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Re: Divas Live 1998 (94,795) (94,796) by Bill from the UK I think both the live performances included on the EP are great, for different reasons. In fact, I love pretty much every version of Make It Happen. Unplugged, Thanksgiving, MSG, Daydream, Divas, Butterfly etc. MSG is brilliant and technically perfect, but VH1 has a lot more passion, force, and soul behind it. I'm glad the Divas performance is available, I think it's great. (Monday 3 August 2020; 13:49)

Re: Divas Live 1998 (94,792) (94,795) by Terna from Nigeria Here comes the ever resident troll on here that won't go away. Like you said it's all an opinion just like yours, but I guess even Mariah herself agrees with mine. (Monday 3 August 2020; 10:23)

Re: Charmbracelet (94,789) (94,794) by Nicky from Jasmine's Sofa I might be alone but I've always heard Lullaby as a sequel to The Roof. It carries the same nostalgia for me. I feel like it would be just as out of place on the charts as The Roof was when it was released. (Sunday 2 August 2020; 18:56)

Reflections (94,793) by Andrew from the United Kingdom This person is, without a shadow of a doubt, the world's worst singer. Though it is all to easy to laugh at the sounds emanating from the anus God appears to have mistakingly put in the lower half of the region on his head most people would call a face, we would do well to remember that evil comes in many forms and, much like the shadows that take away the bad dead people in the movie Ghost, the vocal emanations he makes are a warning to us all that the devil is real, God can't be everywhere all at once and we better all be good people or we may end up spending an eternity in a place where we have to listen to Jeremimi forever, completely tortured, devoid of hope and joy, and free of the wondrous things we take most for granted. Like the ability to press stop on a YouTube channel. (Sunday 2 August 2020; 16:41)

Re: Divas Live 1998 (94,788) (94,792) by Andrew from the United Kingdom I don't wanna do this because I quite like your posts as of late, but... "That VH1 Divas 1998 performance of Make it Happen is the best she's ever sung that song live and honestly hasn't ever since." Vocally it is completely outdone by MIH at Proctor's Theatre at the very least. The vocal is seemingly dubbed but still patchy in places. The "way-ay-ay-ay-yeahee-yeah" part is off key, for example. "I don't think I had ever seen Mariah command a stage and work it with such class, grace and confidence as she exuded that night." Madison Square Garden is surely Mariah her at most confident and commanding. "I'm glad she's released it currently for the younger generation to discover, it is one of the many treasures from Mariah's prime years." This is not Prime Mariah. Prime Mariah ended with the dawn of '97. This is in April '98. When do you think Prime Mariah ends? This is all subjective, of course. But all opinions are not equal where some align more closely with fact based evidence. (Sunday 2 August 2020; 16:00)

Re: Emotions live in TOTP (94,775) (94,791) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Clearly Mariah has vocal troubles here so is singing the song differently. But I actually love it sung like this. Why doesn't she do this in concerts now? Probably because it would be headline music news. But it would sound great. (Sunday 2 August 2020; 15:43)

Re: Walter live videos on instagram (94,773) (94,790) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Hilton, for perhaps the first time in years, we agree. I'm off to the pub. Ill have a drink to that. (Sunday 2 August 2020; 15:39)

Re: Charmbracelet (94,772) (94,789) by Joe from United Kingdom That's really interesting.. Never thought of Lullaby as single material. I love it just didn't think it would reach the masses. (Sunday 2 August 2020; 13:06)

Divas Live 1998 (94,788) by Terna from Nigeria That VH1 Divas 1998 performance of "Make it Happen" is the best she's ever sung that song live and honestly hasn't ever since. I don't think I had ever seen Mariah command a stage and work it with such class, grace and confidence as she exuded that night, at one point she even asked the audience to get up on their feet and they obliged - truly epic. You can tell she's very proud of that performance as she's basically always made reference to the way she sang it then anytime she performs it today; that version is still the template she uses. I'm glad she's released it currently for the younger generation to discover, it is one of the many treasures from Mariah's prime years. The Butterfly era was everything. (Sunday 2 August 2020; 12:07)

