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Re: Mariah separates with manager Melissa (97,233) (97,245) by Slipping Butterfly from United States Melissa hasn't been Mariah manager since February '20. She didn't split from Mariah, she split from Roc Nation. Mariah management team is still Roc Nation. (Friday 29 January 2021; 21:16)

Re: Emancipation EP's for #MC30 (97,234) (97,244) by Nick G from Germany The quality of the Your Girl remixes [is] awfull. The first one ends before [the] ending and the second one is [too] silcene [?]. (Friday 29 January 2021; 10:26)

TEOM appreciation post (97,243) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Can we take a moment to appreciate the force (I would write in all caps but Eric would despise that) that is TEOM. This era was everything. I'm not just talking about the amazing songs it gave us but what it symbolizes for Mariah. This album was truly an "emancipation" for her, and what a comeback. People had written her off, she was almost being turned into a legacy artist. And she comes rising like a Phoenix. Everything about this era was just so fabulous and powerful. The title, the powerful stance on the cover, the videos, the fire starter single that's ILT. "I came to have a party"- and she wasn't lying. The world was dancing to Mariah's tunes. She looked fierce, you could just tell she was feeling herself from her attitude. Such a contrast from "Charmbracelet" where she looked timid and shy. I'm trying to imagine the feeling she felt proving everyone who had written her off wrong. Every time I revisit that era be it through rewatching the videos or live performances or interviews, I just feel so proud of her all over again. Also huge shout out to the music videos, each and everyone single video was top notch, perfectly executed and still look fresh to this day. I'm so glad for TEOM, Mariah needed it, the lambs needed it. When Mariah sang "it's my, it's my night" she meant it. It was her time to shine, and that part always puts a smile on my face. (Friday 29 January 2021; 03:19)

Re: Emancipation EP's for #MC30 (97,234) (97,242) by Anonymous from UK Thanks for this. Yeah, it's such a shame any FLAB mixes haven't been included, but I'm grateful for the "Your Girl" remixes. Again, finding it odd that we're getting instrumentals this week, but didn't last (The One, for example). And I suspect that whoever's running MC30 this year isn't the same as last. It's just that bit sloppier and not as pulled together or polished as when it started. From much more glaring remix omissions, down to the fine details; dates, layouts, text. They had to go back and re edit/reorder the entries on Spotify last week. This week, UK Spotify is currently a mess of MC30 and TEOM singles. I trust it'll get sorted, but I miss the days when her promo was polished and on point. (Friday 29 January 2021; 02:19)

Re: Mariah's interaction with Shawn Mendes (97,237) (97,241) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines It was a cute and funny exchange, especially when you take into consideration that Shawn is just 7 years into his career. It also is Mariah's own way of asking "Who you calling old again?" Haha. Even Charlie Puth and Trevor Noah had to jump in. I guess Mariah knows Charlie as well, with him in the comments wanting to know which particular song/s Shawn was listening to and Mariah responding. (Friday 29 January 2021; 02:01)

Re: I don't care if Mariah gets another #1 record (97,229) (97,240) by Anonymous from UK I stated I don't believe (the article) and, considering you were using what was written to make a point, I welcomed you prove me wrong (i.e. - actual evidence, not a gossip column). You linked me back to the gossip column (as if I'd asked you *where* you'd read it), and did so with attitude, speaking on behalf of Eric (as if that's your place). People be trifling this week, and "I sure ain't the one". (Friday 29 January 2021; 02:00)

Re: I don't care if Mariah gets another #1 record (97,236) (97,239) by T from USA Not only Mariah. Corporate America cares too. It's a business. (Friday 29 January 2021; 00:30)

Re: Mariah’s interaction with Shawn Mendes (97,237) (97,238) by RibbonB from USA I saw that, a very cute exchange. (Thursday 28 January 2021; 22:49)

Mariah’s interaction with Shawn Mendes (97,237) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Mariah had a cute interaction with Shawn over social media. Shawn posted this mentioning Mariah in the caption and Mariah "liked" it and commented on it asking what song he's listening to, then she went on to post her own version which Shawn shared on his timeline. It's cute and Shawn is officially someone Mariah "knows" now. (Thursday 28 January 2021; 22:39)

Re: I don't care if Mariah gets another #1 record (97,235) (97,236) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter It wasn't directed at you, to be honest it was a general statement because every now and then there are people who'll fight tooth and nails saying Mariah doesn't care about the charts, she has nothing to prove and that she's just releasing songs for fun, when in truth she probably does care about it more than we do. She craves that validation. (Thursday 28 January 2021; 22:36)

