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Re: Hopes for the memoir (94,554) (94,556)
by RibbonB from USA
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You're still trying to make it be fuve? LMAO. What about all her "entangulations"? She's mad because Jada used a version of her self created word before her memoir was released. I bet Mimi is proud that irregardless got it's masters was into Webster's dictionary this year.
(Saturday 11 July 2020; 19:34)
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Her name twice on the cover (94,555)
by Edouard from France
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The title is not expected. And why should it be? Mariah knows how to intrigue. I actually like the title now that I have thought about it and that I feel I can see where she is going with this. She's not having her whole name written twice on the cover for nothing. I believe this book is going to be perception versus reality of who Mariah is. The meaning of Mariah Carey to a bunch of people and entities: - in terms of money to the industry, corporate world she talked about in her Variety speech. - in terms of talent and contribution to music and other artists maybe - in terms of inspiration to people, to her lambs especially as a multiracial woman who has had to overcome so much and has always been vocal about it without saying to much and yet allowing us to feel her in her songs and find solace in them as well - in terms of love to her kids and family - in terms of faith and self-belief, how she's finally at peace with who she truly is outside of those outside lenses, how she feels whole now and as dissociated as before, not torn between all these versions of herself I love this woman.
(Saturday 11 July 2020; 17:05)
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Hopes for the memoir (94,554)
by Bill from the UK
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I know the memoir is wrapped up, packed up, ribbon wid a bow on it, but here are my hopes for what she talks about.
* Her musicality first and foremost. Discovering her gift, the nurturing of it by her mother, singing with those old jazz musicians as a child and learning her craft. I really hope she goes into detail about her songwriting process and what she puts into each song. I would love the memoir to contain scans of her song books with lyric ideas and song structures etc. Who she enjoys working with, and chapters for Gavin Christopher (pre game), Ben M and Walter A and Jermaine D as they are her most significant writing partners.
* The childhood. The struggles, the divorce, Alison and Morgan then and now, school life, moving to Manhattan to seek her fortune and living with Josephine and waitressing etc. And then the truth about what really happened at "that party" where Tommy heard the demo tape. Was it all a publicity spin, as she was already bring courted by another label etc.
* Tommy, Luis, Nick, James and Brian as her significant partners should be covered in depth, and some light shedding around the whole Derek Jeter sitch, and whether she had an affair etc. would be good to know.
* Motherhood and how this has changed her views, her pace, her determination, her priorities etc.
* Songs that are, will be, or never were. A deep dive into songs that never saw the light of day and why. The Lauryn Hill collab, the Prince duet, Reach for the Sky. Also come clean about songs that are about people (Eminem, Damizza etc.).
* Glitter and the bipolar diagnosis, warts and all.
* The nightmare era and how and why she allowed her to effectively ruin and permanently damage her image, brand, and public persona she spent years building up.
* The voice and its deterioration. Acknowledgement that her own life choices have affected it, and that she has accepted that and has made her choice, and is comfortable with it. End the smoke and mirrors and press forward singing with your real, unfiltered and engineered voice. We will always love it, no matter how it sounds, because we love her.
And that's probably it. If however it's a compilation of her sound bites and press releases since 1990, I'll be pissed.
(Saturday 11 July 2020; 14:33)
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Re: The Meaning of Ridicule (94,529) (94,553)
by Will from England
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Forgive me, but isn't the point of an autobiography supposed to be all about the person writing it, therefore the title should reference this in some way? Looking at other titles for memoirs, she could have gone down two routes: either have a title that is vague but intriguing (e.g. Life's What You Make It - Philip Scholfield or Handstands In The Dark: A True Story of Growing Up and Survival - Jane Godley or Becoming - Michelle Obama) or she has a title that is more on the nose, tells the reader what this book may be/is about (e.g. Too Much and Never Enough: How My Family Created the World's Most Dangerous Man - Mary Trump or This Is Me - Mrs Hitch or Eye of the Storm: Twenty-Five Years in Action with the SAS - Peter Ratcliff). Mariah has always picked titles that she feels embodies the work that she has put out, more so with her albums. Yes some are self-referential but there is nothing wrong with that, and more so when it comes to a book. I'm sure she had a lot of titles that she went through with the book before settling on one that suited the theme and subject matter within the book.
