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Chart question (101,665) by Nikki from usa

What's interesting about that is all 3 hit the top for very different reasons. Fantasy hit because of a radio leak. Mariah mania was in full swing and people were crazy for new music from her. The leak was legit because they had to rush everything. The album is the same pic in black and white, sepia, and a close up crop of her face for the cover. They had to rush the music video and release. The song also covered multiple formats making it a shoo in.

OSD was massively promoted by the label because Boyz 2 Men had just switched to them and it was their first single with the label. A lot of tragedy had happened that year with a freak storm and a terrorist attack that killed a lot of people. The nation was in mourning and then Selena was murdered.

Mariah created buzz for Honey. She released the music video to late night MTV a month before officially debuting it. When she did, it made it to the top of the video charts before she released it to radio. By then, they were greedy for the song that caused such a commotion on music channels.
(Thursday 24 November 2022; 06:11)


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QOC (101,664) by Nikki from usa

It would be nice if people who talked actually had a clue what they were talking about. Trademarks are for products and goods, not censorship. Literally, nothing would change on how anyone used the phrase. None of these women's lives would've changed. Everything would continue as it always has. Mariah didn't "lose" anything, in fact, she generously stepped aside. The objection wasn't qualifying. All Mariah had to do was respond and the trademark was hers. She chose to remain quiet. After the 3 month period lapsed the case is closed. Mariah literally gave up a name for a merch line for no other reason than someone had a problem with it and she's painted as a villain while her quote unquote fans talk about checking her morals.

A trademark isn't a copyright. Some folks deserve some humble pie themselves. I find it interesting how many hear MC get dissed by ignorant haters and immediately take their side without question. Trademarks are for products only. It doesn't give her a "monopoly" on the holiday season. It's a product line. It doesn't change how anyone uses the expression. It only prevents others from selling other products under the phrase. It's not that deep or encompassing.

There is no current trademark on any of these things which gives Carey the right to use it. All she had to do was respond. She actually stepped aside and let the 3 month time limit lapse. She didn't "lose", there was no "battle", and she was denied for simply not bothering to respond. She let it go and she didn't have to. She's literally been called, "the Queen of Christmas" by every publication and it's uncle for the past decade. These ignorant stories do make her look bad and many of you pile on top. MC did something kind and you helped paint her as a villain.
(Thursday 24 November 2022; 05:27)


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Debut album (101,663) by Terna from Nigeria

I would rather prefer the other recordings that did not make the cut, we as fans are aware of ("Weakness of the Body", "Into The Light" etc. recall that tracklist that floated around in 2015?) in addition to a remastered version of the debut album. Her first album still remains one of her best and easily a top three personal favorite of mine.

(Wednesday 23 November 2022; 11:14)


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Angry elfs (101,662) by Lady B from USA

Want to meet up before?
(Wednesday 23 November 2022; 05:38)


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ABMB crossing 300m YT views (101,661) by jaker20 from US

Another certified classic smash for Miss Carey.

(Wednesday 23 November 2022; 03:30)

Angry elfs (101,660) by Knoellexo from United States

I will be at the show on the 16th.
(Tuesday 22 November 2022; 21:29)


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Angry elfs (101,659) by Bobby A from United States

This reminds me of how you feel Lady B. MC said we have so called haters and we give this positivity. Where is Cindi Berger now? She was really good at speaking for MC.
(Tuesday 22 November 2022; 13:45)


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Angry elfs (101,658) by Lady B from USA

Some of you are angry elves. Me? I'll be at the Macy Parade and her MSG show on the 16th watching her prosper and enjoying being a fan. Anyone want to meet up and keep it positive?
(Tuesday 22 November 2022; 04:57)

QOC (101,657) by Knoellexo from United States

And that's on period.
(Tuesday 22 November 2022; 03:46)


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QOC (101,656) by Chicago Lamb from USA

This is the business of showbiz. If you love Mariah then you want her to make an impact with every release, promo, merchandise, every opportunity. She signed up for it, and we signed up for it. So let's not start checking Mariah's "morals" in the name of entertainment. Here's to another #1 and a sold-out Christmas tour.

