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The illuminati (51,022) by Jared from USA I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it. Like Edward said, if you look hard enough, you'll find symbols and signs everywhere. People who wear funky jewelry don't necessarily do it out of adherence to a cult or knowledge of the symbolism behind certain images. Maybe that woman with the "Eye of Horus" just thought it was cute and tried to make a fashion statement. Besides, if the illuminati were real and still active, what exactly are they trying to accomplish by "controlling" artists like Beyonce and Katy Perry? Are they trying to raise funds for their nefarious plans with concert revenues? Are they trying to brainwash the masses into mindless single ladies putting their hands up? What is the point of all this? What's their end game? And what do they plan to do with the people who don't listen to their artist puppets? Someone please tell me, because I haven't been paranoid enough to read up on their doings. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 18:05)

Woman in black (51,021) by Luke from United Kingdom Ever considered maybe Mariah is working with a new team like a lot of people on here have wanted? I don't know if the illuminati is real or not but if it is I'm sure Mariah has probably dealt with it before. I don't neccesarily believe in God like the Bible says but I like to think there is a greater power we can turn to for help in a more spiritual sense. It's up to people to believe in whatever makes them feel happy as well. However, I do think that if there is a good almighty power, there ultimately has to be a bad. Yin and yang and all that jazz. Jewellery doesn't comfirm this though. Being and avid jewellery wearer I've bought multiple accessories without really knowing the meaning behind their design. Maybe this woman has done the same thing haha. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 17:56)

The cassette on YouTube (51,020) by Amber C from USA Well, I did some investigating on the account which posted the early released cassete thingy lol. Anyway, the user has been online since 2009, however the user has no history, no watched videos, and no comments in her history. Hmmm. We need to do some fun investigation. What does Mariah's finger look like? Also in the comments certain users give out info that may be telling. They too have no history whatsoever. I don't know what's happening these days, from the woman in black, to the leaks, to the weird behavior and other things you guys would call me supersticious for. Also, does anyone know when exactly Mariah started acting heavily medicated? I'm not a blind bat so don't insult me please. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 17:45)

This is my last post ever about the woman in black (51,018) by Amber C from USA You guys call yourselves fans, and swear you know some of the hidden messages behind her videos, yet your telling my that you cant tell when Mariah is talking about that one society. LA Reid is in it, Jay Z is in it, Bey is in it and so many others. And Mariah is friends with them. Have you listened to Emily Saunde's song Clown? It's called a contract, when you sign the contract they can do whatever they want to you. Lol we are in 2015, stop saying things are "conspiracies". That's so 2005. Too many people are as blind as bats on here. When did Mariah come out with the butterfly symbole? When she was free from Sony. She was showing that it did not own her anymore, she owned it. She wasn't under its control anymore, she controlled it. That's all, I'm done with this topic. We don't know M personally darlings. And all this Ariana stuff is not by chance. (I'm pretty sure.) (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 17:32)

The powers that be (51,017) by Edward from USA We don't need a "satanic order" to know that this world is governed by those with power and money. It is true that just for the right amount of money they can actually made a DJ not to play an artist and drown his/her career easily. Money can also buy good and bad press, it all depends on how much money and the people you can manipulate. If the illuminati were so powerful with their spells, they would've cured Whitney instead of "killing her" or maybe they'll give Mariah her 90's voice back. Mariah is an aging star, Rihanna will also be in time, but isn't that the game of life? Nothing stays the same. There were great vocalist before Mariah, and there are going to be great ones after her, people are going to keep dying and accidents will happening, there are going to be good people, but also there are going to be criminals out there, that's life. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 16:39)

