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Re: Charmbracelet singles (92,334) (92,336) by Licia from USA I've been going to Waffle House my whole life and I have never gotten the waffles. They look disappointing. Lol. Twat waffle was the nicest thing I could come up with. Before boobgate he just always came off too cocky to me. I'll never ever deny his talent, but personality wise I was never for him. Boobgate just gave me more of a reason to dislike him. If the rumor was true that he didn't work with Mariah on Yours because he felt she was a has been, that really put the nail in the coffin. Even at her lowest point she was still a legend and you don't disrespect a legend like that . (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 17:20)

Article: Mariah Carey supports Tyler Perry at premiere in NYC (92,335) by RibbonB from USA The bottom of this dress is super cute. (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 14:54)

Re: Charmbracelet singles (92,319) (92,334) by RibbonB from USA Twat waffle though? By the way, I had my first Waffle House waffle while working in Cincinnati for a week. Those waffles are truly trash. JT has always been meh IMO. Even before boobgate. (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 14:51)

Re: Things have definitely taken a turn (92,322) (92,333) by RibbonB from USA Well I wasn't speaking for, or about that one. I was however, referring to my own skepticism and for a few others who have expressed concern from the get go. (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 14:44)

Re: Mariah (92,327) (92,332) by Bill from the UK Is your figure including the 2.6 billion? (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 13:25)

Re: Important recordings (92,329) (92,331) by Bill from the UK Thank you everybody for your replies. I did of course consider We Belong Together, however, I felt the other three brought about industry and generational changes to music. Those of you who weren't around in the early 90s need to understand that (caps) nobody (end caps) had ever sung the way Mariah did before. Sure Minnie had her whistles and Aretha had her runs, but neither really used them to good musical effect like Mariah did. Now every female singer post-Mariah mimicks her style. AIWFCIY is self explanatory really, and Fantasy Remix because again, it was so left field and had never, ever been done on that scale before. Remember again where we were at the time. This was the balladeer, who sang about heroes in long black dresses, married to the boss of Sony, duetting with ODB from Wu Tang. It was an incredible, never to be matched, genius stroke that shaped pop music for the future right there and then. After those three songs, things would never be the same. (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 11:38)

Re: Geek alert: UK singles ranking (92,324) (92,330) by Bill from the UK It was ready for release, but was pulled at the last minute because of nervousness around how the UK audience would react to it, what with it being her most heavy R&B/hip hop flavoured number at that point in time. (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 11:32)

Re: Important recordings (92,315) (92,329) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines I'd say that's pretty accurate. I'd add We Belong Together in there, though. Nothing in 2005 sounded like it, and after its release there would be a whole lot of WBT-style tracks released. (I Belong To Me by Jessica Simpson, Take A Bow by Rihanna, all of the inferior WBT sequels and clones from Mariah herself, and a good amount of Ne-yo's discography. Even J.Lo tried to have her own with Wrong When You're Gone.) I'd also probably add even Breakdown if only for the fact that this track is one of the most praised Mariah songs ever that even non-Mariah fans love it, which is even more impressive considering it practically is a deep cut. (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 11:03)

Re: Mariah (92,326) (92,328) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Okay slow down there - Rare only dropped last Friday, so that would leave it a few more days before sales will officially be counted. As of early projections it's expected to debut at #1 with around 50-55k in pure sales and a possibly larger number in streaming and digital sales on top of that. Selena is a popular artist with a #1 lead song, but she's also one of those whose popularity and singles success doesn't necessarily translate into album sales. Sonically though, Rare is actually quite good. It's almost universally praised by critics. Funny how out of her, Miley and Demi, she technically has the weakest voice but is still the strongest artist. (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 10:52)

Re: Mariah (92,326) (92,327) by We are Lambily from USA She sold more than around 7-8 thousands than Mariah. Sorry. And I [sic] been listening for hours now, it's Mariah's new team biggest mistake not including it. Such a [sic] inspiring song. (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 10:50)

Mariah (92,326) by We are Lambily from USA It's crazy that one of music biggest stars (Selena Gomes) today sold less than 10 thousands than what Caution sold in pure sales. Even though she had a #1 hit. I honestly couldn't care about sales as I'm listening now. Whatever Mariah has to offer, I'm buying. (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 09:35)

Re: Bill / Migrate (92,297) (92,325) by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter There was an interview (I do not remember which one) where she was asked about Migrate being a follow up second single after TMB and Mariah clearly says something along the lines of "of course not, it is definitely not going to be a single". She was confident about it and from her tone in agreement with the decision of not releasing it. When Mariah wants something to be a single and doesn't get it her way she usually makes it a point to show she wasn't in agreement with the snub, for example her complaining about not being able to release "The One" instead of "Boy". (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 07:24)

Re: Geek alert: UK singles ranking (92,314) (92,324) by TJ from Norway Why wasn't The Roof released in GB? (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 07:06)

Re: Yummy? (92,316) (92,323) by We are Lambily from USA Infinity is definitely better Yummy, Justin was lucky those girls did that amazing video for him. Sad how generic songs have become. He better have some songs with some substance. I go and play some MOIA to clean my head (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 06:21)

Re: Things have definitely taken a turn (92,287) (92,322) by 123 from USA Ribbon, one of my favs but I have to disagree. It's very follow the leader on the board sometimes so the same bitter privileged girls on the board start their trolling because they obviously are so unhappy with their lives. My advice to those girls, find a real career. I mean now we are calling books that aren't even out until third quarter flops over a title that obviously went way over their head (simple b.t@&e$). It's a book, is it really that deep? Let it flip flop and disappoint I say so the girls can rant. Muah. (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 06:04)

