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Jon (50,481) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Jon: your latest post is something I agree with whole heartedly. Each and every word. It's beautifully written. The point you made about not turning away from a family member is something I have been saying so many times. Just because we are in awe of Mariah doesn't mean she doesn't have faults. And just because she has faults doesn't make her stupid or a bad person. She lives in a different world like most celebs. She probably feels helpless or clueless and doesn't know whom to turn to. Sometimes people need an outside perspective. What would be wrong is for fans to see these mistakes being made over and over and pretending like everything is fine, which just leads to MC being ridiculed by the entire world. I don't know Mc personally but I have always felt such a connection to her, I want nothing but the best. I can't bear to stand her legendary status being ridiculed over and over. But to call this "bashing" is wrong. Questioning why people who question MC doesn't move on to Ariana or other artists is wrong. I'd like to tell them that they weren't the ones to introduce me to MC, so don't try to be oversmart and tell me where to go now. Questions shouldn't be raised as to why people with a negative opinion still post here. I am here because I care. So I will keep posting my opinions and I hope MC sees them and finds suggestions if she were ever to need help in understanding things she has been doing wrong. (Friday 27 February 2015; 14:52)

Mimi L. (50,480) by G.G. from USA The "positive" lambs believe that they are the only ones who have the right to express their opinions. If you disagree with anything Mariah does or anything they say you're labeled a "hater" or "not a real lamb". (Friday 27 February 2015; 14:22)

Negativity vs positivity (50,478) by Jon from Netherlands I think this forum is great. It's really elevated, especially compared to the rest of the internet. Some people get pissed off at how negative Andrew is but he never sinks to a "garbage" level. Nor does Baby against those that critcize Mariah. That is why I keep coming here. The question is: if you are pissed off at Mariah like I am why post? I guess some of us are struggling with our feelings towards her. It means the bond that was created wasn't weak and we just don't turn around and walk. A lot of people have done that. I remember a comment on YT on the lines of "I can't believe I used to be a huge fan of this stuck up b****." That person, like so many others, have left a long time ago and only bother to comment on her every 5 years and couldn't care less what she is up to. Some of the negative people that post here are still willing to pay to see her and are key to her future. If all the negative people "leave" her Mariah has a big problem in her hands. It will be a turning point in her career. She can't count only on those that love her unconditionally. Nor should she. She has a good mix of criticism and love here and she should feel happy about it. I wish I had people criticizing my life choices and giving me some though love sometimes. If she can have great Vegas shows I'll be happy for it and I'll even try to go on a later date. I think they will be better production wise but not Mariah wise. If they are I'll eat my words gladly. Concerning the bond between fan/artist: it's different but also similar to the bond with a family member. It's hard to see the person waste their talent but you're not gonna turn away the same way you wouldn't do it to a family member. You stay and try to confront the person. If we see Mariah being more and more out of touch with reality we don't say anything? If we see someone with great musical talent waste it on the same things over and over again we don't say anything? Maybe Mariah would appreciate it if someone told her "Listen, you don't have to sing Hero in every single concert." That could actually be a relieve for her. Radiohead don't play Creep. They refuse to. They still put on a great show and you come out of it mesmerised. Even if you don't know the songs. If Mariah can't put together a good show it will be harder for her to keep a certain lifestyle. Someone said it and might be true: the Vegas shows will be a crucial moment in her career. She can always come back with great music but that's not where you get the bling bling these days. She needs to be confronted with these things. (Friday 27 February 2015; 12:52)

Fan love (50,477) by Joseph Akkary from Australia Mariah needs to address her fans directly, she is loosing touch with her once very strong fan base. (Friday 27 February 2015; 12:33)

Abraham (50,476) by Lee TS from USA Are you serious? Umm ok. Celine's last flopped album Loved Me Back To Life sold over 1 million worldwide, when will Mariah? Celine was selling out arenas back in 08-09 when Mariah was playing theaters. Celine also claims to be the best selling female artist of all time with over 200 million albums sold. Celine is incredibly successful in her own right and it's ridiculous to compare the two. We don't need to tear down another diva to make Mariah look good, they can co-exist. I think fans are trying to say Mariah can learn a few things from Celine, seemingly she has a great support team around her and is super strict with her voice. Or we can just call Celine a has been who plays Vegas (which she kinda is). But not like that will ever happen to our Mariah. (Friday 27 February 2015; 11:31)

Double standards (50,475) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter So it's fine that the "positive fans" calls the others arrogant and impatient and selfish (saying that only come back to Mariah when she is back on top and leave her when she is going through a rough patch) but it's wrong that the "fair weather fans" will call out the people as enablers coddling Mariah with lies and refusing to help her see her flaws so she can fix things? Seriously wow. That's not double standard at all eh? (Friday 27 February 2015; 11:12)

