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Re: Save The Day (95,146) (95,167) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines I still feel like it's the nature of her voice more than anything. It's likely more fragile and more susceptible to lifestyle choices and uncontrollable factors such as aging. Some people have voices that will naturally withstand those factors better (Barbra, Patti, Coko from SWV, etc.). She is not one of them. Deniece Williams is unfortunately being dragged by many Lambs for simply telling the truth. Mariah did not take care of her voice when it counted the most and even now that irreparable damage has been done she seems to continue not to. It's really concerning how much worse it's gonna sound 5 years from now. (Monday 24 August 2020; 07:20)

Re: Save The Day (95,159) (95,166) by Bobby A from United States I just wonder if STD was CLG, would we be so hard on MC. I personally did not like CLG when it was released as the second single after Emotions. It is not one of my favorite MC songs. There is something about the slow melody that makes me want CLG to end quickly. Yes, I know it is 10 times better than STD or Crapfinity. Maybe TMOMC and The Rarities will help reunite Walter A. and MC for her next album in 2021. Who could bring them together at the same table? Babyface or Bryan Tanaka? Hoping a miracle happens because of MC opening the vault this year. (Monday 24 August 2020; 04:01)

Re: Fourth of July (95,161) (95,165) by enwar00 from usa Oh yes, that song is magical. One of my all time faves. Such a sweet, sweet song. I miss a good Mariah bridge. And I'll wait for a day when I can feel what I used to feel when I used to listen to that song. I understand that may never come, but who knows. (Monday 24 August 2020; 03:29)

Re: The Rarities new vocals only (95,160) (95,164) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Ah, it wasnt thst deep. It just stirred a memory. (Monday 24 August 2020; 03:26)

ABMB (95,163) by enwar00 from usa I turned on the radio in the car for the first time in a long time this morning, and Always Be My Baby was on. It was a cute moment. I definitely feel it's her most enduring song besides AIWFCIY. (Monday 24 August 2020; 03:17)

Tokyo concert (95,162) by Bobby A from United States I am watching the concert now. I bought it on eBay a few years ago. The DVD manufacturer is Immortal. Does anyone else have it on DVD? Her voice is amazing on the DVD. Just imagine how the re-mastered CD and Blu-ray will sound. We are in for a special treat Lambs. (Monday 24 August 2020; 01:01)

Fourth of July (95,161) by Nicky from Jasmine's Sofa I think I'm still holding out, waiting to feel the magic from this song in a real life experience. Like since day one, the feels of this song were so tangible and just slightly less abstract than Underneath The Stars for me (btw I am still and will always be utterly in love with that song as well). Like... every single millisecond of FOJ captured the whole essence of that the story she was telling. Also, I literally see colors when I hear it. Ughhhhhh I want this exact magic irl lol (Monday 24 August 2020; 00:04)

Re: The Rarities new vocals only (95,152) (95,160) by Bobby A from United States Ooops. I forgot about that. You love fact checking me Andrew. Lol. (Sunday 23 August 2020; 23:15)

Re: Save The Day (95,146) (95,159) by Will from England And just to add to the point about her voice, I think she only re-sang it so high, was to match how she originally wrote it. If she sings in her lower to mid registers (giving me life etc.) I think she will sound great, and leave the breathy voice behind/use it less regularly. But yes, between GTFO (which was mostly that register) to STD re-recording, her voice had changed once again, but it is interesting to notice that the chorus and the verses are almost two different voices. Watching a video analysis recently (taking it with a pinch of salt naturally), the commentator noticed she is now more comfortable using her mid-voice rather than the higher, breathy whisper register. I think she could have taken more time to adapt the song to her current voice rather than match it to whatever draft version she had from all those years ago. (Sunday 23 August 2020; 22:54)

Re: Rarities partial tracklisting (95,127) (95,158) by Will from England I wonder if "Imperfect" will make the cut. (Sunday 23 August 2020; 22:15)

Re: Save The Day (95,146) (95,157) by Will from England Listening to the song, I get the feeling that it was mainly the chorus that they had down, and the verses were added later which is why it sounds a little disjointed, if that indeed was the case. I agree with the KMS sample being an afterthought, but maybe using the sample was the original intent to be a part of their failed previous attempt at a duet? Just depends on when exactly Mariah got the rights to use the song. (Sunday 23 August 2020; 22:13)

Save The Day (Remix) (95,156) by Ethan from United States How about having Lauryn Hill rap/sing a verse on it before/after the "La la la" part? I do hope the team already has that idea and it's in the works. (Sunday 23 August 2020; 21:28)

Re: The Rarities tracks (95,126) (95,155) by Bobby A from United States I am just putting this out there. What if we will have one more single to be released with a video reminisce of here early debut videos. Hopefully the rumoured track 15 Walter Afansieff collaboration "Anything Can Happen". And hopefully the Loris Holland rumoured "Christmas Glory" will be released as a Christmas single along with the live Tokyo AIWFCIY. Critics are going to give MC praises for the album because the tracks are pre-MOIA era and her voice was fabulous. (Sunday 23 August 2020; 21:13)

