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Divorce? (46,211)
by Alex from England
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I remember writing a few months ago in reply to all the people who were blaming Mariah for the lack of promo and everything, that Mariah is a very secretive person and she will always smile in times of hardships even if she is broken-hearted. If these rumors of divorce are actually true, I can only imagine what she's been going through emotionally for the whole year and it will once again prove that Mariah is not one of those celebrities that like to deal with their problems publicly. I hope that some people can once and for all remember that she is first and foremost a human being and that she has her reasons for whatever is going on (or not, promo for example) and we are not her close friends who have insight into whatever is happening in her life. This just frustrates me when people just gossip about other people, famous or not, just assuming they know them personally when they don't have a clue. Hopefully, this will teach a thing or two about respect as a whole to a couple people. I hope Mariah will be OK and find strength in her children and her friends. I am sad for her as she is probably scared of putting her kids through the same thing she did when she was a child (parents divorcing) but I am confident that, as the real and intelligent person that she is, she will find a way to make it as bearable for them as she can.
(Friday 22 August 2014; 3:19)
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May / Michele (Anti-Tour, Kylie, Forever Your Girl) (46,210)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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May, I love Kylie and think she's underrated. I'm also quite squeamish of her earlier material (though I love Enjoy Yourself and Let's Get To It). I think people usually dismiss her music for being throwaway and too commercial, but they probably haven't listened to Impossible Princess, Body Language, or her self-titled album. I read somewhere that she's like a lighter, fluffier, warmer version of Madonna, and I agree. And I like how she likes to mash things up in her tours. In 2005, she used the glorious intro from Stevie Wonder's classic Love's In Need Of Love Today to segue into her own hit Especially For You and it was awesome, and makes me. Mariah should incorporate samples, not just in the studio, but also in her tours. Michele, I know, it'd be great. Hearing her rarely/never performed songs live would be a new experience for everyone. About Forever Your Girl, it's funny because I really haven't lived through that era as I wasn't even born back then but I do love that album after discovering it out of curiosity. And yeah, if such staggering success could result from such a slow start, then who's to say Mariah can't duplicate that?
(Friday 22 August 2014; 1:57)
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Stacey, MIAMTEC lyrics (46,209)
by enwar00 from usa
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I was just going to post how the lyrics have suddenly taken a different meaning in light of this news and then I read Stacey's post. We can never know for sure, but some of them just seem to fit. Especially Faded, and it makes me think of when she called Nick the abondoner. And Camouflage. Even Cry. and Thirsty. It's like the album has suddenly come to life, and if anything it resonates more, yet it's making me super sad to listen to it because the pain could have been current vs. in the past. Or maybe I'm reading way too much into it.
(Friday 22 August 2014; 1:33)
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Divorce (46,208)
by NYHotShotta from USA
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For Mariah to have to divorce and put her children kinda through what she went through as a child is sad. I hope they can work past this and not divorce.
(Friday 22 August 2014; 1:20)
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Post breakup album (46,207)
by Jonathan from United States
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This explains so much like the order of the songs, the bonus tracks, and why there was no promotion. I wish both of them the best and love, but now I'm ready for Mariah to do a killer post break up comeback album for next year. It would be cool if she wrote a song with Adele, Beyonce (if her and Jay get a divorce), or Taylor Swift (long shot?). I don't care. I'm just ready for the slayage since she is in the studio with new material.
(Friday 22 August 2014; 1:15)
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MC is strong, she can handle this without sweat (46,206)
by jaker20 from US
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Don't underestimate MC as if she's the weak kind. MC's been through worse than this, and at a time when she was younger and weaker. MC fell in love, like everyone else. But she's strong to pick herself up. MC is always better when she's down. She's can get through this. Easily. I just know it.