(Saturday 11 July 2020; 09:36)
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The Meaning Of Mariah (94,552)
by Bobby A from United States
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MC has always been the artist with eccentric and in your face album titles. The book title does not surprise. When the book arrives, she is going surprise all with the book and how deep she goes in. I hope she releases the 30th anniversary edition of Mariah Carey on vinyl at the same time or two weeks later. That's all I really want.
(Saturday 11 July 2020; 05:59)
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Re: Memoir (94,527) (94,551)
by B from USA
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Me too, Brad. I wish they had either used a new photo or the picture of Mariah as a baby on the beach.
The Meaning of Mariah Carey isn't a bad title. It's about the essence of who she is and was as a person without artifice. Her laying bare her soul.
(Saturday 11 July 2020; 03:55)
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Re: This picture of Mariah is everything (94,530) (94,550)
by B from USA
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No, she is not. Bye.
(Saturday 11 July 2020; 03:42)
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Re: Mariah's memoir (94,547) (94,549)
by Licia from USA
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I doubt it. Lmao.
(Saturday 11 July 2020; 01:27)
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Re: The Meaning of Ridicule (94,543) (94,548)
by Tijl from Belgium
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Andrew, I do appreciate your opinion because I figure you as an intelligent and educated person (and I would love to meet you in the flesh) but your cynicism is too hard to bear. Give our girl a break and let us read the book before judging.
By the way Andrew, when addressing me, use my name. It is only four letters and not "Belgium". A matter of respect. Thank you.
(Friday 10 July 2020; 23:17)
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Re: Mariah's memoir (94,541) (94,547)
by RibbonB from USA
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What if she gives too much? LMAO.
(Friday 10 July 2020; 19:34)
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The title (94,546)
by RibbonB from USA
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It is not great, but it's not that bad. I would've liked a one word title, but hey it's her book. Her co writer does give me a little more confort and confidence in the contents. The issue with the title may lay in the unfortunate coincidence in the forthcoming documentary called The Meaning of Hitler, based on the decades old biography by the same name. But I don't think people will care, her memoir is already a bestselling memoir on Amazon based on pre-sales.
(Friday 10 July 2020; 19:27)
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Re: The Meaning of Ridicule (94,543) (94,545)
by We are Lambily from USA
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Blm riots? It's Black Lives Matter movement. The riots didn't even account 2% of all the protest around the world. It's without no doubt the most important movement. It's like calling Christianity/priests for pedophiles.
(Friday 10 July 2020; 16:30)
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Re: Mariah's memoir (94,541) (94,544)
by RibbonB from USA
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Well, maybe the book [will] reveal a bit.
(Friday 10 July 2020; 15:36)
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Re: The Meaning of Ridicule (94,540) (94,543)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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I am afraid you are incorrect, Belgium. "Meaning" in "The Meaning of Mariah Carey" is not an adjective, but a noun; a noun that I would say means the importance / value / significance of something, or a conveyance of an idea that something represents or signifies. Unwrap the title with that in mind and you may see exactly from where the nausea people will undoubtedly feel toward it will come. Or simply, let us rewrite it now and see:
The Importance of Mariah Carey The Value of Mariah Carey The Significance of Mariah Carey The Idea Represented by Mariah Carey
Suddenly, when you understand the English the title is a little... uncomfortable, right? Mariah certainly has a knack for trying to influence what people think about her rather than showing herself as she is and trusting people to see truth in beauty. And I think therein lies the problem with the book before it has even been sent to the presses. If this is not an honest recounting but a further pushing of the same old tired narratives with little honesty about the subjects to which the fans (and perhaps public alike) want answers, that is to say: vocal degradation, the truth about "the violent times", what actually happened during her breakdown (and admitting that it was one), the fabrication of the James Packer romance, her #MeToo moments, and so on, then it will be just another wasted project.
Given the BLM riots, I would say that this book, if it did not have it before, will have a heavy emphasis on racist incidents from Mariah's youth. It will make the book a hot topic and will be easy for Mariah to make relevant in promotional interviews. And it is fair for Mariah to share these stories as they are her truths.
But she should be careful; the world does not want to hear rich celebrities painting themselves as victims of society. Mariah is among the richest celebrities of the world. The system has hardly failed her. In fact, it took a girl who had a voice and propelled her to stardom so should she make the theme of the book about constant victimhood it may not wash well with people. Mariah certainly pursued her dream for a couple of years through sweat and toil, but was literally handed to music executives and carried to stardom from there on the back of her (quite unique) singing and songwriting capabilities. A lifetime of hardship this was not but, rather, a life of luxury, free of the basic survival worries felt by almost every other human on the planet. If this book does not relate truth, but, rather, the narrative Mariah wants people to believe, then people will see through it and she better have some more resilience to deal with the backlash.