May, Annabelle is coming (51,016) by Edward from USA May, I completely agree with you about these ridiculous conspiracy theories. Some people are always looking for the fifth leg of every situation. They've gone though an entire Rihanna video frame by frame looking for something that looks satanic, and they swear by it. This guy sold a DVD to a friend of mine in which a guy was talking about supposed forthcoming events that were inevitable, that he had been part of the illuminati, but he had deflected and was now warning people about what he had heard from these super powerful human beings in their meetings. The guy was very charismatic and spoke very well, he sounded so convincing, but I guess I'm not easily indoctrinated, I had enough with my Catholic family trying to shove the Bible up my behind. Well, none of these events ever happened, and that was in 2011. Tommy tried it with Thalia, it never happened. He tried with Lindsay Lohan, it never happened. So, these Illuminati people are very much hit and miss. It's time they resuscitate Whitney, her death was what I call "illuminati gone wrong". Oh my God, I just saw Annabelle, she's coming for me. This could be my last post. Help meeee. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 16:18)

Lady in black (51,015) by THE TRUTH from USA May and Edward you seem to get very confrontational over this issue. There is in fact plenty of evidence about the illuminati in Hollywood and if you choose to cover your eyes, and plug your ears while screaming that everyone who sees that is crazy then that's up to you. Regarding being out alone with MC's brother, these pics of him online depict him as someone she was probably feeling pretty safe with. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 15:47)

This is just funny (51,014) by Will from England Out of all the theories that this board has come up with, the illuminati has the be the funniest, and the most ridiculous one I've ever heard of. This is what you get when you read too much into a situation/picture. Has it not crossed people's minds that the mystery woman could just be Mariah's new publicist/art director/something along those lines? There are so many plausible and realistic explanations for who this woman is, rather than jumping straight to (most likely) wrong (and yet hilarious) explanations. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 15:32)

The illuminati is coming for Mariah (51,013) by Edward from USA Let's not pretend we haven't seen Mariah out and about without her bodyguards before. She's been out alone with her brother Morgan several times, I just don't remember the style of his earrings, maybe they were the "Eyes of Tommy". She's been to the Aquarium and even to Central Park without them, just an assistant. My friend got a picture with her when she was shopping by herself in mall Brooklyn, no assistant. Many big names in the industry move around without an entourage sometimes, they want to be able to breathe and not come across as weird in places where people are as rich as they are if not more, and are not being escorted by a bunch of giants to protect them. There are many pieces of jewelry out there with signs and symbols, but that doesn't necessarily mean people know anything about them or that those who find them cute or own them belong to this "satanic" order that "is killing artists" because they are worth more dead than alive. The most ridiculous thing I've seen on YouTube is that Whitney Houston was offered as a tribute so that Brandy could take her place. Well, Brandy had a great album and still is not relevant. So where is the power of this illuminati? If we look for lights in the sky, we'll sure find them, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are there. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 15:10)

The Truth (51,012) by May from Denmark You need to put the tinfoil down and the paranoia aside and the conspiracy theories just drop them, really, all that garbage just throw it away. Stop all that superstition and don't try to drag people into that trap. Also, Mariah on pills, booze, yada yada? What? I admit Mariah does drinky-drinky up to tipsy point on stage a few times but on pills, or being an alcoholic, that's far fetched. If she was on Xanax and other "on-the-counter-let's-abuse-it mix prescribed" we would all know by now, I highly doubt she is the one that goes around gulping down her throat oxycodone while drinking a Patron. The only time she was linked remotely to drugs was when that lawyer came out saying she does cocaine and yet his story was implausible. I could imagine trying out pot once in a while, she is always surrounded by rappers so why not haha, even if it's second hand. But come on, sotp making up ridiculous assumptions and stop with with the Illuminati BS because that's what it is, superstitious stuff, come back and live the 21st century please. Science and reason are calling. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 14:38)

Woman in black (51,011) by clueey23 from USA So do you guys think this women is MC's handler and she is under heavy mind control? I'm confused. I know what I know and that's all I know. And I've said this several times on this board but, Hollywood and fame are scary places to be. Very dangerous. People are so money hungry that they kill people off because they feel they are worth more dead than alive. I always believed that during her Sony days she was under heavy mind control prior to the divorce. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 14:04)

