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Re: Vegas final show this leg 2/21/19 M&G (long) (88,575) (88,577) by Carlos from Brazil Mara, I am so sorry for your loss. Thank you for sharing this moment. I cried reading your message and I could only think about how Mariah would confort you with her songs. I guess your mom kind of had this mission for fighting for your hapiness and she passed very proud of her family. I'm sure. I'm sorry to respond but I just wanted to tell how brave and beautiful you are. Take your time to get well and God will take care of all the rest. (Thursday 14 March 2019; 12:45)

Re: Vegas final show this leg 2/21/19 M&G (long) (88,575) (88,576) by MusicfanJ from Germany Mara, I don't know what to say. I'm so sorry. I was reading your post and was happy to read your descriptions of the concert and the Mariah Meet and Great. I would have felt the same way if I had the chance of meeting her. To go on with the post and read what happend to your mom. I have no words. Life's so unfair. Please don't feel guilty that you went to Vegas to meet your "sister". I know exactly what you mean with "all the stuff don't mean anything". I wish you a lot of strength during this sad time. Sending a hug. (Thursday 14 March 2019; 12:17)

Vegas final show this leg 2/21/19 M&G (long) (88,575) by Mara from United States Well, I don't know if any of you remember me writing that I was going to Mariah's final Vegas show February 21st (she added more this summer). Please forgive me if this message is all over the place. I came on here saying how incredibly nervous I was that I had an actual Meet & Greet and was almost terrified that I would be disappointed after being a lifelong fan since her Debut and some of you really eased my nerves but totally understood where I was coming from. Well, I arrived in Vegas on Feb 20th and so excited yet nervous and on Thursday the night of the show, I just couldn't believe this was happening and after being a girl 14 mesmerized at VOL in 1990 to where I am in my life now, it was so unbelievable to me that I was going to for a moment actually meet this woman. My sister as I always called her. Coming from Pennsylvania the plane ride to Vegas is close to 6 hours so I had lots of time to imagine how it might go. My husband got me the tickets back in August and finally gave them to me on Christmas Eve my birthday. All along my mom and my sister knew but never told me as it was a huge surprise. My mother was so excited for me and so happy as any mother would be to see their child finally meet someone they literally followed pre internet days, record store days, you name it, my mom was a huge fan not that she had much of a choice, but she really did love Mariah. She and my sis were just so nervous and didn't want to see me let down not that MC would, but you Hera stories of people meeting someone they loved for so long and are a little disappointed. It happens and they are human too and I get that. Anyhow, the day of the show my husband and I made our way over to Caesar's box office at around noon to pick up my golden ticket and my green band to wear. I wanted to take my time looking around and taking pictures by her picture and go in the store before the rush of the show. I was so excited, it was like I was in a dream. We then went back to the Venetian where we stayed and I started playing MC on my phone and started getting ready. Sounds crazy to say but it felt like my wedding day getting all ready to finally complete something in my life that I never would have imagined ever happening. So we make our way back and head in the colosseum after a quick bite to eat across the theater and head in a little after 7. We joked with the ushers that MC prob would not be on exactly at 8 as the first night she was fashionably late, but she was much better as the show's went on. We sat second row center. It was amazing being so close. In fact in the row behind us was Jackie Jackson and his girlfriend and my husband was joking he got us better seats than a Jackson. Mariah was amazing, her voice was clear and strong, she did not sing "Can't Let Go" but she did "I Don't Want To Cry" and "Love Takes Time" and I thought I missed my chance seeing those songs live when she finished No 1 to Infinity in Vegas. Hearing those songs live, especially IDWC was unreal to me and even though I have seen her live 8 times, she never has performed those songs at any show I have been to. IDWC always as a young teen was my favorite song so it was such a treat. Mariah also sang One Sweet Day and dedicated it to "members of the Lambily that are no longer here tonight" she had a very young fan pass away after meeting her the previous week. Getting to see Roc & Roe come out was so sweet and seeing first hand her love and joy for those kids is truly a beautiful thing. Well, the time came, the show ended. I was trying to remember where they told me to meet the people for the meet and greet. Well, I spotted Bobby a pretty famous fan in the audience and tried to see if he had that yucky green wristband on and of course he did so I ran over to him from orders of my husband since he did not get a meet and greet for himself. My husband yelled "go over to him". I figured if anyone would know where to go for the M&G it would be him. So I felt like a fool, ran up and introduced myself as a follower of his and how I know he is like legendary in Mariah fan land, lol. He took me right under his wing, mind you, I'm sure I am a lot older than him as I am a 1990 fan so we are old. But he said come with me, I got you, don't be nervous, he had breath mints, it was amazing and I was no longer fearful of sitting by myself unaware of how this all went and all that. I met Michael too and Miguel who if any of you buy his Mariah artwork online, he is very famous and it was his first time meeting Mariah too so it was a special moment. Jackie Jackson was there sitting across from us too waiting like the rest of us to meet with Mariah after her show. Kris was walking around and apparently he knows Bobby and came over to him so I thanked him for messaging me back as I sent him a message telling him to look out for me as I was nervous. He smiled and said oh