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Re: GLAAD award (61,637) (61,652) by Bill from the UK
I agree Andrew. Songs such as Looking In, Outside, and all the other "overcoming adversary" songs were about being bi-racial, but ambiguous enough to be interpreted for any given situation, such as coming to terms with homosexuality. She's then in the next breath singing soaring gospel numbers such as Fly Like A Bird and Heavenly. We all know what the Bible's opinion on homosexuality is. When asked to give an opinion on a demographic, her response is usually the stock "we love everybody", which as you say is as apolitical as one can get. So yes, bizarre that she has won this award.
(Tuesday 26 April 2016; 22:56)
Re: GLAAD award (61,644) (61,651) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada
Correct me if I'm wrong. These awards are chosen by the organization/community are they not? She's unquestionably a LGBT icon. While I agree MC isn't the first celeb that comes to mind in terms of LGBT advocacy work, she most certainly is an icon representing all forms of equality, whether that be facing some kind of disability, adversity, be it bi-racial, overcoming obstacles, including equality in the LGBT community. It's not like Mariah's out there screaming "Pick me, pick me, I deserve this award." She's just doing her thing. The community obviously sees fit to recognize that she's a symbol of unconditional acceptance for many people. There's no denying her influence to any group that has felt misunderstood.
(Tuesday 26 April 2016; 21:30)
Re: Article: Mariah announces "I can't sing in front of these fans" (61,615) (61,650) by gilles from us
They're talking about what had happen on Stan Twitter. Lol.
(Tuesday 26 April 2016; 21:13)
Gay Icon (61,649) by Nikki from usa
The award is for promoting acceptance which Mariah has done. I'm kind of shocked by all the fans on here who don't think MC talking about her guncles for 15 years isn't support. Especially, since she kept saying Ernie and Mort co-raised her. She actively supported Obama who supported gay marriage. She even went to the Abbey, the gayest club ever, to party the night away with the ladies. Mariah did a special performance for club GAY. She went to the Out100 gala and gave a speech on behalf of Lee Daniels. She's the first person on the cover and interview for Turkey's first gay magazine. Not to mention featuring a gay couple in I Want To Know What Love Is and having a gay couple propose on stage at concert. She rallied on social media for anti bullying of gays back in 2010 and that article is on this website. That same year she also did an interview with The Advocate on gay acceptance and covered everything from gay friends to if her kids turned out gay since she was newly pregnant at the time. I'd say she's been pretty active in the gay community. I guess real truth and digging deep doesn't go hand in hand with the same lot who thinks respect is clothing apparel, huh?
(Tuesday 26 April 2016; 20:31)
Glad about the GLAAD Award (61,648) by Tijl from Belgium
Honestly I am happy for Mariah to receive the award. Is she the most outspoken spokesperson for gay rights? No Is she a gay icon? Yes. Compared to a Lady Gaga or that Madonna person she is much less outspoken in public but read between the lines: a "rainbow" cover, a very gay pose, song lyrics such as "Outside" and "Mariah's Theme" and her love for anything camp. Mariah deserves this award as she has been speaking through her music for anyone that felt out of place in their lives. No need for blatant and vulgar behaviour on gay pride parades etc. She may be over the top when it comes to her image but in her heart she is modest and respectful. Unfortunately some gay people don't understand the power of a meaningfull whisper over shallow hollering. The award will give her extra confidence and good publicity in the mags.
(Tuesday 26 April 2016; 20:06)
Re: GLAAD award (61,647) by Dennis from Miami, FL
Andrew, mate thanks for your message. It was translated especially for me into my native "Boris language". You are right (as always, I believe). Now it's all clear to me.
(Tuesday 26 April 2016; 19:41)
Re: GLAAD award (61,625) (61,646) by B from USA
If Mariah's donations to AID's charities were known it would cause Mariah to deal with the Alison questions and chaos.
(Tuesday 26 April 2016; 19:21)
Re: GLAAD award (61,641) (61,645) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
I'm probably only speaking for myself when I say I've known about the GLAAD awards for 6 years now, and they recognize people, organizations and media that not necessarily tirelessly advocate but do help promote equality and acceptance especially for the LGBT community. While it may seem like they're hitching their wagon to a global superstar, I truly believe they just want to recognize efforts toward this cause. Just how well do we think we know Mariah and her philanthropic activities? I'm guessing there are many that she'd rather keep to herself and not publicize. She maybe an unlikely winner and this award my not be a big deal (or any deal at all) to most of us, but it's nice that she's getting recognized for her humanity.
