure she will release some good (maybe even great) material in the future but in the meantime we just have to keep it together and support without making a mess on a site she doesn't really care about. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 1:03)

Memoirs (62,024) by Anthony Basco from Cardiff, Wales So I listened to Memoirs again today for the first time in a long time - I realise I'd forgotten just how brilliant that album is. There are some incredible songs on that album, HateU, Candy Bling, Ribbon, It's A Wrap, Languishing and Angels Cry. I found myself very very moved by Angels Cry today. It's so beautiful and heartfelt. Mariah truly does have the best catalogue of any artist I know. Here's to new music from the artist we all of us here love. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 1:03)

Re: Looking at MCA like... (61,992) (62,023) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada Moving on. The deer eating popcorn is adorable. If people have their minds already made up around what is considered "positive" and what is considered overly "negative" there isn't much room for flexibility is there? Lol. Just because we don't always agree on opinions doesn't stop opinions. Me? I find the personal attacks a bit much at times, but hey, that's an opinion. We can all lighten up some. It wouldn't hurt anything, it's just a freaking messageboard. Lol. (Wednesday 11 May 2016; 23:03)

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