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Mariah needs to recover her voice and stop touring (92,886) by MC1989 from Spain I've been a huge fan for decades now. I've been very supportive even at her worst moments. I went to her Christmas show in Madrid in 2018 and when Caution came out I thought it was one of her best albums in her entire career. When she released Caution I was proud of her again. She gave us some really good live moments during The Caution Tour and she made a little effort by changing the setlist (Glitter medley etc), and the visuals were good for the first time in ages (With You live at The AMAs and the stage production of her Caution Tour). 2019 was a great year for her. As a fan, for the first time in many years I witnessed how she was gaining some respect back and public recognition for her long career and the living legend that she Is (Billboard Icon Award, 19th number one, Songwriters Hall Of Fame induction recently). Yesterday watching the videos from her Vegas residency I cringed. The only one that I really enjoyed was Endless Love, where she manages to sing 99% live with a beautiful tone. But in most of the songs she sounds restrained and hoarse again except in some little parts, no belting anywhere, no sustained notes, playback at its worse. (There's a video during the medley where she's still talking while the first line of Honey comes in. Why? Just why does she needs to lip that first easy line?) She barely moves with that pink barbie gown (she even addressess it), what makes the experience boring. I don't need her to put out a choreographed show and dance as if she was Beyoncé because her talent lies in that voice, that beautiful tone and resonance, and the magic of that huge catalogue of songs crafted by her. But if the voice is at its worse, the lipped parts are so obvious, and she just moves badly around a stage I don't want to see it. It's painful. When she's focused and she works hard, she still can slay and own that stage. But what if for the first time she tries something new? Surgery maybe? Re-learn how to use her voice? But I'm afraid she's becoming lazy and the main reason for these concerts is not promoting anything new, not for the fans, but for the money. I'm really tired of the chez-longue intros (really, who direct these shows?), the champagne moments on stage and the long tight barbie gowns and corsets that prevent her to move. I would really love her to finish this boring Vegas residency and focus on improving her singing. Focus on recovering her voice, go to the best doctors only people like her can afford, work with the best vocal coaches, train daily, learn new singing techniques because it's obvious that everything else is not working. Time to stop and face that "voice problem" that causes her so much insecurity and be with her family. Focus on new music if she wants to (music that she can replicate live) on her memoirs (I'm really looking forward for that release this year), but she really needs to move from the spotlight for a while, until she comes back with a renewed sense of confidence in her instrument, and can give a good performance with no need of lipping. And learn some easy dance steps would be great too. If she doesn't stop, I'm afraid sooner or later we'll have another viral video like the one I mentioned before where she's badly lip-synching. (Sunday 16 February 2020; 16:07)

Re: No vocal audit (92,880) (92,885) by Bill from the UK I love how it's now Andre vs. Andrew. (Sunday 16 February 2020; 15:09)

Re: Bill (92,881) (92,884) by Bill from the UK Okay, thank you, that's nice of you. I guess the frustrations are felt on both sides. But Endless Love with Trey was really good the other day. (Sunday 16 February 2020; 13:02)

Re: No vocal audit (92,880) (92,883) by Andrew from the United Kingdom A healthcare professional that doesn't actually understand what schizophrenia is? And one who calls people they believe to have a mental illness a "wrongun"? You're as much of a healthcare professional as I am a ballet dancer. But well done for trying. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the argument still stands. Mariah should save what voice she has left, stop with endless touring. But the medley was good yesterday. And Endless Love. We enjoyed them. (Sunday 16 February 2020; 00:52)

Re: No vocal audit (92,876) (92,882) by Tijl from Belgium Andrew, with every post you become more enamored with your own "spiel" without making any sense. Nobody will come to hear you sing, ever. So cancel the security guards and the Pespsi deal. It ain't going to happen. By the way, rumor has it Madonna would love to be your opening act. (Sunday 16 February 2020; 00:20)

Re: Bill (92,875) (92,881) by Tijl from Belgium Bill, I wasn't adressing you. I have read your honest and very moving testimony and I feel for you. But it seems you have accepted what has happened and you decided to move on. I am just terribly fed up with certain members of this "fan" group who continuously and incessantly keep bitching about every bloody thing Mariah is doing wrong. She is still going strong and she is the last of a dying breed: a genuine and authentic talented global superstar. If we really have to talk about "splendeur passée", let us all focus on Madonna. That is a really a career shot to hell. (Sunday 16 February 2020; 00:16)

