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Time for lists lol (103,024)
by Bill from the UK
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Randy you know the word "list" summons me from my 90s bubble. This is from a US perspective seeing as she's only had 3 #1's in the UK.
10. Never Too Far
9. Loverboy
8. I Know What You Want
7. I Want to Know What Love Is
6. Butterfly
5. Make It Happen
4. Can't Let Go
3. Breakdown
2. Anytime You Need a Friend
1. Without You
(Tuesday 18 July 2023; 21:43)
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Time for lists lol (103,023)
by Randy from USA
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So since there's no news right now, let's do our favorite MC singles (releases, sent to radio or video made) that didn't go to number 1.
10. GTFO
9. Never Too Far
8. Can't Take That Away (Mariah's Theme)
7. Loverboy
6. Never Forget You/Without You
5. Breakdown
4. Bye Bye
3. Can't Let Go
2. Through The Rain
1. Butterfly
(Tuesday 18 July 2023; 20:35)
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Time for lists lol (103,023)
by Randy from USA
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So since there's no news right now, let's do our favorite MC singles (releases, sent to radio or video made) that didn't go to number 1.
10. GTFO
9. Never Too Far
8. Can't Take That Away (Mariah's Theme)
7. Loverboy
6. Never Forget You/Without You
5. Breakdown
4. Bye Bye
3. Can't Let Go
2. Through The Rain
1. Butterfly
(Tuesday 18 July 2023; 20:35)
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Emotionally stiff (103,022)
by Andrew from the UK
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I believe Music Box was savaged by critics because they just didn't like Mariah: young girl marries the much older, much less attractive, boss of the record company. For love? There's no way to know other than to go off Mariah's representations but given that she is a very unreliable witness/narrator, to say the least, it's dubious. It seemed, to many, like a shrewd calculated move by a conceited climber, so to speak. And the critics went off her. She responded with Daydream and she sat at the Grammy's next to Tommy Mottola looking like a spare at a wedding. What was going through her mind on that night, I wonder? Whatever was going through her mind when she married Tommy, whether for her career or for love, it was a gobsmackingly stupid thing to do for a whole host of reasons that I don't just see in hindsight - I saw them back then as I am sure many here did. But Music Box is a masterpiece of power balladry and bubblegum pop and should stop being disparaged by everyone just because they think it's cool to do so. Admittedly, there is infinitely more nuance to the vocal performance on Daydream, but, c'mon, you aren't really going to claim that Mariah would not have sung Daydream just like Music Box had the pipes not started, er, overheating - which I think must have been the reason Mariah took her clothes off in 1997 and not put them back on since: to cool down. It just made matters even worse, because critics and many fans alike never really forgave the sudden emergence of Long Island Barbie. It's frustrating to think of what could have been had she made different choices. I don't think Mariah as naive as people make out she was. She took several gambles and they backfired. So yes, Music Box was pop-crafted power schmaltz balladry but Whitney did exactly the same and critics loved her.
(Tuesday 18 July 2023; 13:58)
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Emotionally stiff (103,010)
by Geronimo from USA
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I agree with you that some people got a pass while Mariah was being disparaged for formulaic and schmaltzy ballads that came off as emotionally flat. But Mariah was definitely guilty of this especially during the Emotions and Music Box era. Some of that material was very catchy, but very cliché at the same time. Some vocal performances from that time period - especially on recordings - focused on frenetic but impressive vocal gymnastics that appeal to people who prefer Hallmark card sentiments and adult contemporary/romantic comedy kitch.
Daydream is when I really started falling in love with Mariah Carey as a creative singer-songwriter. She started making more intelligent musical "choices" as a vocalist then and begin to sound more like a creative person with something other than skill and novelty to offer. In other words, the artist I thought she foreshadow it on her debut album took centerstage by the time Butterfly came out.
(Friday 14 July 2023; 01:48)
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MC should come clean (103,021)
by Bobby A from United States
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Really? If you go to the Epic website and scroll through their artist roster names, MC's name is not there. Legacy Recordings exist to manage the archive recordings of artists who released recordings under Sony and its subsidiaries. The Rarities album was released under Columbia/Legacy.