Re: Important recordings (92,315) (92,321) by enwar00 from usa Bill I think We Belong Together should be on that list. What a colossal career redefining moment it was. Without that hitting the way it did 15 years into her career, I don't think we would have just experienced these recent records being broken 15 years later. (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 04:41)

Re: Charmbracelet singles (92,310) (92,320) by 123 from USA Here in the States You Got Me should have led the album. Ballads out of style and songs like Fat Joes's What's Luv (uptempo hip hop records with r and b hooks) was pouring out of the radio. Plus she had Jay Z on the song. I remember it was one of the songs playing on her website. Clown should have been the second single to build on the controversy of her and Obsessed short lived fling. They could have went with the One or Sorry You Had You're Chance as the third and final singles. Overseas they got it right with Through the Rain and Bringing On The Heartbreak were both pop ballads. Then they could have finished with Yours. (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 03:58)

Re: Charmbracelet singles (92,312) (92,319) by Licia from USA Although I think JT is a whole twat waffle I believe his input would have been phenomenal. (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 03:11)

Re: Important recordings (92,315) (92,318) by Licia from USA I agree with your 3 and I'll add a fourth which is Honey. (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 03:08)

Re: Important recordings (92,315) (92,317) by Norman from USA No three singles are more defining. I'd note an honorable mention to WBT, however. (Tuesday 14 January 2020; 02:47)

Re: Yummy? (92,293) (92,316) by Andrew from the United Kingdom You're an obsessive weirdo. I say I like Justin's new song and you go off on such a tangent you've lost your head up your arse. Nobody was talking to you. I like Mariah Carey, I like GTFO and With You. I listen to Mariah daily. Why don't you get a life and stop obsessing over me? Lmao. Pray for yourself. (Monday 13 January 2020; 22:41)

Important recordings (92,315) by Bill from the UK As an aside, is anyone in disagreement that the three most important recordings Mariah ever made are: 1. Vision of Love 2. All I Want for Christmas Is You 3. Fantasy (Remix) Would be interested to know of any differing opinions. These three songs I think define Mariah Carey. (Monday 13 January 2020; 22:38)

Geek alert: UK singles ranking (92,314) by Bill from the UK Hi all. You know I love me some lists. And you know I love me some stats. And you know I love being a geek and an excel database here and there. Please see below an excerpt from my Mariah excel, which lists all her UK singles in order of chart position. Why do I find things like this so interesting? Lol. Interestingly, both Breakdown and The Roof managed to chart (at the back end) despite not being released in the UK. The Roof was withdrawn from sale and so the import versions of the two singles did make an impact. Makes you wonder how well they would have fared, had they been released officially. The mind boggles. Position - Year - Title 01 - 1994 - Without You 01 - 2000 - Against All Odds 02 - 1992 - I'll Be There 02 - 1994 - All I Want for Christmas Is You 02 - 2005 - We Belong Together 03 - 1994 - Endless Love 03 - 1996 - Always Be My Baby 03 - 1997 - Honey 03 - 2003 - I Know What You Want 04 - 1995 - Fantasy 04 - 1996 - Open Arms 04 - 1998 - My All 04 - 1998 - When You Believe 04 - 2005 - It's Like That 05 - 1999 - Heartbreaker 05 - 2008 - Touch My Body 06 - 1995 - One Sweet Day 07 - 1993 - Hero 08 - 1994 - Anytime You Need a Friend 08 - 2002 - Through the Rain 09 - 1990 - Vision of Love 09 - 1993 - Dreamlover 09 - 2005 - Get Your Number/Shake It Off 10 - 2000 - Thank God I Found You 11 - 2005 - Don't Forget About Us 12 - 2001 - Loverboy 16 - 1999 - I Still Believe 17 - 1991 - Emotions 17 - 1992 - Make It Happen 17 - 2003 - Boy (I Need You) 19 - 2009 - I Want to Know What Love Is 20 - 1992 - Can't Let Go 22 - 1997 - Butterfly 22 - 2013 - Beautiful 27 - 2006 - Say Somethin' 30 - 2008 - Bye Bye 32 - 2001 - Never Too Far/Don't Stop 37 - 1990 - Love Takes Time 38 - 1991 - Someday 52 - 2009 - Obsessed 54 - 1991 - There's Got to Be a Way 81 - 2010 - Angels Cry 84 - 2008 - I'll Be Lovin' U Long Time 87 - 1998 - The Roof (import) 87 - 2014 - You're Mine (Eternal) 90 - 2013 - The Art of Letting Go 95 - 2008 - I Stay In Love 98 - 1998 - Breakdown (import) I'm sorry. (Monday 13 January 2020; 21:30)

Re: Charmbracelet singles (92,298) (92,313) by Will from Australia Charmbracelet is hands down my least favourite album so I'd release Through The Rain and move on. When I listen to all the tracks and try imagine them on the radio I just struggle to. If I had to, I'd have released Through The Rain, Bringing On The Heartbreak and then The One. Now before you all come after me with your pitchforks, I do love a few other songs from the album but don't think they're single worthy. (Monday 13 January 2020; 21:08)

Re: Charmbracelet singles (92,310) (92,312) by Bill from the UK Charm Girl haha, love it. Yes I've no idea why The One was axed when it was seemingly received so positively by fans and critics in their reviews. Interesting that several of the responses have Yours. Great song, and agree, if the JT version had been released I think that would have been really successful. (Monday 13 January 2020; 18:46)

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