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Re: ET rare moments (95,762) (95,774) by Xavier mariohmix from Spain Great. Thanks for sharing. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 13:38)

Oprah interview (95,773) by Anonymous from United States I honestly wasn't a fan of the interview. I thought Oprah spoke to and treated Mariah like she was a little girl. It doesn't seem like Oprah respects Mariah very much, and Mariah seems to go along with it out of deference. I also don't like this idea, promoted in the interview, that negative things that happen to us leave us "irreparably damaged" for the rest of our lives. Mariah's experience growing up sounded absolutely awful, and it was gut wrenching to hear that story about Allison as well as Mariah's experience with those friends calling her racial slurs. However, I've read a few reviews of the memoir, and I get the sense that Mariah and her co-writer portray Mariah as a person who doesn't have much agency, a perpetual victim. And I guess this makes sense because it is, after all, a celebrity memoir. But Mariah will never be able to be a whole human being if she's encouraged to think of herself this way. It's definitely important to seek the help of a psychologist and/or psychiatrist if you're struggling with a psychiatric illness; but at some point, you have to move on from the past. You cannot continue to see yourself as "damaged" or you will never get beyond it. And I say this from personal experience as someone who was given the same bipolar II diagnosis as Mariah and who also spent time in a psychiatric hospital. It's interesting to me that Mariah seems to have edited out the bipolar II diagnosis she previously discussed in 2018. I also really don't get this sudden change in her attitude towards her mother. I have difficulty accepting Mariah's contention that the incident at her mother's house in 2001 and her mother's decision to call the police were some kind of attempt to "overpower" or "control". It's very clear to me that Mariah was having some kind of manic episode and was in a really bad place. I think treating the situation as a mental health emergency was a very valid reaction from a parent. Maybe it was an "overreaction" in retrospect but what was her mother supposed to do? Ignore a cry for help and possibly risk Mariah hurting herself? I get the sense that her co-writer is behind this change. I'm going to remain open-minded and read the memoir, but a lot of this seems like an unnecessary rehashing of things that most fans already know. Still holding out hope for a deep dive into the project "All That Glitters". (Saturday 26 September 2020; 13:35)

Re: MC30 (95,747) (95,772) by Bill from the UK Thanks so much for the kind offer - my bro has text me his password now and I can view it on my iPod so I'm all set, but thanks very much for your message. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 12:22)

Oprah interview high quality link (95,771) by Shezz from Pk Let's hope it stays up long enough. I've just seen the first few minutes, thought I'd share it here in case people are still looking. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 11:22)

Re: The Exoneration of Mimi (95,763) (95,770) by Malcolm from Asia If you'll observe her body language, relieving all the traumas really shakes up her core and you can feel her nerves as she's telling Oprah about what she's been through in the past. It sucks that even until now you can see that she's fragile because of it. I just hope Mariah will reach a place where she can be at peace with her children and be secured for what she is. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 10:58)

Re: Mariah approved spoilers (95,759) (95,769) by Bill from the UK I can't get enough of HWGAA. I am so excited for next week. I am climbing the walls here. And I heard a 10 second clip of Can You Hear Me and it sounds divine. Seems like it would have slotted into the Emotions album perfectly. What a week for us next week will be. What a treat Mariah is giving us with the book and the album arriving days apart. Lord this is too much, thank you thank you thank you. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 08:27)

How you reading the book? (95,768) by Will from Australia How is everyone going about reading the book? I've ordered the hardback from Amazon but I'm nervous it won't arrive on the day so I might have to purchase the paperback too. Is anyone else going to read it alongside listening to the audiobook on Audible? You can sign up for a free trial and they let you keep the book if you cancel. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 07:01)

Re: The Oprah Conversation (95,761) (95,767) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada I opted for the audio book too as I think it will be cool to hear Mariah read it. I'll probably get a physical copy at some point too. I'm looking forward to the stories Oprah mentioned behind the songs. The person who wrote the soundtrack to my life talking about how the songs came to be sounds damn good to me. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 05:08)

I'm proud of Mariah (95,766) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada In the interview with Oprah she was real. It was hard to be that raw. You could see it. But she didn't hide. Having come to MCA for many years, I remember many conversations where the topic of trauma came up, I remember compassion being viewed at times as too soft. The thing is trauma is not an easy subject, every person processes it differently. It isn't making an excuse for someone to recognize they've been through trauma. She gave voice to it and I'm glad. Having compassion for someone isn't about giving them a free pass, it is just about being willing to see them as a human being without judgment or anger. She clearly still carries it with her, or some of Oprah's questions would have been easier to answer. I hope compassion is easier to give to Mariah now. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 04:37)

