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Re: I find it funny (62,112) (62,133) by Giovanni from USA Not you again. Whitney's voice was shot by '95. And was in no way stronger lol. She ruined her voice with smoking and by other things I care not to mention. And Beyonce is not a good example either. Her songs are not hard to sing at all. The only one I consider a challenge would be "Love on top". But that's about it. Let her or any other singer today try and sing "If it's over" and their vocal cords would be destroyed for life. I'm not making excuses I'm stating facts. (Saturday 14 May 2016; 10:12)

Re: I find it funny (62,110) (62,132) by Giovanni from USA I completely agree. Christina is a perfect example. When she first came out with her debut album her voice was fresh and beautiful. But she damaged her voice by not having proper technique and by pushing it to the limit. She obviously was trying to give Mariah competition by mimicking her in many ways. For instance, trying to master the whistle register which she cleary never had. People definitely need to give it a rest. (Saturday 14 May 2016; 9:57)

Mariah Carey upcoming TV appearances (62,131) by Travon..SweetSweetFantasy from USA I have Directv Genie and I can see shows a week in advance before press. Mariah Carey is scheduled for Extra and Entertainment Tonight on May 16. Watch What Happens on May 17 and Access Hollywood on May 19. They are also doing a repeat of MTV Cribs Priciest Pads countdown on May 20 on MTV. I am expecting she is promoting Vegas and Mariah's World. (Saturday 14 May 2016; 7:47)

Article: The time I had lunch with Mariah Carey (62,130) by AJ Forever from USA I love you Mariah. I love the song Infinity too. "Could it be that you just found the best you've ever had?" (Saturday 14 May 2016; 7:08)

Stay in the Middle by Hill (62,129) by Paul from Usa Maybe I'm just late to the party but I looked up MC on IMDB. And saw she was featured in this video. In the first 15 seconds. I wonder why? Anybody else think it's a bit odd? (Saturday 14 May 2016; 6:04)

Re: I find it funny (62,112) (62,128) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines When it comes to Mariah's vocal decline, I believe it's unfair to compare her to singers such as Whitney or Celine, or anyone for that matter. Individual differences exist. First, Whitney and Celine were absolute belters (not the one-night-only kindbut marathon belters) and yes, more than Mariah has ever been. While Mariah was a belter for a certain period in her career, the way she "toured" in the 90s showed just how her voice wasn't meant to withstand the rigors of touring. She didn't do it because she knew the limitations of her voice. Her strength has never lied in her lung power. It was in her expansive range, her ability to play with vocal textures and her knack for songwriting. Sure, at her prime, she could belt as well or maybe even outbelt the rest of them, but not as often as them. Her voice has changed due to a lot of things she did wrong that she may or may not have known and that she may or may not have any control over. She could have laid off the drinks, but if fun for her at parties meant having alcohol in the mix, then she would not have enjoyed her freedom from Tommy as much. She could have taken her time and done less to avoid the stress, but if she did that in the 90s then we probably woudn't have as many songs to enjoy. She could have asked for professional help vocally, but then her mom's a vocal coach and who are we to know and say that she hasn't ever consulted anyone. She could have scaled back on the money notes, but then we wouldn't enjoy her songs as much if she had. She could've gotten surgery for her nodules, but when you have built your entire career on your voice, you'd naturally be scared of how yours may turn out like Julie Andrews' despite success stories from the likes of Adele and John Mayer. Her voice could have gotten stronger through constant touring just like Beyoncé or it may not have depending on her actual vocal stamina and tolerance for constant vocal stress, not to mention the actual effect aging has on her voice (even Janet Jackson, who has practically mumbled, whimpered and cooed throughout her career, sounds different in Unbreakable from how she did in All For You, and even much more in Control). So yeah, the vocal change does depend on a myriad of factors. The one thing that Mariah has yet to learn, though, is how to adapt to those changes studio-wise, so that her newer material won't be as hard to replicate live. Because even though her vocal decline is possibly the most mocked and most unofficially documented in mainstream music history, the irony is that despite all of that, people still expect her to perform live like she does on her studio recordings, if not better like she did in the early-mid 90s. If she takes live performance in consideration when composing new material, she won't have to rely on playback as much, and we wouldn't have to hear practically the same setlist every time. She could actually perform her newer songs live (unlike Cry. or Supernatural which were pretty much mimed the whole way through during TES). Still, let us give credit where it's due - she's shown a lot of improvement during the SSFT. It's not CB Tour great, but it's definitely something worth noting. I pray that shows on her next album which I hope will sound less strained than she did in MIAMTEC. (Saturday 14 May 2016; 5:55)

Memoirs (62,127) by RibbonB from USA People should note the definition of memoirs involves memories and moments of someone's life, not just from the last CD to the next. Thus Memoirs included happy and sad moments, of her life, or that people in general might experience, not just what she may have been experiencing during her marriage. (Saturday 14 May 2016; 5:45)