(Tuesday 18 July 2023; 13:25)
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MC should come clean (103,020)
by Nikki from usa
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So, we're just making things up now? Mariah hasn't been dropped. Epic is just another branch of Sony, Mariah's under Legacy for older artists. They're not going to get rid of her, she makes too much money every Christmas along with her back catalog. She has a 3 album deal and has only delivered 1. If they dropped her, they'd have to pay for that. Which didn't work out well for Virgin. She delivered different compilations with new music in 2019 and 2020. She can release an album when she wants to, but there's no rush in such a climate. She just finished producing a Broadway show and was discussing making her memoir movie. She's doing a lot behind the scenes. Her deal doesn't include touring, she has a specific deal with Live Nation. The way you all rip her vocals apart no matter what she does just doesn't surprise me, she's not rushing to release new material. Madonna's deal is done, not sure why she was brought up in this convo at all, did she even get a new one?
(Tuesday 18 July 2023; 10:53)
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MC should come clean (103,020)
by Nikki from usa
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So, we're just making things up now? Mariah hasn't been dropped. Epic is just another branch of Sony, Mariah's under Legacy for older artists. They're not going to get rid of her, she makes too much money every Christmas along with her back catalog. She has a 3 album deal and has only delivered 1. If they dropped her, they'd have to pay for that. Which didn't work out well for Virgin. She delivered different compilations with new music in 2019 and 2020. She can release an album when she wants to, but there's no rush in such a climate. She just finished producing a Broadway show and was discussing making her memoir movie. She's doing a lot behind the scenes. Her deal doesn't include touring, she has a specific deal with Live Nation. The way you all rip her vocals apart no matter what she does just doesn't surprise me, she's not rushing to release new material. Madonna's deal is done, not sure why she was brought up in this convo at all, did she even get a new one?
(Tuesday 18 July 2023; 10:53)
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MC should come clean (102,983)
by Bobby A from United States
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There is only one other major female R&B singer without a label right now. Her name is Jill Scott. She only released one album on Atlantic and they dropped her just like MC on Epic with Caution. I guess when you no longer have the radio hits and enormous album sales, female artists have a difficult time keeping their record deals. What is Madonna doing differently that keeps her career moving forward without the radio hits and enormous album sales? If MC would go independent, she would receive more respect as an older female artist. A partnership record deal with a high profile pop or R&B male artist would help kick start her career too. I definitely could see Trey Songz or Ryan Tedder do a full complete album with MC.
(Sunday 9 July 2023; 17:57)
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Will we ever have another album? (103,019)
by "MariahHater" from Hell
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It's almost 5 years since Caution. Her longest with no proper album releases. She gave us jams but of course, everyone is excited for another era of Mariah Carey. I am not complaining but more of wanting another art to consume. Continuous seeking of newness will always be a caveat of any living human.
(Tuesday 18 July 2023; 06:55)
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Bye Bryan (103,018)
by Jamie from UK
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My mistake, I must have missed it. I'd defo say they are still together.
(Monday 17 July 2023; 14:53)
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Bye Bryan (103,017)
by Carlos from Brazil
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What are you saying? He is still following Mariah.
(Monday 17 July 2023; 13:02)
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Bye Bryan (103,017)
by Carlos from Brazil
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What are you saying? He is still following Mariah.
(Monday 17 July 2023; 13:02)
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Bye Bryan (103,015)
by Jamie from UK
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She is still following him on Instagram, but he's not following her. Tommy Mottola follows Mariah but she doesn't follow him. I'm not sure if they have split or not, is there any evidence for this?
(Monday 17 July 2023; 10:58)
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Bye Bryan (103,016)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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I don't believe it either. Until there is evidence. Just another rumor about breaking up, isn't it?
(Monday 17 July 2023; 11:45)
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Bye Bryan (103,015)
by Jamie from UK
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She is still following him on Instagram, but he's not following her. Tommy Mottola follows Mariah but she doesn't follow him. I'm not sure if they have split or not, is there any evidence for this?
(Monday 17 July 2023; 10:58)
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Bye Bryan (103,015)
by Jamie from UK
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She is still following him on Instagram, but he's not following her. Tommy Mottola follows Mariah but she doesn't follow him. I'm not sure if they have split or not, is there any evidence for this?