(Friday 10 July 2020; 14:44)
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The meaning of ridicule (94,542)
by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City)
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Honestly we have to realize that this is Mariah's moment, and her story to tell. Many of us always find the negative in things without looking at the positive she is here to tell her own story after years of others telling her story. She has overcome a lot to be the woman she is today, also she is giving this moment to her fans and it does not do her a service by finding fault, and negativity in everything because you don't agree with something. I say let her have her say, and allow her to enjoy her moment while she is able. If you don't receive the moment that is okay, move on, and hopefully she will create many more moments that you will be able to enjoy at some point. Be safe, be well, and enjoy your day Archives family.
(Friday 10 July 2020; 14:10)
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Re: Mariah's memoir (94,533) (94,541)
by Licia from USA
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I already know and am prepared that nothing too good or what I want to be addressed will be leaked. I've made peace with it. Lol.
(Friday 10 July 2020; 13:50)
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Re: The Meaning of Ridicule (94,529) (94,540)
by Tijl from Belgium
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Perhaps that is the whole point of this book. Mariah has referred to the experience of writing her autobiography as intensely cathartic. I believe the "meaning" indicates she explores the meaning of her being her on this planet. An in-depth story of the why and how. She has said many times in interviews that at a young age she believed and hoped that fame would validate her existence. That clearly hasn't worked out the way she anticipated. Don't we all at a certain point in life question our time on earth, the unbearable lightness of our being?
the dictionary: meaning ~ adjective "intended to communicate something that is not directly expressed"
There is much more to this title than supposed narcissism.
(Friday 10 July 2020; 12:06)
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Re: This picture of Mariah is everything (94,530) (94,539)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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Look at the Instagram pic with the sunflower, it's much more beautiful. I don't think she's overweight, of course no top form but hey I gained a little weight too since the Corona crisis. Not everyone is motivated to have a training right now. And most of the people need "nerve food" at those times. I always think a little bit more looks better than too thin, but of course a sporty, healthy figure looks great too.
(Friday 10 July 2020; 11:57)
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Re: The Meaning of Ridicule (94,529) (94,538)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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I'm also not a fan of the third person thing. But yes Mariah seems to like it a lot. I would have prefered another title but if the book is good I can live with that.
(Friday 10 July 2020; 11:45)
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Re: Music fan J release date (94,513) (94,537)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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Thanks Gee for the info. And all the other members for letting ne know. Autumn is cool, I love to read so this will be a highlight this year for sure.
(Friday 10 July 2020; 09:54)
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Re: The Meaning of Mariah Carey (94,520) (94,536)
by TJ from Norway
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It's at least my birthday, and Daydream was released on that day in Norway. 
(Friday 10 July 2020; 09:00)
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Article: Mariah Carey says she will lose entire singing career (94,535)
by Lafa from Sweden
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Bullshit. That singing technique sits in the throat/tounge - not in the lungs.
(Friday 10 July 2020; 08:33)
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Re: Mariah's memoir (94,525) (94,534)
by Tijl from Belgium
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The picture is very much the diva. Big hair, some skin and diamonds. If it is good enough for her, it is certainly good enough for me. I hope the book includes tons of unpublished pictures.
(Friday 10 July 2020; 02:00)
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Re: Mariah's memoir (94,528) (94,533)
by RibbonB from USA
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I don't love the cover, but it's ok. She's not leaking anything it seems though.
(Friday 10 July 2020; 01:59)
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Book cover (94,532)
by Andrew from the United Kingdom
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The photograph they chose is great, however. She doesn't have the tits hanging out.
I wonder if she even mentions her numerous breast augmentations. A hundred says she won't. Another hundred says this book will be a whitewash. It is not in Mariah's interest to give her critics ammunition and she never, ever goes off-brand. She won't cause beef with other people in case they reveal things about her which are off-brand, also. This book, especially given the violently vain title, will be Mariah reminding everyone of the promotional narratives about her that have been pushed over the years. It will be an interesting read. But this is a promo tool. Nothing more. At least it has "meaning".
(Friday 10 July 2020; 01:57)
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