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Re: How do I listen to The Rarities? (95,898) (95,899)
by Lafa from Sweden
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Do I need a VPN to access them? I can't find anything from The Rarities that has premiered. Out Here On My Own is the latest song up.
(Thursday 1 October 2020; 21:34)
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Re: How do I listen to The Rarities? (95,895) (95,898)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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The individual tracks have just been uploaded on YouTube on Mariah's official channel.
(Thursday 1 October 2020; 20:38)
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The Rarities thoughts (95,897)
by this_is_qhm from the Philippines
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I don't wanna go all shoulda woulda coulda but really, it's almost alarming how many of these recently unearthed material could have made the cut in the albums that were released during the time they were recorded.
Here We Go Around Again is fun and buoyant but would sound more dated even alongside anything on the debut album.
It's quite obvious why Can You Hear Me didn't make the final tracklist.
I've always felt like Music Box was a little too mellow, and so All I Live For could have easily bumped off Just To Hold You Once Again.
One Night is much more soulful than Long Ago.
The Firecracker version of Loverboy is messier than I would have imagined, but the vocals are better and the chorus has a catchier bounce to it than the one on the official version. This original version feels more like something that Mariah would do.
I Pray is just such an undeniable Mariah tune. How did this not make it into the TEOM re-release? Is it because of token gospel song quota Mariah seems to have implemented in pretty much all of her albums?
Apparently, Kick Rocks is Cool On You. Love the sass and attitude on this one. Still think it would could have made E=MC2 even more festive.
So something as good and jazzy as Mesmerized was left on the cutting floor in favor of a questionable Betcha Gon' Know "remix" on the deluxe version of MIAMTEC? Okay.
It's quite nice that Mariah chose Lullaby Of Birdland to be the sole live moment on the disc. I would have thought that being the perfectionist she is, she'd go and record a studio version of this instead but hey, this is actually good.
The only reason Close My Eyes was re-done for this album seems to be to tie into the memoir. It's a nice enough version.
Of all or Mariah's compilations, this is the one I enjoyed the most. Disc 2 is epic as well - no surprises there. Glad to have all these songs officially in one neat set.
I'm just really thankful that we're all so spoiled during this crazy year. This has been her best project rollout since 2005 and it happened in the middle of a pandemic. Thank you, Mariah, for giving us lambs something to help us get through these unprecedented times.
(Thursday 1 October 2020; 20:37)
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BBMAS award (95,896)
by ksquarred from paris
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Hey there, Mariah has asked for the lambily's help on twitter. Her tweet reads: "OK Lambs, we need a plan. Who's distracting Taylor's fans and who's in charge of Harry's? I've got Lil Nas X and Luke covered with a new Old Town Road remix. Vote now."
Here is the link to vote for her to win the award. I voted with my many many facebook accounts. It would be an amazing end to this great year (great Mariah-wise).
(Thursday 1 October 2020; 20:32)
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How do I listen to The Rarities? (95,895)
by Lafa from Sweden
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So how do I listen to the album (The Rarities)? How come some has heard when it's not up on Spotify? More than me might wanna know.
(Thursday 1 October 2020; 20:02)
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Re: Promo / Mariah's biopic (95,890) (95,894)
by 123 from USA
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So Mariah's team has been doing a great job with the roll out and promo. They sent the book to celebs including Bebe Rexa and Lee Daniels. Lee teases that Mariah is getting a movie. Sounds like he wants to be on the helm of that project. I wonder if this will be a mini series or go to the big screen?
(Thursday 1 October 2020; 17:41)
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Re: The Rarities (95,892) (95,893)
by Nick G from Germany
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I am in with Loverboy again. It's so much better. The [beginning] and end reminds me [of] Fantasy. I also love "Here we go again" and "Mesmerized". But my fav is "Out here on my own". It's a heartbreaking song. Together with the new and old Loverboy it makes the Glitter OST [perfect].
(Thursday 1 October 2020; 16:37)
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Re: The Rarities (95,886) (95,892)
by Pedro from Brazil
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I'm listening to the album right now. The highlights of the album are "Can you hear me", "One Night" and "Mesmerized". The first track, "Here we go around again", is good too, it's great fun, it has great vocals. I can't understand why "Can you hear me" was not included on Emotions, I'm still in awe. I don't think the Firecracker version of "Loverboy" is better, I thought it was a bit of a mess, but there we go, just my opinion. "Mesmerized" has that retro vibe she was into during the elusive chanteuse era. It will certainly be a fan favorite along with "One Night". I'm impressed.
