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Re: The powers that be (62,058) (62,066) by George Golden from UK Mariah Carey - All in your mind Emotions - To be around you Unplugged - If it's over Music box - I've been thinking about you Daydream - Melt away Butterfly - Close my eyes Rainbow - X-girlfriend Charmbracelet - You got me TEOM - Make it last all night E=MC2 - That chick MOIA - More than just friends MIAM - Meteorite (Thursday 12 May 2016; 21:56)

Re: Memoirs vs Rainbow (62,061) (62,065) by ADAM from USA I like your assessment of the 2 albums. I agree. I feel she's not adventurous outside of RnB and Hip Hop. It's like we get it. You love these 2 genres and will always make records in these veins however I think she needs to push herself and make bolder choices. Beyonce is a excellent example of this with Lemonade. She has a country song, clubs songs, introspective songs, and angry songs. I just feel Mariah repeats her own success time and time again and it's boring. She's has 2 great instruments (voice and songwriting) but needs to work with different producers to become challenged again and make different material. However I bet despite all our rantings she's working again with Big Jim Wright, JD, and Mike Will Made to name a few. Ughhh. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 21:27)

Re: The powers that be (62,058) (62,064) by Giovanni from USA Cool question, mine would easily be: "Mariah Carey" - "Prisoner" "Emotions" - "To be around you" "Music Box" - "Now that I know" "Daydream" - "Melt away" "Butterfly" - "The beautiful ones" "Rainbow" - "How much" "Chrambracelet" - "The one" "The Emancipation Of Mimi" -"Stay the night" (Thursday 12 May 2016; 21:04)

Re: Memoirs vs Rainbow (62,061) (62,063) by Giovanni from USA "Her voice also sounds damaged on it", yet still better than any singer today haha. You keep trying Mariah. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 20:52)

Re: Taylor Swift Award? (62,046) (62,062) by BIGGEST MC FAN from UNITED STATES TEOM is very similar to Butterfly but it was truly a good album with sleek production. That's really the only good album she has made after Butterfly. It's really sad honestly because she's incredibly talented. She refused to experiment with other genres other than hiphop/rnb out of her own pride. She dissed Madonna for constantly reinventing herself. Now she gets to watch people like Taylor Swift being honored as songwriters and its her own fault. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 20:39)

Re: Memoirs vs Rainbow (62,047) (62,061) by BIGGEST MC FAN from UNITED STATES I like neither. Rainbow's production was terrible and the only good song on the album sounded like a mixture of Dreamlover and Fantasy. Her voice also sounded damaged on it. It was such a huge backtrack from Butterfly. Memoirs sounds like a mixture of TEOM and E=MC2. I don't like that she plays it safe. It's the same old predictable stuff from her and that's why nobody really cares for her music anymore. It seems like she's stuck in her own little world and thinks it's still 2005. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 20:24)

Re: Memoirs (62,050) (62,060) by Giovanni from USA What do you mean you don't blame Mariah? It was her album. She could have easily said "I don't like this". I have always thought The Dream was awful. He has had no success, no artistry, no musicianship and isn't talented. I never understood why Mariah worked with him. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 19:46)

Re: Mishka (62,032) (62,059) by Warren from Trinidad & Tobago I actually think the social media blank out is intentional. I mean not even a "tour is over" tweet of thanks or appreciation. Maybe they are reworking some stuff, or taking a much needed break before something big. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 19:32)

The powers that be (62,058) by Haiji Toro from USA, SOUTH FLORIDA What if you had the power to choose one non-single track off every album? Beginning with her debut and ending with Memoirs, and release it as a single. Assuming that it will be a hit and not sound outdated. What songs would you choose? (Thursday 12 May 2016; 18:43)

Re: Memoirs (62,045) (62,057) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada I love the whole album start to finish. It is one of my most played. Which is funny to me because some of the lambily absolutely abhor it. We're a diverse bunch. I adore it. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 18:26)

