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Re: Sit your ... down (85,451) (85,464) by Mara from United States Perfectly said enwar. I have yet to hear a voice anything close to Mariah from the 90's through 00's to this day. Her texture, low deep notes, whistles, high octives, layering, whispering, buttery full voice. There are some current singers that may have one or two of those characteristics, not one of them have all. That's why Mariah will always be known as the best vocalist along with Whitney. She has already stamped her legacy. One way or another her voice produced songs like ATYNAF and Til The End Of Time, Melt Away, to the euphoric Underneath The Stars and of course All I Want For Christmas and I can go on and on. (Wednesday 31 October 2018; 14:02)

Re: going on Wendy (85,461) (85,463) by Susana from USA I don't really watch Ellen's show anymore unless she is on. Why do you have a bad feeling, something she has said recently? (Wednesday 31 October 2018; 13:29)

Re: Voice appearance (85,459) (85,462) by Billy from Greece Preach. (Wednesday 31 October 2018; 11:35)

Re: going on Wendy (85,457) (85,461) by Lexingz from Estonia I don't think she should go on Wendy. I don't like the show (I no longer watch it) and she has been humiliated and nitpicked on that show so many times. I see no reason for her to go there, ever. She should stick to Kimmel, Fallon etc. Friendly hosts who don't bully her. I am glad she has not gone on Ellen either. I just have a bad feeling about Ellen recently and I'm kind of over her. (Wednesday 31 October 2018; 10:47)

Re: Voice appearance (85,459) (85,460) by Shezz from Pk Wow RJ. Never have I read a better address to the current situation (re: her voice, her current efforts, her past, and most importantly the prevalent sentiments here - good intentioned as they may be). Every single word that you said is the absolute truth. (Wednesday 31 October 2018; 10:28)

Re: Voice appearance (85,448) (85,459) by 123 from USA Randy. Why would you ask that question? Everyone already knows the answer or are you just baiting? When has she ever sung at random? Hardly ever, especially recently. She didn't in the carpool karaoke, she doesn't in interviews. It's been discussed ad nauseam. There was a whole back and forth about it on the board. Also, have you not been watching her concert videos? I figured you have most agree and have commented in a variety of ways that her voice hasn't been in good shape. This is one of her worst years vocally and she is only starting to sound better on her Asian leg of her tour. So if we all know she can't sing like she used to, hasn't sounded to great at all this year sans a few moments of brilliance, and hasn't done it in the past, why would she magically start singing perfectly now. If she struggles on stage, she's going to struggle at random. And we must have watched different shows. She gave some advice like telling the girl she wanted to hear more of her low notes because not everyone has that or the guy who struggled in the beginning when singing The Weeknds Earned It and she told him to use restraint or completed the 14 year old about her voice as nor her or their coach had any pointers they felt she needed. Her role was really pointless as she was never left alone to work with the contestants and their coaches were right there. I'd be rude to just take over or contradict the coach who has been working with them throughout the whole show. It was more of a ratings tactic for the show. And why wouldn't they say she is a vocal icon? One of the best voices alive. She never gets credit for what she has done vocally and finally every single person on that show revered her like she should always be revered instead of made out to be a diva. Just because she can't sing like she used to doesn't mean she should be stripped of being considered as one of the best who ever did it. No one, not even Mariah herself can compete with the vocals she delivered when she was during her prime. She should not only be recognized, but respected for the level of singing she brought to the table. Why should she be shunned for not vocally being what she once was. It doesn't take away for what she has already done and I'm confused why you are expecting something we know wasn't going to happen. We have all seen the concert footage this year. What she did do is drop the diva persona and presented herself as a humble icon and was able to slightly display her musicality. The show is helping her restore her image. Can't we at least celebrate people being able to see her for the musical genius that she is. There was not one "dahling" and the coaches loved and respected her. Why can't you? You never know when she might pass away. All big stars due and for once in a long time, she seems happy and safe. (Wednesday 31 October 2018; 07:40)

Re: Track list snippets (85,445) (85,458) by Shezz from Pk Anybody else heard the rumour that she's going to be releasing a second part to Caution next year, hence the 10 song track list for now? I highly doubt it. (Wednesday 31 October 2018; 04:22)

Re: For pure indulgence... (85,443) (85,457) by Shezz from Pk I would lovvvvve to see her on Wendy. Everybody would lose it including Wendy. She'll probably acknowledge knowing J Lo first than going on Wendy sadly. (Wednesday 31 October 2018; 04:19)

Re: Voice appearance (85,448) (85,456) by Randy from USA Ok she sang a line. I should've waited until the second night for my commenting. (Wednesday 31 October 2018; 03:25)

Re: Track list snippets (85,449) (85,455) by RibbonB from USA Well he does like her to sing full voice, but how do we know it's a JD production? He always gets two or three songs on, except on Memoirs. I like a lot of his songs with MC, especially when he leaves his voice off of them. (Wednesday 31 October 2018; 02:52)