Remix EPs - Music Box (94,787) by Bill from the UK I know lists are "frowned upon", but I love them. I want to put this up for if MC continues to release remix EPs for the Music Box era, that on the off chance any of her team check in here, they know what should be included lol. Please let me know if I've missed anything. Dreamlover: 1. Def Club Mix 2. Def Club Mix Edit 3. Def Instrumental 4. USA Love Dub 5. Eclipse Dub 6. Def Tribal Mix 7. Theo's Club Joint (AKA Club Joint Mix) 8. Bam Jam Soul 9. Do You Think of Me Never Forget You: 1. Radio Edit 2. Extended 3. Instrumental Anytime You Need a Friend: 1. C&C Radio Mix 2. Soul Convention Remix 3. C&C Club Mix 4. Dave's Empty Pass 5. Stringapella 6. Ministry of Sound Mix 7. 7" Mix 8. Anytime Edit 9. Video Edit 10. Boriqua Tribe Mix 11. All That and More Mix 12. C&C Dub Mix 13. C&C Extended Mix 14. Album version without fade out (Sunday 2 August 2020; 10:21)

Re: Can't Let Go live (94,771) (94,786) by Bill from the UK You know it took me a long time to get into Can't Let Go. Partly because I felt it was a bit of a damp ending to Unplugged following the showstopper of I'll Be There, so I always used to skip it on that album. And with Emotions, I love Make It Happen so much I used to skip Can't Let Go to get to it quicker lol. But, as time has gone by, I have realised it is actually one of the best things she's ever done. The bridge is out of this world, the desperation in her voice when she sings "still you remain on my mind" and goes into the key change is brilliant. She's never really done anything like it sonically ever since. At the less said about Can't Say No the better. (Sunday 2 August 2020; 10:04)

Re: Emotions and Make It Happen HD (94,776) (94,785) by Bill from the UK Yes I think they've updated the existing ones as the view count hasn't been reset or anything. They look great, shame she hasn't done it for the debut videos. I know she hates them but we all love them, especially Someday. (Sunday 2 August 2020; 09:54)

Re: Emotions live in TOTP (94,782) (94,784) by Bill from the UK Yes I agree. I love the Unplugged album and I'll Be There dearly, but I always felt like Emotions had more mileage left in it. And You Don't Remember was planned as the fourth single, and would have sounded great on the radio. I really, really hope we get this Can You Hear Me track. The fact it is on a mastering tape (as per the pic MC teased) indicates it was recorded and finished, but for whatever reason didn't make it onto the album. Emotions is such a brilliant album, I play it all the time. Might go spin it now actually. (Sunday 2 August 2020; 09:51)

Re: Can't Let Go live (94,771) (94,783) by enwar00 from usa He says his name is William, but I'm sure it's Bill or Billy or Mac or Buddy. (Sunday 2 August 2020; 02:29)

Re: Emotions live in TOTP (94,779) (94,782) by enwar00 from usa Oh wow I've never heard her sound like that. She can barely speak. She still looks good though love the hair. So cool Can't Let Go didn't even have a video yet, love hearing stuff like that. Yeah I loved that she switched up the song during the performance, she's amazing, do wish she did more of that. I hope there's more goodies from the Emotions era, especially since I feel like it was cut short already. (Sunday 2 August 2020; 02:27)

Things to note (94,781) by Will from Australia Canada's Drag Race (RuPaul's) played the Snatch Game (impersonations) this week and one of them was Mariah, and it was a car crash. She looked pretty as Christmas Mariah but had zero of her traits and Mariah-isms and it was just difficult to watch. Was interesting that the judges description of what Mariah is, was all boobs and whatever and that she's hard to make funny. Poor Mariah, the public seem still stuck in her nightmare era persona. On a side note, I'm delighted Mariah released the live versions of Make It Happen but who in the hell authorised the VH1 to follow directly after the Maddison Square Garden live version. You can really notice the vocal decline. (Sunday 2 August 2020; 01:40)

Walter (94,780) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) As far as Walter is concerned, whatever transpired between them only they know. Honestly I have accepted that MC doesn’t want to work with him anymore. They have created some great music together there is no denying that, however I can understand that they both of them have moved on, and have decided to leave their musical partnership behind. For those who are hoping for a reunion I strongly doubt it, but you can always listen to the music they created in the past. I am sure that she will talk about what happened between them in the memoir because their musical partnership is a part of her career. (Sunday 2 August 2020; 01:04)