Remixes: ReVisioned (62,056) by Haiji Toro from USA, SOUTH FLORIDA I'm curious about a release like this one. How do you guys feel about a continuation to her Remixes album released by 2020 (only 4 years from now)? Should she even bother? I imagine it to be a double disc as well. The first disc would start where she left off, including b-sides and unreleased music, and the second would have certain past songs reworked with a slight change in sound and new vocals (similar to her newest live versions). I think the new vocals should match her current vocal ability and give each song new life to them. Just a thought. What do you guys think? (Thursday 12 May 2016; 18:14)

Rainbox is weak (62,055) by Sheila from United States Rainbow is the cd I listen to. Never. It bores me. Even the song with Usher was a waste of time. The only song I really like is "I only wanted". (Thursday 12 May 2016; 18:08)

Re: MC (62,036) (62,054) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada Thanks for the shout out, I appreciate where your heart is coming from. We're all part of this community. I am not offended at all. Lol. Thanks for thinking of me. I appreciate it. Mimi L. It's all good. No worries. Let's talk about the music. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 17:52)

Re: Memoirs (62,052) (62,053) by Travon..SweetSweetFantasy from USA I agree. Memoirs is the only album that I can't listen to again. I like Candy Bling and Angels Cry but that's all. There was something wrong with the production. It sounded weak and extremely boring. I listened to it the first time after buying it at retail. I worked hard to get this album. It was sold out everywhere in my local area because of horrible retail stocking. I had to order the album online at Target. It was the first album of hers that I couldn't love after the first listen. Even though it sounded nice after the first listen, I had to skip several songs afterwards. I was dissapointed because usually I love her albums or they grow on me. This album of a mess did not grow on me at all. Luckily we got a awesome Christmas album a year later and a critically acclaimed MIAMTEC in 2014. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 17:05)

Memoirs (62,052) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) I have to agree memoirs was cohesive as it told one long story but the production makes the album very stale quite quickly. MIAM was a turn to form in some ways musically but personal issues behind the scenes killed the moment. As for Taylor Swift another made up award to clout her perfect manufactured image. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 16:33)

Re: Memoirs vs Rainbow (62,047) (62,051) by Philipp from Switzerland I dislike MOAIA too. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 15:46)

Re: Memoirs (62,045) (62,050) by B from USA Memoirs is Mariah's worst release. The songs are indistinguishable. I don't blame Mariah, I blame The Dream and Tricky. They had the opportunity to produce a Mariah Carey album and stuck to their already losing formula. It's boring and uninspired. MIAM is a return to form for Mariah. #Beautiful is/was her best single since 08. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 15:21)

Candy Bling is a great summer song (62,049) by Sheila from United States So very underrated and blissful to me. I wish Mimi would do a b-sides show also and bring some of these cute gems to life. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 15:16)

MOAIA (62,048) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines It's a breakup album, which is weird as it was made at a time when Mariah and Nick were happy. Anyway, I do get Andrew's point that the entire album does sound a bit same-y from start to finish, but that's mainly because of the production and the tempo. Still, the standout songs for me include those that incorporate styles Mariah doesn't do too often: Betcha Gon' Know - the imagery in this is quite cinematic Candy Bling - one of her songs that play on yet don't really seem to go anywhere (in a good way) until she belts out a bit towards the end H.A.T.E.U. - nice, hazy atmospheric background, clever use of boxing metaphor Standing O - the closest the album gets to pure pop, thanks to the punchy keyboards Ribbon - nice, sticky, sickly sweet sound - the aural equivalent of a sugar rush It's A Wrap - could very well be a scene in a play, a delectable slice of doo-wop (Thursday 12 May 2016; 13:30)

Memoirs vs Rainbow (62,047) by Giovanni from USA I'm sorry but I hate "MOAIA". I hardly like any songs off the whole album and feel it is very lackluster. "Rainbow" is definitely way better. At least to me. I feel after "TEOM" Mariah's music went downhill. Which is why I think she tried to go back with "MIAM". "Beautiful" is still the best song she's released. I wonder what other amazing songs she recorded for the album we never got to hear. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 13:14)