Re: Lost? (62,097) (62,126) by Merr Hasenan from Malaysia Breakdown, Almost Home, Butterfly, Crybaby and Fantasy. I got no proper reason on my sellection accept l listen to these songs almost everyday. I can't live without them I guess. (Saturday 14 May 2016; 4:43)

Re: Memoirs, Rainbow and MIAMTEC (62,114) (62,125) by Dustbin from USA I've heard "Help me make it through the night" from Tennessee. Anyone know where to buy it? Or download? Eeek. Beautiful song. (Saturday 14 May 2016; 4:11)

Powers that be (62,124) by 123 from USA I love everyone's lists. I've been revisiting some songs I haven't in a while because of it. I know some of these were kind of singles but they never got the full treatment like actually being sent for radio adds, video, and promotional performances. Mariah Carey: Prisoner/All Alone in Love Emotions: To Be Around You Unplugged: If It's Over Music Box: I've Been Thinking About You/Music Box Merry Christmas: Miss You Most. Daydream: Melt Away/Slipping Away Butterfly: The Roof Rainbow: Crybaby Charmbracelet: You Know You Got Me/Clown TEOM: So Lonely (One & Only Part II) feat Twista/Mine Again E=MC2: For The Record/I Stay In Love Memoirs: Betcha Gon Know/It's a Wrap/Angel's Cry MCIIU: Christmas Time is in the air again MIAM: YDKWTD/Faded/Meteorite (Saturday 14 May 2016; 4:08)

Re: Cause and effect (62,111) (62,123) by Mara from United States Haiji, I appreciate the time you put into this post. I enjoyed reading it and agree with a lot that you said. I can tell you are a big fan who followed Mariah or just understands where she may be coming from. I do believe a lot of what is going on and has been going on now, stems from the past. I also think Memoirs is literally just that. Like entries in a diary, even going back to a song as airy and "cute" as Candy Bling. The lyrics to that song could be about the boyfriend she had as far back as high school that passed away. When she mentions "thinkin' bout the 10th grade, thinkin' bout 11th and Heaven" we all have those moments where we think about our youth and past loves and crave for those times again. I had one of those moments last month and Candy Bling's lyrics fit perfectly even to the high school grade. Mariah is beyond talented and she can't fool me with the diva antics as all real fans know and can see through the real Mariah. I sometimes feel on this board especially that the older fans from her debut get looked at by the newer or younger fans as we are stuck in this "we need Mariah to be the way Mottola wanted her to be" and that's simply not true. I grew as a fan along with Mariah and was fortunate enough to experience all these eras live and I'm so happy I did. We were the ones who got to see Mariah evolve into who she is now. Were there eras we preferred or other ways we wanted her to go? Of course, but we will always support her and look forward to the music. Mariah always spoke to my soul and I can honestly say that no other artist has ever. So I really appreciate your post and can totally see where you are coming from, so thank you for taking the time to compose it. And here's looking towards the next era that I hope is around the corner. I am in desperate need of new MC lyrical gems. (Saturday 14 May 2016; 4:08)

Re: I find it funny (62,112) (62,122) by darrian liu from taiwan Don't forget about her nodules. (Saturday 14 May 2016; 3:42)

Ribbon (62,121) by RibbonB from USA I love Ribbon from Memoirs. That song is perfect from the two minutes point to the end. Amazing adlibs. (Saturday 14 May 2016; 3:17)

Break up makeup re-up prenup (62,120) by RibbonB from USA Mariah has been writing love songs, make up and break up songs since the beginning of her career and even before Tommy. People like to think these songs are all personal and chronological, but I highly doubt it. Mariah herself has given conflicting and convoluted information about her songs. Right now Mariah is doing the same with her personal life. I'm sure her next record people will be very confused. Is she referring to her husband, her fiance or then hired help Bryan or Anthony? What's most sad is she and her team think this is cute. (Saturday 14 May 2016; 3:13)

Re: Lost? (62,097) (62,119) by Haiji Toro from USA, SOUTH FLORIDA This was such a hard choice. I had to go through some extensive process of elimination. Here it is: Love Takes Time - My all time favorite Mariah song. Anytime You Need A Friend (C&C Club Version) - Gotta have a reason to dance away the hours. All I Want For Christmas (Is You) - In case I'm still stranded during the holidays, I'm gonna need a festive song. Outside - If this song helped me get through racism, homosexuality, bullying and family strife, then it'll get me through anything. We Belong Together - This song came out during a very transitional stage in my life and then resurfaced into my life at a happier moment. Great memories. Important song for me. Her music is definitely the soundtrack to my life. In order for me to remember certain years in my past, I normally link her album to that year to remember. But that's actually the case with all music. (Saturday 14 May 2016; 3:01)

