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Response to the haters (50,733)
by ADAM from USA
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Please get your facts right, Amber and Ty. Your comments were meant to be directed at Andrew not me. So before you throw grease at someone with negative intent, check to see if you're using the correct person's name. Andrew and Alexis, don't let these haters shut you down. I enjoy your commentary on this board and whether we disagree down the road on any points, I'm fine with it and will protect your right to express those points. I enjoy this board because of the variety of opinions on it. I just wish that everyone could express their points without always being PC or so apologetic for having a POV that wasn't in line with "lambs" who need to get a grip on reality. I don't have a problem with Nick Cannon's behavior and hate all the negative talk whenever he is in the media. There are so many haters on here who clearly have unresolved issues with the men in their own life that they so vehemonly destroy any man's reputation that was ever with MC. It makes me would how these individuals are in real life operate in relationships (if they are in any at all). I have news for you, MC is not a Disney princess in real life and has dualities in her personality like real people. MC is a great musician and has been intimate to her fans in the past however the truth is for a long time now, she has taken her fans for granted and only the delusional lambs who are blinded still think their being feed a quality product.
(Monday 9 March 2015; 2:09)
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Mariah doesn't give a shit? (50,732)
by Luke from United Kingdom
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If she didn't give a shit would she really waste her time doing performances in which she sings amazingly 95% of the time, ontop of recording new music and signing contracts for Vages and Sony when she could disappear, live a happy life with her children, make her own music in her studio all with 500 million dollars in her bank? I'm suprised she hasn't done this already when even some of her "fans" critisize every move like they've never made a mistake in there life. Some of the things she does may seem unusual, and not amazing to look at but she's clearly a very experimental person and tries what she wants regardless of what people are going to think of her. I'm guessing some people like fishing for drama on here?
(Monday 9 March 2015; 0:49)
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Adam, the race issue is no issue at all (50,730)
by Amber C from USA
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So if Mariah worked with only white individuals would that be a problem? She sings RnB know, and Mariah sticks to her friends and who she knows because for some reason she doesn't seem to entrust her career with managers or producers who aren't black, why judge? it is what it is, there really isn't any reason to mention the race of her friends. By mentioning race are you implying that she would have success if she worked with another race? I hope not darling.
(Sunday 8 March 2015; 22:44)
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Sharing is caring (hip hop remixes edition) (50,729)
by Jon from Netherlands
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I might be preaching to the choir. YDKWTD, TMB, Side Effects, DFAU, SIO, BB.
(Sunday 8 March 2015; 22:10)
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Vegas (Shania's experience) (50,728)
by Music Lover from Canada
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I can't remember the last time that I posted a message on this board but I had to share this information. Shania Twain performed 105 shows over 2 years at Caesar's. She's been all over Canadian television promoting her upcoming farewell tour, and her message has been consistent. Vegas was the most demanding gig of her career yet after a publicized and painful divorce, as well as major issues with her vocal chords (that Lionel Richie and Gladys Knight helped her overcome), she needed to do it in order to conquer her insecurities as a performer and the misfortunes of her personal life. Sounds exactly like Mariah's current state to me. Firstly, honesty is the best policy. People can tell that something has been off about your voice for years. Vulnerability translates into sympathy. Secondly, Vegas is no joke. Mariah needs to be fully dedicated to her show through vocal coaching and physical rest. She can't be pulling all-nighters in the studio with JD (like last week). This gig could potentially help her overcome her insecurities as a singer, performer, and individual, but it needs committment. Shania mentioned that Caesar's has a great production team that made her wish list come true. Mariah rehired David Korins, who designed her NYC Christmas shows.
(Sunday 8 March 2015; 21:16)
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Re: Alexis / the calm before the storm (50,727)
by Terna from Nigeria
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She is Mariah Carey. Let that sink in for a bit. Don't think even for a second she doesn't know what she's doing. 25 years in the business and still relevant is a big, big deal. Throughout 2004 no one knew what she was up to, we only saw her a few times and then there came 2005. History does repeat itself.
(Sunday 8 March 2015; 19:58)
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The race thing (50,726)
by Matthew from USA
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Mariah has worked with Diane Warren and David Foster. She worked with Mark Shaiman on the latest Christmas album and with Willie Nelson for the song on the "Tennessee" soundtrack. She works with white people. The thing is that there may not be a lot of white producers she knows of making music in her genre. The closest thing would be David Guetta who is more of an EDM producer, or Diplo who threw some shade at Mimi's last album sales while working on Madonna's album. So I think we can stop with the race thing. It's OK for Mimi to go after the hot producers for a track or two but she should primarily work with someone respected in the genre but who's sound is not overplayed. I still think Timbaland fits the bill perfectly. I'd love to see what they come up with. I think he's even more creative than The Dream, and I think he would be open to the collaboration since he has publicly expressed admiration for Mariah's work.