Mariah Carey and the illuminati? (51,010) by Ardis Logic from Earth Here is an interesting video that may be disturbing to some of you. I'm not sure what to believe but it is interesting. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 13:35)

The illuminati (51,009) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter After writing that post I did check it out. I realized I was stupid haha, I didn't know that "the all seeing eye" (which I always knew was the symbol of the illuminati" was the same as the "eye of Horus". Anyways I don't know if it's true if MC actually thought that was the last means of reviving her career, but I hope not. I can disregard the suspicious jewellery choice of the woman as being a wannabe illuminati freak who wants to look edgy, however I do find it weird that MC is not seen with her usual entourage. While people who have repeatedly been associated with the illuminati are the ones at the top now (Beyonce, Rihanna, Lady Gaga and Katy Perry), I wouldn't want MC to go down that path. It usually doesn't end well. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 13:34)

The coincidence thing (51,008) by Jec from Philippines Hi. I'm Jec. I'm 15 years old and I always visit this messageboard for almost 2 years. I'm a real fan of MC and I really enjoy this forum since the first time I visited it. Btw, I agree to the one who posted about the coincidence in the leaked tracks, live performances, and lost interviews. Mariah goes back to Sony anyway, so it does make sense to me. I think that Mariah uses fake accounts to YouTube to leak these things. I hope that someday, St. John performance in 1994, undubbed 1993 Thanksgiving concert, and Underneath The Stars video would see the light of the day. I really think there is something huge for the lambs this 2015. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 12:57)

Woman in black (51,007) by THE TRUTH from USA Amber, the difference between now and then is that MC no longer has her own will. Between the breakdowns, the meds, and the alcohol there is nothing left and she is ripe for the pickings. Sure she wants to be 21 and back on that VOL pedestal but more than that the blood is in the water and the sharks are circling. Yes, bodyguards are conspicuously absent and BTW, a good bodyguard keeps his hands free at all times. I'm afraid this is no laughing matter. What is occurring now is much more blatant than anything that happened back in the Sony days when she was at least protected and guided by Tommy Mottola's people. As far as believing the hype about Nick being a "good Christian", what exactly has been Christian about his actions? Christianity is a convenient veil for the worst of sinners to hide behind and he doesn't even hide well. Mimi L, I imagine you've done some research online and realize that the Eye Of Horus is the preeminent illuminati symbol. I'm afraid that there's probably no stopping the inevitable. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 11:40)

Orkun (51,006) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Haha thanks buddy, you are too kind. "Tying with the Beatles" really got me chuckling. Seeing the number of my posts, I was like oh my, did I actually write so many? But I guess when it comes to Mariah, I just have a lot to say. I am glad you enjoy reading them, and I enjoy reading yours. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 10:40)

The Truth (51,005) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Your post got me intrigued. Can you please elaborate? I don't know if it makes me stupid, but I don't know much about the meaning of the Eye of Horus, so could you explain if you have time? As for the lady, it does strike me as weird. I mean MC has always been accompanied by that handsome black bodyguard (I forgot his name) and in most cases she had RaeRae with her. But in her last two outings it was only this woman. And both times she is getting into that red sports car. I wonder what is up? If it's a strict manager and MC is listening to her, it's ok I guess, but I sure hope it's not something to do with the dark side of the industry. I just want MC happy and healthy. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 10:37)

Unreleased tracks (51,004) by Marcel from Montréal, Canada I've been having this feeling that MC herself has been behind some of these later "leaks" or "rare videos" we've found, like the original MTV Unplugged recordings, her VOL on Good Morning 90 (the great quality one), etc., maybe just being so lazy myself lately that I tend to make up stories. Anyway. On the other topic people's been writing about, to me a "previously unreleased tracks" album would be great. I know some people believe that's a waste and say it wouldn't sell at all because songs would sound way too dated and also that people has the perception that a track that didn't make the cut is because it wasn't good enough but I think it would do ok, not as good as a new songs album, but still good and with no extra harm to her voice. I own for example, No Doubt's "the b sides" album and it's a cool cd. And MC has proven to have excellent tracks that for whatever the reason, hadn't been included in her albums like Do You Think Of Me, Slipping Away, etc. I remember she said lot of songs were out of Music Box and some were out of her debut as well as off Daydream. It'd be cool to get to hear them. The original recordings. They might sound retro but still it'd be a pleasure to hear to, mostly those recorded before her voice miss its power and clarity. All those tracks she and Walter worked on and never saw the light would be quite appreciated. I mean, they're already recorded and no matter if they are "drafts" they'd sound great just like "Lead the Way" does. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 4:13)