(Monday 17 July 2023; 10:58)
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Bye Bryan (103,013)
by Brandon from USA
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So it's very obvious that MC and Bryan are no longer together. Who do [you] think would be a good match for our queen?
(Monday 17 July 2023; 01:15)
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Bye Bryan (103,014)
by Bobby A from United States
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I knew something was up when her previous MIAM era bodyguard was back protecting her. It would have to be somebody who has children already and not in the music industry. I am pretty Tanaka was being pressured by his mother to give her some grandchildren.
(Monday 17 July 2023; 01:45)
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Bye Bryan (103,013)
by Brandon from USA
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So it's very obvious that MC and Bryan are no longer together. Who do [you] think would be a good match for our queen?
(Monday 17 July 2023; 01:15)
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Bye Bryan (103,013)
by Brandon from USA
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So it's very obvious that MC and Bryan are no longer together. Who do [you] think would be a good match for our queen?
(Monday 17 July 2023; 01:15)
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Emotionally stiff (103,012)
by Lady B from USA
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How anyone could listen to Vanishing on her debut album and think she was emotionally stiff until several albums later is beyond me, but we all have opinions.
(Friday 14 July 2023; 14:33)
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Emotionally stiff (103,010)
by Geronimo from USA
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I agree with you that some people got a pass while Mariah was being disparaged for formulaic and schmaltzy ballads that came off as emotionally flat. But Mariah was definitely guilty of this especially during the Emotions and Music Box era. Some of that material was very catchy, but very cliché at the same time. Some vocal performances from that time period - especially on recordings - focused on frenetic but impressive vocal gymnastics that appeal to people who prefer Hallmark card sentiments and adult contemporary/romantic comedy kitch.
Daydream is when I really started falling in love with Mariah Carey as a creative singer-songwriter. She started making more intelligent musical "choices" as a vocalist then and begin to sound more like a creative person with something other than skill and novelty to offer. In other words, the artist I thought she foreshadow it on her debut album took centerstage by the time Butterfly came out.
(Friday 14 July 2023; 01:48)
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by Bobby A from United States
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Thank you, Lady B.
(Friday 14 July 2023; 12:10)
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by Lady B from USA
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Hope you feel better soon, Robert. Sending you good vibes.
Like I said, Mariah seems to be really focused on spending time with her family, which is wonderful to see. Wishing her the best.
(Thursday 13 July 2023; 19:17)
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Emotionally stiff (103,010)
by Geronimo from USA
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I agree with you that some people got a pass while Mariah was being disparaged for formulaic and schmaltzy ballads that came off as emotionally flat. But Mariah was definitely guilty of this especially during the Emotions and Music Box era. Some of that material was very catchy, but very cliché at the same time. Some vocal performances from that time period - especially on recordings - focused on frenetic but impressive vocal gymnastics that appeal to people who prefer Hallmark card sentiments and adult contemporary/romantic comedy kitch.
Daydream is when I really started falling in love with Mariah Carey as a creative singer-songwriter. She started making more intelligent musical "choices" as a vocalist then and begin to sound more like a creative person with something other than skill and novelty to offer. In other words, the artist I thought she foreshadow it on her debut album took centerstage by the time Butterfly came out.
(Friday 14 July 2023; 01:48)
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Emotionally stiff (102,998)
by Andrew from the UK
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Celine is an awesome vocalist. You know I love me some Celine, mate. But when she does her soft cooey emotional soft voice, I cringe. Perhaps it is the Britishness in me but it makes me very uncomfortable. And watching her do it on stage doubles the pain with her faux-emotional staring into the distance.
Whitney never got this nonsense. But listen to her records and find emotion in them. She bellows everything. Her contributions to The Bodyguard sountrack are obnoxious bellowing. Where was the criticism of Whitney bellowing IWALY? She shouts the whole bloody thing. And Run To You. And I Have Nothing. There's no emotion in these songs at all.
Mariah, no cringey over-emoting and no over-shouting.
(Wednesday 12 July 2023; 00:28)
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by Lady B from USA
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Hope you feel better soon, Robert. Sending you good vibes.
Like I said, Mariah seems to be really focused on spending time with her family, which is wonderful to see. Wishing her the best.