Save the Day is better than some say it is (95,154) by Aliya from Canada Personally, I love the song. I love the message the song gives, because this is a time when we need it most. I actually love the way the song is constructed, the chorus and everything. That being said, I understand why some people say that it sounds sort of unpolished. I guess that's why it is featured on The Rarities, rather than an an actual album. I like that she gave us something great, because I missed her putting out songs. I honestly enjoy the song. It's a grower. (Sunday 23 August 2020; 20:43)

Re: Save The Day (95,146) (95,153) by Andrew from the United Kingdom It is sad. I feel like the touring should stop, now. (Sunday 23 August 2020; 19:23)

Re: The Rarities new vocals only (95,137) (95,152) by Andrew from the United Kingdom She did Rainbow in 3 months if I recall. (Sunday 23 August 2020; 19:22)

Re: Save The Day (95,146) (95,151) by Musti from UK STD. I wish I could unread this. The song itself is alright. The verses are dull but the chorus and bridge are hot. Smart of her to use Killing Me Softly as a sample. That song never gets old and it's the only reason I could get into STD after the beat dropped. I agree that she had plenty of time and inspiration to come up with something better. This song is just another midtempo that could've literally been on any album she's released since TEOM. To be completely honest, I haven't gone back to it since listening to it for the first time on Friday. I love her voice in all its shapes. But her songwriting style has become very repetitive and I find that more concerning than anything else. Caution did have some great numbers but with her abilities and experience she could be putting out much better material. (Sunday 23 August 2020; 18:45)

Re: Save The Day (95,146) (95,150) by ADAM from USA I also feel STD is 2 separate songs. I'll start out with the positive comments. Mariah is a beast when it comes to spotting out the best parts of a song to sample. The chorus is fire and really ear candy. The worst parts of the song are her thin-whispery voice in-between. Her pronunciation is terrible and her voice is so fragile and mouse-like. I also fear her voice is deteriorating very fast and wonder what will be left in 5 years time. For such an old song in the vault, I felt she could have developed much better vocal delivery. If I had to guess what it was, I would presume it's her alcohol consumption that makes her voice in bad shape. It's interesting to watch old clips of her stating how smoke and alcohol makes her voice vulnerable and yet, it's those same voices that have consumed her and her voice now. I think she wasted a great Lauryn Hill sample TBH. I also don't like she has Lauryn Hill as a feature when it's a copy and paste sample and not a new recording. Very lazy and mis-telling. (Sunday 23 August 2020; 18:25)

Re: Save The Day (95,146) (95,149) by Bill from the UK The worst things for your vocal chords are smoking, especially marijuana, and alcohol. We know Mariah indulges in both, the latter somewhat excessively. According to Morgan, the split from Tommy is what started those vices, and that was when her voice noticeably changed. The only time it seemed to sound better from the decline was during MCIIY. Presumably she stopped, or certainly reduced, those recreational drugs when she was expecting the twins. (Sunday 23 August 2020; 17:41)

Re: The Rarities (JPN edition) (95,093) (95,148) by Bobby A from United States I have ordered my 2 copies from cdjapan.com for $66.00 each. (Sunday 23 August 2020; 16:12)

Mariah Carey illustrated compendium (95,147) by Greg from United States Hi lambs. I wanted to share my MC30 project, illustrating Mariah's iconic look through the past 30 years. I can't post images but you can check it out here if interested. (Sunday 23 August 2020; 15:56)

Save The Day (95,146) by Edward from USA I hadn't commented on STD because I wanted to actually read what most people here had to say. Well, I think the song has a great chorus, but it feels half-cooked, rushed, as if she said: "JD, let's throw this sample in so I could finally feature an artist in a duet that never was." Sometimes I've questioned whether Mariah has actually lost her muse, but then I think of "Caution" and I reconsider my thoughts. I'm glad STD is relegated to being on the second CD. I do appreciate the fact she's giving us new music, but I think she had plenty of time to cook something great, memorable, way more polished, thought out. Even though I have made my peace with Mariah's voice, I'm worried that in 5 years there would only be whistles left. What in the world is happening? What is affecting this woman's voice so much at this point that it is fading away so fast? I feel very sad about it. (Sunday 23 August 2020; 14:36)

Re: Walter A. (95,143) (95,145) by Bobby A from United States I apologize for the wrong choice of words. Please forgive me. Blame it on my mind and not my heart. Sometimes I get caught up in moment trying to type my posts because I am multitasking. You all know I love Mariah. It won't happen again. Sorry. (Sunday 23 August 2020; 13:57)

Re: Webmaster (95,125) (95,144) by TJ from Norway You just did. (Sunday 23 August 2020; 08:08)

Re: Walter A. (95,140) (95,143) by Susana from USA My comments are about the original post and one from a few days ago. Yeah, I didn't like that he said that either. Is she's a beast now that needs to be tamed? Don't forget "they" [were] upset the other day about one of the posters on here simply saying someone must have mental issues on this board for the negativity, but now we need to tame her bipolar, she's not an animal. For the record, saying someone has mental issues isn't in itself negative. It's not butterflies and rainbows, but it's stating a possible reason for the extreme hatred. (Sunday 23 August 2020; 02:47)

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