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Samples (44,701) by PJW from The U.K. Clueey, this is regarding one of your posts again. Lol. You spoke about Mariah using Eddie Kendrick's sample and it reminded me that one of the things I've really appreciated about Mariah's music over the years is her use of incredible samples and the music it's opened me up to that I might never have heard, aswell as always marvelling at how well (I think) they've been used. A lot of non fans don't agree but I've always appreciated and seen the beauty in both. (Thursday 12 June 2014; 20:23)

Lol moment (44,700) by Me. I am Carly from USA Super cute moment today, when trying to send back the regular deluxe version of MIAM to Target, so I could get the correct Target version with the America The Beautiful track. I gave the UPS guy (he was in his twenties or thirties) the CD and he says to me "What you don't like Mariah?" Hilarious I had to explain that she has three versions and I simply was sent the wrong one. (Thursday 12 June 2014; 20:04)

YDKWTD, Meteorite, or MILG (44,699) by B from USA Mariah, JD, and Island/Def Jam need to release one of those three songs to radio with a Clear Channel deal, a video, and line up performances/interviews on Fallon and/or Ellen. Shaking my head at this diva sized debacle. What is going on? (Thursday 12 June 2014; 19:57)

Talking of Mariah's sexiness (44,697) by PJW from The U.K. I'll tell you when she really was: at the end of the "Touch my body" video in the jeans and brown t-shirt. Phwoar. (Thursday 12 June 2014; 18:05)

Re. Edward Butterfly and Unicorn water (44,696) by Joe from United Kingdom I literally burst out laughing at your post. I just keep imagining a cheesy commercial of someone in awe of the pink yet lavender butterflies flying out of the bottle. (Thursday 12 June 2014; 17:59)

#JusticeForMeIAmMariah (44,695) by Miguel from México We all should tweet that. Lol. (Thursday 12 June 2014; 17:57)

Favorite song off the album? (44,694) by Dani from USA Mine has got to be YDKWTD. Maybe I'm wrong here, but I feel it's very reminiscent of I Feel It and Sprung. There's a timelessness to the song and yet it's also very catchy. Thirsty is also growing on me, to be quite honest. I can almost picture a story behind it or even a music video. Maybe four different Mariah's surrounding a playboy type of character. One would appear consecutively with each refrain, "Uhhh, you're thirsty." Kind of the same effect that was on "Don't Stop (Funkin' 4 Jamaica)". Then a hologram of Rich Homie Quan above the playboy would pop up with the future-ish backing vocals. I can also see a slowmo close-up during the outro of the song with MC throwing champagne into the playboy's face. Oh man. Maybe I put a lot of thought into it. Hahahaha. (Thursday 12 June 2014; 17:45)

Stephen / the Butterfly beverage (44,693) by Edward from USA Stephen, did you really think I bought the Butterfly Water? It seems to be my sarcasm is not coming across in some of my posts. I love Mariah's music, and I've had some of her tour stuff, but none of the other stuff like perfumes, waters, panties, and other nonsense. I am happy with the music on MIAMTEC, but very disappointed with the .essthis has been. (Thursday 12 June 2014; 17:10)

#Thanksmariah (44,692) by Me. I am Carly from USA In five minutes lambs internationally will tweet #ThanksMariah. If you still qualify do your part. (Thursday 12 June 2014; 15:56)

I can't wait (44,691) by Dan from US To hear what is really going on with this album behind the scenes, maybe she actually didn't finish tracks that she thought would be hits and knew it was the dropping ball she had to release something for us lambs and the public before she got bashed some more hahah. I mean you never know it could be re released part two lol, Me I Am Mariah Part II. (Thursday 12 June 2014; 15:01)

Betcha gon know / Cluey (44,690) by PJW from The U.K. In response to your post about BGK: I agree on both your points. R. Kelly is a fantastic musician, lyricists and has a beautiful voice. Mariah is an RnB artist through and through and that's exactly the way I like her. My fav tracks are her RnB ones, whatever vocal spectacular she may pull on others. But him on this, I don't get it. As someone else said, his verses doesn't make sense to what she's talking about. There's no response as in on "How much" with Usher, instead his statement about a completely unrelated event. Then there's the poor copy and paste esque insertion of his vocals and the odd fact that she didn't remove the intro to the song referencing her last album or the "to be continued". Why not? In the same vein and referencing an old post of mine, I was disappointed to see they kept the drink pouring in "It's a wrap". Perhaps in that and "Thirsty" they're pouring Butterfly. (Thursday 12 June 2014; 12:50)

