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Re: In Rainbow's defense (59,783) (59,785) (59,788) by Dustbin from USA Rainbow has a lot of hidden gems. I've always loved this album. It was my first Mariah album so I am partial to it. It is a very short album with interludes that I wish were full songs. Come on Mariah we need the full version of "Rainbow (interlude)", surprise us in Vegas with a live version. (Tuesday 16 February 2016; 1:16)

Rainbow (59,787) by Terna from Nigeria This was my first ever Mariah Carey album on CD back in 1999, the euphoria when "Bliss" came on, and the big grin on my face lol. I love everything about Rainbow and it's one of her albums that I got in the moment, so I'll always be attached to that album. I do agree that it does indeed have an overall unpolished almost demo like sound to it, which gives it this vibe. There's also this uncertain feeling attached to that album everytime I play it. I still cherish the album though. OK I'm gonna listen to it right now lol. (Tuesday 16 February 2016; 1:01)

Scarey (59,786) by Alexis Morell Carrington Colby Dexter Rowan from USA I see that she sounds better with the most recent performance of VOL, but it is unnerving that she can't even take a few weeks off before her voice falls apart. (Tuesday 16 February 2016; 0:30)

Re: In Rainbow's defense (59,783) (59,785) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada Yeah, I actually really love Rainbow. There are a couple tracks that aren't my absolute fave ever done by MC, but it is an intricate piece that I truly enjoy upon every listen. From Petals to Against All Odds. I know a lot of fans prefer the Heartbreaker remix (not that I don't like it lol), but I actually absolutely love the original with Jay-Z because it's so playful and because of the epic video with Bianca. (Tuesday 16 February 2016; 0:12)

Re: Happy Valentine's Day (59,772) (59,784) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada I hope everyone had an amazing Valentines Day. It's not all about whether in a relationship or not. I'd personally love a Vegas DVD, regardless. I'd so love for the label to get behind that. (Monday 15 February 2016; 23:19)

Re: In Rainbow's defense (59,776) (59,783) by Bill from the UK I think Rainbow is a great album. It took a while, but it's actually now one of my favourites. I do agree though that the sound quality is not great. You can really hear the distortion on the last chorus of "After Tonight" when she belts out those words. Shocking really considering the label, artist, and resources. But Heartbreaker, CTTA, Bliss, X Girlfriend, Crybaby, Petals, Rainbow... just excellent top-shelf songs. Much more varied and interesting than some of her other albums. (Monday 15 February 2016; 23:10)

Re: In Rainbow's defense (59,776) (59,782) by enwar00 from usa I was actually referring to the recording quality on this album being subpar, not necessarily the quality of the songs. With that said, it is my least favorite. (Monday 15 February 2016; 22:35)

Re: What's wrong with today's pop stars? (59,768) (59,781) by B from USA Daydream is perfection. E=MC2 excelled at the club bangers. The ballads on E=MC2 were the weak link. (Monday 15 February 2016; 21:12)

Article: Black History Month (59,780) by B from USA Beyoncé is overrated. Formation is the worst. The only song I've liked by her in a long time is 7/11. (Monday 15 February 2016; 21:09)

Rainbow / E=MC2 (59,779) by Will from England Don't forget that Rainbow was the result of Glitter being pushed back, and that it would be her last album with Sony. She has said that she used songs that were to be for Glitter on Rainbow instead. Also, include the fact that it was recorded over a very short period of time, and she wasn't even planning this album. It just happened. E=MC2 was the first album that I bought by myself, and when I really got into Mariah. So that album is very special to me, especially Side Effects. (Monday 15 February 2016; 19:59)

Re: Carey-Packer's heir (59,777) (59,778) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I think that should be a decision they make together. Mariah may not want kids, but who is to say James wants kids either? If they both don't want to then they don't really need to have more kids. They will have a big family as it is with all the children combined. Having a child is no walk in the park, they have to give the baby their time, attention and love. With both of their jet setting and hectic life style they may not be able to do that with more kids in the picture. So really they both need to be mentally ready and on the same page for this to work. If they chose to have a kid then we will be seeing American-Australian royalty. (Monday 15 February 2016; 16:04)