Article: Is Nick Cannon purposely holding up his ex's wedding? (62,118) by Marissa from USA I've asked this question here before that either got no or unclear responses, but is Mariah currently married to Nick or is she divorced? The reports have been so confusing. I thought that she had been divorced since 2014 or 2015. What is the deal? (Saturday 14 May 2016; 2:38)

Wil.I.am and The Voice (62,117) by Licia from USA That article has to be a joke right? If my memory serves me correctly didn't he make a joke about Mariah not having a voice anymore? Why would she even consider working anywhere near him? So you say she has no voice yet you want her to be a voice coach on the show that makes a lot of sense. Lol. (Saturday 14 May 2016; 0:55)

Re: Memoirs, Rainbow and MIAMTEC (62,094) (62,114) by Tevin from USA She did country with Help Me Make It Through The Night. And she did rock with Bringing On The Heartbreak, and a little bit in You Need Me, but that was like pop rock. (Friday 13 May 2016; 23:54)

Re: Lost (62,113) by Ardis Logic from Earth Emotions, Anytime You Need A Friend, Make It Happen, Fly Like A Bird, Heavenly. (Friday 13 May 2016; 23:54)

Re: I find it funny (62,092) (62,112) by BIGGEST MC FAN from UNITED STATES Stop making excuses for Mariah. She has barely toured in the 90s. She had 25 dates throughout the whole 90s. Do you know how many Whitney Houston had from 84-94? 431. Yes, 431. And her voice was just as strong and arguably even stronger. It's not normal for a singer's voice to decline after 6 years. It only gets stronger. Look at Beyonce for example. She has been touring and working nonstop since 1998 and her voice sounds the best today. Mariah's voice has declined starting from 97 because she stopped caring for it and started drinking a lot. That is why her vocals on "I Still Believe", "Rainbow", and everything afterwards sounds shot. She could have switched her style up and done different types of music that don't require the extensive use of her vocals. But she didn't. She continued forcing belts and they sound bad as a result. I'm not saying that this is all her fault. Tommy Motolla has damaged her mentally. But she dealt with her issues in a bad (drinking) way which reflected in her work. (Friday 13 May 2016; 23:50)