(Sunday 8 March 2015; 17:22)
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#2's in Vegas Alexis Morell Carrington Colby Dexter Rowan (50,722)
by B from USA
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If she does hopefully she sings Can't Let Go and Shake It Off. Shake It Off peaked at number two on the US Billboard Hot 100, as it was barred by Carey's We Belong Together. It was the first time a female lead artist occupied the top two positions of the Hot 100, a record she will always hold. Another record that she'll always hold is being the first female to debut a single (Fantasy) atop the Hot 100. She also has back to back Songs of the Decade. Let's be festive. Enough with the complaints and thinly veiled disses that some call are constructive criticisms. 25 years and still going.
(Sunday 8 March 2015; 16:19)
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Nick (50,720)
by B from USA
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While on tour in Tokyo Mariah changed the lyrics of Billie Holiday's classic Don’t Explain from "I know you cheat" to "I know you cheated, motherf*cker". He may be the father of her children but he's disrespected her time and time again. He used her and it's painfully obvious at this point. Publicly dating Murphy, who is Mariah's age, is his way of rubbing salt in the wound. Mariah's looking stunning lately which is the best revenge.
(Sunday 8 March 2015; 15:50)
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Andrew from the UK (50,719)
by Ty from USA
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You act like a goat also. Mariah can work with whatever producer she wants, she does not have to planted on a stage singing Hero in full voice in a Versace gown. If she wants to work with black producers, let her. Last time I checked she was black also. The Lilly white girls be trying it. Maybe you should visit Lady Gaga's page? Just a thought.
(Sunday 8 March 2015; 15:27)
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Philip (50,718)
by Will from England
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That's funny because she talked about that on her Facebook page (the Veep thing). Still knows how to poke fun at herself.
(Sunday 8 March 2015; 14:06)
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Nick (50,717)
by Andrew from UK
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Also, Alexis, I agree that I'm not sure Nick Cannon deserves so much judgment for being twerked upon whilst Mariah is called "dignified and refined". Yes, he's a father in his thirties but she's a mother in her forties, also. Last I saw she was dancing in front of a car to turn on a man wearing a tiny dress whilst touching her breasts. I think Nick put up with a lot himself. May not like him much but let's be balanced and fair. And you are correct in that it seems Mariah doesn't give a shit anymore. There's not much evidence to the contrary. Awesome name by the way. Have a good day.
(Sunday 8 March 2015; 12:45)
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Walter and the goatists (50,716)
by Andrew from UK
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Hi Reuben, it's relevant only as an observation that Mariah doesn't work with white people anymore: for well over a decade there has been very few. It's not unnoticeable and has heavily affected the direction of her music which has alienated her musically and affected her broad appeal IMO. It's not racist it's just probably true: she won't work with Afanasieff again. I won't even comment on the self-righteous indignation of the other poster. Except to say leave Adam alone, I said it. He's a nice guy. And I can't believe you used the word goat. You hate goats. Goatist. Chill out.
(Sunday 8 March 2015; 12:32)
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Glitter (50,715)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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I don't know why MC still thinks Glitter was so bad. I have watched the movie twice and it's actually not bad. I enjoy it. And do I even need to mention the soundtrack? It was amazing. Way ahead of its team. Come on MC. Also do you guys ever wonder that if MC dislikes Glitter so much, why did she choose to recreate the promo photos of Glitter for Memoirs? The other photos she recreated for Memoirs were some of her iconic photos like the debut album, the cover of Vision Of Love, and the Butterfly album.
(Sunday 8 March 2015; 11:44)
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For Adam (50,714)
by Ty from USA
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Dear tired old school queen Adam, let me find out you have race issues. Keep in mind dummy Mariah loves rnb and has worked with black producers since day 1. Where your 1960's wackiness likes it or night she is also "black". Vegas will be a class act to all you fake hating lambs. I would be ashamed if Mimi read this site (which is full of angry goats like Adam).
(Sunday 8 March 2015; 8:22)
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Let Nick live (50,713)
by Alexis Morell Carrington Colby Dexter Rowan from USA
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I still love Nick, I don't know why some lambs want to crucify him. You all want to read Nick for filth but sit up hear and praise or turn a blind eye to Mariah's idiocy and foibles. Chile.
(Sunday 8 March 2015; 7:34)
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#2's in Vegas (50,712)
by Alexis Morell Carrington Colby Dexter Rowan from USA
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I think it would be a cute idea to acknowledge the songs that made it to #2 (doesn't she still hold the record for the most #2's?). Maybe a little medley of those songs? Or am I asking too much?