yes because he did write me back and said he would be the one introducing me to Mariah and not to be nervous as it goes lightening fast and just work on a great pic. So I asked him for a photo and he did. Well, finally after we were waited for a while, it was time and the little group I was with, Michael, Bobby, Miguel and a beautiful fan from Tokyo, we went last. We could see her from the curtain and hear her voice and it was surreal. When it came time for Bobby she air kissed him and commented on his hair and they did a few poses, then Kris comes to me and asked my name once more and he apologized, I told him I was still nervous and he told me to breathe and relax, he said you are going to get your shit together and meet Mariah, tell her how you feel and get an amazing picture. I felt like he was my hairstylist, he was so nice, I was like yes ok breathe, so he then just puts his arm around my back and pulls me personally up to Mariah and says Mariah, this is Mary Kay and she is a huge fan and has been since the beginning and she is incredibly nervous. She looks at me and says in this incredibly sweet voice Hi Mary Kay, don't be nervous. She had this warm smile her entire persona was kindness and warm. Incredibly beautiful and her waist was rediculously small. I was fixated on how small it was. All I could say back to her was Mariah, Mariah, Mariah, you have no idea how long, I have been with you since day one. I felt my eyes water and she proceeded to grab my hand and she was squeezing it. Her hands were very hot too like she may have been sick still. She was so comforting and I managed to tell her I even tried to buy a heart necklace like she used to wear and her pinky rings during her first album and she laughed and acted like she didn't know what I was talking about until she said oh I do, but I don't want think who gave them to me and she covered her mouth and whispered Tommy Mottola, and laughed, I said oh we don't know him and she laughed. She told me she loved my shoes and then we got our pic, she Mariah Carey is telling ME that don't worry the pic will come out fine. I managed to let her know my daughter and I will be back to see her in Atlantic City and that was it. It was surrreal, euphoric, amazing, anything but disappointing. The highest of the high, I was on cloud nine and never wanted to come down. We took some pics with other fans as they were celebrating Michael finally meeting Mariah and showing her his amazing work. It was a Cinderella night unlike anything. My mother and sister and daughter and my son were waiting but at that time it was after three am east coast time. Well, then Friday came. I called my mother first thing the next morning and she was so excited and beyond happy for me. She said she prayed I wasn't disappointed and I told her how beyond kind Mariah was and for a mother no matter what age her child is, to hear and see her so happy literally made her so happy. My mom got on the phone calling all her cousins and sister telling how I met Mariah. Finally they uploaded the pictures and I wasn't happy with how I looked and she yelled at me that she knew I would say that and to post it on Facebook. My last call to my mom was in the Cosmopolitan casino looking for Mariah's slot machines and my husband snapped a pic and sent it to her. My mom saw the pictures of me and Mariah and no it wasn't perfect although Mariah was, but my mother said it was beautiful and to post it. Well, we went on walking around casinos and just enjoying Las Vegas and finally went back to the Venetian and my husband went to play at a table, I went up to the room, called home and spoke to my sister who was with my mother at my house staying with my eleven year old daughter while we were out there. Well, as I was on the phone with my sister, she noticed my mom was in the bathroom a little long and went to check. I heard my sister screaming Mom over and over and telling me Mom isn't responding and yelling Mary she is cold. Omg, all while I am in a hotel room half way across the country in Las Vegas alone in the room hearing this. My mother was in my daughter's playroom in her favorite chair and my daughter called for an ambulance. My mother passed away, just like that hours after she told me to post my picture and hours after she told me how she prayed I had a good experience and how incredibly and genuinely happy she was knowing I finally met Mariah after all these years. I went from being on cloud nine and at the happiest you could be in a moment like that, to having your entire world ripped apart from you and feeling the worst pain you can imagine. I feel so guilty that I wasn't there, I was in Las Vegas. My mother wasn't sick. She had a massive Heart attack in my house in my daughter's playroom. I was on the phone when my sister found her unresponsive, I didn't know what was going on. I still cannot believe this happened. Everyone is a mess here and we had to try and get a flight out of Vegas immediately and it felt like the longest trip home in the world. It was the worst thing and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. This is how quick life is and how at any moment your entire life can change. None of that stuff meant anything, I just wanted to get home and get out of Las Vegas. My mom was a huge Mariah fan too and we have tickets to the Atlantic City show and it's going to be very hard. I know she sings Never Too Far and Anytime You Need A Friend. The words to ATYNAF remind me of what my mother would say to me. Portrait is another one. I'm sorry this was so long. I felt I needed to post this as I have been coming to this board for so long and this was such a life changing moment in my life and that's why I felt the need to try and explain where I was the day of the show and how happy and surreal I felt and then to lose the most important woman in my life literally less than twenty four hours later. My mom asked if I told Mariah we would be in AC with my daughter this time but maybe she will see us and give us a wave. I'm so sorry this was so long and I apologize if anyone was offended at all with talking about how my mom passed. I am still not even thinking straight yet. (Thursday 14 March 2019; 06:11)