(Friday 22 August 2014; 1:10)
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I never really liked Nick (46,205)
by jaker20 from US
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Truth be told, and I know this is all still fresh, but I never liked Nick. Starting from the fact that he took over MC's career and got way too involved. From being able to direct her videos, that just shows he's definitely had too much influence on her decisions. She was taken away by her love for him, and he took advance. Then MC helped him get that America's Got Talent hosting job. It's there for everyone to see, she's very instrumental in this, and I thought she's lost her mind. He was a nobody. But the last straw was him disrespecting her in interviews, and talking about everyone you slept with. They can separate if that is what he wants, but that's just uncalled for. I know some of you like this guy. But I'm not hiding my feelings for him. He's a user, and he got away with it.
(Friday 22 August 2014; 1:07)
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Separation (46,204)
by Martyn from England, UK
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So Nick has confirmed the separation. I'm absolutely devastated for Mariah. I think we've all seen it coming for a while, but it's just horrible to think how painful this will be for her. She seemed like she had it all a few years ago. Camouflage was her rawest vocal on the album, and it's obvious why now.
(Friday 22 August 2014; 0:48)
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The lies that sell (46,203)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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The inflated album sales, exaggerated success stories, and false claims are (other than ego-boosting or face-saving devices) mostly promotional strategies. Never underestimate the power of overselling or overpromising in business. It's all salestalk - more "documented/certified success" actually raises interest in a certain product, and music is no exception. Marketers and promoters lie/assume/promise all the time. Buyers generally have this herd mentality, they're more inclined to buy what everyone else is getting, and these businessmen prey on that. Here in the Philippines, MIAMTEC covers have stickers that say "including the hits #Beautiful, You're Mine (Eternal), and Faded". I know, I cringed and shook my head at first read as well. If they can mostly get away with such easily refutable factual "errors", then they all the more can definitely exaggerate indefinite figures such as record sales. Not every potential customer is a knowledgeable fan, or at the very least a smart shopper. You'll be surprised at how many people are fooled by these claims. And it happens to every other artist out there as well. It's quite pathetic and makes the artists look desperate, but it works.
(Friday 22 August 2014; 0:21)
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Separation confirmation (46,202)
by enwar00 from usa
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I read on Yahoo that Nick Cannon confirmed they've been separated since May, or something along those lines. I'm sorry to hear this, and am truly sad for them, because it makes me think of how happy Mariah was just 5-6 years ago after they were married. It's crazy how much you can care about someone you don't even personally know, yet do know in a lot of ways because she has shared so much of herself through her music.
(Friday 22 August 2014; 0:13)
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Michele part 2 (46,201)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Oh sorry, I re-read your post. You are right men can be equally vulnerable. That's why I used the term "relatively". I do think compared to Mariah, it will be easier for Nick to move on. He's young, fairly rich and charming. Comparing to Nick with Robin Williams will be a mistake. Robin was in his 60s. He already passed the peak in his career and he probably had many reasons to be depressed over. He probably thought there isn't much left for him to live for. Which is sad. Yes, men can me very vulnerable. But I just think, and I stress on it that Mariah is "relatively" more vulnerable. She is gorgeous, she is filthy rich, but for some reason I feel she will be more miserable because this is her second marriage that failed and we all know she feels bad about her parents marriage not working out. I hope you get my point now.
(Thursday 21 August 2014; 23:12)
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Michele (46,200)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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You may be right, but that's just my opinion. The opinion comes from the fact that Mariah is very insecure about herself. I am not against Nick either. I really do wish them the best. I am a girl myself, I don't believe women are weak. However if it offends you, then I'm sorry. My main point is, I hope they reach a solution where they are both happy. Peace.