(Tuesday 26 April 2016; 18:15)
Re: GLAAD award (61,633) (61,644) by Marissa from USA
"Who are we to question her merits?" Rational human beings perhaps? You are advocating for blind allegiance, because you shouldn't have to suspend your ability to think critically to be a good fan. This is the part that people are missing. Is Mariah a gay icon? Absolutely. I wouldn't be surprised if gay men outnumbered women in her fanbase. Is she a tireless gay advocate who is devoting her life to the cause? Absolutely not. Everyone's saying essentially "just because she's not very vocal about it doesn't mean she's not a gay advocate". That misses the entire point of advocacy. Supporting gay rights privately does nothing to advance the cause when you have millions of followers who you could be getting the message out to on a regular basis. The point is to use one's celebrity platform to advance the cause of gay rights which she has done very infrequently and coyly. I don't think someone who puts their desire to be seen as politically neutral over boldly advocating for gay rights should be nominated for this award. Now if Mariah (finally) got a Grammy or a Lifetime Achievement Award you wouldn't hear me saying anything because at least it would make sense.
(Tuesday 26 April 2016; 18:08)
Re: (61,639) (61,643) by B from USA
Whatever. Your always so negative. Even when you attempt to praise her it still comes across as negative. This will be my last response to any of your post.
(Tuesday 26 April 2016; 18:02)
Re: GLAAD award (61,641) (61,642) by B from USA
I think the GLAAD Icon Award is given to an icon who has had a positive impact on members of the LGBT community. She's provided a voice, lyrically and vocally, through her songs for the gay community. As a 12 year old gay boy hearing Outside helped me realize I wasn't the only one who felt out of place everywhere. Stop trying to diminish her importance to the LGBT community.
(Tuesday 26 April 2016; 18:00)
Re: GLAAD award (61,638) (61,641) by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
I have to agree with Andrew. I think Mariah only gets the award because Mariah is a superstar, so that the GLAAD Award gets more publicity. Who has ever heard of this award before? Celebrities who deserve awards are people who will travel around to stop injustice, talk to world leaders about political issues, who are not afraid to speak their minds when they see something they don't like. People like Princess Diana, Angelina Jolie, Bono, Bruce Springsteen. Certainly not Mariah.
(Tuesday 26 April 2016; 16:55)
Epic performance (61,640) by DK from USA
On April 20th MC Facebook page posted "PSA: Single night tickets are now available for ?#?ESSENCEFest? and I will be giving an EPIC performance on Saturday night. Trust me, you don't want to miss it." I wonder if this was a hyped ad or a hint that she will perform a new single. MC and/or her camp don't use the word "epic" often... well certainly not prior to her joining Epic Records.
(Tuesday 26 April 2016; 16:53)
(61,639) by Andrew from UK
This is a pure example of who Mariah is, how apolitical she is, and my genuine confusion as to the award. She's not a "gay icon". She's just an icon, right? Right? I'm right, right? Right.
(Tuesday 26 April 2016; 16:50)
Re: GLAAD award (61,636) (61,638) by B from USA
No one cares what point your trying to make. We get it you don't think Mariah is deserving of this award. She's not some starlet trying to redeem herself after a public mishap by becoming the face of a charity. Mariah has donated to many charities. The only charity she's the face of is The Fresh Air Fund/Camp Mariah.
(Tuesday 26 April 2016; 16:46)
Re: GLAAD award (61,626) (61,637) by Andrew from UK
Gay marriage proposals on stage? Okay, so maybe that's a start. I can see that helping. Maybe I'm missing the point of the award. Agree that Mariah probably isn't anti-gay. Agree that Mariah's theme used to be all about representing what it's like to be on the outside, to need acceptance, to believe in who you are. But a pseudo-political award? She's the most apolitical singer out there. She is incredibly choreographed to not say anything to anyone that might offend them or third parties (why American Idol was such a bad idea). I must be missing the point of the award. Incidentally: she likes to lecture with a sigh how Hero is schmaltzy and she didn't really like it but after time she kinda does etc. Funny how that was the song all the gays latched onto. And she constantly slags it off, and in doing so, all the queers who fell in love with it in the first place lmao. Funny thing is, schmaltz is what a good chunk of her catalogue is dripping in. Somebody should point this out to her before she slips on it.
(Tuesday 26 April 2016; 16:34)
Re: GLAAD award (61,634) (61,636) by Andrew from UK
You seem to be missing the point, which itself seems to be a disease on here with some people. Mariah's songs like Hero and her ballads in general spoke clearly to gay people, and, further, there was an infinity with her voice. But she has always remained completely apolitical whilst other people leapt onto the gay "vote", such as GaGa and Madonna. I have never heard her speak out for gay people, write songs about them, go to pride, etc. My point was that Mariah winning an award for "tirelessly working" to advance the gay movement is pretty strange because she never mentions gay people anywhere ever (almost). To reiterate (and stick it in capital letters in your head): it's not a "gay people like you award" as I understand it. Thus, I was actually wondering if there was some sort of work she did that I missed. If it's about gay people liking you and you donating to AIDS charities then let's award, oh I dunno, David Beckham? He went to G-A-Y once, too. Rather than try to score some easy thumbs up by jumping on the bandwagon, why not just answer the question? Now, I'm sure you can understand the above text. Or have somebody translate it into Russian for you if it isn't clear.