My Saving Grace and Looking In? (88,574) by Shezz from Pk Were these two songs included in the setlist or not? They appeared on the setlist sheet and even the tour book but I have not found a single clip anywhere of them being performed on the Caution tour. (Thursday 14 March 2019; 04:44)

Re: Stefflon Don (88,570) (88,573) by jaker20 from US I personally don't mind if it's Stefflon, she's very talented. (Thursday 14 March 2019; 00:52)

Re: Stefflon Don (88,570) (88,572) by Andrew from London, UK "According to several sources the Stefflon Don remix isn't the official remix. Mary Ann replied that it was just Stefflon doing her own thing and that she hopes it's great and boosts the song." Please post links to the sources you have read. (Thursday 14 March 2019; 00:20)

Re: Everything Fades Away (88,569) (88,571) by Andrew from London, UK It is Will Downing - that was debated and settled here many times. It is Will Downing. On a very Music Box sounding track no matter what jealous, reductive, if not downright false, denigration is put forth, as almost everyone who had the full, complete album when they were younger will testify. Mariah just loved some of us more than others. (Thursday 14 March 2019; 00:02)

Stefflon Don (88,570) by B from USA According to several sources the Stefflon Don remix isn't the official remix. Mary Ann replied that it was just Stefflon doing her own thing and that she hopes it's great and boosts the song. (Wednesday 13 March 2019; 23:27)

Re: Everything Fades Away (88,556) (88,569) by MusicfanJ from Germany I think it's Will Downing. (Wednesday 13 March 2019; 22:55)