Re: I don't care if Mariah gets another #1 record (97,231) (97,235) by Leo from LAMBville Just to clarify. I never said I didn't think Mariah cares about getting another #1. She lives for that, it's basically her entire career. I just personally am not going to base everything off of her obtaining another #1. My personal favs have always been the album cuts anyway. (Thursday 28 January 2021; 20:26)

Emancipation EP's for #MC30 (97,234) by cBerr from Canada While this can't be 100% confirmed as I don't think they have been officially released yet anywhere (even in Australia as per time zones), but the "reported" EPs for the Emancipation era are bleak. The biggest and most glaring omission is the lack of anything for "Fly Like A Bird" - I can't even know where to start with this disappointment! Tracy Young, Maurice Joshua, David Harness. Could have been an epic remix package as Tracy and Maurice are known for multiple club cuts, edits and/or dubs. Secondly, the omission of the Moran & Rigg mixes {Radio, Club & Mixshow) to "We Belong Together" is just as disappointing. I had heard lossy MP3 versions and was very impressed. No SugarDip remixes to "Say Something". SMH I guess we're supposed to be happy it's made up for with two rapper features on "Your Girl". For which she uses the FLAB cover photo. Way to troll us. Thanks so much. (Thursday 28 January 2021; 19:06)

Mariah separates with manager Melissa (97,233) by T from USA I hope she doesn't try to manager herself again. It takes an army to create success. Keep her way from JD too. (Thursday 28 January 2021; 18:55)

Re: I don't care if Mariah gets another #1 record (97,229) (97,232) by Leo from LAMBville RJJ12, obviously Mariah wants to be a financial success with whatever label she is on as it leads to more money for her however the details of her deal were never disclosed so she may never even had taken an advance and wouldn't have any monies owed to the label, she may have negotiated a higher percentage paid to her on any profit. The money (from financiers) put up for the production/promotion of a product would be the only profit/loss, so unless something gets some organic movement the label will not feed a promotional budget. Mariah went on the 'Caution Tour' in support of the album as it was the only way it would have received additional press. Whenever Mariah has ever released a new project that is when you see the awards coming out like Artist of the Decade, Billboard Icon Award and so forth as it is just another thing to get the mainstream media to write about her current project. I do not see Mariah personally funding a marketing campaign, her money maker is her royalties from her catalog and any partnerships she makes, as in AppleTV+, Walkers Crisps, Hostel etc. (of course Christmas). Caution in retrospect didn't cost nearly as much as one may think; ODB was paid 15k for his rap on the Fantasy remix (you can google it), Collaborators are getting (depending who) on average 40k-100k per track in addition to any writing royalties. Mariah even spoke in the Quest podcast about how recording has changed so much and most of the time may not even be in the same country with a collaborator. I agree Mariah does better with a large promotional budget but were DOA with expecting her to fund it. Mariah like it or not is a legacy artist and her contract would be nothing like the ones with Def Jam, Columbia (1990) or EMI, the most were going to see is social media ads (like we did with TMOMC) and Spotify launch ads in Times Square; don't forget the occasional Empire State Building light show. If I win a huge lottery jackpot I may just fund a promotional campaign myself. Ha ha! (Thursday 28 January 2021; 17:39)

Re: I don't care if Mariah gets another #1 record (97,229) (97,231) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter Honestly people who think Mariah doesn't care for charts and numbers are people who really don't know Mariah at all. She's always talking about her #1's and her accomplishments (and yes she deserves it, she has the right to brag, she accomplished it on her own, even sometimes against all odds). If people think Mariah doesn't want another #1, look no further than her own actions. Every time a single underperforms in the recent years (pre-caution) it was dubbed a "teaser" and not the main lead (case in point "Triumphant") and then she released another song to see if that would perform better. I don't blame her, she's used to be the queen of Billboard so obviously she likes seeing her name next to #1. But you need the budget and the promo push for that, and the only two ways to do it is self invest or get a collaboration which gets a budget. And like RJ112 said, she's on a label, it's a business contract, she will want her to churn out more money than they invest on her. If they see only her Christmas ventures are being profitable, they'll just invest in that and not bother with pushing new releases. (Thursday 28 January 2021; 17:17)