Re: No vocal audit (92,876) (92,880) by Andre from UK Why are you here Andrew? I've read your messages and you are either several people using one account or suffering from undiagnosed schizophrenia. I say this as I'm a healthcare professional with 25 years experience and you Andrew are a wrongun. Your feeble argument about truly caring for Mariah is as tired as you are. Does it make you feel better to trash talk other people? The answer is no, of course it doesn't, that's why your messages get worse over time. Delete your account, get help and take a moment to look at yourself. The truth is you don't hate Mariah, you hate yourself and it's really obvious. (Saturday 15 February 2020; 23:42)

Re: No Time To Die - Billie Elish (92,869) (92,879) by B from USA I felt the same way. Billie's is the best Bond theme in years. (Saturday 15 February 2020; 20:17)

Re: Bill (92,877) (92,878) by B from USA Mariah slayed last night so enjoy eating crow. Everyone said she'd never score another #1 and yet she just did. Mariah Carey can still sing she just can't sing like she did in her prime which is the result of aging and yet some people refuse to accept that she's not 25 years old anymore and want to compare her current voice to her voice when she was in her prime which is ridiculous and ignorant. Mariah's voice isn't a shot as Whitney's was. Mariah's surprise performances of TAOLG for fans on Fallon prove that when she's well-rested and has rehearsed properly she can still sing and hit the notes. (Saturday 15 February 2020; 20:04)

Re: Bill (92,868) (92,877) by Andrew from the United Kingdom Perhaps the way to actually approach these whackjobs who literally care more about getting a Mariah fix than Mariah's actual voice, career and legacy is to ask them direct closed questions: Do you think Mariah's voice is bad? Do you think Mariah's voice is getting worse? Do you like that Mariah uses lip sync for all high andsustained notes? Do you like it when Mariah's voice cracks? Do you think it's awkward when Mariah avoids uneasy party's of songs by using deflection through mumbling or audience participation? Do you think that Mariah should keep touring and straining her voice? Do you like that Mariah's bad performances online now outnumber her good ones? Are you happy that Mariah's reputation as a great vocalist is increasingly called into question the worse the issues get? Do you want Mariah's legacy to be the-singer-who-lost-the voice? Let the delusional people answer those questions "yes" or "no". The aim here isn't to be horrible to Mariah at all. It's to actually say to her we know something is very wrong and perhaps you should calm down with all this touring because it's too much now. If she lip syncs or cracks at Brighton Pride the gays will eat her alive. Game over. (Saturday 15 February 2020; 12:25)

Re: No vocal audit (92,834) (92,876) by Andrew from the United Kingdom It is typical of delusional people here to completely ignore the point, to try to make it about something else and ridicule it. That's one's called Argumentum ad absurdum and is also the reserve of the galactically stupid. Repeat all you like that you would not buy a ticket to my show. It's a good job, really, as security would be stopping whackjobs from coming in so you would have wasted your money. Whilst on stage I plan on standing still, singing a few low notes and then lip syncing everything above normal speaking range and anything with a sustained note. More's the pity, sounds like you would have enjoyed it. (Saturday 15 February 2020; 12:03)

Re: Bill (92,867) (92,875) by Bill from the UK "I do mind when people become blatantly frustrated by their own shortcomings and project them onto people way above their own achievements." Was that in reference to my post? If so, I came to terms with my injury and found a very rewarding job as a coach. The analogy I'd use there is MC coming to terms with where she's at vocally and perhaps instead focus on being a songwriter, or at least sing in her range she has (and Caution was a step in the right direction). It's almost as if Mariah is very gradually, with every album, toning it down so that she can eventually sing in her remaining range. But the lambs will keep baying for more whistles, more number ones, and more sales. "Well here I am, for all of them to bleed". Never a truer phrase ever sung by Mariah. Shame on you all. (Saturday 15 February 2020; 09:56)

