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Re: Article: Mariah Carey shows off a toned figure (87,504) (87,511) by Lee from USA My point exactly. No evidence, but spread around the world anyways. She should have destroyed that witch when she had a chance. (Tuesday 8 January 2019; 15:58)

Re: Caution returns to Number One (87,498) (87,510) by Deedre aka MiTodoChop @HBF from Canada I really did not have any expectations for Caution from a charting standpoint at this time in her career with the general attitude in the music industry toward artist over 40 and the hits Mariah has taken for her public image, so this is nice for her. (Tuesday 8 January 2019; 14:52)

Re: R. Kelly (87,502) (87,509) by Bill from the UK If I remember correctly, at the time he released the (still) amazing Ignition Remix, everyone quickly forgot about all the charges against him. Also get your point about not liking Caution but appreciating it. I never listen to E=MC2 or Memoirs that much, but when I do, I enjoy every single song. (Tuesday 8 January 2019; 14:24)

Re: R. Kelly (87,502) (87,508) by Sarah from Netherlands Special K: Hey, I absolutely feel ya on that. When I Believe I Can Fly came out with the Space Jam soundtrack, Step in the Name of Love, the man's musical genius is undeniable. So it's understandable. That said, I do applaud you that in spite of that you no longer want to support him. B: I know what it means. The problem with that is that with supporting his music/art you're putting money directly into his pocket that will allow him to continue doing what he's been doing. So if you're OK with doing that, nobody can stop you, of course. (Tuesday 8 January 2019; 10:18)

Re: MC and judging R Kelly (87,494) (87,507) by Sarah from Netherlands Well, you're right about the part where it's sort of scary that a television special can spark all this outrage. But the thing is: it didn't reveal a lot of new things from what I gather (haven't seen it). These things were always a public secret. Is he an anomaly? Good chance he's not. Does that mean we should let it slide and continue to celebrate him as the general public? See, I don't think so. I deleted all his music off my iPod years ago and will call other people out for supporting him. Same as I would for people who still support Weinstein, Woody Allen, Bill Cosby etc. (Tuesday 8 January 2019; 07:23)

Re: With You (87,442) (87,506) by this_is_qhm from the Philippines Adele's music is more mature, but they can all sound same-y, way more than Mariah's material can. Mariah can go overboard with the eternally 12 shtick at times, but I take that as her still willing to have fun and include less mature songs in an album to keep things more interesting. Don't get me wrong - interesting is not equivalent to childish or shallow, but Mariah is a much more versatile artist who is more willing to experiment. Adele is great, but she has yet to put out an album that actually showcases her creativity. Yes, her formula still works, but she can only make another version of 21 before people start to get tired. 21 and 25 are great, but 19 still makes for a better listen overall because of the variety of music styles present in it. Mariah has done most of timeless stuff in the past. She's still capable of making that type of record today. Of course we wish she'd make more of that than the tracks that pander to the younger generation, but at least she has managed to find a healthy balance between the two types when most artists have trouble experimenting without sounding too desperate or losing their artistic identity in the process. That's why critics aren't complaining about Mariah's output anymore. (Tuesday 8 January 2019; 04:51)

Re: R. Kelly (87,489) (87,505) by RibbonB from USA It's very sad how many parents are willing to sell their kids basically. There are lots of unclean hands involved, including law enforcement if he's running an actual sex trafficking ring. (Tuesday 8 January 2019; 04:46)

Article: Mariah Carey shows off a toned figure (87,504) by Nikki from usa She didn't have gastric bypass. That was a rumor started by Stella. You'd think most would've caught on to that when Mariah was never out of the public limelight for more than 3 days at a time. That's not a weekend kind of surgery. Mariah had begun working out over a 5 month period than was put on a specific 11 day liquid diet designed for her to melt fat and increase her metabolism in October. Mariah's nutritionist had a brief article about it, but it got swallowed up under all of Stella's "surgery" rumors. (Tuesday 8 January 2019; 04:41)

Caution (87,503) by B from USA Is back at #1 on Billboard's R&B Albums chart. (Tuesday 8 January 2019; 04:16)

Re: R. Kelly (87,489) (87,502) by Special K from USA "Trash ass". I love it. You know I hate to admit it but I was a huge R. Kelly fan. I gave him a pass about Aaliyah because like you, me and Aaliyah were about the same age so I really didn't care. I never watched the video tape so when Kells was found not guilty of the child pornography charges I just figured "oh well" and still continued to buy his music, etc. I just feel so bad that I supported this man and was seriously a true fan. I got to be honest, I am going through R Kelly withdrawals. I have almost all of his albums. Sorry but alot his songs are good memories for me. It's like I really can't listen to Chocalate Factory no more? Not even Stop Into the 90's or A Woman Scorned? How about the remix to Gotham City? What about the R double album? All those dang hits. I know I sound past pathetic about some trash bucket creep. With that said I promise you I will no longer support R Kelly. I am so sorry that it took me this damn long to realize the truth. (Tuesday 8 January 2019; 04:14)

