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About Ariana (46,712)
by May from Denmark
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I agree with you Mimi L. but I also think that the whole comparison with MC (that mostly came from her management as a publicity stunt obviously) kinda backfired because now she has a harder time to be herself and find herself, everywhere you go that is about Ariana there is "Mariah talk". Her new album did it to the top of the charts but in a way I think it's mostly because her fan pool base currently being very fresh and from just having released her first one not that long ago but also cause she is "in", she is popular right now. While I would take her over Katty Perry singing any day, I'm not impress with her music. this_is_qhm reflected on her last album really nicely in detail and I've read from a lot of people that have said that her late music is very boring. While the album shoot to the top, the popular talk is that it's not a great album. In my opinion the problem is the current state of the next mainstream artists, what's out now at days.
(Wednesday 10 September 2014; 15:33)
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Yes they are theories (46,711)
by May from Denmark
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About Thirsty, ofcourse they are all theories, ideas, assumptions, guesses. Bill and I think that's also the fun in talking about it because a box of alternative possibilities are open. So it's no controversy. Mimi L. I actually never thought the song was a dissing type of song, I felt that the song was more about a "call for attention". It's definitely not a song like Obsessed, which is a clear diss through and through - "I'm a press conference, you are a conversation" haha, to me the lyrics and overall that part of the song were genius, the way she came up with all those comparisons is super mad fun. I know not many people like Obsessed, but I really like the song, it is clever and it ventured Mariah into some new sounds. And to be honest, someone said what if the kids grow up and Mariah has to explain a song about Nick, I would say Nick has much more explaining to do about his interviews with Howard Stern lol but I bet he will say "I just had to answer, they asked me." No, but in all seriousness, to me the song lyrics sound like a call, an important envelope with red letters. Nick never praised the song btw, he heard the beats pre-release and said the beats sounded amazing, then he mentioned in Twitter to people listen to the song released of Thirsty because it was cool and people tweeted him back that it was about him and he stopped posting anything regarding Mariah's album and his Instagram went down. That's why my theories.
(Wednesday 10 September 2014; 15:20)
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Songs about people (46,710)
by Luis from Spain
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I have read lots of messages explaining the meaning behind some songs. I think songs are like books (I am an author myself): they are inspired by people but don't talk about them in a direct way. It's impossible to be realistic when writing a song. In fact, we know that she had been working on this album for long. I think the real breakup album will arrive next.
(Wednesday 10 September 2014; 14:51)
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The next Mariah (46,709)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Ariana taking Mariah's place, that part cracks me up big time. No one can be the next Mariah until they can sing like Mariah, no one can be the next Mariah until they can write songs like Mariah (even after 25 years) no one can be the next Mariah until they can produce songs like Mariah and no one can be the next Mariah until they are as effortlessly elegant and fabulous like Mariah. Summing it up, there will probably never be another Mariah Carey. People may surpass her record (because nowadays people can get #1s with gimmicks), people can get more famous than her, but nobody can come close to the "artist" that is Mariah Carey. She isn't just a singer. She is one of the best singers (even with her current imperfections), she is an outstanding song writer (who has the capability to write songs that sounds fresh and current every time without selling out to the current trend), and special shout out to her lyrics. Mariah is not just about singing high and hitting the whistle note here and there, she is a legend who has stood the test of time. Plus Ariana needs to really work on her enunciation, I can hardly understand what she sings most of the time because she is just yelling away at me. And no her age is no excuse, Mariah was singing flawlessly at that age, so if one wants to be the next Mariah, they should try to be everything Mariah Carey stands for. I still don't see four #1s from Ariana's debut album like Mariah had.
(Wednesday 10 September 2014; 12:14)
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Thirsty theories / post shout outs / Bliss remix (46,707)
by 123 from USA
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Wow I didn’t know my post would cause so many reactions but it's awesome to read different people's well thought out opinions. Shout out to Mimi L, Bill from the UK, Stacey, and Kyle for the really thought out points they made. Darryle from Japan, it is funny that you mention Bliss because right before I read your post I found, in my opinion, a great remix of Bliss and I wonder if anyone has ever heard it. To me, it’s the version that MC would have recorded at the time if she took a more contemporary R&B direction. Take a listen and let me know what you think. Mariah Carey -Bliss (Snakehips Mix).
(Wednesday 10 September 2014; 8:44)
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Thirsty (46,706)
by Lara from Middle East
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Mariah may be targeting more than a person, that way it won't fireback at her just like it did when she targeted Eminem (being elusive no?). I think Nicky Minaj may be one the suspects (changing names/best thing to her) for Thirsty, and even Meteorite.