RJJ12 (50,474) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter If I remember correctly Nick was not jealous of the male lead from YME. He was jealous of Miguel. Mariah said it herself that when Nick saw pictures of Mariah in a bikini sitting infront of Miguel and leaning on him behind while they were on a boat heading towards the grotto for the shoot of Hermosa, he lost his mind. This came straight from Mariah's mouth and she said she was surprised he had the jealous side. Mariah also mentioned that it was a last minute decision to add Trey instead of the other model since she wanted him to do it and the reason they don't have scenes together is because it was done on short notice and they couldn't take Trey to the location were they were shooting. So they made do with whatever they had. As for the Breakfast Club interview, Mariah needs to work on being professional and keep her professional and personal life aside. (Friday 27 February 2015; 11:04)

G.G / Travon (50,473) by Abraham from USA Well it's kind of a double standard isn't it. I mean you've seem annoyed and disappointed in Mariah lately. Yet you're still here posting. Why not just forget about her and move on. Listen to Ariana. Problem solved. Travon thanks, I always enjoy reading your posts. I think you're awesome too. I feel that the last thing Mariah needs is her fans bashing or abandoning her. I hope she is doing fine. (Friday 27 February 2015; 10:23)

Las Vegas doc like Celine (50,472) by Warrior Butterfly from USA I don't see Mariah being this candid or open with her life, she strikes me as very protective her over image. To be this exposed takes guts. If Mariah did do this kind of doc I'd truly be impressed. Again just a thought. (Friday 27 February 2015; 10:18)

My All, Will (50,444) (50,471) by Stacey from USA Not everyone here is bashing Mariah. I mean, if you don't post, you can't bash, right? Haha, that was a joke. Laugh. My All has such a haunting melody to it. It's definitely one of my favorite ballads. Along those lines, I Only Wanted is such a great song too, sort of a part 2 to My All. Will, brilliant post. I've always wondered why MC's voice has struggled and Celine's voice has remained strong. It's time MC hired the best vocal coach money can buy. She's got great pipes to protect. (Friday 27 February 2015; 9:06)

Did any of you know Mariah personally (50,470) by Manny from U.S. I think it's hilarious when fans assume things about Mariah like if they know her personally. I try not to assume anything about her personal life. Are some fans anxious about Vegas that they feel the need to fill in the blanks of what they think is going on with her? I agree with Abraham. His post made sense to me. (Friday 27 February 2015; 5:45)

Baby (50,469) by Chicago Lamb from USA I loved "Did I do that". (Friday 27 February 2015; 5:03)

She's singing Ken Lee by MC (50,468) by Randy from USA Webmaster please let me post this, I wanna lighten the mood. (Friday 27 February 2015; 4:20)

What (50,467) by B from USA We don't know what Mariah is or isn't doing at the moment to prepare for Vegas. She may have a bunch of yes men around her but she knows what is going on, she may be a lot of things but stupid isn't one of them. (Friday 27 February 2015; 3:29)

Abraham (50,466) by Travon..SweetSweetFantasy from USA I completely agree with you. Some fans are always displeased with something and always wants her to do something for them. When she does what's best for her, they become impatient with her and mad at us for not agreeing with them. Then they try to turn the bull**** they're always talking into logical comparisons. It's always, "we don't care what Mariah thinks she needs and we are going to shove our feelings towards her down everyone's throats when she makes a mistake". It's a double standard and it's heartless to say to someone "you suck, you need to do this and if you don't do what we say, you will be treated like you still suck. " It's cold and not constructive at all. I love some people's critism here because it's constructive, makes sense, and it's level minded. The ones that try to argue their beliefs with conviction as fact are the ones who really bother me. They attack those who have a nice personality and say they are "enablers". That's the reason why I don't comment on this forum, much. I am too understanding of human emotions and I try to not associate myself with those that disregard how someone feels. Abraham, you're awesome though. (Friday 27 February 2015; 3:23)

Lee (50,465) by 123 from USA Yes you are absolutely right. It's been so long since I heard that interview. Wasn't a really good interview. Wendy asked all the questions everyone wanted to know and Mariah was quite candid and handled Wendy well. It's too bad they pulled it from YouTube. (Friday 27 February 2015; 3:18)

Disenchanted / Breakfast Club interview (50,464) by 123 from USA If Mariah appeared disinterested and blase during that interview is because she was fighting with Nick, her label, and isn't really a morning person. Do you all remember the video footage playing in the background of her BET Honors performance of You're Mine? That was supposed to be part of the original video but Nick was jealous of Mariah having a handsome male lead. He even randomly appeared at the video shoot the day Trey Songz was shooting his part. You notice they never have a scene together. Everything was going wrong in her personal and professional life. It makes sense that during that era, she seemed like she either wasn't interested or not taking the interview seriously. I believe she used the splashes to help her cope and forget about her issues. I believe she will get through this and deliver again. (Friday 27 February 2015; 2:44)

