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Mariah and Cardi Interview (97,462)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Do I smell a song collaboration in the making? At the very end Mariah asks Cardi if they can do a song together, and she says yes. Now I have to say I'm surprised Mariah did this interview especially since last time Mariah was vocal about wanting Cardi to be on the "A No No" remix and then Cardi declined it. And in Mariah's world I would have assumed that would put her in the "I don't know her" box haha. But I'm glad that Mariah still "knows" Cardi. And from what Cardi said, that she sometimes doesn't like meeting celebs she loves because she doesn't want to be hurt by them and have their image tarnished in her mind forever. So it could be that Cardi was quick to decline ANN because she's a Mariah fan. I'm undecided about Cardi. I like her because she's outspoken and confident and doesn't take shit but sometimes I also find her annoying. But I would be here for a song with MC and Cardi, something that is empowering to women.
(Tuesday 23 February 2021; 20:57)
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Re: Languishing Interlude (97,459) (97,461)
by Shezz from Pk
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After reading the memoir, it could easily be about her family. Allison or Morgan or even Pat or all three.
(Tuesday 23 February 2021; 18:06)
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Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,456) (97,460)
by Edward from USA
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I agree. I remember when she started hating "Hero" and all of a sudden the herd started going with her narrative, saying "Hero" was this and that. Then she convenientely started loving "Hero" again, and the herd did the same. "Almost Home" was a glimmer of hope at her recovering her voice since she sounded so good in it. The song is structured in a way that anybody could've been fooled she wrote it, and then she said she didn't like it either. Guess what happened? the herd once again followed through. I actually enjoyed Caution a lot, but to rank it in her top 7 albums is beyond believe to me. But then again, that's me. At this point, I do really want to hear Mariah belt again, even if it's only in the studio on tracks she won't ever sing live. She's been doing that for a long time anyway.
(Tuesday 23 February 2021; 18:02)
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Re: Languishing Interlude (97,451) (97,459)
by T from USA
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The can't breathe imagery sure fits the Tommy theme but unless it was a song she started in the 1990's, I can't see where she was at in her life by 2009 to be going back singing a song about Tommy. I know she did in 2008, but that was more of an empowering song and a lot happened a year later as in marriage to a new husband. Why would she be wondering or needing Tommy's support in 2009?
(Tuesday 23 February 2021; 16:14)
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Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,442) (97,458)
by Chicago Lamb from USA
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If I did a list, Caution would be definitely top 10, maybe top 5. I still love it.
(Tuesday 23 February 2021; 13:52)
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All I Live For (97,457)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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Is the whistle note and last chorus really from 2020?
(Tuesday 23 February 2021; 10:14)
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Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,440) (97,456)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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It's m'lady to you, Australia. I accept your reasoning for not liking Music Box if it is a deeply held conviction. However, I sometimes get the feelings that lambs online spurt forth anything they think Mariah will agree with or which makes them look like a better lamb than others. As an example: Purposefully saying they don't like Music Box because it is the most commercially successful and/or because Mariah doesn't praise it or talk about it all that much. I am forced to agree with Jamie that Music Box is a fantastic album and am humoured to a smirk if not a grin when I remind myself that "cohesive body of work" is a favourite fan trope that could and would easily be applied to Music Box - but isn't, probably because it's just not cool to do so and/or Music Box needs no defending as it is one of the most successful albums of all time.
This general argument could be flipped on its head and equally apply to Caution. It is nowhere near as good as the rest of her records vocally or sonically but it slightly fares better in critical reception and is cited as such by Mariah. Thus, if someone, say... the webmaster... were to comment about how people who practically masturbated over the album upon its release weren't out supporting it, said people might start frantically posting lists with Caution either at the top or very near it. I can't help but think there is a lot of invading cynicism.
Music Box is undeniably brilliant. It is Mariah's most accessible album having mass appeal and songs of a sound that have stood the test of time. With the exception of GTFO and With You I don't think anyone will be talking about Caution in a few years. It's all rather a dull affair.
I think Mariah needs to move once again to a more accessible sound with a more crafted and simpler production. I feel like Mariah has spent the best part of two decades trying to prove how clever she is as a composer, with sample + cut and paste vocals + complicated vocal layers in the background + different melody for second verse + witty kitchen sink lyrics + octave jump screech at the end. She has proved that she can do that but I think she should do something else now.
I've been listening to Madonna's 80s and 90's ballads this week as I caught Live To Tell on the radio and also some of Madonna's newer stuff like Girl Gone Wild. I think one of the reasons that Madonna is successful is the simplicity of a lot of her songs. Even Ray of Light isn't that overly complicated.