(Sunday 8 March 2015; 7:32)
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I wish her well (50,711)
by Alexis Morell Carrington Colby Dexter Rowan from USA
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You know, sometimes I come on this board and read so much being said about Mariah. There is the deserved harsh criticism, but there is this strong undercurrent of hope: all of these ideas for new producers, looks, Vegas show setups. It all just makes me sad. I know one of my biggest criticisms of Whitney was that she seemed to neglect her fan base. I mean those fans that were there when she had obviously forgotten about her career. I feel like that's Mariah now. Yes, she will throw a few crumbs to us lamb-peasants with a tweet or ig post. However, she just doesn't seem to really care, so in turn, I've stopped caring. At this point, I've just found that having no expectations is the best route. Until the fans can speak directly to her, I expect nothing to change.
(Sunday 8 March 2015; 7:30)
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Andrew (50,710)
by Reuben Walton from United States
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Andrew, why is it relevant that Walter is not black?
(Sunday 8 March 2015; 7:26)
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Random (50,709)
by Philip from USA
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I just saw a promo commercial for the HBO series "Veep" and one of the characters said to the president of the U.S.A. on the show "What you say goes, literally you're like a real life Mariah Carey." I guess her reputation to everybody is she's demanding or she gets what she wants. I was kind of dumbfounded.
(Sunday 8 March 2015; 7:06)
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Sofa and piano (50,708)
by carlos from peru
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I hope that MC doesn't bring her sofa and piano to sing lying over them because it's really boring and Las Vegas is kind of more action over the stage. I hope that she could make some coreography like she did back in the day with Honey, Heartbreaker, My All/Stay Awhile. Just saying.
(Sunday 8 March 2015; 3:22)
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To Adam: you are a little late with those strong feelings (50,706)
by Amber C from USA
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Your most recent post is an example of how Mariah could be doing everything right, yet she still gets criticism. We haven't even heard the finale product; the fruits of her labor yet you are already judging. Amazing. Smh.
(Sunday 8 March 2015; 3:13)
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Adam (50,705)
by Andrew from UK
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Well, Adam, you would think it funny but I put my head in my hands. Honestly. I think she should really go all out and call her new album something overly long and self-referential that people will make fun of and no straight man would be seen dead listening to. Suggestion: "Diary of the Misunderstood Caterpillar". Of course, I'm jesting before the humourless (yes, it has a "u" in it. heh) come out guns ablazing. I'm just not convinced Mariah gives a shit anymore. If she fucks up in Vegas it's all over. If Ja'mie King (spelt so for all the Aussies out there) is available, a humble Mariah should be throwing money at him. And working with Afanasieff won't happen ever again. He's not black.
(Sunday 8 March 2015; 2:45)
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Vegas and Mariah and Walter (50,704)
by Ethan from United States
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I have faith in Caesar's Palace's production. Even though Mariah and her team might not be too extravagant with the production but it's a Vegas residency and it's business. The show must be extravagant to get people come and see. Last week, I saw a glimpse of Shania's show on TV and it looked great. There were so many dancers, props, and production. I'm looking forward to the Vegas show. And onto Walter, I know that there's magic between them when they work together but I don't really care whether or not she works with him now. A lot of people on this forum have been saying about they should team up again but let's be honest, he hasn't had a hit since Mariah period besides producing My Heart Will Go On. On the other hand, Mariah has several hits without his assistance/collaboration. The only old-time producers that stick around are Max Martin and Timberland. I don't want to suggest Mariah work with them because it's hit or miss as well. Max Martin does great with Britney, Katy, and Taylor but he missed the opportunity with Christina, J Lo and stuff. One more thing, I remember Mariah mentioned that Jermaine was being selfless and told her to release other producers' singles after TEOM (ILT, WBT, SIO, DFAU). Since then, she released other producers' singles instead but we know that Mariah/Dupri has several potential singles on both EMC2 and MIAM.
(Sunday 8 March 2015; 2:43)
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New ideas (50,703)
by ADAM from USA
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Andrew your comments made me lol. I really want a rebirth for her career but I think she's just going to resort to the same old tired habits. Since we're going down that tangent, another move she could do for Vegas is wear her hair honey blonde in with a wave and wear as many mermaid dresses and ill fitting skirts you can put in one show. Also, we really would love some more Debbie Allen two step dances moves - if we're lucky we'll get the really cool "lift twirl and repeat" move she debuted with "Obsessed", where her dancers carry her over their shoulders and twirl and repeat it again. I mean really it's ridiculous what theatrics get approved for her live shows. Very tragic.
(Sunday 8 March 2015; 0:33)
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