As I said (92,873) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) As I said if Mariah is such a mess, and lost her touch why continue to support her? Again I am sure none of us are perfect all the time. Yes it is sad when she is not her best when we all know what she is capable of. However we can not change what has already been done. Touring as we know is a major way for many artists to make a living besides album sales, endorsements, and publishing. Personally I feel like MC should take some time away from the stage because she has been touring nonstop since 2014. I think that she has more than earned some down time after this Vegas run. But ultimately she has to make the best decision for herself. (Saturday 15 February 2020; 03:05)

Re: New Bond song (92,865) (92,872) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines I love Bond theme songs as well, if only for the reason that the franchise was able to curate a specific, instantly recognizable sound that can only be associated with the movie. I actually also appreciate Madonna's, because that was a time the franchise decided to deviate from their trademark sound. I always thought that if Mariah would make a a Bond song, it would be something that would be closer to my faves - Gladys Knight's License To Kill, Lani Hall's Never Say Never Again or Sheryl Crow's Tomorrow Never Dies. I love Garbage's The World Is Not Enough, Adele's Skyfall and the new one from Billie, but those also seem too dark for Mariah. (Saturday 15 February 2020; 02:43)

Happy Valentines Day (92,871) by Aliya from Canada Happy Valentines Day to Mariah Carey and Brian Tanaka. (Saturday 15 February 2020; 02:35)

Re: New Bond song (92,865) (92,870) by B from USA They probably asked her to in the '90s and Tommy probably vetoed it like he did her singing Where Are You Christmas. (Saturday 15 February 2020; 00:03)

Re: No Time To Die - Billie Elish (92,841) (92,869) by Leonard from Indonesia I thought that Sam Smith James Bond song was just blah and boring. But this new James Bond song is even more zzz. (Friday 14 February 2020; 23:10)

Re: Bill (92,850) (92,868) by Edward from USA Some fans here don't care about Mariah at all, they care about the lies they tell themselves as if it repeating them long enough they would turn out to be true, they'd rather Mariah fall on her ass or keep making a fool of herself while their deluded selves scream "yasss queen, slay". I would prefer consistency than mediocrity. At some point, things will be so obvious that people will start walking out of her concerts like they did to Whitney. Mariah has to stop touring, is ruining what's left of her voice, and putting her on the spot. Whoever thinks she's slaying is completely delusional, and yes I said it, delusional. The constant stress she's putting on her voice is taking a huge toll on it. (Friday 14 February 2020; 23:03)

Re: Bill (92,849) (92,867) by Tijl from Belgium I don't mind opinions. I do mind when people become blatantly frustrated by their own shortcomings and project them onto people way above their own achievements. We can all call out to Mariah, none of us comes into her league. Voice gone or not, she will always be a major part of music's history. We are hardly a whisper. (Friday 14 February 2020; 20:51)

Mariah at Pride (92,866) by Lee from UK I have my tickets and I'm excited. I hope she shows up and puts on a good show. Apparently she's doing a 75 minute set and I'm hoping there are minimal costume changes. Has Mariah ever headlined a pride event before? (Friday 14 February 2020; 20:19)

New Bond song (92,865) by MusicfanJ from Germany I love Bond songs (except the one with Madonna). I have just heard the new one. And I thought wouldn't it be cool, if Mariah will make a Bond theme song in the future? What do you think? (Friday 14 February 2020; 20:15)

Re: In The Fix (92,854) (92,864) by MusicfanJ from Germany Tough question. But I also think it's too much risk. I would prefer to try a healthy lifestyle plus vocal training. (Friday 14 February 2020; 20:10)

Difference of opinion (92,863) by Gee from U.S.A. (New York City) I can respect another person's opinion that is different from mine. However if your main objective is to be negative, and disrespectful that I have an issue with. Yes we might not like things about MC but to keep harping on the same things that we cannot fix is pointless. At this point we have to either accept that Mariah and her voice has changed and still be supportive, or just move on entirely and support other artists who tickle your fancy. But you can still cherish the moments, and memories that made you a fan. (Friday 14 February 2020; 19:48)

Re: O Holy Night (92,853) (92,862) by Bill from the UK So, proving my point somewhat, the majority of that performance was a backing track. (Friday 14 February 2020; 19:45)

Re: No vocal audit (92,837) (92,861) by B from USA If an artist releases an album or several that disappoint me I move on. Why do you continue to follow her or come to a message board dedicated to her if you no longer like her or her music? (Friday 14 February 2020; 19:43)

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