Re: Original Music Box track listing (88,535) (88,568) by MusicfanJ from Germany There couldn't be a better song for the ending of Music Box than "EFA". From "Dreamlover" to "Without You" to "Everything fades away". It suits very well. It's one of her best songs from her entire catalogue. From the first second to the excellent choir/male voice and the haunting end. I can listen to the last 30 seconds endlessly. Never heard something like this. It's so dreamy and I also used to listen to it before bedtime. (Wednesday 13 March 2019; 22:53)

Re: Original Music Box track listing (88,564) (88,567) by B from USA Thanks for sharing. (Wednesday 13 March 2019; 21:26)

Re: Original Music Box track listing (88,565) (88,566) by B from USA I said it sounds like an Emotions song and proposed maybe it was either an unused song from the Emotions sessions or was the first song written during the Music Box sessions before Tommy demanded Mariah make a pop leaning album. (Wednesday 13 March 2019; 21:24)

Re: Original Music Box track listing (88,559) (88,565) by Bill from the UK Honestly B I give up. You're right. It's an unused track from Emotions that was written to sound exactly like a song from Emotions in order to deliberately leave it off Music Box at Tommy's demand as it is too urban. (Wednesday 13 March 2019; 21:06)

Re: Original Music Box track listing (88,557) (88,564) by RibbonB from USA She is now, but she was married to him in the 90's. Here she is in an old comedy set. Her humor is so dry, but funny. I think she let him know her true feelings, and the rest is history. Check out some of her older routines, they are very funny. (Wednesday 13 March 2019; 20:49)

Janet Jackson inductee HOF (88,563) by RibbonB from USA Congratulations to Janet, for being inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame this year. Janelle Monae will have the honors of conducting her. Janelle Monae will also have one of her songs from Dirty Computer on the new Is movie soundtrack. Music placement is everything. I adore her song I Like That and it should fit it very well with this movie theme. Get Out did wonders to cement Donald Glover's Redbone into the cultural landscape, let's hope Us does the same for Janelle's song. Mimi's music would do well if placed on Insecure on HBO. I would love if a Mariah episode could happen. Last year's Insecure/Coachella episode is already legendary. (Wednesday 13 March 2019; 20:43)

Re: Caution tour sold out in Chicago (88,513) (88,562) by enwar00 from usa I love love loved the show. I agree with Chicago Lamb that Mariah was on fire. It always surprises me how good she sounds in concert in comparison to tv and YouTube clips, maybe it's because the band and backgrounds are mixed in or something but irregardless of why, it makes for a great concert experience. I honestly feel like there was minimal lipping, those few specific lines like then a hero comes along, etc. I thought it was well paced and even Dem Babies and Bianca didn't overstay their welcome, so those seemed to both be but moments. By updating the set list and giving fan favorites instead of the usual it added much needed variety. YDKWTD was a treat, AYNAF gave me instant chills, and I honestly felt the vindication during the Glitter songs. Hearing those songs live for the first time in itself was worth going to the show. It was mentioned she did a good amount of dance remixes during the second part and that was pretty cool, especially the random CTTA mix with the harmonica. However the most pleasant surprise to me was when she did the Mr. Dupri mix of ABMB during the second verse. That's my fave remix ever. As far as Caution, playing a good amount added a freshness to her shows I hadn't felt in a long time. My sister even asked before the show when did Mimi became hip again, elaborating she felt that way because of the sold out show and the new music, We agreed it was the snakes in the grass ill advising her to do reality shows and really I don't need to say much more about that slop and how marketing and spinning works. GTFO was my fave of the bunch, very cool mix of it I would love to have. With You is so interesting to me because it went from sounding so damn boring to being such a grower for me over time as well as on a couple radio formats right, and I feel like it's on its way to becoming a fan favorite and classic Mariah song. What differed for me than a couple other lambs was noticing much of the crowd knew the Caution songs and was singing along, so at least from where I was standing they seemed to be received very well. The screens behind the whole stage were very cool as well and added a lot to the whole show, and the cartoon Mariahs during Heartbreaker were super cute. One thing that again irked me was how she cuts out the second verse and chorus of some songs. Sometimes those are the best parts so it's disappointing. All in all I wish I could go again, sorry for the essay but I enjoyed it that much, and I agree if this was released on BluRay I would buy it in a heartbeat. Definitely worthy of that treatment. Oh it was exciting to see Dreamlover back in action. (Wednesday 13 March 2019; 20:33)