I think Mariah is too stuck in her ways trying to win the respect of her peers to change but I am certain not many people want to buy what she is selling, anymore. But there are certainly a few enablers who will say it's the best thing ever for as long as Mariah does.
(Tuesday 23 February 2021; 09:50)
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Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,441) (97,455)
by Shezz from Pk
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As with everyone, this could change tomorrow. Just what I'm feeling these days based on what I've heard in the last few months:
1.Butterfly 2.Daydream 3.E=mc2 4.TEOM 5.Emotions 6.Musicbox 7.Caution 8.Glitter 9.MC 10.Rainbow 11.MIMATEC 12.Memoirs 13.Charmbracelet (I do love this album very much. Ugh this is tough.)
(Tuesday 23 February 2021; 07:58)
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Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,421) (97,454)
by Lainsky from Philippines
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I tried and I failed lol! I could not resist sharing my own list as if anyone cares. Like Bill, I love rankings that's why I was obsessed with Billboard Charts, radio countdowns, and Mariah's single. Well, let me be happy just seeing it here. As mentioned in my previous post, Butterfly will always be on top. Hey! It's her magnum opus and kind of like her signature/identity album. 1. Butterfly 2. Daydream 3. Music Box 4. The Emancipation of Mimi 5. Glitter 6. Mariah Carey 7. Caution 8. E=MC2 9. Rainbow 10. Emotions 11. Memoirs of An Imperfect Angel 12. Charmbracelet 13. Me I Am Mariah The Elusive Chanteuse Similar to others, I am leaving out the two holiday collections and the compilation albums. A lot of lambs like MIAMTEC, especially the younger and later fans of her. As a 90's baby, I honestly cannot relate much to this album. It's the reason why it is at bottom. Caution and MOAIA are her most cohesive works. The former suffer from her fading popularity and the latter suffer from wrong singles released like E=MC2.
(Tuesday 23 February 2021; 04:06)
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Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,433) (97,453)
by Stacey from USA
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Close but no cigar, lol.
(Tuesday 23 February 2021; 03:14)
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Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,450) (97,452)
by Justin from United States
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1. Butterfly 2. The Emancipation of Mimi 3. Daydream 4. Caution 5. E=MC2 6. MIAM 7. Mariah Carey 8. Glitter 9. Emotions 10. Rainbow 11. Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel 12. Music Box 13. Charmbracelet
Butterfly will always be my number one - if nothing else, for the songwriting and narration alone. Mariah really developed her craft here. Daydream follows for vocals and as a subtle lead into a more urban, adult sound.
I love Caution era. A total mood album. Thematically, so cohesive. Give me The Distance, and you can keep all of Memoirs.
And I love the E era party vibes. Love upbeat Mariah. I prefer her having fun versus waning over a lover on top of a slow arrangement.
Rainbow would be higher if asked years ago, but in my opinion, songs like X Girlfriend and How Much really haven't aged well. Also feels choppy. She clearly recorded it quickly and wanted out from the label.
Never really liked Charmbracelet - sorry. Love performances of Through the Rain but her diction is poor on the album and I feel like she kept reaching but never achieved a smash hook.
Now just realizing I'm partial to the newer part of her catalogue, though Music Box was one of my first cassettes ever.
(Tuesday 23 February 2021; 01:20)
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Languishing Interlude (97,451)
by Joe from United Kingdom
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This is one of my faves on MOAIA and I have always wondered who MC is singing it to. Obviously it's one of those personal songs she does hat that we all love. I'm thinking maybe it's Tommy?
(Monday 22 February 2021; 22:44)
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Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,421) (97,450)
by Jamie from UK
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1. Music Box 2. Emotions 3. Mariah Carey 4. Butterfly 5. Daydream 6. E=MC2 7. The Emancipation of Mimi 8. Caution 9. Rainbow 10. Me. I am Mariah 11. Memoirs of an imperfect angel 12. Charmbracelet 13. Glitter
Music Box will always be my number one. I love the ballads and the adult contemporary style of the album. Emotions I love the soulful ness of that album.
(Monday 22 February 2021; 22:10)
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Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,421) (97,449)
by Tijl from Belgium
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1. Butterfly 2. Emancipation 3. Memoirs 4. Caution 5. Miamtec 6. E=MC2 7. Glitter 8. Rainbow 9. Daydream 10. Merry Christmas 11. Emotions 12. Music Box 13. Mariah Carey 14. Rarities 15. Merry Christmas II You 16. Charmbracelet
(Monday 22 February 2021; 21:59)
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Re: Mariah: The Diva, The Drama (97,435) (97,448)
by Tijl from Belgium
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It was available on YouTube for a short while. It holds many inaccuracies and it is highly dramatised. That famous impersonator, Jessica something, plays MC. She does resemble Mariah, especially from certain angles but all in all it is a silly piece of tabloid journalism.