Response to Cluey (44,689) by PJW from The U.K. For me, how Mariah behaves is taken so seriously because she takes herself so seriously and tries so hard. Nothing is natural, from the poses in photos to her directing a video of her walking across the street. Her music videos are 3 minutes of her trying to be as sexy as possible without realising that real sexiness isn't constructed, it just is. And, as I've said before, that all comes from deep insecurity and the need to be validated. What's sad about it is that in real life she's unbelievably beautiful and when just talking to you, she's natural, sweet, friendly and down to earth (at least on quite a few occasions that I've met her, the last one being in 06). But as soon as a camera is in her face her ego kicks in and she goes into pose mode all the while claiming she's "just being casual". Even if it's a joke - which it's not - it's not funny. There's no punch line. She has a concept of who she is publicly in her head and can't seem to break it down, more than likely because of people around her who are also on her payroll (Rachel, the BVlists, J.D. etc.) who seemingly go along with this joke/act. even her husband was a love blind fan beforehand, he made no point of hiding it. And so, to answer your question, it's taken seriously because she'll dress something up as "just walking across the street" when it's clear that's not what's happening, as opposed to Miley or Gaga making blatant publicity stunts and not hiding the fact that they are. It looks stupid. (Thursday 12 June 2014; 12:40)

Mariah's selling out / can't relate to her (44,688) by Tiina from Finland Remember when Mariah said to Wendy Williams that she thinks that selling all this other crap along with the music was money-hungry (she was shading J.Lo then) and that she was more of a purist and preferred sticking to the music. I always loved that about her. It all started quite innocently when she released her first perfume. But after the 3 first ones, I lost a little respect for Mariah when the perfumes started coming out one after the other and you could see they were nothing special at all and it was all really tacky. She said that Elizabeth Arden, the company she works for to create these perfumes, said she's the hardest-working celebrity they've met, that she's been very involved creating her products yet she went on to say that she didn't name the Lollipop Bling perfume line, that it wasn't her idea and she was embarrassed about it. And then of course the HSN thing and the OPI nail polishes. I'm not saying that her lines were all tacky and basic (I bought her nail polish) but I was a little sad she ended up on this road. And now she's done what I was afraid of, she's began to neglect the music to promote her business ventures. It's so bizarre to think that Mariah Carey, this amazing artist extraordinaire, has actually come out with a sugary drink to sell. I think it speaks volumes about her losing touch with her fans and also losing touch with her artistry. She's become very unrelatable, not on a record but as a person. I love her but it's the truth. (Thursday 12 June 2014; 12:22)

Manny / Edward (44,686) by Stephen from London, United Kingdom It's just a joke lol. I would never purchase something so ridiculous though, which is why I made the comment. That's no shade towards you Edward for buying it. Each to his or her own. (Thursday 12 June 2014; 11:07)

Vines (44,684) by Mara from United States Has anyone else seen the recent vines and pics Mariah has been posting lately? I am really starting to worry about her and feel like something else is going on right now. Not talking about the subway and taxi ones in the blue ball gown, but she just posted another one last night in a black ball gown posing at night in the streets of NYC. She was singing to a friend and pulling her and she even looked a little uncomfortable with how MC was acting. Did anyone see these? I just don't get a good vibe from any of this. (Thursday 12 June 2014; 7:04)

Laughed at (44,683) by Will from Australia News.com.au is the most read news website in Australia, one of the headlines right now is: "WTF? Mariah's crazy claims about her new beverage." So sad but her image could be beyond repair at this point. (Thursday 12 June 2014; 5:57)

Thoughts (44,682) by clueey23 from USA Why must every little thing MC does like riding the subway in a Versace gown be taken so seriously? It was a moment that just happened to make headlines and she looked great doing so. But Gaga walks around like a true nutcase Illuminati monster puppet and the world adores it, Miley Cyrus gives blow jobs to blow up dolls and the world still moves. Beyoncé and Rihanna move records but I honestly never get the best vibes from their music. Heaven forbid MC just does what she wants to do though. (Thursday 12 June 2014; 5:22)

Thoughts (44,681) by clueey23 from USA Does "One More Try" remind anyone else of "Never Forget You"? Very nostalgic. MC put her all into this album and it's sad that so many people are so focused and worried about what they can't control. Just enjoy the music. Let the music execs worry about all that political bull. This album in my eyes is like a soap opera. From beginning to end. I love the remixes because they actually add to the story that she has told in the first half before she brings us to the deluxe. Notice that "It's A Wrap" has the same record playing sound as "Heavenly". It's all about the details. I think the duets are genius. Mary J. Blige holds back vocally and I appreciate that because on the record she is playing the role of a supportive friend. R. Kelly is one of the best writers to ever do it. Period. And he adds so much more depth to the song. It was already deep and he took it to another level. If you all aren't a fan of r&b and hip-hop or soul, I just really feel like you couldn't really understand MC at the core of who she truly is as an artist. I told you once and I'm gonna say it again she is an R&B artist that happens to be POPular. It just happens to be that R&B isn't that popular anymore. Congratulations to MC and team for having the #1 R&B album. (Thursday 12 June 2014; 5:07)

