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Re: #Beautiful (62,050) (62,104) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End #Beautiful suffered not only because of M's physical injuries but also because her personal life really wasn't a happy one and she was a first time mother to two babies. Context is everything. But #Beautiful is interesting to me because it created a buzz around Mariah in the Swedish entertainment press that has lasted until today. It made several year end lists in 2013 with music journalists salivating at the mere thought of what would eventually be MIAMTEC and gets mentioned in almost every single (Swedish) SSFT concert review. That's a platinum song, yes, but it dropped 3 years ago and blasé music critics are still thirsty for it. I'm telling you all, Mariah needs to cater to the European market as much as she does the US. She could be dominating here again very easily. A lot more easily than in America IMHO. I'm gonna DM Stella and everyone on Team Mariah a list. This forum is too public or I would have already posted the list last year when I got it in my head. Nobody on MC's level has ever attempted to do what I am proposing. She's really the only superstar (alive) my plan suits. Anybody random couldn't do it even if the ideas are pretty simple and low intensity. And now it's the perfect time with how efficient and go-getter her team is. I don't know, but I could be right. These things make me squee. Anyway, Memoirs was a good effort IMO but the subject matters didn't mesh with what we thought we knew was her personal life at all (at the time). There was a disconnect. The only one since Glitter as far as I'm concerned and that was a soundtrack, so what can you do? We have historical context now, but back then it didn't really make creative sense that she's was writing about long lost love and breakups because of infidelities (?) when she was a newlywed. Not that everything a songwriter writes is literal but it was weird that Memoirs was at once her most nostalgic and prosaic to the point of cynical where her lyrics about love were concerned up til then. On E=MC2 it was the very different, she had a light and hopeful take on romantic love. I wouldn't have known she was married, happy and in love with her soulmate trying for a baby, listening to the Memoirs album. Obviously she wasn't, but neither she nor the public knew that then. Memoirs only makes sense after MIAMTEC as a prelude IMHO. And that's sad to think about too long. (Friday 13 May 2016; 20:21)

Re: I've missed you (61,735) (61,740) (62,103) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End First off: Hey Boo, it's been like a century but it's great to see a familiar face on MCA. I purposely avoided posting here and even lurking because the Mariah bashing can be so toxic on here and I knew I wanted my Sweet Sweet Fantasy Tour experience to be unsullied. It was the best choice I could have made because I now have memories for life I have shared with real lambs. It was refreshing to not have to defend her to anyone I met because we were all actual fans of her voice, music, lyrics and personality. Not once did someone lie and say she didn't sing live. Or that she didn't look the best she ever has and her entire entourage is all-star. Thanks for the shout out B. (Friday 13 May 2016; 20:03)

Re: The powers that be (62,058) (62,102) by Warrior Butterfly from USA Mariah Carey - Alone In Love Emotions - You're So Cold Musicbox - Never Forget You (Radio Edit) Merry Christmas - Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) Daydream - Melt Away Butterfly - Fly Away (Butterfly Reprise) Rainbow - After Tonight Glitter - If We Charmbracelet- Subtle Invitation TEOM - Mine Again E=MC2 - O.O.C. MOAIA - Standing O MCIIY - O Little Town of Bethlehem MIAMTEC - Make It Look Good (Friday 13 May 2016; 19:11)

Re: The powers that be (62,101) by Billy from England, UK Mariah Carey - I Don't Wanna Cry Emotions - Till The End Of Time Music box - Any Time You Need A Friend Daydream - When I Saw You Butterfly - Whenever You call Rainbow - After Tonight Charmbracelet - Yours TEOM - I Wish You Knew E=MC2 - For The Record MOIA - Ribbon MIAM - Money (Friday 13 May 2016; 19:06)

Doc-u-series (62,100) by Zac Mills from United States I wonder when it will air and if we will find out a date soon. I think it sounds like the tour will take Mariah to Brazil in Octpber as this was confirmed by one of her dancers on twitter. Sad there were no pictures of Mariah and her mom on Mothers Day. It would appear they are not as close but we are on the outside so we don't know anything that goes on in Mariah's world. The picture of Mariah from the Daily Mail shows her holding hands with Brian Tanaka's mom though and that is a little bizarre. He is the dancer in the infamous lap dance. He has a video on snapchat of him and his mom on what appears to be Mariah's California property but no sign of James. Maybe Mariah is going down the JLo route with a dancer. Only kidding. This board needs to lighten up a bit. Its been way too tense in here. I have been an avid reader of the MCA's for a long time and thought I would join and post finally. I wonder if we will see all these behind the scenes things on the doc-u-series. Mimi L I adore your posts and how you always put up to date pics and such. Do you have a twitter or FB account? It would be nice to see or follow some of you guys off MCA. (Friday 13 May 2016; 19:03)