Carey-Packer's heir (59,777) by Malcolm from Asia I know Mariah might not like this idea but If she and James will really be together, I wish they will have their own child. If Mariah doesn't want to carry a baby anymore, we have a surrogacy, it's not an issue or big of a deal these days thanks to Ms. Tyra Banks bravery. And who doesn't want for Roc and Monroe to have a sibling/s, I'm sure it will bring their family a whole new level of happiness and "festivity". (Monday 15 February 2016; 13:41)

In Rainbow's defense (59,776) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines I see how Rainbow be perceived as having a subpar quality compared to the earlier material. To some extent, I agree with that perception, as Rainbow is definitely not as good as any of its predecessors. But that doesn't mean that it is bad by any measure (it's one of the better records released that year). I believe the problem with it is the consistency of the material. It has some really strong tracks (Heartbreaker, CTTA, Bliss, Crybaby, Petals) but it's weighed down by songs that fall short in recreating/recapturing Mariah's former glories (After Tonight, Against All Odds, heck, even TGIFY but at least that one was somehow successful) and tracks that tried to follow the rising urban-pop trend at the time but ended up sounding like TLC rejects (How Much, X-Girlfriend). It also happens to be the first time that the filler had become glaringly obvious in a Mariah album. It offers the first glimpses of Mariah the diva. But I'm gonna cut Mimi some slack for still being able to come up with a body of work at all especially considering the circumstances at the time of its creation. Besides, it really is next to impossible to followup the one-two punch of Daydream and Butterfly, even for someone as brilliant as Mariah. To me, it sounds somehow similar to MOAIA, although this trumps that album in terms of diversity and hit potential. (Monday 15 February 2016; 11:31)

Re: Happy Valentine's Day (59,772) (59,775) by Jared from USA I am also finding hope in Mariah's new union. I missed the chance to see her in Vegas on my birthday last year, and I wasn't quite ready to be as festive as the rest of the crowd at her 2nd Annual Night of Joy and Festivity at The Beacon this past December. I had major health problems, and was physically and emotionally incapacitated so I left the show feeling robbed of the chance to enjoy the experience. My guardian angel of a husband prevented me from taking out my frustrations on the wrong people. Now, I feel ready for more Mariah. She's never too far away. (Monday 15 February 2016; 6:20)

Re: What's wrong with today's pop stars? (59,768) (59,774) by enwar00 from usa I absolutely agree that Rainbow had a subpar sound and recording. It's unfortunate. (Monday 15 February 2016; 4:25)

Re: What's wrong with today's pop stars? (59,768) (59,773) by Tevin from USA I love E=MC2, I play it all the time, that and Daydream anyway. I know most young people who have heard songs from E=MC2 loved it. It's funny because I hear a lot of fans on this board (like Andrew) talk badly about that E=MC2 and say that it wasn't a good album. Though it might not have been so cohesive and some lyrics could've been more mature (trill anyone?), from what I've seen it was very popular among people especially young adults and some older ones. Like I said before I played the CD back in high school during an school event and everyone loved it. The point is Mariah needs to make a CD, as pop friendly as E=MC2, as cohesive as MIAM, as laid back as Daydream, as vocally challenging as TEOM with deep meaningful lyrics of Butterfly. When she promotes the album she needs to sing like it's the debut era again as if she has something to prove. Then she can bow out gracefully and go and raise dem babies. (Monday 15 February 2016; 4:03)

Happy Valentine's Day (59,772) by Baby from Dreamville...Where There's No Beginning & There is No End Love is in the air and all around today and I'm so glad M found a gentleman in James. We should all be so lucky when too many jokers lurk in our proverbial deck of cards. I hope MC's previously hinted surprise has something to do with a release of the #1 To Infinity Vegas DVD but who knows? In any case, long live WoolPac and happy V-Day you all. Wear it out. (Sunday 14 February 2016; 22:43)