Re: Sit your ... down (85,451) (85,454) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada Exactly Enwar. (Wednesday 31 October 2018; 02:49)

Re: Lipsync in the studio (85,450) (85,453) by Edward from USA No need for that. She piecemeals every song and tracks she lips to perfectly in the studio. (Wednesday 31 October 2018; 02:23)

Re: Voice appearance (85,448) (85,452) by Licia from USA I totally get what you're saying Randy and I agree that it would have been nice if she had demonstrated alot of what she was telling them. Although that's what I wanted her to do, I'm not at all surprised by her doing the opposite. *shrugs* (Wednesday 31 October 2018; 01:38)

Re: Sit your ... down (85,441) (85,451) by enwar00 from usa Same. It's apparent. It's unfortunate and it's sad, but nothing lasts forever. It is what it is. Regardless of what's caused the changes, I can't deny what I hear, nor will I dwell on it either. Some songs sound better than others, and hopefully there will once again be improvements. This doesn't take away from what once was, which, to me at least, was the most amazing and beautiful voice I've ever heard in my life. (Wednesday 31 October 2018; 00:13)

Lipsync in the studio (85,450) by Lafa from Sweden Does Mariah lipsync when she records in the studio, too? (Tuesday 30 October 2018; 22:36)

Re: Track list snippets (85,445) (85,449) by 123 from USA I think he produced "A No No" which is my favorite of the 4 tracks so far. She is singing in her full voice/mid range and her tone is very Rainbow era on that track. The sample has been overused but the track is good. (Tuesday 30 October 2018; 22:04)

Re: Voice appearance (85,442) (85,448) by Randy from USA I'm going to say this as gingerly as possible, as I am always called negative and people claim I hate Mariah. She couldn't sing one note? And I'm not talking about getting on stage for a performance. I mean every single contestant and judge called her one of the greatest vocalists of all time, and yet she couldn't vocally demonstrate what she wanted them to do with certain runs, words, phrases, notes? Kelly did. And MC's commentary wasn't vocally specific in most cases. Someone saying I need to hear your heart is not helpful. I was disappointed in the two hours of pretty much no vocal help from someone everyone considered a vocal icon. I will admit Dee and Gee, she was very humble and she looked amazing. She gave the appearance that I would expect from a kind supermodel, not from who everyone on the show agreed was one of the best vocalist who ever lived. (Tuesday 30 October 2018; 21:11)

Re: Track list snippets (85,444) (85,447) by B from USA Mariah was young and naive when she said that. She was also being called a studio manufactured artist who was incapable of replicating her vocals live. At this stage in her career I don't mind if she lypsyncs. I'm loving all of the fan uploaded videos of slaying her Asian tour. (Tuesday 30 October 2018; 20:55)

Re: Track list snippets (85,445) (85,446) by RibbonB from USA Lol, dang B. JD can make some gems though. (Tuesday 30 October 2018; 20:29)

Re: Track list snippets (85,440) (85,445) by B from USA I'm hoping his contributions didn't make the album. (Tuesday 30 October 2018; 18:52)

Re: Track list snippets (85,438) (85,444) by Bill from the UK She also said she’d never lip sync but, well, here we are. (Tuesday 30 October 2018; 18:33)

Re: For pure indulgence... (85,436) (85,443) by RibbonB from USA She won't, or I seriously doubt it. I doubt we get Ellen, Oprah or The View and those were her mainstays. I doubt she wants to answer questions about the last three years or so. Anything is possible, but she has been away from mainstream daytime sit down tv since Infinity and Stella and past and present snakes in the grass. Too much "splaining" to do. Maybe she would on a dare, I dare Mimi to walk the Wendy gauntlet. Wendy would be honored and play it up. (Tuesday 30 October 2018; 18:19)

Re: Voice appearance (85,439) (85,442) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada I suppose there are those who believe Mariah is just self centered. Playing up the diva image over the years hasn't helped that, but I've never believed the image is a true representation of the genuine person. We got to see it on The Voice, and I loved it. I hope she's on route to showing more of herself to the public, because she deserves to be seen in her vulnerability and strength, using her gifts. That's what people connect to, when you're just being yourself without all the extras. Props. Well done Mariah. (Tuesday 30 October 2018; 18:15)

Re: Sit your ... down (85,437) (85,441) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada Me too Lucia. I love her, and will always and I accept the changes, but I don't pretend they aren't there. (Tuesday 30 October 2018; 17:58)

Re: Track list snippets (85,438) (85,440) by RibbonB from USA True, GTFO is a nod to EDM. But it will be interesting to see what those other songs actually sound like. I suspect JD will have at least two of those. He is still in this project isn't he? (Tuesday 30 October 2018; 17:54)

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