Re: Memoirs, Rainbow and MIAMTEC (62,080) (62,099) by darrian liu from taiwan Although she does experiment from time to time, there are still many genres that she hasn't touched but surely could spin gold out of them. EDM is actually one of those genres. Mariah has never experimented with EDM (Meteorite wasn't EDM, it was disco pop) and I'm sure she could make something good from it. She also hasn't recorded any full-blown jazz song as well although she's dipped into those territories live from time to time. I think it's time for Mariah to get back into the lab, mix genres together and create something she will be remembered for again, like what she did with the Fantasy Bad Boy Remix. I don't think Help Me Make It Through The Night and Right To Dream are country enough to be considered as Mariah's forays into country (they're great songs btw). The pop ballad side of them still shines more, although there are some country influences to them. They sound like Tori Kelly's acoustic ballads, which are of course pop soul ballads. I would consider Mariah having a country song if she does something like Beyoncé's Daddy Lessons, a song that is undeniably country, not just a pop ballad with country influences. (Friday 13 May 2016; 18:46)

Re: The powers that be (62,098) by Jeff from USA Mariah Carey: Prisoner Emotions: And You Don't Remember Music Box: All I've Ever Wanted Merry Christmas: Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) Daydream: Melt Away Butterfly: Close My Eyes Rainbow: X-Girlfriend Glitter: I Didn't Mean to Turn You On Charmbracelet: Yours TEOM: Stay the Night E=MC2: Side Effects MOAIA: Inseparable MCIIY: O Holy Night (Live Version) MIAMTEC: Cry (Friday 13 May 2016; 17:55)

Lost? (62,097) by Travon..SweetSweetFantasy from USA If you got stranded on an island or a roadless uninhabited land and could only bring 5 Mariah songs with you, what would they be? (Friday 13 May 2016; 17:35)

Re: The powers that be (62,091) (62,096) by Licia from USA Mariah Carey: Alone in Love Emotions: If It's Over Music Box: All I've Ever Wanted Merry Christmas: Santa Claus is Coming to Town Daydream: Melt Away Butterfly: Babydoll Rainbow: Bliss Glitter: I Didn't Mean to Turn You On Charmbracelet: Yours TEOM: One and Only E=MC2: Last Kiss MOAIA: The Impossible MCIIY: Here Comes Santa Claus MIAMTEC: Faded, Faded, and Faded again lol (Friday 13 May 2016; 16:36)

Re: The powers that be (62,083) (62,095) by Jhonny from Guyana Mariah Carey: Alone in love Emotions: And you don't remember / So blessed Music Box: All I'v ever wanted Daydream: I am free / When I saw you / Melt away Butterfly: Close my eyes / The beautiful ones Rainbow: How much Glitter: I didn't mean to turn you on Charmbracelet: Subtle invitation TEOM: I wish you knew E=MC: Thanx for nothin / Cruise control / Side effects MOAIA: It's a wrap MIAMTEC: Meteorite / Migrate (Friday 13 May 2016; 15:54)

Re: Memoirs, Rainbow and MIAMTEC (62,080) (62,094) by Andrew from UK Randy, to say that Mariah has done rock and country etc is a little misleading. It suggests she's eclectic as a musician and she isn't. I wouldn't say Mariah has "done reggae" because of Cruise Control. Mariah needs to focus on dance and make an upbeat record feat. the likes of YDKWTD and Meteorite. It's odd for lambs to bleat that "she's making the music she wants to make" but in the next breath day how these songs are the best and so refreshing etc. Taylor and Rihanna sit on top of the charts because their music sounds current and fits the trends. Mariah used to do this. Rainbow sounded really current in 99/00 (with awful singles choices again - who on earth thought anyone would listen to the cheesy named "Mariah's Theme" on the radio or watch that cheese video on TV?) but Glitter and Charmbracelet didn't belong on the charts and so she disappeared. The same happened with Memoirs. It was a kiss goodbye to popularity. I'm shocked you like those albums. But you like Right To Dream don't you? And that is as soporific as Mariah gets. (Friday 13 May 2016; 14:37)