MC30 TEOM remixes (97,230) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter I'm excited that according to the list not are we getting all the remixes of the main singles (including all the re-sung ILT remixes and the SIO remix with Jay-Z) we're also getting the two "You're Girl" remixes and "Secret Love" and "Sprung" is also being added. Although to be honest I don't really care much for the last two songs. From the platinum version my favorite is "So Lonely" which is pure fire. But it's always nice to have her whole discography available for worldwide listeners, and "Secret Love" and "Sprung" were just Japan and UK exclusives if I'm not mistaken. (Thursday 28 January 2021; 17:08)

Re: I don't care if Mariah gets another #1 record (97,227) (97,229) by 123 from USA You asked and I provided the source which was an article in this site. It's still irrelevant to the topic at hand. As long as Mariah continues to sign record deals she must obtain success = revenue for the advance she is given and then some so that she isn't in debt going into the next project depending on how many albums she signed for. The whole Mariah has nothing to prove to the record company is not a factual statement. Mariah even said herself when she criticized the marketing of Caution. My fans don't want instant grats, they want to see the record do well. Or are you now going to say Mariah isn't a credible source (listen to the Questlove podcast interview). Mariah has only complained about the marketing of her projects when they fail, example: Glitter, Charmbracelet, and Caution or pretends they don't exist MIAM. If the record company won't give her the budget, she should use her own funds to make the project take off and then renegotiate her deal to be compensated for her financial contribution. (Thursday 28 January 2021; 16:45)

How would you? (97,228) by Leo from LAMBville Just for fun. If Mariah was to receive a prestigious Achievement Award and you were selected to present it and allowed to write your own dialog what would you say to introduce her? (Thursday 28 January 2021; 15:31)

Re: I don't care if Mariah gets another #1 record (97,225) (97,227) by Anonymous from UK I hate to break it to you, but Canoe isn't an official source. (Thursday 28 January 2021; 15:28)

TMOMC sales figures? (97,226) by Leo from LAMBville Can someone explain where they come up with the idea the Memoir sold 800k? The only place I ever seen that come from was a twitter screen shot of a random person and the number seems to have floated around the websites/groups etc. I believe if it truly sold nearly a million copies it wouldn't have fallen off of the NYT best seller top list so quickly. According to Nielsen BookScan the Memoir sold 62,557 copies in the first 3 weeks and less than 7000 in the United Kingdom. It is my opinion that the numbers were hugely exaggerated even if you count audible it would have had to be over 700k purchases (not trial subscriptions), and from remembering conversations in the biggest Mariah Carey fan Facebook group everyone was signing up for the trial on audible. The memoir is deeply discounted in stores and right now on amazon 13 dollars and change. Anyone have any thoughts or facts on the sales numbers? I personally loved the book it wasn't what I was fully expecting however it was a good read and an even better listening experience. (Thursday 28 January 2021; 15:23)

Re: I don't care if Mariah gets another #1 record (97,222) (97,225) by 123 from USA The article was posted here by the webmaster. He's going to direct you to the news section as it's one of his pet peeves to post articles he has already posted in the news section. I was under the same impression until I read the article, so who know for sure. But my original point still stands, if you are under contract, you must make the company revenue or pay back your advance. Mariah can't tell Epic, I'm not paying you back a dime because I already made you billions of dollars and I have nothing else to prove. (Thursday 28 January 2021; 03:38)

Mariah, a flop? (97,224) by We are lambily from USA I don't know why certain people on this board like to pretend that Mariah hasn't garnered any success over the past years. - She sold 6+ million units in the past year alone. - Elusive and Caution era sold combined over 15+ million units. - She just passed Katy Perry as the 5th most streamed female artist on Pandora of all time, she is in top 20 most streamed female artists on Apple Music and overall one of the most streamed artists who debuted before 2000s. - She was the 20th most streamed female artist on all platforms in 2020 with 800+ millions streams. Never forget that she also sold over 200+ million actual records while her streaming is better than most of the main pop girls lol. - Her book sold almost 800k copies in the first two weeks, her special was one of Apple TV most successful projects and they already want her back, with unlimited budget. That's crazy. I could literally go on and on, The business that is Mariah Carey has never flourished more. I'm grateful for everything and hopeful we haven't seen the best of Mariah Carey yet. (Thursday 28 January 2021; 00:08)

