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Anniversary of Alfred Roy Carey's death (45,220) by THE TRUTH from USA I found this online, first admission I've seen where she admits lying about her heritage. I couldn't find one picture of them together. "Mariah's relationship with her father was much more distant. First of all, he wanted to give her a very strict upbringing that didn't suit her mischievous character. Also, her parents divorced when she was only 3. For example, when Mariah hummed at the dinner table, her father would immediately tell her to keep quiet. Mariah would directly get up from the table and continue singing. Of course, it'd make her father angry. After the divorce, Alfred and Alison moved to Washington D.C. In the beginning, Mariah used to visit him quite often. Nevertheless, she recalls with embarrassment that she used to hide so that the other kids wouldn't see her with a black man. Mariah would tell them that her dark complexion was due to her Italian origins. Progressively, those visits became less frequent. Not that long ago, her father wasn't even aware of her success. He believed that she had only released one album thus far. For a laugh, Mariah and her mom would call it 'the album'. On July 4th 2002, Alfred Roy Carey lost his battle to cancer." (Saturday 5 July 2014; 0:13)

Stephen you beat me to it (45,219) by Manny from U.S. I am listening to Fourth of July. Happy Fourth of July. After that, I will listen to all of Mariah's "America The Beautiful" performances. Maybe she should release a patriotic album. It'll include the "America the Beautiful" performances, Star-Spangled Banner (both of them), and when she performed for the troops. (Friday 4 July 2014; 19:01)

Cover songs (45,218) by Warr-en-Peace from United States I know Mariah has a fair amount of success with cover songs, especially in foreign markets. However, I cannot help but notice that she seems less connected with a cover song than with one that she personally writes. To me, while One More Try and Heavenly are absolutely amazing vocally, I feel Mariah could have easily written something that sampled each song instead of doing blatant covers. It's less likely she will have a hit song with a cover than with an original song that samples a classic. If you listen to Mary Mary sing Heavenly, you realize many of the melisma and belts that seem to be Mariah's doing are actually part of the original. This takes away from the song a little for me. Just an observation. (Friday 4 July 2014; 17:11)

Happy 4th of July (45,217) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom Happy 4th of July to all the US fans. *plays 4th of July* (Friday 4 July 2014; 17:10)

Lyrics (45,216) by Warr-en-Peace from United States I think it's so funny how no one really ever agrees with what is the correct version of lyrics. I think Mariah often designs songs so that you hear what you want or need to hear. Take for instance Skydiving. I doubt anyone knows 100% correct lyrics and everyone disagrees on them. Unless Mariah releases a lyric booklet, we have no idea what they really are. Personally I like it, cause I can be listening to a 5-year-old song and find new lyrics. Like I had no idea until last year that Mariah said, "He's all up in my George Foreman" in Obsessed. Haha love it. PS Does anyone have an untagged Skydiving? (Friday 4 July 2014; 17:07)

4th of July ritual (45,215) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines We Filipinos don't recognize July 4 as any special day, but what the heck - happy 4th of July. For the past 5 years, every time this day arrives, it's been a tradition for me to play my favorite song off Butterfly, Fourth Of July. I know, literal much? Haha. I'm corny that way. Recently, though, I've added a few of her songs that share the same dream-like, fantasy feel production and vibe-wise as a lead-in to the "main event". My mini 4th of July playlist goes like this: Bliss Yours Supernatural (newly added) Underneath The Stars Fourth Of July They all sound so great in such sequence. Mostly subdued vocals floating on clouds of vocal harmonies. Heaven. (Friday 4 July 2014; 16:15)

"Attack of the killer oysters" (45,214) by Steve from USA I remember that also but doubt that it was any type of cover up. It happened while she was in the middle of the Rainbow tour. She did a show while feeling ill, and went to the hospital right after the concert. She got better just in time to perform at Divas Live. (Friday 4 July 2014; 6:49)

Cry lyrics (45,213) by Todd from Melbourne, Australia I'm pretty sure those lyrics of Cry are "Imprudently, I left every cell in me so naked, somewhere at the core of you plays our song." Could be wrong. But I doubt it. Haha. (Friday 4 July 2014; 4:12)