Celine / Mariah (50,463) by Abraham from USA "There's nothing really bad you can say about her." Uh, yes you can. She hasn't had a good successful album since "Let's talk about love". Doesn't write her own material. Her music is boring. And hasn't had a hit since when? (Someone let me know lol.) Mariah has always been a better singer and artist than Celine. Talented too. Mariah can have a hit song. Celine has a great voice. But Mariah is above her. Hell Mariah is above almost every female artist in history. With the exception of Diana Ross. Stop losing faith in her. Vegas could work. It's not a permanent gig. She'll have some new music one day. Some here are acting like it's the end for her. (Friday 27 February 2015; 2:26)

"I'm very annoyed, and disappointed with the board" (50,462) by G.G. from USA Then don't read it or post comments. Your problem is solved. You're welcome. (Friday 27 February 2015; 2:13)

This gem, happy music (50,460) by Amber C from USA I love this Mariah song because it's one of her more uplifting songs. I hope Mariah can get back to happier times and happy music. Off of Chantues Supernatural was the only uplifting song I think. Anyway, I'm leaving this here. Enjoy. (Friday 27 February 2015; 2:10)

Shelly (50,459) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I think MC looked amazing and so sexy in DFAU. If I was given a choice to recreate her videos, I would have such a hard time choosing between Honey, Heartbreaker, Breakdown, and the TEOM videos. She had such great videos and she looked great in all of them. (Friday 27 February 2015; 2:00)

What's going on (50,458) by Abraham from USA I'm very annoyed, and disappointed with the board. It seems like everyone's bashing Mariah and wanting answers. Mariah doesn't have to answer to anyone. And bringing up "The breakfast club" interview? People are just now commenting on it now, then when it first came out. I happen to enjoy it. She didn't ramble as someone stated. Who cares about her dissing Ariana and Nicki? Mariah had every right to be offended with the comparisons. A chick who has an average (nasal) voice. That doesn't write, produce or compose Jack. Isn't a vocalist or a belter. I'd be offended too. She wished her wanna be a** the best and longevity. Nicki is a non factor. No talent, nada. Hella getto and disrespectful. It seems people are turning against Mariah. And why? For not being in the public eye or giving the fans a little something. Uh no. Mariah can find herself and be with her children. She needs to put her kids and herself first. Stop thinking about her 24/7. (Friday 27 February 2015; 1:59)

Vegas (50,457) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I was never a fan of that idea. If MC decided to work instead of taking a break, I would have preferred her coming out with a new album and promoting it to the extreme and reconnecting with her fans. Getting an image makeover and basically prepare for a second comeback. I will be happy for her if Vegas works out for her but I fear it will cause more strain on her already fragile voice. I agree with people who said they would prefer that she leaves the old catalogue behind for a while, with the exception of some upbeat songs which blends in perfectly with the current music scene. I would also like for her to sing songs she usually doesn't. Vegas is a huge commitment. All eyes will be on her and she'll be judged harshly and I don't know if she is ready for that now. I would have preferred her working to get her throne back on her 25th anniversary, going on talk shows, letting people see her fun, creative side. With Vegas taking such a huge chunk away I don't know if she will be able to participate in promotions and being seen. (Friday 27 February 2015; 1:57)

Vision of Love (50,456) by Lee TS from USA For the ones complaining about her doing VOL for the millionth time, really? I may be wrong but didn't she just recently start singing that song again? When was the last time she sung VOL before the Elusive tour? I'm thinking '06 but I could be wrong. I know we want M to change it up and I hope she does but I think people want to hear the hits. It's like you would go see Celine to see her perform you know the song. Lambs on the other hand would die if she performs I don't know, Melt Away or Prisoner. (Friday 27 February 2015; 1:53)

The categories of lambs (50,455) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Someone broke down what he thinks are the different kind of lambs. basically calling out people who have the audacity to question Mariah. Apparently that means the person is arrogant and impatient. I would call out the fans who are always smothering Mariah with praises no matter what. You are the reason her career is in this state. I would rather be the type of friend who tells her friend to make necessary changes instead of putting a blindfold on and letting her get ridiculed by the entire world. It's good to be supportive, I will support Mariah always, but it's foolosh to turn the other way everytime she makes a mistake. She is human, she will make mistakes but how will she fix it If nobody helps her see the reality? You think it's best to keep telling MC she will be just fine when she is clearly lost? No, it's not fine, you are just pushing her down the cliff. MC was just fine before, it's people like you all and the "yes men" around her that has ruined her, that has made her feel like she can do no wrong. I hate that every 2 days a new person will come up with the same "true lambs vs fair weather lambs" post. It's tiring and old, just like ramblings at interviews, so please take several seats and get your priorities right. If you love MC truly, you would tell her the truth and help her see her mistakes so she can work on it. Don't sit and says she'll change when she wants to. She's 45, she won't keep getting opportunites all the time especially when she missed so many. (Friday 27 February 2015; 1:48)

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