(Monday 21 November 2022; 14:27)


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QOC (101,655) by "MariahHater" from Hell

Making Christmas as a money hog. I get but please review thy morals. Everybody needs money but not to the extent of monetizing the season. Is AIWFCIY not enough earning for her? It's so sad that she keeps on running her mouth that she embodies the true spirit of Christmas but I guess it's a different spirit after all.
(Monday 21 November 2022; 07:52)


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Debut album (101,654) by Bobby A from United States

Critics say that MC's debut album is one of the most stunning and best debut albums ever. I would love for MC to release acapella versions and outtakes of the whole album to celebrate the 35th anniversary of its release.
(Sunday 20 November 2022; 22:52)

AIWFCIY (101,653) by Bobby A from United States

It has already started Edward. AIWFCIY has made it already to the iTunes Top 20 today. It is expected to make its debut on the Hot 100 next week. MC will be #1 earlier this year than last year. That is what I am predicting this year. It made it to number #1 the week of December 28th last year. If it does it again, this will be the 4th year.
(Saturday 19 November 2022; 23:47)


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AIWFCIY (101,652) by Edward from USA

I thought we were starting Christmas early this year. I haven't heard AIWFCIY playing anywhere here in NY. Hopefully we get another three weeks at #1.
(Saturday 19 November 2022; 17:12)

QOC (101,651) by Bill from the UK

It's actually more a super villain move than anything.
(Saturday 19 November 2022; 16:18)


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QOC (101,650) by Stacey from USA

This is getting beyond ridiculous. Now you took the words out of my mouth, lol.

(Friday 18 November 2022; 02:23)


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QOC (101,649) by Anonymous from United States

I don't understand why Mariah insists upon doing tacky stuff like this. It makes her look incredibly narcissistic, selfish, and vain. I wish she would just stick to the holiday music, performances, movies, books et cetera.
(Thursday 17 November 2022; 22:19)


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QOC (101,648) by Edward from USA

I hope she learns from Kenye and don't go that route.

(Thursday 17 November 2022; 21:03)


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QOC (101,647) by Matty from Vancouver Canada

Lol Edward.

(Thursday 17 November 2022; 20:14)


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QOC (101,646) by Edward from USA

There's nothing sarcastic about your post and you know it. You're backpedaling because you realized how ridiculous her attempt at monopolizing Christmas was. It's actually arrogant on her part to even think she could sequester Christmas in perpetuity. I hope she doesn't go for Hanukkah next year.
(Thursday 17 November 2022; 14:18)


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QOC (101,645) by Stacey from USA

Yes Mariah is the queen of Christmas. But it doesn't mean she owns the holiday so much so that others can't participate.

(Thursday 17 November 2022; 06:11)


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QOC (101,644) by MusicfanJ from Germany

Yes. I think it's okay when people call her "Queen of Christmas". But it's no brandmark. I love Christmas and Mariah's Christmas songs, but less is more. I don't need cookies and all the other stuff. I'm happy with the classic "MC album", MC II", the deluxe edition and The Star soundtrack.

(Wednesday 16 November 2022; 20:26)


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QOC (101,643) by Matty from Vancouver Canada

I wish there was a "I'm being sarcastic" font, on this forum. Some of you are way to serious for a forum that's meant to be fun. Just like Christmas is just meant to be fun.

Regardless of a silly trademark, MC is the QOC, we know that.
(Wednesday 16 November 2022; 19:59)


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QOC (101,642) by Lee from USA

I doubt that she wanted it in the first place. If she did, then she would have made the effort to get the trademark.
(Wednesday 16 November 2022; 19:48)


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QOC (101,641) by Edward from USA

You took the words out my mouth. It is in fact ridiculous to try to monopolize anything Christmas' related. It's good we have a legal system in place to avoid stuff like that.
(Wednesday 16 November 2022; 16:34)


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