Clams poisoning (45,211) by Mike RC from Spain (45,212) by B from USA Thanks, Mike for the info on the situation going on at the time between Mariah and Luis and his ex. Makes sense. After watching her sister struggle with addiction I highly doubt Mariah would use drugs. I know she drinks and makes references to marijuana in some songs like It's Like That. I think her vocal issues have been caused by age. Even with the vocal decline over the last decade she still has her voice. Her range seems the same. She can still reach high and low notes no other singer not even Whitney could. She's being bashed because of the way she dresses and the low sales, not her music. Critics have praised this album as a return to form. Saying that this returns her to her musical sweet spot. (Friday 4 July 2014; 3:59)

Clams poisoning (45,211) by Mike RC from Spain B from USA, yeah, I remember she had "clams poisoning" during Rainbow era, I think she was on promo tour in Asia. And I didn't know about Elisabeth Taylor using that to cover up a drug problem, but I always believed Mariah used that excuse because Luis Miguel was cheating on her. The day after the "clams poisoning" news, Luis Miguel was all over Spanish yellow press because she would have met his ex-girlfriend in Acapulco or something like that. I never liked him anyway. (Friday 4 July 2014; 0:01)

Cry analysis (45,210) by B from USA Cell: A body of persons forming a single unit. Imprudently, lacking discretion, boldly. She's talking about how she left behind a part of herself or lost a part of herself when the relationship was over. She jumped into a relationship knowing they both had flaws and issues and regrets how things played out. She also takes responsibility for her part. Hopefully that helps you understand those lyrics better. I know loooking the words up helped me. Bless our souls, is her way of asking God to help them both heal and move on. (Thursday 3 July 2014; 23:48)

Thirsty in Paris (45,209) by Lee from UK I absolutely love this mix. I especially like the Ariana Grande interlude. "I will shut this shit down." (Thursday 3 July 2014; 21:29)

YDKWTD (45,206) by Dove from USA Just sharing my two cents for the video. I was watching Donna Summer behind the music and Hot Stuff came on - I think it was a live version. It made me think that YDKWTD needs to hit harder (drums) and the hand clapping noise needs to be taken out. I think a live band to play the song would be awesome. Her voice is strong and perfect she wouldn't need to re-sing it. For the video, I agree with the person that said 70s themed. The glittery mermaid dress would be totally appropriate in this case, maybe a gold one, but with a belt to cinch in her waist. The wild hair would even look good in a disco ball video. I'm seeing the video in this filter with the bright white light on her. Also, when I said it needs to hit harder, it may also be the base, not just the drums. (Thursday 3 July 2014; 19:33)

Butterfly drink (45,205) by Dove from USA I finally bought the Butterfly drink and it's so good. I don't like pink lemonade, so I wasn't expecting to like it, but like someone else mentioned, it tastes more like a liquified ring pop. Even my son loved it. I was looking all over for a Walgreen's and got really excited when I found it. My son asked, "What's the big deal anyway?" I said, "Mariah Carey is my favorite celebrity, ever since I was a little girl - kind of like how you look up to John Cena." So I bought two and bought him the drink he usually buys. He tasted mine and wanted to trade because he said it was so good. But he didn't want anyone to see him drink it from a girly bottle. The bottle is really pretty and girl. I'm going to buy more later. It's not expensive either, I think they were $2 each or two for $3. (Thursday 3 July 2014; 19:04)

Elizabeth Taylor (45,204) by B from USA I read Elizabeth Taylor's bio and her PR team released a statement about food poisioning from clams or crab as a cover story for her overdose. Reading that made me think of Mariah during the Rainbow era. She even made a joke about attack of the killer crabs/clams at the Divas Live show. Does anyone else remember this? (Thursday 3 July 2014; 18:23)

Samuel / London fan meetup (45,203) by Martyn from England, UK Not childish at all, would probably be better to do it over Facebook instead of irritating all the non-UK lambs in this messageboard with constant messages. I just didn't know we were allowed to give out our FB details here. I'm Martyn Hakan Hett for anyone interested in the meetup. You may need to follow me first as I think I turned friend requests off, then I can add you. (Thursday 3 July 2014; 15:17)