(Wednesday 10 September 2014; 6:39)
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Nick / Thirsty (46,705)
by Mara from United States
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Not to jump on the bandwagon of the Thirsty meaning, but I have to say from first listen Nick. Let's face it, Mariah was married and married women have many ups and downs with their spouse. She probably had many instances where she was very pissed at Nick throughout her marriage. What do you do when you are Mariah Carey? You write some damn good songs. This song was freshly written. Forget those other people that's names came up. It's about her husband. His working and always jetting off on her and the twins probably made her and still makes her feel pretty bitter at times. Look at the line, "you used to be mister all about we, now you're just thirsty for celebrity" all about we, meaning her and the kids perhaps? Then the boss and "G" reference. I recall a few times Nick compared his different outfits to "all gangster". Then the Tom Fords. As far as her kids not finding out their mom has a song about their Dad, well Mariah never has to "kiss and tell". She can always just take the secret with her. Music has always been MC's outlet and she said herself this album was what she has gone through the last 4 years, so.
(Wednesday 10 September 2014; 6:28)
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Comeback (46,704)
by Darryle from USA
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2015 is almost here, and as we all know 5 is Mariah's lucky number so I see this as her comeback year. I'm so ready for her to make a comeback. In my opinion she never left but that's besides the point. I need her to comeback and show all the people saying she's over or that Ariana's replacing her, they are wrong. I'm through not seeing her at award shows. Mariah's had a career spanning almost 25 years and I still get the feeling she's an underdog in the industry. It seems as though with everything she does she has to work 10 times harder than everyone else to prove herself. 2015 will be the year people will finally be able to grasp the enormous talent that is Mariah Carey. No longer will she be shut out by the Grammys or told she's past her prime. 2015 is the year of Mariah. 
(Wednesday 10 September 2014; 3:42)
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Thirsty lyrics (46,703)
by Gerald from USA by the way of NYC
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The lyrics to the song are said to be about producer and former collaborator Damizza.
(Wednesday 10 September 2014; 1:37)
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Thirsty (46,702)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Thirsty may also be about Damizza. I will stick to the opinion that it's not about Nick. Every line in a song can't be taken literally. She probably said "Tom Fords" because that's the brand that came to her head or the other brands were not fitting well into the lyrics. Mariah is way above dissing her husband in an upbeat song like this. The others I will believe because they are emotional ballads.
(Wednesday 10 September 2014; 1:21)
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Thirsty (46,701)
by Chicago Lamb from USA
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"Thirsty" is about Dj Clue.
(Wednesday 10 September 2014; 1:02)
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May / Thirsty (46,700)
by Bill from the UK
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Be that as it may, we're still both speculating, and I doubt Mariah will ever say who the subject matter is. Like Carly Simon's You're So Vain. I honestly can't see how Nick would brag on a song that slams him, he's an intelligent guy despite how he presents himself. I don't think Mariah would take such a low blow as to do a diss song about her husband. It's not her nature. Every post-divorce Tommy song has been dignified and respectful. The fun shade tracks are usually reserved for those losers she encountered along the way, and in spite of everything, I honestly doubt she'd put the father of her children in that category. Can you imagine Mariah putting herself in the situation where she has to tell a grown up Roc and Roe that Thirsty was about their dad? Highly doubt it. Camouflage on the other hand, and even Faded, are honest accounts of a woman in love in a state of desperation, and there's no shame in her sharing how heartbroken she is with her children through an honest, dignified song.
(Wednesday 10 September 2014; 0:15)
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Thirsty / new album (46,699)
by Abraham from USA
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Of course "Thirsty" is about Nick. All the lyrics make it obvious. And why are some of you saying that "Thirsty" was recorded long ago? It wasn't. Don't you remember the rumored tracklist. "Thirsty" wasn't on there. It was one of the three new songs Mariah said she recorded. But I guess we have our opinions. For Mariah's next album. I'd like more ballads and gospel. And am I the only one who wants Mariah to do an interlude? I want one like "Sunflowers". Maybe Mariah harmonizing, doing whistles. With birds chirping in the background. Like in the end of "Fourth of July".
(Tuesday 9 September 2014; 21:53)
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The Elusive Chanteuse Show (46,697)
by Carlos Belizário from Brazil
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As the tour approaches, I'm wondering if the beloved webmaster will post the reviews of the concerts. Since Mariah is visiting Asia I'm guessing there will be some serious translations going on. Is there a plan? 
