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Memoirs (62,085) by 123 from USA
I'm the minority. I do like Memoirs. It had a lot of songs that could have done well on radio. The downfall of the album is the same co-songwriter and producer. The problem with Tricky and mostly The Dream is that they are very one note and not diverse enough at all to make a Mariah album. For some reason they decided to make most of the songs in the same tempo which can make the album sound like one long song. The Dream's lyrical involvement didn't help either. I skip Candy Bling as I feel it's a boring song with silly lyrics, it puts me to sleep. I think HateU is a well written song, but sounds somewhat sluggish. The remake sounds like the took a lunch break at the end of the song and never came back to finish it. It still has a lot of strong songs. Betcha Gon Know should have been a single. It was charting and it wasn't even released. Had they made a video to play out the lyrics, it could have really done well. Her walking in to her lover in the bed with someone else. Angels Cry is an underrated ballad, even if it comes from the WBT family, it's still well written and a ballad she could actually sing live if she wanted to. Should have been the second single. My favorite song on the album is It's A Wrap. I love when she does doo wop type songs. It's another song I wish would have been a single. Ribbon has a super catchy melody and puts me in a good mood and Inseparable, Standing O, are strong songs. Impossible is an underrated baby making love ballad. It's hypnotic. Languishing is one of the deepest songs she's ever written and I connect with the sadness of it. Obsessed is one of her best uptempos, she did go left on that song lol. Had she promoted that song it could have went number 1 as it rose to number 7 and went platinum.
(Friday 13 May 2016; 5:55)
Re: The powers that be (62,058) (62,084) by Merr Hasenan from Malaysia
Mariah Carey - Alone In Love
Emotions - And You Don't Remember
Unplugged - Someday
Music Box - All I've Ever Wanted
Merry Christmas - Hark. The Herald Angles Sing/Gloria
Daydream - Melt Away
Butterfly - Close My Eyes
Rainbow - After Tonight
Glitter - If We
Charmbracelet - Clown
T.E.O.M. - One and Only
E=MC2 - For The Record
M.O.A.I.A. - Betcha Gon' Know
M.I.A.M. - Meteorite
(Friday 13 May 2016; 5:26)
Re: The powers that be (62,058) (62,083) by Mirage_Nunez from America
Mariah Carey- Prisoner
Emotions- To Be Around You
Music Box- Music Box
Daydream- Daydream interlude / Long Ago
Butterfly- Butterfly interlude / Outside
Rainbow- Bliss
Glitter- Didn't Mean To Turn You On
Charmbraclet- The One
TEOM- Mine Again, Circles, or I Wish You Only Knew
E=MC2- Migrate
Memoirs- Becha Gon Know, Candy Bling, Inseparable, or It's a Wrap
MIAM- Meteorite or Faded (or YDKWYD)
(Friday 13 May 2016; 4:16)
Re: The powers that be (62,058) (62,082) by darrian liu from taiwan
My list would look like this:
Debut - Sent From Up Above
Emotions - You're So Cold
Music Box - Now That I Know
Daydream - Long Ago
Butterfly - Breakdown (full blown single, not just an airplay single)
Rainbow - How Much
Glitter - Didn't Mean to Turn You On
Charmbracelet - Subtle Invitation
TEOM - Stay the Night or To the Floor
E=MC2 - Cruise Control
MOAIA - Standing O
(Friday 13 May 2016; 4:14)
Great choices (62,081) by Haiji Toro from USA, SOUTH FLORIDA
I appreciate the feedback (Giovanni, George, MC1989 and Sheila). Those were all great songs. MC1989, why'd you leave out a song for Rainbow? I honestly never payed attention to To Be Around You, now I have to listen to it. I wonder what I missed about it. Meteorite is definitely a good song. I do wish that she had experimented on other songs off MIAMTEC like she did on Meteorite. Here's my list:
Mariah Carey: Vanashing
Emotions: Till The End of Time
Music Box: Now That I Know
Merry Christmas: Miss You Most (At Christmas Time)
Daydream: Long Ago
Butterfly: Babydoll
Rainbow: After Tonight
Glitter: Want You
Charmbracelet: Subtle Invitation
The Emancipation of Mimi: Joy Ride
E=MC2: For the Record
MOAIA: Standing O
MIAMTEC: Faded
*Just to clarify, these are not favorites that I chose, although some are. This list is only based on my opinion of what songs I feel would become hits (maybe Top 40) if were to be released as current singles. Hope you like the list.