Article: Water your thoughts: leave Mariah alone (88,561) by Katrina Brown from USA I agree with everything you say. I have just this to say regarding Mariah and Ariana Grande. They should be saying that Ariana wants to sound like Mariah. The comparison should be that way because Mariah was around long before Ariana. Also, Mariah is highly disrespected. After being in the game for more than 30 years and all her achievements she deserves to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Now that's what I call disrespected on the highest level there is. Much love to all Mariah's other lambs out there. (Wednesday 13 March 2019; 20:13)

Article: Water your thoughts: leave Mariah alone (88,560) by JT from USA With all the positive press about Mariah, I'm not really sure why this was posted here. It's as basic as it gets and sounds like it was written by a pre-teen. I'd rather see content from actual journalists. (Wednesday 13 March 2019; 20:02)

Re: Original Music Box track listing (88,545) (88,559) by B from USA When Mariah Carey was released, critics took notice of its "overly produced" and "studio perfect" quality, where in comparison, Emotions maintains a "raw, live sound. Music Box however, falls in between the two, a decision made by Carey during the album's production. She would layer each track with live backing vocals, so not to sound too overly produced, but still kept the inclusion of musical synthesizers. (Nickson, Chris (1998), Mariah Carey revisited: her story, St. Martin's Press, ISBN 978-0-312-19512-0). Guess making it sound like a song from Emotions was intentional. (Wednesday 13 March 2019; 19:54)

Re: A No No getting no airplay (88,548) (88,558) by jaker20 from US Nonstop promotion will not necessarily change the results. She will just exhaust herself. It's not the quantity but quality. She has an image problem, the diva the legend, that essentially means old and has-been. New music landscape is about being relatable. That is why the remix was important. She gets acceptance again, then release a good song. That's what she did after Glitter with Busta Rhymes. She needs to be accepted first, now however good the song is she's getting rejected. (Wednesday 13 March 2019; 19:54)

Re: Original Music Box track listing (88,534) (88,557) by B from USA I didn't know he was married to Wanda, isn't she a lesbian? (Wednesday 13 March 2019; 19:35)

Everything Fades Away (88,556) by B from USA Who sang background vocals on EFA? It's not Trey. (Wednesday 13 March 2019; 19:33)

Re: Re: Original Music Box track listing (88,542) (88,545) (88,555) by B from USA Just a theory. It's not that deep. It even begins similarly to Can't Let Go. It would sound at home between And You Don't Remember and If It's Over. It would sound at home between And You Don't Remember and If It's Over. (Wednesday 13 March 2019; 19:27)

Re: Original Music Box track listing (88,545) (88,554) by B from USA I wrote that it sounds like an unused Emotions track because it does, it doesn't sound like any other song on Music Box. However, it does sound similar to several songs from Emotions. Just a theory. It's not that deep. It even begins similarly to Can't Let Go. (Wednesday 13 March 2019; 19:22)

Re: The tour (88,541) (88,553) by B from USA I don't understand why self professed lambs are complaining about this era. Mariah has released three videos within days of each songs release (which had been a major issue). More importantly the videos aren't embrassing or cringe worthy. Caution is a great album and the tour is an overwhelming success. Mariah isn't promoting the album version of A No No because a remix is imminent and the promotional efforts will be focused on the remix. Go to YouTube and watch clips of Mariah singing YDKWTD and be festive. By the way, don't forget to stream A No No. (Wednesday 13 March 2019; 19:16)

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