(Tuesday 9 September 2014; 20:35)
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Mariah on tour / Thirsty / Cry (46,696)
by Stacey from USA
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I am glad MC is going on tour. Being with her fans always seems to do her good, especially now. Plus, she always writes the best songs during tours too (ala TEOM during the CB tour). I also think it helps MC maintain a positive image, allows her to control the conversation out and about in public. At some point she'll have to talk about the divorce, but not right now. A better time would be when everything has been finalized and all parties have moved on. I loved MIAM from first listen. After news of the separation broke, I started listening to the album more closely, paying particular attention to the lyrics. Oh my gosh people, I can't understand how this album is not about Nick. His name is all over it. Even before we knew what was going on with MC and Nick, my first thought upon hearing Thirsty was it was about Nick, especially after hearing Faded. "You're not here for me" from Faded flows right into "thirsting for celebrity". Just makes sense, to me anways. We all know music is MC's therapy to deal with tough situations. This album screams Mariah's time on the couch. Yet instead of talking to a psychiatrist, she sings. And we get to enjoy amazing songs. My latest jam is Cry. Wow. It's taken me months to really grasp the depth of the song, but it's a favorite now.
(Tuesday 9 September 2014; 17:40)
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Slow jams (46,695)
by Darryle from USA
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Throughout Mariah's career she's done so many different types of songs. From pop to hip hop to rock even. But one of my favorite types that she's done are slow jams. She only has a few but the few she does have always end up being the gems of the album so it evens out. There's Yours, the funkier more upbeat All My Life, Candy Bling, Bliss which I consider to be the best song off Rainbow, then the smooth and sensual Babydoll, and of course the one that started it all, Underneath The Stars. The best cut off of Daydream besides Looking In. I hope she puts a slow jam on her next album. Slow jams are really good songs to use her whisper voice and pull out the whistle.
(Tuesday 9 September 2014; 16:59)
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Thirsty (46,694)
by Kyle from USA
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I think Thirsty is about Eminem and Nick. Knowing the genius of Mariah Carey, she probably wrote the song about Eminem and then pulled it out from the archives and re wrote the second verse about Nick. "So you stuntin' on your Instagram" is definately about Nick. Instagram wasn't around during the MiMi-Em phase. Mariah has stated that Thirsty was written "a long time ago". I think what we hear on the album is revamped version of the original with Rich Homie Quan and a new verse. She is a brilliant writer so why not kill two birds with one stone.
(Tuesday 9 September 2014; 15:47)
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Loving MC new pics (46,693)
by May from Denmark
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She is looking so beautiful, it's nice to see she put down the fake eye lashes. I always enjoy her candid pictures and the captions on this new batch were super cute. It's so refreshing to see her rehearsing and working again, hopefully she will give us a small tease through a clip. Shame the tour isn't bigger and won't cover any single country in Europe, I had my hopes really high until the last moment haha. I can't wait to hear the new songs, she is obviously very inspired. Just a couple of days ago I was watching an interview for her Memoirs album and she mentioned how for a long time she was so uninspired, nothing came out and she felt completely uninterested and then "bam" she got up a day and everything started coming down. Maybe she is having one of those "moments" again. I'm really happy for her.
(Tuesday 9 September 2014; 14:48)
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About Thirsty, Bill (46,692)
by May from Denmark
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There are a lot of "hints" in that song that in my opinion, I agree with some posters below, it does talk about Nick. The "even change your name now" must refer to the way Nick calls himself and reminds others about it, and probably because he has it as a trademark for a couple of his projects, it's the name "Ncredible" and sometimes going by "The Ncredible". We have seen him plenty of times wearing the symbol of the nickname. Then you have the part where she mentions "Pull down them Tom Fords", Nick is a big fan of Tom Fords and he owns a pair of sneakers of the same brand with diamonds encrusted for the value of almost a million dollar, then "That Hollywood sign Calling you again", while still doing Wild and Out, Real Husbands of Hollywood, he also accepted to do AGT (plus all the other promotional stuff like his headphones), "So you stunting on your Instagram" is the other part of the lyrics and where is Nick Instagram now at days, it's been gone since months. Then the whole rapping part can also be taken in consideration but I think the whole song is pretty obvious.