Re: That pure pop rush (59,766) (59,770) by Seth M from South Africa I think that YDKWTD was a great song but the rapping with Wale spoilt it and may have prevented the song going big. As I mentioned in a previous post that most non fans and the general public don't like rappers on a Mariah song. Rapping appeals to a very small market and not the general public and unfortunately the results have shown in Mariah's recent attempt. I immediately skip Dedicated on MIAM because the rapper speaking at the beginning is a put off. We all know that I'm not a fan of Adele but I do respect her success and music and if you look at Adele's formula, you will see that her hits are aimed at the general public where everybody is likely to like it and you can hear clearly the lyrics that she is singing. When someone sings the lyrics clearly, then you can hear and connect to the meaning of the song but singing fast and having rappers does not appeal to everybody. Again, as much as I loved the message from Triumphant, I really did not like the rappers. Sometimes, Mariah works with rappers who are literally unknown. I mean, who is Mike Mills and Wale? She also worked with Freeway, Cameron and Shawna (a friend of Da Brat). I've never heard of these rappers only until they were featured on a Mariah song. To me, Mariah is the best singer and songwriter of all time with the capability of writing many more number 1 hits. She just needs to rework the formula and re-engineer her production with people who are in touch with the current trends in music and who will help her incorporate her style into that. She can still be who she is but give us something relevant and lose this et producers who still live in the 70s like Big Jim. (Sunday 14 February 2016; 20:38)

Re: That pure pop rush (59,766) (59,769) by 123 from USA Yes I agree. The last time she made her signature uptempo pop song was with Loverboy and even that had a different feel to it because of the baseline. She used to get criticized at the time for having a "formula" that she kept repeating. I think enough time has past where if she were to attempt it again like she did on Beautiful, people will gravitate to it. Something for the summer. She can always make a hip/hop/r&b remix with resung vocals. I miss those days. It was like getting two new songs. (Sunday 14 February 2016; 19:24)

Re: What's wrong with today's pop stars? (59,758) (59,768) by May from Denmark She hasn't written anything decent in more than 10 years? I believe that's subjective, because fo me E=MC is filled with great tunes and just because she is not belting like roosters in morning such as Daydream it doesn't mean they aren't good decent songs, some are even more than decent. I love almost every song in that album and Memoirs had some little gems as well. I truly loved Betcha Gona Know, Hate U and The Impossible. I thought Hate U was actually an amazing song with lyrics that a lot of people can relate to, a tormented relationship of love and hate. I felt it was more unique lyrically than other love songs she made before. You say she failed to emulate young artists yet Touch My Body was a huge success and Obsessed did also fairly well among young people. I felt it had this air to blame it on the alcohol and it sounded catchy and fun, the video for fans is hilarious. I loved the stalker with all the room covered in Mariah memorabilia. It almost felt like a creep haha. I wished I had a room like that in my home. The few things I dislike from her more new material compared to her old ones is the sound quality and the over production in some songs where everything going on seems too much. Though I also felt Rainbow has a subpar sound quality compared to earlier materials. Really am I the only one who likes E=MC that much? I don't want to think so. It is such a fun album with great tunes more than [...] written. I love Daydream and Music Box, but Daydream doesn't feel like an album that has an overall uplifting and exciting vibe, it's filled with ballads and I take it as one of those albums in which I have to be in a mood to put it on now at days. E=MC is cheerful, I can play it even if I clean the home around and feel energetic. To each their own I guess. (Sunday 14 February 2016; 18:34)