Re: Oprah interview (95,741) (95,765) by Nicky from Jasmine's Sofa I would actually love a Unicorn album by her. But yes, I'm so glad that she is going there with this book. So cathartic. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 02:33)

Re: Mariah and Oprah (95,736) (95,764) by Nicky from Jasmine's Sofa Yes. I've felt this way for years that she's doing the best she can with the hand when was dealt/unresolved issues and trauma. She so not perfect but amazing and deserving of kindness nonetheless. Music has always been her vehicle to heal, it doesn't always have to make sense to us. I am so happy that she is getting this weight off of her shoulders. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 02:30)

The Exoneration of Mimi (95,763) by Randy from USA Well. I just watched the Oprah interview. I firmly believe this book will not be an exercise in vanity. And my heart goes out to MC and what she's been through. I have been hard on MC. I have criticized her mercilessly over not so much the loss of her voice but the deception used. Over the last two years I have realized that she is a human with major insecurities so when the one thing celebrated about her faded, she wanted to still be special for as long as possible. My journey in Christ has also to show people care and not criticism. Until, I saw this interview, I had no idea of her trauma. And she was close to tears for most of it. So was I. This interview humanized her in a way for me that I can no longer criticize her for anything she does. She's just trying to make it through life the best way she can. And I know with the current state of my emotions, every day that I choose life is a win. So I try not to beat myself up for my mistakes. Even though MC doesn't make music for me anymore, I will always be a fan and give her repent for getting through tough times. And getting us through tough times. God bless us all. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 02:06)

ET rare moments (95,762) by 123 from USA So good. I wonder if Mariah has the full footage of some of these backstage performances and rehearsals. Of course they had to throw in a shady moment. Before I don't know her, there was "I didn't see her". Lol. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 01:57)

Re: The Oprah Conversation (95,758) (95,761) by Edward from USA I was debating whether to pre-order the physical book or the audio-book, but finally went for the audio-book. As much as I love having a tangible book in my hands, I rather listen to Mariah read to me whatever she's gone through. I got my over-ear headphones ready for the experience. I'll start listening to it from September 29 to October 2. Once I'm done, I'll unwrap "The Rarities" CD, and listen to CD-1 until my neighbors' weaves, wigs, and toupees fry on their heads. If there's a knock on the door with a complain, I'll comply but I'll play GTFO to culminate the evening. The next day, I'll obliterate the tracks I don't like and add "Don't Play That Song", "Do You Know Where You're Going To", "Thank God I Found You (Make It Last Remix)", "Right to Dream", "Help Me Make It" and "Almost Home". If "Slipping Away", "Everything Fades Away" and "Do You Think of Me" are decent enough to be on the album, why leave "Do You Know Where You're Going To" out? I can't wait. (Saturday 26 September 2020; 01:10)

Re: Article: Mariah tells Oprah Winfrey why she wrote her memoir (95,728) (95,760) by Joachim Agerup Løkkevik from Norway Oh shut the smurf up Andrew, the video is very entertaining to watch. You are not the oracle of this site. People wanting to look at spare moments, look at the video. (Friday 25 September 2020; 22:20)

Mariah approved spoilers (95,759) by 123 from USA I love how Mariah will rename a whole project of someone else leaks it before she does. But as long as she does it, it's all fair game. Still not a fan of [Here we go round again] but those vocals are insane. Is she belting at the top of her register? Show off-lol. Lullaby of Birdland sounds so dreamy and it sounds like a proper studio recording. I told y'all Cool On You was hot. It screams hit, and no surprise since everything recorded for [E=MC2] was intended to be a single. It sounds more Daydream like than [E=MC2] and could have nestled quite nicely in between Long Ago and Melt Away. Don't go to her twitter if you are still trying to wait until the release date. The album isn't even out and it's already my new obsession. (Friday 25 September 2020; 21:29)