(Thursday 1 October 2020; 15:28)
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Butterfly (95,891)
by Edward from USA
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Oh wow, now it all makes sense. I can't wait to finish with the audiobook to listen to Butterfly with a new found appreciation for it. I can't believe Mariah went to my country for a express divorce from Tommy. Lol.
(Thursday 1 October 2020; 15:25)
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Madonna's biopic (95,890)
by Dennis from Miami, FL
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Madonna is currently working on her biopic. Looks like she is doing the same thing as Mariah for her promo. She is releasing EPs, Maxi-singles, HQ videos. There was even a demo tape teaser. I have finished the audio book. Now I wonder if Mariah's biopic is being negotiated. Definitely MC has plans to show her story on the big screen.
(Thursday 1 October 2020; 14:08)
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Squeal (95,889)
by Bill from the UK
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So this tweet has some pictures of the booklet for The Rarities. It looks like it will be containing the lyrics and an italicized paragraph about each song just as I had hoped. Mariah I love you so much.
(Thursday 1 October 2020; 13:43)
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Re: TMOMC spoilers (95,884) (95,888)
by Norman from USA
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Bill, your enthusiasm is giving me life. The audiobook truly is something else. What a week to be a lamb. 
(Thursday 1 October 2020; 13:21)
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Re: Wayward Child (95,879) (95,887)
by Mutton Dressed as Lamb from UK
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It would be easy for me to say that I did know how much you loved MC, but I genuinely didn't... until now. It is easy for things to be lost in translation via a message board.
I knew the memoir would be good, but I didn't realise how good it would be. Listening to the audiobook was something else. It was an experience. When you spoke about how "I felt like I was a voyeur and Mariah should not have had to reveal these personal things. I felt it unfair she has had to explain the source of her pain." I felt that. I really felt that.
I've never mentioned this before, but yes I do work in Mental Health (lol). Hearing her tell her truths about her triumphs and traumas, made me reflect on the many people I have known in my personal and professional life. So many people just want to be seen and heard. Mental Health is fundamentally important to a well balanced life and this memoir put many of my experiences and those of my patients in to a context I hadn't considered before.
It is easy to tear people down and assume things, judging the book by it's cover, and for that I apologise to you. I have really enjoyed the summer and the memoir has been a gift that I will treasure. I hope you are well and believe me when I say, you aren't alone in your tears.
Bright blessings.
(Thursday 1 October 2020; 12:54)
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The Rarities (95,886)
by Nick G from Germany
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Has anyone already listened to the new album?
(Thursday 1 October 2020; 11:33)
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Re: Is there an award for audiobooks? (95,875) (95,885)
by Dennis from Miami, FL
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There is Grammy award for best spoken word album. Michelle Obama received the award for her memoir Becoming.
(Thursday 1 October 2020; 11:33)
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TMOMC spoilers (95,884)
by Bill from the UK
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When is an acceptable time for us all to start talking about the content of the memoir? I'm so desperate to do so but I don't want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't got through it yet.
I can't believe The Rarities is out tomorrow. Here We Go Around Again, Can You Hear Me, Loverboy Firecracker Version, an unused 1993 Carey/Afanasieff composition (All I Live For). A Daydream outtake (One Night). Is this really happening?
This week has been too much. I need a cold compress.
(Thursday 1 October 2020; 11:31)
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Re: Glitter (95,880) (95,883)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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I have to wait too. Amazon will send it on Thursday (because of our holiday on 3rd). It's really hard to wait while reading all your thoughts about the memoir. I'm so super excited. To think of the "new" album is almost too much. Haha. But I'm so ready to hear it.
(Thursday 1 October 2020; 11:27)
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Tokyo Dome Live on Friday (95,882)
by enwar00 from usa
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So the concert is going to stream on YouTube on Friday. I'm excited and def will be watching since the Blu Ray is only getting released in Japan from what I've read. Wanted to share in case anyone is interested and hasn't seen.
(Thursday 1 October 2020; 04:22)
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Her voice (95,881)
by Jono from USA
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Much has already been said about the memoir, but I just want to reiterate what a gift Mariah has. Imagine having those kinds of vocals, along with that kind of speaking voice. If she wasn't a singer, she would have easily made it in the voice over industry. Like others on here, I do highly recommend the audible version and following along to the book. Hearing it come from Mariah herself is such a treat.