(Monday 22 February 2021; 21:52)
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My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,445) (97,447)
by John from USA
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1. Daydream 2. Butterfly 3. TEOM 4. Mariah Carey 5. Caution 6. Music Box 7. The Rarities 8. E=MC2 9. MOAIA 10. Emotions 11. Charmbracelet 12. Glitter 13. MIAMTEC 14. Rainbow
(Monday 22 February 2021; 21:47)
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My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,446)
by Will from England
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1. Caution 2. Memoirs 3. Butterfly 4. Charmbracelet 5. TEOM 6. Elusive 7. Daydream 8. Rainbow 9. Music Box 10. Mariah Carey 11. Emotions
(Monday 22 February 2021; 21:43)
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Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,429) (97,445)
by IheartMC from USA
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This was surely a hard list but here is my list and it changes with moods and times. Some albums such as Charmie has aged wonderfully.
1. Daydream 2. Butterfly 3. Emotions 4. TEOM 5. Music Box 6. Rarities 7. Charmbracelet 8. EMC2 9. Rainbow 10. Caution 11. Me I am Mariah 12. Glitter
(Monday 22 February 2021; 19:37)
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Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,434) (97,444)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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01. Daydream 02. Butterfly 03. Emotions 04. Music Box 05. Mariah Carey 06. Merry Chistmas 07. Glitter 08. E=MC2 09. The Rarities 10. The Emancipation of Mimi 11. Charmbracelet 12. Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel 13. Rainbow 14. MIAMTEC 15. Merry Christmas II You 16. Caution
(Monday 22 February 2021; 19:22)
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Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,442) (97,443)
by Tyler from United States
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Don't be too surprised. Not everyone who visits this board has had the chance to participate and not everyone will.
01. Butterfly 02. Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel 03. Daydream 04. Caution 05. E=MC2 06. Mariah Carey 07. The Emancipation of Mimi 08. The Rarities 09. Glitter 10. Music Box 11. Rainbow 12. Merry Christmas 13. Merry Christmas II You 14. Emotions 15. MIAMTEC 16. Charmbracelet
(Monday 22 February 2021; 19:00)
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Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,441) (97,442)
by Webmaster Eric from the Netherlands
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It surprises me that only one person listed Caution in their top 10 (at number 9), while everyone was lyrical when the album was released.
(Monday 22 February 2021; 15:18)
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Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,434) (97,441)
by The Real Deal from USA
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1. Emotions 2. Mariah Carey 3. Me. I Am Mariah. The Elusive Chanteuse 4. Butterfly 5. Charmbracelet 6. Music Box 7. E=MC2 8. The Emancipation Of Mimi 9. Daydream 10. Glitter 11. Caution 12. Rainbow 13. Memoirs Of An Imperfect Angel
(Monday 22 February 2021; 14:51)
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Re: My ranking of Mariah's albums (97,429) (97,440)
by Todd from Melbourne, Australia
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Alright lady, that'll do. Music Box and Daydream have always been a bit "meh" for me. On Music Box I like AYNAF, Dreamlover and Without You, and obviously our favourite Everything Fades Away. But the rest of the album all blends into one for me. Same with Daydream. Fantasy and Looking In are the only songs I'm crazy about. The "Open Arms / When I Saw You / I Am Free / Forever" ballad train all sounds the same. I say this like I dislike them, I don't. Even the MC songs that I don't love, I'm still very fond of. Except "I Don't". James Packer and Almira Gulch can keep that one. Now, are we cool? 
(Monday 22 February 2021; 12:31)
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Re: Get a grip (97,436) (97,439)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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Lol it's a piece of "rip-off". That prize for a book is hilarious. But yes, of course it's "art". Rihanna could spend the the earning for a a social thing. That would make sense.
(Monday 22 February 2021; 11:47)
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Honey live at Top of The Pops 1997 (97,438)
by Rashidi Rahim Rick from Malaysia
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I wonder why until now Mariah's team has not uploaded the official live performance of Honey at the Top Of The Pops in 1997. Almost all of Mariah's performances at that show in the 90's have been uploaded at Mariah's YouTube channel. To me, it was such a great performance and the only performance where Mase made an appearance. Mariah's voice and tone was almost identical to the album version.
(Monday 22 February 2021; 10:26)
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