Okay... (45,202) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines It's true - Mariah just can't win in any way now, especially critically. Whatever she does or doesn't do, people will always find or even make up faults or stories to tear her apart. So while some see mass bullying on this board, I personally see tough love, and there's a clear difference between the two. For me, I make sure that for every "negative" opinion I post, I post about 1-2 "positive/neutral" ones (mostly about her music, because that's what it's ultimately all about) that aren't related to the current hot-button topics on this board to balance things out and break the ice a bit. I hope other fans rest assured that our criticism comes from a good place and not let that take away from the fact that we, like everyone here, love Mariah like a family member. We get hurt too when she gets trashed publicly especially for reasons that are petty or even worse, untrue. And while I agree that it's a great decision for her not to address most of this, as doing so would only make her seem defensive and even more insecure, what we mean when we suggest she should "change her ways" is for her to peek out of her protective bubble more and try to listen to what people are saying and examine herself based on those observations, as some of those are bound to be true, and she could take them as opportunities for growth. Right now, the only other thing other than great new music that's keeping her relatable is her focus on her family life which she generously shares through social media. (Thursday 3 July 2014; 10:15)

MOAIA and Rainbow (45,201) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Mariah intended Memoirs Of An Imperfect Angel to be Butterfly 2.0, which obviously didn't turn out to be the case. I remember a reviewer saying that it's a lot more like Rainbow instead. I do get his point. Even though released a decade apart, they do share several similarities: both albums were rushed, are underrated, have some painfully obvious filler (X-Girlfriend and More Than Just Friends), contain questionable interludes (Vulnerability and The Impossible (Reprise)), as well as interludes that should've been fleshed out as full songs (Rainbow, Languishing), includes covers of 80s #1 hits, feature a couple of deeply personal songs, and have songs that swipe people she doesn't like. Rainbow is often overlooked despite vital Mimi material (Heartbreaker, Can't Take That Away, Bliss, Crybaby, Petals, Thank God I Found You). MOAIA can't seem to shake off its association with its underwhelming performance despite great tracks (Betcha Gon' Know, H.A.T.E.U., Ribbon, Standing O, It's A Wrap, Angels Cry). Both albums are also sequenced perfectly to narrate great stories of love and heartbreak, although Rainbow ends happily while MOAIA finishes on a sad yet hopeful note. Personally, I like the former for its urban feel and high hit ratio while I also appreciate the latter's cohesiveness and R&B overload. Has anyone else also drawn such parallels between the two? (Thursday 3 July 2014; 9:32)

Thirsty in Paris (45,200) by Gilles from Malta It is a sample from Jay Z but the mix is so So So Def. (Thursday 3 July 2014; 9:05)

Mariah still not promoting (45,199) by Ty from USA I smell a damn rat. I think Mariah is over this label. Whereas we have seen no Ellen, no View, no Fallon performance, no late night performance, a tv show where she looks bored to death. You work 4 years on a cd and let it die? You have the best reviews of your career and won't give your fans the live acoustic performance of Cry or the [...]. Again she's about to jump ship over with LA Reid. Sad though, because I love this cd and listen to it cover to cover. (Thursday 3 July 2014; 4:01)

YDKWTD (45,198) by JP from USA This just might be the single that saves the album and the song of the summer. Everybody request. "Mimi's infectious Wale-assisted disco anthem is the third-most added song to urban radio this week, behind T.I. and Iggy Azalea's 'No Mediocre' and Mike WiLL Made-It's 'Buy The World'." (Thursday 3 July 2014; 0:57)

London lambs meet up (45,197) by S from England This sounds really out of character and childish of me (lol), but I don't care. I've always liked Mariah and I want to meet some of her fans right here in London where I live. Let's make it happen. Add me on fb: Samuel Kalejaiye (I'm the black guy). Or alternatively, email me at: samtos@hotmail.co.uk. I'm thinking maybe sometime this month at a restaurant in cental London. Let's make it happen. (Thursday 3 July 2014; 0:28)

Martyn (45,196) by Jay from USA Thanks for sharing. (Wednesday 2 July 2014; 23:07)

Divorce (45,195) by Dove from USA I am so happy that Mariah is enjoying her babies. At first I was disappointed because the new album wasn't number 1, but the more I think about it, I don't care that much. She's already had lots of number 1s. She's won pretty much every award for music and broken many records. She should enjoy her family because that's the legacy that's most important. I am certain that she will always make music because she loves it. She's living the dream and I am so happy for her and proud of her. If the rumors are true that she and Nick are having problems, she could live in LA to support Nick in accomplishing his dream and the kids could have more space and swim in a real pool and see their dad. Counseling could help them. Whenever she feels inspired she can call people to write with her, improve her piano skills. Divorce makes me so sad. I wish I had not gotten divorced because it makes my son so sad. (Wednesday 2 July 2014; 21:51)

I want to be BFF with Mariah (45,194) by Dove from USA 5 Unspoken rules between best friends (Wednesday 2 July 2014; 20:58)

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