(Thursday 1 October 2020; 03:33)
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Glitter (95,880)
by enwar00 from usa
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While I wait until Tuesday for Amazon to deliver the book at least they came through and delivered my Glitter Blu Ray quickly. Tonight's feature presentation is about to start.
(Thursday 1 October 2020; 01:39)
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Re: Wayward Child (95,862) (95,879)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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Someone wise just accurately ripped Rolling Stone Magazine and possibly with intent to making clear that their decision making process unreliable. (He's a pretty targeted, effectual and enjoyable writer, here.) Go with me, it is relevant.
Mariah herself is happy that Caution was well-received by critics, for example. Her truth; that's fine. But I wonder why.
A detractor's approval means something - in perspective. It is nice. But I am wary of getting overexcited by compliments because the person who made them has historically been critical.
In the same way I want to shake Mariah and say "These [censored] ripped apart your equally-as-good - if not better - work, because it wasn't fashionable to like you back then." I want to say "Ignore these tits as the criticism was not based upon truth." I will take your nicety with appreciation but also a pinch of salt. As in: you couldn't tell how much I love Mariah in all I have written in 7 years? Bullshit, surely. Even people who hate me here would probably not deny that I adore her. And they don't work in mental health lol I forget - do you? You've never mentioned.
I do appreciate the olive branch, however. And Eddie may tell you I wouldn't bother with a pisstaking essay if I didn't actually mean well. Maybe Housepartt with Bobby-A and I Friday. It may help ensure he has both hands visible on the desk.
I hope you are enjoying the memoir. I hope you enjoy Firecracker (seriously, I cannot think about anything else, now).
Bitches be emulating me daily.
(Thursday 1 October 2020; 01:35)
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Re: Wayward Child (95,865) (95,878)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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Bobby-A, I am tempted to say yes. Lets videocall. But Houseparty. Not Zoom. It would probably need to be around 11pm for me and 6pm for you, if you are United States East Coast? However:
I will not take a bubblebath, I will not watch you crazy laugh, I will not vidcall in the nude, And you should be wearing pants, too, dude. I am a Mariah Carey fan I love MC, Andrew I am.
(Thursday 1 October 2020; 01:14)
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Re: I am stunned (95,869) (95,877)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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William, I am really pleased you liked it. I was worried, listening to it, that you would not. It isn't the song direction many and you had hoped for. But it is rather wonderful how it is done.
Gonna need the notes on print to audible differences. I'd actually like the spreadsheet and any other PDF'd spreadsheet you have made. andrewjamesgold@gmail.com
If not, not to worry. I am glad you got from it what you needed.
(Thursday 1 October 2020; 01:07)
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Re: Roger Friedman (95,867) (95,876)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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Yours is perhaps the most important message here.
Thie is not intended to be an autobio with receipts as some numpty just inferred here. It is a memoir. It is a story about a development of a person that Mariah wants to tell about her life.
It is Mariah's perspective on her story.
I have finished Sing Sing.
I get why people are dissatisfied. I get it. I wince often. This is not self-reflection for Mariah to heal herself. This isn't Mariah trying to figure out her own mistakes. This is Mariah saying "This is how I felt, people behaved this way, and I was the one that wrote very valuable pieces of music and it was me people worshipped and thanked."
Knowing me, after all I have posted in 7 years, you think I might have a problem with that. But I don't.
They sold her out, dutifully. Her family sold her out. Fellow women, like Lopez, sold her out. I do not begrudge Mariah the book she has written. I wish her response to Oprah had been:
"Because [censored] them. That's why."
And, Eric, if you made that word "smurf", you are doing injustice to fair intent of comment. I have asterixed it but if you must alter please just put "[censored]". We are all adults here. Except for we_are_lambily. But she is way past lights-out.
I have no doubt that people whom I believe have crossed and cheated me believe or make pretence that I have done wrong (and I am owed, myself, awe and respect and much money from people whom I consider lucky to have known me). So be it. My view of my interactions here don't seem to match with the opinions held herein, either.
But a nice man named Martyn Hakan Hett once defended me from a spurious attack here in his inimitable way of... being intelligent emotionally:
"This is his truth," he wrote, if I recall correctly. And the maturity of that open-natured heart stuck with me and I honestly try to remember it when, what I perceive to be untruths, which I find vulgar, confront me. Is it just perception?
The Meaning of Mariah Carey is Mariah from Mariah's perspective. It is not an autobiography. It is a story about one person's passion. And I love it.
There are many things I do not like about what I am hearing. Trust, lambs and fans, I could go hard on this.