(Thursday 13 July 2023; 19:17)
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by Bobby A from United States
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MC is looking great like the early months of the E=MC2 era. I am glad that she is focusing on herself and her children. I am trying to get that point in my life and stop worrying about my family disowning me and people not liking me.
(Thursday 13 July 2023; 11:43)
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Languishing (103,008)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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I love them too.  Pure Mariah, the lyrics and melodies. Heartbreaking songs.
(Thursday 13 July 2023; 13:25)
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Languishing (103,003)
by Jamie from UK
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I love [Portrait]. Very [Languishing] and Looking In
(Thursday 13 July 2023; 08:31)
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by Bobby A from United States
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Thank you, Jamie. I have been listening to a K-Love radio station since I moved back to Texas. Lauren Diagle's You Say and Natalie Grant's and Cory Asbury's You Will Be Found have helped me.
(Thursday 13 July 2023; 12:36)
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by Jamie from UK
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Sorry to hear about your situation. Just focus on you, your feelings matter.
(Thursday 13 July 2023; 12:10)
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by Jamie from UK
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Sorry to hear about your situation. Just focus on you, your feelings matter.
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by Bobby A from United States
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MC is looking great like the early months of the E=MC2 era. I am glad that she is focusing on herself and her children. I am trying to get that point in my life and stop worrying about my family disowning me and people not liking me.
(Thursday 13 July 2023; 11:43)
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by Bobby A from United States
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MC is looking great like the early months of the E=MC2 era. I am glad that she is focusing on herself and her children. I am trying to get that point in my life and stop worrying about my family disowning me and people not liking me.
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by Jamie from UK
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Wow Mariah is looking in great shape on her latest post, looks like she’s lost a ton of weight. Maybe something is coming soon after all.
(Thursday 13 July 2023; 07:49)
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Ray Dalton (103,004)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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We had him on our morning show today, what a great voice and friendly man. A "new" singer who can sing.  I know he was first a background singer, but that voice really must be heard alone. I hope there will be an album soon. Mariah should do a song with him. 
(Thursday 13 July 2023; 09:20)
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Languishing (103,003)
by Jamie from UK
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I love [Portrait]. Very [Languishing] and Looking In
(Thursday 13 July 2023; 08:31)
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Languishing (103,001)
by Bobby A from United States
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I just listened [to] Potrait. Could Potrait be MC's follow-up Languishing? They definitely sound similar in melody and theme.
(Wednesday 12 July 2023; 23:54)
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Wow Mariah is looking in great shape on her latest post, looks like she’s lost a ton of weight. Maybe something is coming soon after all.
(Thursday 13 July 2023; 07:49)
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Languishing (103,001)
by Bobby A from United States
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I just listened [to] Potrait. Could Potrait be MC's follow-up Languishing? They definitely sound similar in melody and theme.
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Languishing (103,000)
by Randy from USA
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Definitely in my top ten songs by her. As soon as I read your post, I started singing it and my eyes welled up. I'm going through some things. Sometimes I find myself singing it when I'm putting on airs. I wonder would you cry for me if you knew. This is what music is supposed to do. And now I understand why MC wants us to relate rather than tell us who a song is written about. Although I think it's safe to say Side Effects is about Tommy. 
(Wednesday 12 July 2023; 03:11)
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Languishing (103,000)
by Randy from USA
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Definitely in my top ten songs by her. As soon as I read your post, I started singing it and my eyes welled up. I'm going through some things. Sometimes I find myself singing it when I'm putting on airs. I wonder would you cry for me if you knew. This is what music is supposed to do. And now I understand why MC wants us to relate rather than tell us who a song is written about. Although I think it's safe to say Side Effects is about Tommy.
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Languishing (102,996)
by Andrew from the UK
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I always thought Mariah had somewhat diminished that power and poignancy of Languishing by calling it an interlude. I recall many others here many years ago feeling the same.
Maybe Mariah means (in one fell swoop with just one word) in a song about damage to your person caused by the emotional abuse you received from a lover long ago is not forever. That is to say: the misery must be seen as an interlude in your life. That it is not what makes your story. That it is only what interrupted it.
(Tuesday 11 July 2023; 22:19)
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