Catalog (62,093) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) As a fan forever, I can say Mariah has provided an everlasting soundtrack for so many people. Out of all the albums released during the 90's I would say Rainbow falls short most because the was no central theme or story it was rushed due to her on going problems with Mottola and Sony. I feel Mariah was planning an escape anyway she could and Rainbow was just that. In the 00's Mariah experienced career highs, low, and resurgence but in my opinion even though Memiors was great in the aspect of telling a story the production watered the album down and made it stale. But overall I can appreciate Mariah for giving her fans the variety she has over her over two decade career. (Friday 13 May 2016; 13:14)

I find it funny (62,092) by Giovanni from USA How certain people are always coming for Mariah talking about how damaged her voice was by '99. But yet in that year she could still out shine and sing circles around every singer today. Mariah recorded album after album touring for a whole decade. She was constantly working dedicated to her music. So it's no wonder her voice declined. My voice would probably decline too. And let's not forget the fact that Mariah's songs are not hard to sing. She probably has the most vocally challenging songs out of any female singer. She sacrificed her voice and body for her fans so I will always be grateful for that. (Friday 13 May 2016; 13:14)

Re: The powers that be (62,058) (62,091) by Travon..SweetSweetFantasy from USA Here's my choices: Mariah Carey: Prisoner Emotions: If It's Over Music Box: All I Ever Wanted Merry Christmas: Miss You Most (At Christmas Time) Daydream: I Am Free Butterfly: Whenever You Call ft Brian Mcknight Rainbow: How Much ft Usher Glitter: Want You ft Eric Benét Charmbracelet: You Got Me ft Jay Z and Freeway TEOM: So Lonely(One & Only PII) ft Twista E=MC2: Migrate MOAIA: Candy Bling MCIIY: none MIAMTEC: without a doubt, Faded (Friday 13 May 2016; 13:02)

Re: The powers that be (62,058) (62,090) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines For me, these are the more radio-friendly tracks that sound the least dated in their respective albums: Mariah Carey: Sent From Up Above Emotions: none Music Box: I've Been Thinking About You Merry Christmas: none Daydream: Melt Away Butterfly: Babydoll Rainbow: How Much Glitter: Want You Charmbracelet: Subtle Invitation TEOM: So Lonely (One And Only Pt. II) / Secret Love E=MC2: Side Effects MOAIA: Ribbon MCIIY: none MIAMTEC: Faded (Friday 13 May 2016; 9:40)

Re: The powers that be (62,076) (62,089) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines True. But for me it's a tossup between Lullaby or Subtle Invitation depending on my mood. Those are the sexiest tracks on Charmbracelet. (Friday 13 May 2016; 9:09)

I Only Wanted is from Charmbracelet (62,088) by MC1989 from Spain Not from Rainbow. Lol. It's the second post I read with that mistake. Maybe you're refering to After Tonight. (Friday 13 May 2016; 8:21)

Re: The powers that be (62,076) (62,087) by Bill from the UK Mariah Carey - All In Your Mind Emotions - And You Don't Remember Music Box - Now That I Know Merry Christmas - Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) Daydream - When I Saw You Butterfly - Fourth of July Rainbow - X-Girlfriend Glitter - If We Charmbracelet - The One Emancipation - Fly Like a Bird E=MC2 - Migrate Memoirs - Ribbon MC2U - The First Noel Me I Am Mariah - Make It Look Good (Friday 13 May 2016; 7:28)

Re: Memoirs (62,071) (62,086) by 123 from USA I agree completely. It's never been the music that has been the problem, we all have albums that we don't really care for, but any fan on the board could have picked the right singles from every album and come up with a better roll out and promotional plan. Her promoting the album was very sparse versus her running around everywhere with Lee to help him promote Precious and hope for a supporting actress nomination. (Friday 13 May 2016; 6:05)

Memoirs (62,085) by 123 from USA I'm the minority. I do like Memoirs. It had a lot of songs that could have done well on radio. The downfall of the album is the same co-songwriter and producer. The problem with Tricky and mostly The Dream is that they are very one note and not diverse enough at all to make a Mariah album. For some reason they decided to make most of the songs in the same tempo which can make the album sound like one long song. The Dream's lyrical involvement didn't help either. I skip Candy Bling as I feel it's a boring song with silly lyrics, it puts me to sleep. I think HateU is a well written song, but sounds somewhat sluggish. The remake sounds like the took a lunch break at the end of the song and never came back to finish it. It still has a lot of strong songs. Betcha Gon Know should have been a single. It was charting and it wasn't even released. Had they made a video to play out the lyrics, it could have really done well. Her walking in to her lover in the bed with someone else. Angels Cry is an underrated ballad, even if it comes from the WBT family, it's still well written and a ballad she could actually sing live if she wanted to. Should have been the second single. My favorite song on the album is It's A Wrap. I love when she does doo wop type songs. It's another song I wish would have been a single. Ribbon has a super catchy melody and puts me in a good mood and Inseparable, Standing O, are strong songs. Impossible is an underrated baby making love ballad. It's hypnotic. Languishing is one of the deepest songs she's ever written and I connect with the sadness of it. Obsessed is one of her best uptempos, she did go left on that song lol. Had she promoted that song it could have went number 1 as it rose to number 7 and went platinum. (Friday 13 May 2016; 5:55)