But it is Mariah's truth. Even if her truth with hindsight is not completely accurate, my own truth about myself would not be. But you cross examine a witness to hear a lived experience.
Mariah wanted to emphasise *her* drive through turmoil, *her* work to get a record deal, *her* bravery against psychological bullying, *her* making hiphop mainstream due to her childhood, *her* justification in shunning people who she believed toxic. I like this. I like that Mariah is justifying why we owe her awe.
I do have issues with it. Maybe later, after The Rarities, I'll think of the glaring annoyances to record them here. (I should say as I write this the All That Glitters section is playing and I have serious issues already.) But, honestly, right now, I am with Mariah and thrilled with her telling me her story. I can't help telling Alexa or Spotify to play songs when she sings. I am so thrown to my childhood. I was singing Beautiful Ones out loud at 2am. (Sorry, Randy lol.)
This is absolutely wonderful. I feel 14 again, consumed in awe. Awe for this spectacularly talented woman to whom I owe my life. I genuinely do. It is hard hearing how Mariah was sad when she made me happy.
Proctors Theatre was the sound I heard from the kitchen and left my mother mid-sentence to walk to the living room and stare at the TV and ask my brothers who this person was only to have both brothers themselves offer they couldn't believe it either. "This woman loves her music," said my eldest brother, Jonathan, during the AYNAF adlibs. Never forget it. It was he who lifted me up and held me the first time we saw Mariah sing Hero together.
I ruined that stolen VHS as I played it every day, always AYNAF before school. My brothers and I adored it. When Fantasy: MSG came out, I felt like I was cheating on Proctors Theatre. I would watch it after MSG out of guilt. (I would fake sickness to my mother and skip school to watch both VHS tapes - and once for Around The World: but I hated it.)
Why am I banging on like this is my own memoir? Because I hate Mariah for bookending the Proctor's Theatre concert with negativity. I hate her for it. That was an angel appearing to me. We were in awe. My life was saved.
I honestly would not have lived without Mariah and Hero, of course. I believed, when I was kid, that she was sent to make me live.
But I slept last night on Mariah's retelling of the Schnectady thabsgiving special. I know it off by heart. I know where she moves and when. I know the fake reshoot sections. I can do all hand and leg movements with my back to the screen (I showed my partner in 2003 and was met with "Oh my..."). This was my childhood.
But I woke up to realise and decide that my own truth, as Martyn called it, does not detract from Mariah's truth; and I am honoured to finally know the truth behind that concert. Mariah is flawed but not stupid. She knows that concert is pinacle in opening her artistry to new people. And she changed how we view it forever.
If Mariah needs me to know that she was desperately sad during it, I need to understand that my truth is not the right one. And appreciate that truths, even if from a bias perspective, are important.
I am watching Proctor's Theatre now rather than listen to All That Glitters, because I get to look into Mariah's eyes now and hear her thoughts. I get to appreciate that my brothers and my adoration of beautiful music, tone and physicality came at a price for the person who instilled it in us.
My brothers eventually took me to a Mariah Carey concert in London in 2001 (my father even driving us and being shamed when I pointed out he was singing along to Hero in the car - poor man, although I gave him Star Trek). We all went together 7 to 8 years after they stole that VHS and we fell in love with her. We didn't much like the Rainbow Tour. It wasn't good. But I hope Mariah went back to The Dorchester happy after it. And I hope she knew she was loved. And I cried when she appeared, my macho brothers and I danced like fools, and I cried once more at the end in total thanks for her being my saviour and companion in lonely times, and for the song that was the original mainstream "It Gets Better" message. I was picked up by a brother to hear that message, by a brother who understood why she was owed awe.
This is an awe certain reviewers would do well to consider first before taking cheap shots out of perceived historical offence.
I hope Mariah, for all of her faults, is [censored] happy.
Cheers for 2020.
(Thursday 1 October 2020; 00:52)
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Is there an award for audiobooks? (95,875)
by bliss! from Brazil
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I started listening to the audiobook this morning. This is my first experience with books in this format and I'm loving it so far, I just can't get enough of her super soothing talking voice. I hope Mariah gets an awards for this.
My favorite moment so far is when Mariah discusses Henry, one of her mother's "better" boyfriends, the one with PTSD. The part where she says that she heard from somone that he screamed "She made it. She made it" the first time he heard "Vision of love" on the radio made me cry a bit.
"I hope you also made it, Henry." What a beautiful soul Mariah can be.
(Thursday 1 October 2020; 00:47)
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