(Friday 13 May 2016; 4:13)
Memoirs, Rainbow and MIAMTEC (62,080) by Randy from USA
I disagree with so much said about these three albums. I love Memoirs because it was such drama. Becha Gon Know is completely different from how she has ever opened an album. She also gave us interludes which so many fans were complaining that she didn't. I love the cheesy metaphors on More Than Just Friends, Up Out My Face, Candy Bling. I love Obsessed and its video (classic MC) and Languishing to me is a return to deep introspective lyrics like Petals, Looking In, Outside and Close My Eyes. Rainbow is only a disappointment because it comes after Butterfly. I can listen to everything on it. The only issue is her voice was in such bad shape in 99/00 she did a whole bunch of lip syncing during its promotional tour. I do not like MIAMTEC and if you read all the critical reviews for it that were so great, they're all backhanded compliments. I feel that album was too "neo earthy soul" and her vocals on it are awful with notes she'd never be able to duplicate live. I disagree with whoever said she doesn't experiment outside of R&B. You do not know her catalogue. She's done country, look up Help Me Make It Through The Night. She's done rock, look up Bringin On The Heartbreak and even EDM with Meteorite. While she loves Hip Hop/R&B she will always give us a taste of something else.
(Friday 13 May 2016; 3:15)
Re: Memoirs (62,071) (62,079) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada
Mimi L, the whole album has a very summery record vibe to it to me. I love the wit humor referencing the lyrics of other artists, and very distinct Mariahisms, with her George Foreman and her Jimmy Choo's and her clever homage to Cindi Lauper's "Time After Time". I also love the play on words she uses throughout. It's a very visual album lyrically too. I think she had fun taking on characters in the songs very much like a diary (or whatever mood you're in when you write a diary entry). She managed to balance throwback musically, and yet be contemporary at the same time which I've always found to be quite brilliant on this record. I get that it's not for everybody. For me it has this mood and atmospheric quality about it that is very different from other work. It can be ethereal at times yet lyrically songs like H.A.T.E.U. Angel's Cry and Languishing all pack a emotional punch with the storyteller depth to them. I think the lyrics to H.A.T.E.U lent themselves to a different video concept. No sense wasting energy on what can not be changed though. It's such a beautiful record for me. Up there with Butterfly and Daydream.
(Friday 13 May 2016; 1:54)
Re: The powers that be (62,072) (62,078) by Ty from USA
Mariah Carey - All I ever wanted
Emotions - And you don't remember
Unplugged - Can't let go
Music Box - Everything Fades Away
Merry Christmas - Miss you most
Daydream - Melt Away
Butterfly - Butterfly remixes
Rainbow - I only wanted
Glitter - Lead the way
Charmbracelet - You Had Your Chance
T.E.O.M. - Fly like a bird
E=MC2 - Thanks for nothing
M.O.A.I.A. - Betcha Gon' Know
M.I.A.M. - Faded
(Friday 13 May 2016; 1:53)
Re: Albums and (62,073) (62,077) by BIGGEST MC FAN from UNITED STATES
Mariah Carey - All In Your Mind
Emotions - You're So Cold
Unplugged - If It's Over
Music box - Everything Fades Away
Daydream - Long Ago
Butterfly - Breakdown
Rainbow - X-Girlfriend
Charmbracelet - Yours
TEOM - Stay The Night
E=MC2 - For The Record
MOIA - It's A Wrap
MIAM - Dedicated
(Friday 13 May 2016; 1:34)
Re: The powers that be (62,072) (62,076) by MC1989 from Spain
Sorry, from Charmbracelet I would choose "Lullaby". Great song.
(Friday 13 May 2016; 0:33)
Re: Mishka (62,070) (62,075) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
In my last message I meant "it wasn't intentional". They just forgot.
(Friday 13 May 2016; 0:33)
Albums and (62,073) by Sheila from United States
Mariah Carey - All alone in love
Emotions - Till the end of time
Unplugged - If it's over
Music box - Music Box
Daydream - Melt away
Butterfly - Butterfly/The roof - not proper singles
Rainbow - I only wanted
Charmbracelet - Subtle Invitation
TEOM - Mine Again
E=MC2 - Thanks for nothing
MOIA - Standing O
MIAM - Faded
(Friday 13 May 2016; 0:25)
Re: The powers that be (62,066) (62,072) by MC1989 from Spain
Mariah Carey - Sent From Up Above
Emotions - To Be Around You
Unplugged - Someday
Music Box - Everything Fades Away
Merry Christmas - Jesus Oh What A Wonderful Child
Daydream - Melt Away
Butterfly - The Beautiful Ones
Rainbow -
Glitter - Didn't Mean To Turn You On
Charmbracelet - You Had Your Chance
T.E.O.M. - Stay The Night
E=MC2 - I'M That Chick
M.O.A.I.A. - Betcha Gon' Know
M.I.A.M. - Meteorite
(Friday 13 May 2016; 0:04)
Re: Memoirs (62,057) (62,071) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
Deedre, I love the whole laid back vibe to it. Yes some of the songs sound similar but I don't mind it, the whole thing feels like diary entries, and like a consistent story. I also like that it has a balance of more matured songs (like BGK, "The Impossible" and "It's a Wrap") and sickly sweet (in a cute way) songs (like "Insperable" and "Ribbon") and then we have the not so serious, fun, diss songs ("Obsessed" and "UOOMF"). This album is one of those that could target both the teenagers and adults. It had something for everyone. I also wouldn't put the blame of the album not working on the producers or writers. I don't think they were uninspired. The reason the album didn't work was again, its lack of proper promotions and proper videos. BGK was already charting without any promo or being released as a single. H.A.T.E.U. video did not have an interesting story line and should have been backed up almost immediately with the hot So So Def remix. UUOMF could have been bigger had they promoted it more. It was yet another messy era.