(Thursday 21 August 2014; 22:08)
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Mariah's legacy (46,199)
by Anthony Basco from Cardiff, Wales
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I've been thinking and feeling this for a while now so I thought I'd share it with you guys to see what you think. There is a vulnerability to Mariah's voice and lyrics that is missing in either Whitney or The Beatles, there is so no dancing skill to dazzle the audience like Michael Jackson and no chameleon ability to transform like Madonna. But I feel Mariah is greater than the aforementioned and the greatest artist of all time and here's why. Mariah can say more with a line of a song or intonation of voice than some can in a career of albums. She can appear so in control yet so distant from her own music at the same time. She appears confident yet unsure of her talent in the same sentence. In my opinion, Mariah is the closest to a "real" person than any artist ever. This diva stuff, it is the way I can imagine someone who pretends they have talent to act. Mariah has talent. The overuse of the voice is someone constantly trying to prove they have an incredible voice. Mariah's voice is the best. The lyrics that cry out "I just want to be loved" are sincere. Mariah is so close to how most people feel about this crazy life, to how they truly feel, confused and trying to make sense of life, that they berate rather than embrace her. Many musical genius have been condemned as throwaway in their lifetime. I believe Mariah's legacy will prove her worth, so I suggest not to worry about the future. I suggest we fans show our love in the present whilst she is still alive.
(Thursday 21 August 2014; 22:07)
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Mimi L. (46,198)
by Michele from USA
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"I do hope Mariah has a good support system around her right now because I believe she is going to be the more vulnerable one here, as she is after all a woman and she is much older." Wow, so women who are older are automatically more vulnerable? I believe men can be just as (even more so, just look at Robin Williams' suicide last week) vulnerable to separations as women, regardless of age. I think that since Nick has made himself look like a fool with a motor mouth over the past several months, while Mariah has remained mum, there's a good chance that Mariah has a very good supportive network to help her through this. More than likely, he'll be made out to be the bad guy.
(Thursday 21 August 2014; 21:56)
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Facebook, anyone? (46,197)
by Michele from USA
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I'd love to connect with fellow Mariah fans outside of the message board, so if anyone would like to friend me on Facebook (Webmaster, am I allowed to do this?) please find me as Michele Gloria in Bethlehem, PA.
(Thursday 21 August 2014; 21:52)
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Nick and Mariah (46,196)
by Stacey from USA
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I hope the rumors aren't true. If they do divorce, I hope it is on friendly terms. There are children involved. When you become a parent, it isn't about just you anymore. Another thing: There are two sides to every relationship. There are those who are going to automatically jump on the Mariah bandwagon and accuse Nick of causing the divorce. MC is just as much to blame. I've been married for 13 years. I know what I'm talking about. To begin a marriage it takes two people. To cause its end also takes those same two people. Makes me think MIAM is all about her relationship with Nick, especially songs like Thirsty, Faded, and Camoflauge. Anyway, I hope the best for them.
(Thursday 21 August 2014; 21:26)
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JC / We belong together live (46,195)
by Abraham from USA
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Mariah sang "WBT" live last year on "Good morning America". It was a concert. And in my opinion she did great. That is her best live performance of "WBT" ever. I was so proud of her.
(Thursday 21 August 2014; 20:10)
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JC (46,194)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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A recent completely live version would be the one she sang at Morocco. Because she changed it up a lot and her voice was flawed in it, but that made me love it even more. There were cracks here and there but it sounded so genuine, like she was feeling the song. I really like the ending she did in that version. I also liked the version she sang at Good Morning America, where she was wearing the sparkling powder pink/silver gown, right before singing #Beautiful. She changed up the song and especially the second verse and ending and I loved it. I like hearing changed versions live.