Re: The Oprah Conversation (95,752) (95,758) by Malcolm from Asia Watching the interview made me understand her more. The behaviors from the past and even her personality as a whole really stems from the insecurity and struggles from her early life. Watching it really made me sad for her because it's really evident in her actions and the way she speaks to Oprah that her story is beyond from what we all know or making it to be. It made me relate to her even more so that when will come a time that she'll act a certain way again that we will not really in favor of, I'll get it, not that I'll tolerate it but surely will see it with more compassion. (Friday 25 September 2020; 19:28)

Re: Oprah interview (95,741) (95,757) by RibbonB from USA Check out the LA Times review that Michaels Angela Davis RT'd. It gives it high marks Burnett seems fair in mentioning it's shortcomings. She doesn't talk about her bipolar stuff, or lot of the things people have been salivating to know and supposedly takes no blame in anything, lol. I'm glad she was honest about her mom, I always wondered where she was while her kids were falling apart. (Friday 25 September 2020; 18:09)

Re: Mariah and Oprah (95,751) (95,756) by Mutton Dressed as Lamb from UK Ruffle? Those feathers will be plucked. I am inspired by how professional and dignified Mariah has been through it all. (Friday 25 September 2020; 17:47)

Re: Mariah and Oprah (95,751) (95,755) by MusicfanJ from Germany "She really does have a dysfunctional family and toxic siblings." Yes, it's shocking. To call them ex-sister and ex-brother is still too nice. They are scum especially the "sister". Unbelievable. (Friday 25 September 2020; 17:38)

Oprah interview link (95,754) by Elena from The Netherlands For everyone outside of USA and UK You can watch it here. (Friday 25 September 2020; 16:15)

Mariah's memoirs (95,753) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Could people stop discussing any revelations of the content of the memoir until it is out? I am sure I am not alone in not wanting spoilers (the term being quite apt in that they spoil the actual experience). (Friday 25 September 2020; 15:29)

The Oprah Conversation (95,752) by Chicago Lamb from USA Something about this reveal doesn't sit well with me. Mariah has a look on her face. She looks angry, sad and disgusted having to expose her family dirt. I expected to hear about Alison who has been a pain in the neck since the beginning of her career. But what I find sad is that the relationship with her brother followed the same fate. Morgan and Mariah had a good relationship well up to 2005. And now to my shock, it seems she's digging into her mom. Patricia has been her rock. In the LA Times review, she's labeled as a "negligent" parent. I hope Mariah and Patricia's relationship is still strong and intact because that would be that ultimate tragedy. (Friday 25 September 2020; 14:45)

Re: Mariah and Oprah (95,736) (95,751) by Terna from Nigeria I've only watched clips on social media and that part was really shocking. What kind of sister is Alison? Damn. She really does have a dysfunctional family and toxic siblings. This book is gonna ruffle a lot of feathers. (Friday 25 September 2020; 14:12)

The Oprah Conversation (95,750) by RoRo from PH I still recall with fondness that time when I was 5 or 6 years old when while listening to "I'll Be There" on the radio I asked my mother who this singer was. I remember this vividly because this was the first and last time I have ever asked that question out of sheer awe: such a beautiful, angelic, other-worldly instrument. It is an obvious thing to say that her massive catalogue has been the soundtrack of my life, her image the inspiration of my antics early on. From 6th grade's Can't Take That Away, which really was the time I first had an idea I might not be straight (lol), to rushing home from high school to catch re-runs of Divas Live 1999 with her and Diana Ross in matching gold and silver short dresses, to the debacle that was Glitter, to her redemption with The Emancipation of Mimi. I watched this interview literally without pausing. The first third is a discussion of her growing up as a biracial girl in a wildly dysfunctional family, which is an enlightening revelation as much as it is a sad one. The clear highlights for me though, and the ones I almost teared up for, are the following: (1) When Oprah reads the letter Leontyne Price wrote Mariah after the two met at Oprah's Legends Ball in 2005. The last line says "Your devotion to your art and career are praiseworthy. This brings you a standing ovation and a resounding brava. Brava. Brava." Leontyne Price is widely regarded as the first internationally-acclaimed African American opera singer. This is the only time Mariah cries in the interview. (2) When Oprah asks her the last question: "What is the word you feel about this book being released into the world? Is there one word?" Mariah Carey: "Freer." I cannot wait to have an internet-free weekend to just immerse myself in her memoir, The Meaning of Mariah Carey. This is one of the few things I have waited for my whole life. (Friday 25 September 2020; 12:59)

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