Re: I don't care if Mariah gets another #1 record (97,221) (97,223) by T from USA This was the best breakdown I've read here in a long while. Everything is business and nobody knows this better than Mariah. It's why she returned to Sony, because LA Reid was in charge (a known spender). Look into Kenn and Nancy Berry. They ran EMI Virgin records when Mariah was signed. They signed her to that mega contract. They were also known to spend huge on marketing their acts (see Rolling Stones, Janet and Spice Girls who they signed). Mariah knew this that's why she went with them over other suitors. They both lost there big time jobs a month after Glitter was released. Mariah's whole career she needed two things. The right guidance and the right promotional budget. With those two things she is unstoppable and quite supernatural in her accomplishments. I don't know much about Epics head Sylvia Rhone but if Caution was any indication, Mariah is in big trouble. (Wednesday 27 January 2021; 22:50)

Re: I don't care if Mariah gets another #1 record (97,217) (97,222) by Anonymous from UK I know what a strain it is being that intelligent. How does one cope with such god given gifts? You're wasted here, clearly. But really, I appreciate your response. I say nothing out of hatred, and genuinely see the you behind the MoS facade, as frosted as it may be, so ask that you do sincerely consider my words. Your mind is excellent, Andrew. It'd be nice if we could all enjoy it. Re your next post about Mariah going away and working on new stuff, I couldn't agree more. Whilst I personally revel in the RnB, and actually crave a deeper dive into it, it's clear that she's metaphorically stuck in a few aspects of her career/flow and, no matter what genre, could only benefit with some fresher input and a dusting off. Unfortunately, I think it also requires a shift in psychology, and I'm not 100% she's there yet. I've faith though. I agree that momentum is what she needs right now, but the headspace to create the third magnum opus I know she's capable of requires a bit more time. Still, I'd eat up some party tracks in the meantime. RJJ2: I don't believe Mariah put any of her own money into the Apple special. The richest company in the world, making an artist pay out her own pocket? I doubt it. In fact, she herself spoke about the benefits of working with a company like Apple for the creative and budget possibilities it bought. But I welcome you to prove me wrong. (Wednesday 27 January 2021; 22:39)

Re: I don't care if Mariah gets another #1 record (97,220) (97,221) by 123 from USA This has nothing to do with "Mariah has nothing else to prove". You do realize that Mariah is still under contract. Having success and creating enough revenue for the record company to recoup cost for producers, marketing, writers, videos, and the initial advance that an artist gets prior to the release of an album to live off of (an advance is a loan with the assumption that the record company is going to make that money back and then some). Caution was a rude awakening for Mariah. She did not get the advance she is used to. Marketing was limited, there was only 10 tracks, and the videos were very budget conscious. The most alarming things about the last era was that both singles (spaced 4 months apart which is death to any project) were only sent to two minor radio formats. As a legacy artist, Mariah has to be played on all major formats in order to obtain success. She had no real radio budget and the label wouldn't pay for Cardi yet JLo got her on a failed single while on the same label. Without a radio budget and a hot feature all future projects are DOA. When signed to a major, if you don't make them money, you get dropped and/or if you are lucky enough to get another deal, it will be based on the success of the last project and we all know where that will land her. Had she not had her Christmas success she would probably still be in debt with the label for the Caution era if the tour wasn't part of her contract to where the label gets a chunk of the earnings. They will only re-sign her to release 100 more versions of compilations of her greatest hits. You won't be hearing more new music from her. I didn't think she cared either until she complained about the marketing and execution of Caution. And when has Mariah not included a hot feature of current chart toppers. B2M in 95, Jay Z in 99, Jay S and Camron in 2002 (which failed), Nelly, Snoop and Twista in 05. I could go on. I read in an article that she invested 4 million into her Apple special. She needs to do the same for her future projects and pay hot producers and major radio formats. She needs to call radio station heads and set up deals where they will play her next single with a hot artist in exchange for exclusive interviews, contests, and concerts. When you are signed, you have to make the label money. Mariah is not immune to this. She needs to put in the work like a new artist and use her own finances to get her projects off the ground. Gone are the days where she had label heads who were throwing money into her projects to ensure success (Tommy, LA Ried). She needs a project full of uptempos with some chart titans with great songs. She doesn't even need a lot of features. Drake and Ariana would be enough. Ballads and mid tempo records don't sell especially for aging artists. Why not do something different and make an album full of up tempo records with a mixture of genres, pop, hip hop, r&b, dance etc. Her discography and future endeavors sorely need it. (Wednesday 27 January 2021; 21:17)

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