Re: Taylor Swift Award? (62,035) (62,046) by Giovanni from USA So I guess "The Emancipation Of Mimi" is the same material Mariah did in the 90's? I'm sorry but you sound very naive. If anything Mariah grew more as an artist with that album. Taking a whole new direction with her sound and music. It's obviously one of her best albums ever. Also, for you to try and compare someone like Talyor Swift to Mariah is a complete insult. Especially as in regards to her voice. As if Taylor's lyrics are so powerful and have meaning. She's very successful, but as a singer and as an artist she falls very short. Mariah never lost her voice either, it changed. Happens to every singer. Celine Dion who still sounds amazing clearly doesn't sound like 1997. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 13:03)

Re: Memoirs (62,031) (62,045) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Haha Licia, I was the one that asked about your favorite songs from MOAIA. I love the songs. More carefree and laid back. BGK is one of her most underrated songs. This album gets a lot of hate from fans, but I hardly ever skip a song on this one. I might get tomatoes thrown at me for saying this but I will pick MOAIA over MIAM any day. MIAM bums me out a little haha. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 12:04)

Re: MC (62,036) (62,044) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Woah "lumped with the other names"? Ouch. And here I thought I was always respectful to you. I adore Deedre and I agree that Deedre's posts are always fair, unbiased and respectful. Your post makes it sound like "the others" which includes my name are trash. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 11:59)

Ian (62,043) by Anthony Basco from Cardiff, Wales Whilst I respect your views, I feel that as a huge fan of somebody, I inevitably get caught up in the legend of them ie the person just as much as their art. For me, it's all part of being a mega fan. Yes, we don't know her, and it's all speculation, but personally I enjoy discussing Mariah as a person as well as her music. I've always been attracted by her magnetic persona, and from what I've seen of her over the years, I feel like she's somebody I really would to have as a friend. Ain't gonna happen, but it's still nice to feel that my favourite musical artist of all time is also a brilliant person. I'm sure it's the same for all super fans of any artist - they want to discuss the person as much the music. There's nothing wrong with it, it's just being a fan. Anyway, just my two cents, and as this is a Mariah Carey fan site and not just a "The Music of Mariah Carey" fan site, I'm going to continue discussing all aspects of this extraordinary artist and person. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 11:46)

Memoirs (62,042) by Anthony Basco from Cardiff, Wales Haha Licia, yes that's a pretty good sign that you really do actually love that album. I feel the same about (don't hate me) Rainbow. There are so many songs I love on that album, but it's by far my least favourite. It's the only single album of M's that I just have never been able to feel a connect with, even though I love Heartbreaker (and its remix), CTTA, Bliss, Crybaby, Petals and TGIFY. I agree with Ty that Betcha Gon' Know would have been a brilliant opportunity for an epic video, but I also think there were a lot of songs there that had that potential, especially It's A Wrap (I was also disappointed by the videos for HateU, Angel's Cry and IWKWLI, amazing songs who's videos let them down). Andrew, no, on the contrary, I find the album one of the most cohesive of Mariah's career. I really feel like she starts with a story and takes it through its stages until that glorious climax with IWKWLI. And then the remixes of Obsessed at the end is almost like her throwing a party for happiness haha. There are moments of bitterness, anger, pain and grief on this album, more so I feel than any of her others, but also intense joy and love. I almost feel like it could be a movie soundtrack. For the lambs who bleat on (sorry couldn't help it) that all we want are number ones, this album was never going to be a smash hit because it isn't mainstream. What it is though is quality music made and sung with passion and integrity, and was M trying something different and succeeding, all in my humble opinion, of course. And just an FYI, I adore E=MC2 (it's in my top 5), but that's for another long ass post on a different day. (Thursday 12 May 2016; 11:39)

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