To "The Truth" it's reasonable to worry tbh (51,001) by Amber C from USA Well Mariah is not new to Hollywood and those games. She probably knows the lady is wearing that jewelry. Well, here goes my imagination again. Mariah knows what she's dealing with. She's dealing with "Sony people". Those types of people were around MC when she was at Sony way back in the day, it's actually creepy stuff. Anyway all we can do is pray that she's not that desperate for fame this time around. But it's highly suspicious, the lady holds on to MC like she doesn't know how to walk. She leads her as if she's blind. Where are the bodyguards? Isn't that their job lol. I couldn't imagine Mariah turning into Rihanna so I'm not too scared. Tbh I don't think Mariah is okay mentally. Ive said this before, and I don't care what you all say. My gut instinct says Nick, being a Christian man, should have stuck with his wife through these thicks. He let her go at a time she probably needs him. Racine, I have seen her true colors recently wth the fans and just her character. I don't think she is a good friend. Hopefully MC is ok. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 3:47)

The Truth (51,000) by Mara from United States Do you think this woman works for Sony? I know there is evil in this industry. I have never seen this woman around MC before and yes, she does tend to associate with the same circle. What are your thoughts? (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 3:16)

Mariah Carey Beautiful featuring Trey (50,999) by 123 from USA Did anyone see this performance? This is my favorite performance of the song. The vocals are rough and raw, but I like how she went for it more instead of hiding behind the pre-records. The notes she was hitting live that night prove that she doesn't need the pre-recorded vocals. They are very clear in this video. I love how at the end she must have thought to herself, screw it, I'm going to sing on top of these pre-recorded whistle notes. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 1:45)

Coincidence or not? (50,998) by Darryle from USA Does anyone else find it odd that all these old or missing things are popping up all of a sudden? First the lost Rainbow era interview was all of sudden found right before Mariah went to the HRC gala. Then some demos were uploaded to YouTube and a day later Mariah posted on twitter about listening to her teenage demos. There's also the Mariah and Whitney VH1 interview in which Mariah mentions briefly that there was another VOL video. I can't decide if it's all just an odd coincidence these things are all appearing at the same time or that Mariah might be behind it. (Wednesday 18 March 2015; 1:34)

FYI / Rainbow interviewer (50,997) by Billy from Greece The guy who did this interview is Craig Seymour. He has written a biography on Luther Vandross which I own and I have seen him talk previously on a Luther tribute. Wikipedia says he is also a former stripper. Always good to know. (Tuesday 17 March 2015; 21:42)

Amber C and Mimi L, the woman in black (50,996) by THE TRUTH from USA I can only say that there is no question about the Eye of Horus ring and the other "suspicious" jewelry. I think this does not bode well for MC. Someone should intervene before it's too late. (Tuesday 17 March 2015; 20:46)

Shelly will miss your posts (50,995) by May from Denmark I think it's great to take a break once in a while, it can become addictive, that is so true. But it's because the forum is so much fun and nice and such a great place to keep updated with everything, this is the best MC site and the best forum where people are open to be as opinionated as they want, it's wonderful the freedom. And such freedom it makes you want to stick here "forever" haha. I will miss your posts Shelly, you add such a sweetness to this board that no one else can. You are full of lovely thing. I wish that in this break you get to enjoy your RL (real life) to the max, and hope to see you fresh for updates on the Vegas show. I'm counting on you. Much love from this stranger afar. (Tuesday 17 March 2015; 20:45)

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