(Tuesday 26 April 2016; 16:02)
Mariah (61,635) by Billy from England, UK
I worry for Mariah after seeing all these big stars leaving us. MJ Whitney and Prince, so soon. I think there is more to it than them just going. I believe someone is out to get these stars at a certain time and I just hope nothing happens to Mariah. I don't trust the people she is surrounded by lately either, not even James. I would sooner see her back with Nick and the kids and live a private life somewhere like Australia. That's just my thoughts of late even though I would love a lot more albums etc. I just feel for her and her safety, I don't know if anyone feels the same as me but I thought I would just post what I think.
(Tuesday 26 April 2016; 13:41)
Re: GLAAD award (61,622) (61,634) by Dennis from Miami, FL
It's hilarious that you have to put in a GLAAD award comment. Wasn't that you in the "audience at G-A-Y London performance"? How many years ago was that? Or wasn't that you saying, quote: "I listened to the speech video and I remembered what Mariah was to me when I was a kid. It wasn't a United Nations speech but she ain't ever gonna make them. GaGa and the rest play upon the gay vote like there's no tomorrow. Truth be told Mariah, *definitely* more so than Madonna, was the main vocalist who let her music speak for, and to, the gays without pretension or politicking their vote." (Monday 16 March 2015; 23:04)
(Tuesday 26 April 2016; 12:31)
GLAAD award (61,633) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
Mariah has a huge gay following and has attended various high profile events as a show of support. Of course that doesn't exactly scream "gay advocate" as Mariah deliberately avoids making public political statements of any kind, but who are we exactly to question her merits? This proves that lambs are her worst critics for better or for worse. Is it that hard to just be happy for her? Call this blind allegiance or whatever, but what exactly do we really expect from her? I understand how her musical output, her highly publicized celebrity life and her choice of wardrobe can be divisive, but doubting her merits to awards that I highly doubt she begged for is just a step too far. No wonder it's such a challenge for her to win the world over like she did before - she can hardly do it within this board.
(Tuesday 26 April 2016; 11:45)
Glaad award (61,631) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
I see many fans on the messageboard feel MC is not deserving of her Glaad honor and I have to disagree. While MC may not be the most vocal about her alliances to different causes groups ect doesn't mean she does not lend her support or celebrity. Many entertainers are awarded nowadays for the sake awarded and no one makes a big deal out of it. To me it seems every time MC is awarded or doing something it's a big deal or issue. I say why not allow her to be rewarded obviously Glaad felt she was deemed honorable for this award. Much love everyone who supports MC on this messageboard.
(Tuesday 26 April 2016; 1:22)
Re: GLAAD award (61,622) (61,630) by ADAM from USA
I'm actually surprised she's getting this award. She's so vague in her direct support for gays and treads the line to not overtly say that her Christian values conflicts with her gay fanbase. But on the other side of it, I know all award shows including this GLAAD event are all stunts created by big PR machines who pay large sums of money for an image re-hauling. Just brace yourself for another "look inside yourself" speech filled with the same antidotes she always uses about the 2 gay men who babysat for her when she was young and how much she always felt like an outside or not pretty growing up. Personally, I feel that her career has been fueled and sustained by the love and devotion largely from her gay fanbase. With all the money we've spent watching her shows and buying her music we deserve more than a vague IG post for marriage equality or an image of a gay couple in the video for IWTKWLI. She could be another gay iconic diva like Bette Midler or Cher or Barbra Streisand if she wanted too but clearly she rather count her money and not rock the boat. Meanwhile, she employs a house full of gay men including her hair dresser and makeup artist to her stylist and former tour manager. Such a shame. [Webmaster: Antidotes? Don't you mean anecdotes?]
(Monday 25 April 2016; 23:38)
Re: GLAAD award (61,622) (61,629) by Marissa from USA
I agree. She may have acknowledged them here or there and she obviously has gay people in her camp but she has not championed gay rights publicly to the point where a GLAAD award is deserved. She hates being seen as political so she avoids championing most social issues like the plague.
(Monday 25 April 2016; 22:27)
Re: Ageism and sexism in sexuality (61,616) (61,628) by Travon..SweetSweetFantasy from USA
[censored] Also, I dont really care for you and I don't owe you anything. I will comment as I please. You gave your opinion and I gave mine. Thank you for saying that I make dumb comments. You just raised my already high IQ. It makes me happy to know that you read my comments. I will always do what I have always done here and call you out. Don't you ever come for me. Worry about not catching a hate case against woman. I wont be responding to you again about this. Good day.
(Monday 25 April 2016; 22:27)
Re: Mariah "meltdown" (61,621) (61,627) by B from USA
It wasn't a meltdown. The fans were preventing her from giving it her all.
(Monday 25 April 2016; 20:48)

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