Availability (44,680) by 123 from USA When it is easier to get a hold of her soft drink then her Target exclusive deluxe version that is a problem. I heard UMG purposely under shipped the album so even if she did promote there wouldn't be enough copies, not that it is an excuse not to, if people know about it and demand it the label will have to supply it. Most Targets that I went to in Chicago didn't have the deluxe anymore or didn't even have the CD. I finally found one that had several of the deluxe copies but none were the Target exclusive versions (with the alternate cover and America The Beautiful). If the label is doing you dirty, then promote the album and if there is a lack of copies, it will only out their shady agenda. Ugh. Still love the album and I still want to hear the song that was played on the Barbara Walters special (Not Bring It On Home), so jazzy sounding track that I need in my life. (Thursday 12 June 2014; 4:45)

Bonus tracks (44,679) by 123 from USA Love them. At first, I hated the cut and paste situation, especially because they didn't even try to make it sound like one recording, but I love Mary and R Kelly's efforts on the tracks. Both of them sounded like they were giving their all in their performance and seemed happy to finally be on a track with her. Mary sounds great and R Kelly is really singing. These tracks fit perfectly on the album and I'm glad we got to hear them. I can take or leave TAOLG, I prefer America the Beautiful. Got both the deluxe and original versions but I can't find the Target exclusive version anywhere (the Japanese version). I might have to order one online, especially if the lyrics are included on that one. Anyone know how and how much they are going for? (Thursday 12 June 2014; 4:37)

Album situation (44,678) by 123 from USA Is she boycotting promoting her own product to get back at the label? Why has she continued to keep quiet? It was understandable before releasing the album as I though she wanted to keep details under wraps so that her surprises wouldn't be spoiled but this is a mess. It's weird because Steve Bartels accompanied her to the Fresh Air Fund event and stated they would released YDKWTD as the next single and a choreographer posted a pic stating rehearsals for YDKWTD video. Idk if she feels that since she was able to fight Columbia and her ex husband and make it out alive that she can do the same with Def Jam but at what cost? Her health took a major toll last time. I would rather she just promote the album if she can't talk about it yet and then speak on it later. Don't get me wrong, I'm still happy that we got a great album, but I aint buying your sugar water Mariah, I'm not happy with you right now. Hopefully she explains what is going on soon, because I can't take it anymore (plays YDKWTD). (Thursday 12 June 2014; 4:34)

Random (44,677) by clueey23 from USA This is random but, my alarm clock ringer is "Meteorite". Something about, "Gotta get up, cause you know the world is waiting." Lol. Not to mention one of my other favs Eddie Kendricks of the Temptations is practically featured with his song "Goin' Up In Smoke". I love the fact that they kept his vocals. A lot of artist sample his work but never really give credit where credit is due. (Thursday 12 June 2014; 4:19)

First post MC and thoughts (44,676) by TiffMelody from USA Hi. I like this board, some of the comments are funny. What I like about MC is that she is an artist who wants to reach the average Joe through her music. I mean she is not some celeb, catering to an elite group of people. She is very deliberate in how she executes her message in her songs. So when I see MC photos I don't see the glamor image or diva photo op, but a vulnerable person. Diva image thing may be her way of showing a brave face. Based on her song lyrics, she is much a deeper person. Even her relationship songs can communicate her inner sense of vulnerability, intimate thoughts. Still, we live in a culture of making snap judgments based off photos (recent being the one at the park). The truth is we don't know MC's schedule. She could've easily had business lunch or setup dinner afterwards and she took some time out for the kids in between. Who knows? MC is very busy, and kids, they don't want to wait. The point is you don't want to be swayed by snap judgments because false perceptions can easily be made off a photo, esp. taken out of context. (Thursday 12 June 2014; 4:17)

Re: Jewel (44,675) by Anonymous from I was trying to express the same but my English is not that good as yours lol. So thank you. You have said what I think. She's taking the wrong way but no matter what I'm here for here even when sometimes I just wanna say f**k you MC. Hehe but just for a little moment. She's flying too high from the ground. (Thursday 12 June 2014; 2:58)

Relatability / MJB (44,674) by Marissa from USA I see what you're saying Jewel. It's like Mariah keeps reinforcing the fact that she's so different from everyone else when in reality millions of other people have gone through the same things. She's multiracial. So are millions of people, especially nowadays. She's been in a controlling relationship. Many women have been in that same predicament and are still in it now. She's carried twins (this is the one she just can't let go of). Millions of women have done that for centuries and gotten over it. I'm not saying that these things weren't hurtful, but she keeps harping on it when many people have gone through the same things and moved on. She keeps trying to make it seem like what she's gone through is just so unheard of and that's really keeping people at a distance. What's sad about this is that she has the potential to connect with so many people through these different struggles that she's had, but since she's so attached to the diva antics people literally forget or aren't aware of the fact that Mariah was once a normal human being with life struggles. When it comes to relatability nowadays I think she needs to take notes from MJB. Watch any MJB interview and you won't feel like you're watching an untouchable celebrity, but someone who could be your own friend. Yet she still has the money, fame and most importantly the solid fanbase because people "feel" Mary and it's been that way ever since she came out. Relatability is the best marketing strategy. (Thursday 12 June 2014; 2:50)

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