(Thursday 21 August 2014; 20:09)
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Songs I wish were Mariah's (46,193)
by Abraham from USA
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1. "Love can move mountains" - Celine Dion (I love this song) 2. "What you won't do for love" - Bobby Caldwell 3. "I'm your angel" - Celine Dion 4. "Love is on the way" - Billy Porter 5. "Take good care of my heart" - Whitney Houston
(Thursday 21 August 2014; 20:05)
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MC and NC (46,191)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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It's really sad to hear the rumors escalating. There might be some truth in it. For the sake of the kids I hope it's not true, but if they are not happy together, there is no use forcing in on a relationship. I honestly thought around the beginning that MC and Nick was a mistake because he was years younger and immature and they got married just few weeks after meeting. But I was more than happy to be proven wrong and to see them together, so happy and so in love, I really did feel that they were meant to be together. I thought MC deserved it after years of being miserable. Now, if they are separating, I hope they do so on friendly terms and things don't get nasty. I do hope Mariah has a good support system around her right now because I believe she is going to be the more vulnerable one here, as she is after all a woman and she is much older. Nick is young and might be able to move on relatively easily. I remember long time back Mariah said that she wouldn't want to marry someone who is in awe of or loves "Mariah Carey" because that's not who she is (meaning at home she isn't the over-the-top diva and superstar). She said the person you see on posters and magazine covers is not really her so she would not want to be with someone who thinks of her like that. But love is weird and she ended up marrying exactly someone she said she wouldn't marry because NC always says MC is his "dream girl". He had a crush on "Mariah Carey". I wouldn't point fingers at anyone, I won't blame either of them. Atleast Mariah experienced love and happiness for a while. She deserved it and she has two beautiful babies, something she might not have had if she didn't marry Nick at that time. She might not have experienced the joy of being a mother at all. And NC seemed to be in love too and he seemed to take good care of her. So I hope people don't turn this into a circus. I am already seeing headlines like "She is difficult to live with" or "He has been cheating on her" or "She has been fooling around with younger guys" or "Nick's big mouth got them divorced". We should let them be alone and sort things out and do what will make them both happy. Best wishes to them both.
(Thursday 21 August 2014; 19:58)
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Yes, this_is_qhm (46,190)
by May from Denmark
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I love Kylie. She is awesome and though her early stuff is very bubblegum pop, truth is that she has lots of really good songs and some amazing artsy and dark ones. I think the idea of an anti-tour for Mariah would be right on. She could even give the option for fans to vote from a list of unusual/B-side songs to make it to an official set list. Sometimes she surprises in her tour, makes tiny snippets, generally a capella of some very old songs or not ordinary ones but it would be so awesome to listen to a full concert consisting of just those she never either sang or sang just once.
(Thursday 21 August 2014; 19:07)
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Sad (46,188)
by B from USA
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Nick made Mariah happy and this makes me feel for her. I think it's true and I think it's why she didn't want to do any promo for the album. I think she's going to tour and reconnect with her fans and either release the album or release a new album next year, her twenty fifth in the business.
(Thursday 21 August 2014; 19:03)
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We Belong Together (46,187)
by JC from UK
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Does anyone else know where Mariah has sang WBT 100% live? The only performance I've thought she sang it atleast 95% live is when she sang it on BET Blueprint. The rest are prerecorded.
(Thursday 21 August 2014; 18:50)
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Is it a wrap? (46,186)
by Shezz from Pk
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Looks like the rumours and speculations are snowballing and might just be grounded in truth. Until it's not officially announced we can never know I suppose. Looks like Mary J's notorious intro in It's A Wrap was actually taken to heart by MC afterall. Though I was not ecstatic about Nick in the beginning I grew to appreciate Nick and was happy that she finally got her "perfect family" that she always wondered about. It would explain a lot about the past few months. Lets say a little prayer for MC and Nick and Roc and Roe and hope for the best for them.
(Thursday 21 August 2014; 18:12)
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enwar00 (46,185)
by Gilbert from USA
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Yes, I picked that because she performed that in Tokyo and that was the year I really fell in love with her and it was with the original song when I saw the Fantasy music video. So if she were to do that I'd be in Heaven because I'll reflect back to that day. I felt the set list I chose was a pretty good choice and it was hard to add/remove songs because there is so many. I wanted to showcase songs that have really beautiful lyrics and songs that were personal to her and of course songs we haven't heard. As a fan and seen a few of her concerts it's usually always the same songs so it would be such a treat for all of us to be able to hear songs live that she hasn't performed before.
(Thursday 21 August 2014; 16:55)
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