That pure pop rush (59,766) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Remember the unadulterated pop rush you felt when you first heard Dreamlover, Fantasy or Heartbreaker? That's a feeling I would like to feel from Mariah again. She hasn't had that since #Beautiful, which sadly never lived up to its potential, and YDKWTD, which never really took off. She would kill with a vulnerable ballad, but I can't help but hope for a sunny, upbeat, poppy anthem from her. While I'm waiting for that, I'm really loving Gwen Stefani's new single. I have been waiting for the second coming of a hit as brilliant as Lovefool by The Cardigans, and while this is not at that level, it's the best attempt at recreating that magic I have ever heard. It has that fizzy, joyous pop vibe that make you feel all giddy inside. Really well done, Gwen. (Sunday 14 February 2016; 8:04)

Re: Mariah Carey - My All Caesars Palace 02.02.16 (59,744) (59,765) by 123 from USA You just had to reply to one of my posts. You know I usually try to ignore your existence since you just love to troll around here. You disguise your disses as "critiques" and bash her to no end. The jig is up. We all know you come here to troll. You never give this chick props, for anything, so stop pretending because I'm not buying it anymore. Who cares about the first chorus being lipped, especially if its because she needs to catch her breath for the second verse where she likes to vocally indulge. Ball gowns are her thing and it's Vegas, not a tour stop. You really want her to put on a pants suit a la Celine and look like a preacher's wife on stage? How boring. If anything she could just pull out the number she wore on the Vibe cover during the Daydream era. There was no chaise in My All or did you not notice. She only does the intro and outro on the jet ski during Honey. She needs props instead of just standing there. Vibrato? On what notes? She only held, like the last two and there was no sign of strain, struggle and her tone was clear. I thought the blend of Hero/Never Too Far was horrible. Both of those songs are meant to be sung on their own. Give me a full song. You want her to be Celine (white) so bad when she's been lipping since the early 90s. Everyone says Mariah's the queen of pre-records but Celine has her beat as she lips so much better than Mariah. You say for her to be honest and sing live, she sings TGIFU live and you say it isn't impressive. You critique her on her weight, she loses it and now you hate the gowns? I don't get how Isaac gets banned, Illuminati boy gets banned (I would rather see a million of his posts than one of yours), but you insult Mariah and others on the board everyday and you get to stay. It's usually just you and Martyn up posting your hate mail but I guess you've gained the fan base you've always wanted. (Saturday 13 February 2016; 21:10)

TMZ on Bey and MC (59,764) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter TMZ posted an article about how Bey and MC got to talk about a possible duet at the gala and they both loved the idea. I am all for this collaboration, I think they can create a strong uplifting power anthem. Cross between "pretty hurts" and "imperfect". Or they can go for a club banger. Or a ballad, who cares, just get them in the same studio room. (Saturday 13 February 2016; 19:23)

Re: What's wrong with today's pop stars? (59,758) (59,763) by Mike from FL, USA It's a bit of a stretch to say Mariah hasn't written a decent song in over 10 years. I know it's all subjective of course, but that's not even remotely close to a true statement. There are too many great examples of her song-writing skills within the last 10 years to list. They may not be #1's, top-10's, or even on the Hot 100 etc, but there are many examples, nonetheless. (Saturday 13 February 2016; 19:20)

Re: What's wrong with today's pop stars? (59,758) (59,762) by Andrew from UK Lee, Mariah writes decent songs, she can write songs. Unfortunately, I agree with the gist in that in the past decade they've been overthought, over-produced, with a melange of melodies in trying to be too clever, and sometimes with lyrics unbecoming and forgetful ("outside the kitchen window right now"). They haven't been aimed at the charts. I don't believe Mariah can't write a 1989 or some such. She just doesn't want to. And this makes it doubly more confusing because she only ever performs a greatest hits session on stage which features hardly any modern stuff for another display of the same songs over and over. It's very bizarre. You'll be accused of being a troll but your point of view is somewhat valid, in my opinion. Seems to be a growing general consensus amongst lambs and fans alike that she needs to get back to her day-job and write music people want to hear instead of more self-indulgence. I don't care what people say about MIAM, when I play Mariah I don't play it anymore. It's dated even now. (Saturday 13 February 2016; 19:15)

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