Cause and effect (62,111) by Haiji Toro from USA, SOUTH FLORIDA In my observation with Mariah's life and career, I feel that the events and personal situations that took place from the beginning of her career could be the reason to the decisions and actions that led to where she's at mentally and emotionally in this present day. Her albums somewhat reflect those stages. Of course, her first album, to me, will be a classic. This was like her first child. The album that represents her planned, hard work. Except, she wasn't able to raise it on her own. Not that it was a bad thing for her career, seeing how well that album did. Unfortunately for her, she really didn't have control of anything pertaining to the business side, especially at those times. Which is what many of us go through at the beginning of our careers. We sometimes are put in a place where we have to sacrifice certain things in life to get good results. I feel that the Mariah we saw between Daydream and Butterfly years, was who she truly was at heart, musically driven, hard working, humble, but still naive to the business side. She wanted to be free to be herself but knew a lot was at stake, so she started making certain choices that were almost contradictory to her beliefs. It's like ying and yang, cause and effect. Sacrifice of image and personality, equaled more money and many hits, more fame. Butterfly was the birth of a woman that, at the time, wanted to be free but was still controlled to an extent, made to feel that with just her talent, she couldn't do it alone. Which I think is why her image became what it was. Still insecure, but resentful. So instead of just wanting to feel sexy and have full control, she subconsciously created a whole new persona. The sexier she dressed, the more she pissed the right people off, the more attention she got. Not realizing the person she became. Rainbow, to me, was basically her 2 week notice. At this point, All that Glitters was all that was on her mind. She needed to produce an album to get out of contract. I'm sure she worked hard on it, but I don't think she intended her best work and creativity to go into that specific album, hence the fillers, in my opinion. So at this point, having the world at her hands, dropping more hits, breaking more records, it didn't stop there. Her freedom was around the corner. We all get a bit ahead of ourselves when we feel invincible. Sometimes we let it get to our head and we forget what got us there. She worked so hard for what she thought was coming, but all the lights, glamour and glitter replaced the sweat, tears and sleep. And finally came Glitter. The hard work shows in the music and movie as well. I don't care what anyone says, you give me a few million to work on music and a movie, sacrificing my sleep and energy, just to make my dreams come true, and to prove the world I can do it on my own, I wouldn't turn that down. But even God rested on the 7th day. Not to come off offensive, but I feel that sometimes no matter where we are in life, and what we think is right for us, God will always remind us to humble ourselves and not take life for granted. Even if it means taking it all away, that light will shine on us. So now, finally resting, a clearer sense of reality, her humbleness kicks in. It reflects on Charmbracelet. Mentally and emotionally, that was her comeback. It was her second chance at once again proving herself in this industry. Relevancy and longevity was her focus at this point. In order to achieve that, and now having creative control, yet staying humble, she became smarter in the business. Music was her life. Hip hop was her drive. The streets took her in, finally accepting her roots. What corporate America and the suits disapproved of her musically, the streets embraced. Now working with new producers and having some freedom, it was time for her musical comeback. The Emancipation of Mimi. We saw a little more secure, creative and mature woman. It's like everything was falling into place. All she needed now to feel complete was a man who loved her, respected her views, and let her be who she wanted to be. Remember, fame, love and happiness all come with a price. To keep her fame going, the pressure for more hits was present. Similar to her album Emotions, E=MC2 was a rushed production. Almost like both were collections of left over tracks. No harm was done on either, giving both produced record breaking singles. The first being the first solo act to have 5 consecutive singles reach #1 and the latter breaking Elvis Presley's previous record, making her the only living act, only woman at that, to reach such fame. It couldn't get any better for her, but love finally showed up. She found someone that made her feel beautiful and young. We sometimes pray so much for true love and happiness, that when we get it, we no longer remember how we got it. Her new love is all she saw. She deserved to be happy. Unfortunately, the yang must play a part in that ying. The sacrifice of music and her humbleness took into effect. She had the fame she worked so hard for and the love she yearned for so long, she nothing else really mattered at this point. Now her goal was building a family. In order to start a new life, you must let go of your past. Her closure to that life was revealed in Memoirs. Although the actual title of that album should have been The Art of Letting Go. Memoirs was, in my opinion, spring cleaning. A transitional album. Like someone stated before, it sounded like one long song. I agree that production should have been broadened and diverse, yet cohesive, but at this point in her life and career, I think she had every right to make those decisions. Think about it, she went from having this dream so young, putting work to achieve it. Not realizing that in this industry, they all need a niche. What she saw as a blessing and outlet, the industry used as their money machine. We all know machines don't last forever. They either evolve as a product, get refined to extend their capabilities, or just become another antique item in the museum of life. Her machine has had its ware and tares, but continues to amazingly get refined. Wether we hear that sound live or not, it's her sound. Expecting her voice to be the same, is as expecting a child not to grow. Her present voice is the evolution of her machine. I'd rather hear that, then a soundless music box on display. Now, a new era, new pressures in music and business. That longevity she wants. Balancing a marriage and family. Life behind the scenes of perceptions of what we think we know. I'm sure it's too much to deal with. I believe that MIAMTEC was intended to be another shot to reclaim her position. Maybe deep down inside, like many of us fans/lambs, we wanted that best song of this decade and another 2 or 3 number 1 hits for her, but life happens and we learn to acceppt. Maybe this new marriage, management and label, is her Lemonade. What might seem bitter to us, might just be the right taste for others. I say just enjoy the drink "whilst" you can and if you don't like how it tastes, simply find another one. I'm sure I'll read about how long this story was, and maybe even get negative comments, maybe won't even get anything, and I'm OK with either case. I enjoyed writing this. Have an amazing day and God Bless. (Friday 13 May 2016; 23:08)

Re: I find it funny (62,092) (62,110) by Leito from USA Exactly. She didn't have a breakdown in 2001 for nothing. She's been working non-stop since she busted into the scenes. Tell me one 40+ year old singer (I'm talking about a real vocal singer) who sound as they did at 18-25 years old. Look at Christina A. She is a decade younger than Mariah. She doesn't sound the same, as she did in the first half of her career. People need to let that rest already. (Friday 13 May 2016; 21:57)

Re: Lost? (62,108) (62,109) by Travon..SweetSweetFantasy from USA Haha. I love that. Too funny. Mariah has so many "help me" songs. It took me 20 minutes trying to figure out my own question. Any other songs or just Bliss? (Friday 13 May 2016; 21:47)

Re: Lost? (62,107) (62,108) by Dustbin from USA Bliss for sure. Perhaps all the whistling would signal a rescue ship or a dolphin to come save me. (Friday 13 May 2016; 21:15)

Re: Lost? (62,097) (62,107) by Travon..SweetSweetFantasy from USA Oh I forgot. I needed to give my response to my own question. Please don't judge me. I am having several bleak moments. Haha. If I was stranded in the middle of nowhere, I would choose: Hero - To make it through the days and nights. We Belong Together - I would become sexually deprived being alone. Having fond memories of yearning for my lost lover would be ideal. Looking In - I wouldn't know how to deal. Dahlings. There's Got To Be A Way - To create my own nation with my body. Touch My Body - The creatures I despise crawling on me is bleakness to the extreme. I would need to think the things touching me are giving me secret rendezvous. (Friday 13 May 2016; 21:09)

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