Re: Emotions live in TOTP (94,775) (94,779) by Bill from the UK I love this performance as well. She did an interview at the time whilst in the UK and you can tell she was super sick, which is why she took the song down about 2 octaves. But I love the imperfections so much. It shows what an intelligent singer she is, that she can completely switch up the arrangement and still give a great performance. (Sunday 2 August 2020; 00:37)

Re: Walter live videos on instagram (94,773) (94,778) by Bill from the UK I love the Mariah/Walter collabs as much as anybody, but I'd be super keen for her to work with Ben Margulies again. Each song they composed together had a completely different feel from the previous one. With Walter she more or less stayed in the same gear, bar a couple of exceptions. (Saturday 1 August 2020; 23:54)

Re: Womp, womp (94,774) (94,777) by Bill from the UK I have the EU Maxi single and, to my ear, it is the same remix. Would be good to have another opinion though. Not heard about the shorter Club No. 1 Mix. Will need to look into that one. (Saturday 1 August 2020; 23:53)

Re: Emotions and Make It Happen HD (94,769) (94,776) by enwar00 from usa I did miss that. Did they just update the ones that were already on there? (Saturday 1 August 2020; 23:49)

Emotions live in TOTP (94,775) by enwar00 from usa I've never seen this performance before but stumbled on it looking for the new remastered videos. Sounds very different hearing her some the songs much lower throughout and I like it. Always nice to hear something new. (Saturday 1 August 2020; 23:46)

Re: Womp, womp (94,768) (94,774) by cBerr from Canada That could very well be the case, but unfortunately I do not have the EU Maxi-Single with contains the version labelled (C+C Club Mix - 5:48). If anyone does and can verify they are one-in-the-same, I will stand corrected. Also, I know that Discogs list a test press vinyl which contains the C+C Dub-Dub Mix plus a shorter version of the C+C Club No. 1 Mix (with a run time of 7:14). (Saturday 1 August 2020; 22:08)

Re: Walter live videos on instagram (94,770) (94,773) by T from USA Exactly. Whatever transpired between them it probably took two to tangle. But no one can discount the chemistry. And if you’re a true fan of Mariah Carey the artist then you would welcome hearing another Walter A production. Their last being Lead The Way. (Saturday 1 August 2020; 21:54)

Re: Charmbracelet (94,760) (94,772) by Nicky from Jasmine's Sofa Love this question and it's definitely hard. But here's what I'm feeling today, in order: 1st - Yours This was just after Glitter. That era was sparkly, glossy, shiny... glittery. This as a first single would showcase her voice first, in a smooth and clean and clear production style. 2 - Lullaby I love this song so much. I feel like it's so relatable and it crosses genres. It doesn't sound like anything else from that time and the beginning notes are reminiscent of MJ in the 80s. A slick video could have set this off to show a more mysterious, "shady lady" side of Mariah. Again, offsetting the shine and glimmery pop image of Glitter. 3 - BOTH This was a smart single. Many people have said this is the only song on the album they liked. With many lambs and fans left unsure after her previous era, this is a familiar song, great rendition, strong single in general. 4 - Through The Rain remix with Kelly and Joe This remix is so much better to listen to than the original. The original is an art piece, but it's too heavy to consume imo. The lyrics are so great and I feel like the remix showcases them more. It tells a story and it makes you feel good. It doesn't sound like a ballad. This would have been a great final single for the album. Honorables I love Boy (I need you) but the video was not supportive of the song imo. Maybe it would have performed better if it was given a whole different context and image. I also love Clown and had Glitter been successful (as it really should have been) then the purpose of Charmbracelet wouldn't have been to make safe choices in order to reassure fans that she's still got it together. If this was the case, Clown would have been a great edgy but beautiful, pretty but shady song to release. The controversy would have sent it up the charts and again, a great video (I picture WBT shower scene and satin sheets Mariah for it, and Bianca?) would have just set it off. Just for laughs. If this was a different world, Subtle Invitation would be a single and smash the adult contemporary world sending lounge jazz singers around the world to add it to their live sets. This is one I've my favorite songs on the album. (Saturday 1 August 2020; 21:17)

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