(Tuesday 9 September 2014; 14:44)
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Bill (46,691)
by Darryle from USA
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You are correct. Everything Fades Away was included on the Hero single. That's how I got my copy of the song. Thanks for the reply to my post. I'm not a writer though just incredibly passionate about Butterfly getting the credit it deserves. Even though it sold 5 million I feel people tend to sleep on it because it wasn't as strong as it's predecessor Daydream. They are right though, it's not as strong as Daydream, it's stronger. 
(Tuesday 9 September 2014; 14:35)
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Never Forget You (radio edit and extended mix by JD) (46,690)
by Eternal from Italy
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I wonder if I'm the last person on earth to know this, but I'll say it anyway. I've always thought that the radio edit and extended mix of Never Forget You were just variations of the version on the album, but boy, was I wrong. They are actually remixes by JD, with a quiet storm R&B beat rather than the schmaltzy original. That's not saying I don't appreciate the original version, but after I heard JD's remix, I'm totally blown away. The song sounds more genuine and intimate somehow. I think if Mariah could have had more control over her career back then, she would have chosen the JD remix as the album version, just like she would have chosen the ODB remix of Fantasy as the standard album version rather than a remix. Anyway, just to let you guys know in case you were still out of the loop like me.
(Tuesday 9 September 2014; 14:11)
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Darryle (46,689)
by Bill from the UK
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Darryle, that was a brilliant description of Butterfly, you summed it up so well. Are you a writer? You have a great way with words. As for Everything Fades Away - wow, what a song. One of the best compositions she has ever done in my opinion. To me, being in the UK, it was on the "standard edition", and looking at this site's discography, it was on more versions of the album than it wasn't, if that makes sense. So rather than a bonus track, it's a minus track for the poor US fans lol. But they got it on the Hero single I think.
(Tuesday 9 September 2014; 12:40)
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Songs (46,688)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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I agree with Bill, Thirsty is definitely not about Nick. It might sound that way but Thirsty was not written this year. By the way a person who did change his name is Eminem. But if it was about him the other lines don't make sense because he is pretty popular and he doesn't wear Tom Fords. Some one posted that they think Mariah changed up a lot of the songs when she pushed back the album this year to include her feelings about the current situation. However Mariah stated clearly that she only added 3 songs. One is definitely Money (two dead giveaways about this is the fact that the song starts with "I can't leave it like this" and second she posted a picture with Fabolous during the time she supposedly recorded the 3 new songs). I don't understand why people think Money is about Nick. It's not a diss record, it's a song where the protagonist sings Money and all doesn't matter because at the end of the day she goes back to her love. Another new song might be Camouflage. This song sounds way to personal and heart wrenching for it to be anything but true feelings coming from Mariah. I am sure this is about Nick and their failing marriage. Faded is about Nick too but not necessarily about the divorce. She recorded it quite a while back and I think it was more about her feeling alone and abandoned by Nick since he was away working so much and she was alone with the kids.
(Tuesday 9 September 2014; 10:01)
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Thirsty (46,687)
by Bill from the UK
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I never thought this was about Nick. Faded and Camouflage yes, but not Thirsty. When that was written they were, for all we know, still happy, and I doubt she would slam her husband and father of her children in such a way. An ex she doesn't give two hoots about, yes, but not Nick. She has way more class than that. Nick also said it was his favourite song, plus he's never "changed his name" like the lyrics suggest.
(Tuesday 9 September 2014; 8:37)
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The Elusive Chanteuse Show (46,686)
by Isabelle from USA
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I been listening to some live performances from Music Box tour, Daydream tour, Butterfly tour, TAOM tour and the Australian tour. And I feel like Mariah needs to get some new arrangements for some of her earlier work for this upcoming tour. Hearing Mariah struggle a bit in her Heartbreaker medley during the TAOM was worrisome. I think she needs to find the right arrangements for songs that would be suitable for her to perform live. She needs to let her backup singers do what they are hired to do. She tries to sing every run in her songs. Her trying to perform the more up-tempo versions of Heartbreaker or Fantasy would be too much for her to do during the tour. I see her best doing the Heartbreaker/Love Hangover/Junior Mix medley would be great for her to perform because it's not that fast paced. Also doing new instrumental arrangements would be great as well. Have you all listened to the LBCK remix of Emotions? It makes it feel brand new but it has the stays true to the original. The arrangement she gave Shake It Off in 2012 was great, she needs to do something new for WBT, every performance she has given for that song has been the same, the beginning reminds me of Patti's Love, Need and Want You everytime I listen to it.
(Tuesday 9 September 2014; 6:13)
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