Re: The powers that be (62,058) (62,084) by Merr Hasenan from Malaysia Mariah Carey - Alone In Love Emotions - And You Don't Remember Unplugged - Someday Music Box - All I've Ever Wanted Merry Christmas - Hark. The Herald Angles Sing/Gloria Daydream - Melt Away Butterfly - Close My Eyes Rainbow - After Tonight Glitter - If We Charmbracelet - Clown T.E.O.M. - One and Only E=MC2 - For The Record M.O.A.I.A. - Betcha Gon' Know M.I.A.M. - Meteorite (Friday 13 May 2016; 5:26)

Re: The powers that be (62,058) (62,083) by Mirage_Nunez from America Mariah Carey- Prisoner Emotions- To Be Around You Music Box- Music Box Daydream- Daydream interlude / Long Ago Butterfly- Butterfly interlude / Outside Rainbow- Bliss Glitter- Didn't Mean To Turn You On Charmbraclet- The One TEOM- Mine Again, Circles, or I Wish You Only Knew E=MC2- Migrate Memoirs- Becha Gon Know, Candy Bling, Inseparable, or It's a Wrap MIAM- Meteorite or Faded (or YDKWYD) (Friday 13 May 2016; 4:16)

Re: The powers that be (62,058) (62,082) by darrian liu from taiwan My list would look like this: Debut - Sent From Up Above Emotions - You're So Cold Music Box - Now That I Know Daydream - Long Ago Butterfly - Breakdown (full blown single, not just an airplay single) Rainbow - How Much Glitter - Didn't Mean to Turn You On Charmbracelet - Subtle Invitation TEOM - Stay the Night or To the Floor E=MC2 - Cruise Control MOAIA - Standing O (Friday 13 May 2016; 4:14)

Great choices (62,081) by Haiji Toro from USA, SOUTH FLORIDA I appreciate the feedback (Giovanni, George, MC1989 and Sheila). Those were all great songs. MC1989, why'd you leave out a song for Rainbow? I honestly never payed attention to To Be Around You, now I have to listen to it. I wonder what I missed about it. Meteorite is definitely a good song. I do wish that she had experimented on other songs off MIAMTEC like she did on Meteorite. Here's my list: Mariah Carey: Vanashing Emotions: Till The End of Time Music Box: Now That I Know Merry Christmas: Miss You Most (At Christmas Time) Daydream: Long Ago Butterfly: Babydoll Rainbow: After Tonight Glitter: Want You Charmbracelet: Subtle Invitation The Emancipation of Mimi: Joy Ride E=MC2: For the Record MOAIA: Standing O MIAMTEC: Faded *Just to clarify, these are not favorites that I chose, although some are. This list is only based on my opinion of what songs I feel would become hits (maybe Top 40) if were to be released as current singles. Hope you like the list. (Friday 13 May 2016; 4:13)

Memoirs, Rainbow and MIAMTEC (62,080) by Randy from USA I disagree with so much said about these three albums. I love Memoirs because it was such drama. Becha Gon Know is completely different from how she has ever opened an album. She also gave us interludes which so many fans were complaining that she didn't. I love the cheesy metaphors on More Than Just Friends, Up Out My Face, Candy Bling. I love Obsessed and its video (classic MC) and Languishing to me is a return to deep introspective lyrics like Petals, Looking In, Outside and Close My Eyes. Rainbow is only a disappointment because it comes after Butterfly. I can listen to everything on it. The only issue is her voice was in such bad shape in 99/00 she did a whole bunch of lip syncing during its promotional tour. I do not like MIAMTEC and if you read all the critical reviews for it that were so great, they're all backhanded compliments. I feel that album was too "neo earthy soul" and her vocals on it are awful with notes she'd never be able to duplicate live. I disagree with whoever said she doesn't experiment outside of R&B. You do not know her catalogue. She's done country, look up Help Me Make It Through The Night. She's done rock, look up Bringin On The Heartbreak and even EDM with Meteorite. While she loves Hip Hop/R&B she will always give us a taste of something else. (Friday 13 May 2016; 3:15)

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