(Thursday 12 May 2016; 23:05)
Re: Mishka (62,059) (62,070) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
Mariah's team was never really creative with her social media. So I don't think that there being no posts is intentional. They just forgot about it. Stella already made the "tour is over, thank you post". Since Mariah doesn't use her own account, we can assume her team just forgot about it.
(Thursday 12 May 2016; 22:52)
Re: Rainbox is weak (62,055) (62,069) by Tijl from Belgium
I do agree that Rainbow is redundant. I hardly ever listen to it besides a few singles. However one should understand that Mariah rushed into this record to finish off her record deal. Much of the work she started on for the movie that became "Glitter" ended up on this record hence the lacklustre outcome. I love AAO though.
(Thursday 12 May 2016; 22:41)
Metorite (62,068) by George Golden from UK
How on earth was this song not the follow up single to #Beautiful? Travesty.
(Thursday 12 May 2016; 22:23)
Re: Memoirs vs Rainbow (62,065) (62,067) by BIGGEST MC FAN from UNITED STATES
Yeah she's an extremely talented songwriter. She created a new Christmas song on the spot at a live concert. I just wish she tried something new.
(Thursday 12 May 2016; 22:07)
Re: The powers that be (62,058) (62,066) by George Golden from UK
Mariah Carey - All in your mind
Emotions - To be around you
Unplugged - If it's over
Music box - I've been thinking about you
Daydream - Melt away
Butterfly - Close my eyes
Rainbow - X-girlfriend
Charmbracelet - You got me
TEOM - Make it last all night
E=MC2 - That chick
MOIA - More than just friends
MIAM - Meteorite
(Thursday 12 May 2016; 21:56)
Re: Memoirs vs Rainbow (62,061) (62,065) by ADAM from USA
I like your assessment of the 2 albums. I agree. I feel she's not adventurous outside of RnB and Hip Hop. It's like we get it. You love these 2 genres and will always make records in these veins however I think she needs to push herself and make bolder choices. Beyonce is a excellent example of this with Lemonade. She has a country song, clubs songs, introspective songs, and angry songs. I just feel Mariah repeats her own success time and time again and it's boring. She's has 2 great instruments (voice and songwriting) but needs to work with different producers to become challenged again and make different material. However I bet despite all our rantings she's working again with Big Jim Wright, JD, and Mike Will Made to name a few. Ughhh.
(Thursday 12 May 2016; 21:27)
Re: The powers that be (62,058) (62,064) by Giovanni from USA
Cool question, mine would easily be:
"Mariah Carey" - "Prisoner"
"Emotions" - "To be around you"
"Music Box" - "Now that I know"
"Daydream" - "Melt away"
"Butterfly" - "The beautiful ones"
"Rainbow" - "How much"
"Chrambracelet" - "The one"
"The Emancipation Of Mimi" -"Stay the night"
(Thursday 12 May 2016; 21:04)
Re: Memoirs vs Rainbow (62,061) (62,063) by Giovanni from USA
"Her voice also sounds damaged on it", yet still better than any singer today haha. You keep trying Mariah.
(Thursday 12 May 2016; 20:52)
Re: Taylor Swift Award? (62,046) (62,062) by BIGGEST MC FAN from UNITED STATES
TEOM is very similar to Butterfly but it was truly a good album with sleek production. That's really the only good album she has made after Butterfly. It's really sad honestly because she's incredibly talented. She refused to experiment with other genres other than hiphop/rnb out of her own pride. She dissed Madonna for constantly reinventing herself. Now she gets to watch people like Taylor Swift being honored as songwriters and its her own fault.
(Thursday 12 May 2016; 20:39)
Re: Memoirs vs Rainbow (62,047) (62,061) by BIGGEST MC FAN from UNITED STATES
I like neither. Rainbow's production was terrible and the only good song on the album sounded like a mixture of Dreamlover and Fantasy. Her voice also sounded damaged on it. It was such a huge backtrack from Butterfly. Memoirs sounds like a mixture of TEOM and E=MC2. I don't like that she plays it safe. It's the same old predictable stuff from her and that's why nobody really cares for her music anymore. It seems like she's stuck in her own little world and thinks it's still 2005.
(Thursday 12 May 2016; 20:24)
Re: Memoirs (62,050) (62,060) by Giovanni from USA
What do you mean you don't blame Mariah? It was her album. She could have easily said "I don't like this". I have always thought The Dream was awful. He has had no success, no artistry, no musicianship and isn't talented. I never understood why Mariah worked with him.
(Thursday 12 May 2016; 19:46)

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