Re: Portrait (87,493) (87,501) by Susana from USA Yes, I remember crying along with her to Fields of Gold at the Olympics. That pure emotion is unbeatable. (Tuesday 8 January 2019; 02:25)

Re: R. Kelly (87,487) (87,500) by B from USA What I meant by separate the man from the music is I am able to still enjoy an artist's music even if they supposedly engaged in lewd and illegal behavior. (Tuesday 8 January 2019; 02:17)

Re: Portrait (87,490) (87,499) by Dove from United States Yes. I think the costume should be white because in my mind our spirits are white and I like the idea of the skater representing her spirit - by herself in the dark with a spotlight on her while having to not only walk but perform on ice, which is slippery. Someone get MC on the phone. Actually though, I don't think Portrait would be a good single, but I do think it should have a video. I think all her songs should. Two to three high budget ones, a few low budget ones, and the rest performance videos. (Tuesday 8 January 2019; 02:09)

Caution returns to Number One (87,498) by Special K from USA According to Billboard, Caution has returned back to the number one spot on the R&B album chart. (Tuesday 8 January 2019; 01:35)

Re: Caution tour at SugarLand (87,491) (87,497) by Licia from USA That's the one I'm attending. (Tuesday 8 January 2019; 01:06)

Re: MC and judging R Kelly (87,494) (87,496) by Dove from United States I don't believe it's fake outrage. I think people's brains try to convince them it didn't really happen so that they can go on living their lives. When we are confronted with so much evidence (people's testimonies are evidence) we snap from our dream world and want to do something about it. He's using money and connections to commit his crimes and get away with them so by not supporting him with your money you're not contributing to or enabling the abuse. I don't think MC needs to make a statement but I don't think she should work with him again, no matter how talented he may be. The world is full of talented people. Also, I think the victims want us to be outraged and do something about it, otherwise they wouldn't be talking about it. Better late than never. Being a celebrity is a privilege and we (the public) choose who gets to be famous with our money. Let's choose right. (Tuesday 8 January 2019; 00:39)

Licia Re: R. Kelly (87,489) (87,495) by Dove from United States Your post made me think some more and the reason I find it easy to disown R Kelly is because I was never that into him to begin with. If it was Mariah Carey that would be harder because her albums have been the soundtrack to my life since 1990 when I was a little kid. I think I would still listen to her music that I already own, but I would not buy any new stuff. (Tuesday 8 January 2019; 00:30)

MC and judging R Kelly (87,494) by Geronimo from USA When Mariah worked with R Kelly it raised my eyebrows. Then I got over it. I wondered, though, if the industry was so full of abusive monsters that R Kelly was nothing special by comparison. Despite the fact that his 25-year-old abusive streak is suddenly a popular sensation in media I fear he's probably far from an anomaly. I hope that he is held accountable for the damage he has caused people and it held responsible for repairing as much of the damage as can be repaired. I hope criminal charges filed against him produce convictions. At the same time, I don't make the same connection people seem very excited to make - that his music should be banned, he should never perform anywhere else on the planet ever again, and that good and decent people would never dream of collaborating with him in the future. I wouldn't catch an Uber pool with him myself and I would also ask the driver to change the station if an R. Kelly song came on. But I just don't think he is that special and I'm not sure all of the loud trendy outrage being poured out now represents concern for his victims or a conviction to understand the nature of their vulnerability. It makes perfect sense to me that people are outraged by what they are hearing about him. It especially makes sense to me that people are scratching their heads trying to understand why Aaliyah's family let her remain vulnerable to him and why adults who witnessed his crimes did not do more as witnesses against him in court and in other social contexts. However, it is very creepy for me to see that a television program can release all of this self-righteousness and fake outrage in media consumers. His crimes are certainly outrageous. But the media circus and the impromptu cottage industry of incredulous comments are getting to feel like a disgusting extension of the very entertainment world where his behavior is praised, rewarded, and accommodated. I hope Mariah says nothing condemning him or excusing herself. I am super curious what she's thinking right now, though. The only people I want to hear from are the victims (if they feel like talking more to the media as opposed talking to their therapists and lawyers). I wouldn't mind reading the confessions of R Kelly's immediate enablers in the music industry who have covered for him and turned a blind eye for these decades, either. (Monday 7 January 2019; 23:24)

Re: Portrait (87,490) (87,493) by Edward from USA Michelle Kwan is an icon. If she skated to Portrait, I would die. Her skating to Eva Cassidy's "Fields of Gold" was phenomenal. So much emotion. I always dreamed of her skating to "Hero" or "Music Box". (Monday 7 January 2019; 23:04)

Randy (87,492) by Special K from USA Randy, my brotha from another mother my post wasn't directed towards you. Please believe me I know you prefer those deep, emotional, introspective, personal songs that have lyrical content that is timeless. Well, nurse on Potriat for awhile. No I am seriously just kidding. Mariah would have more of those type of songs if she would stop writing with 50 people. Or, maybe she is writing and recording those type of songs however they are not making it on the album. You never know. I highly doubt that Portriat was the only song she wrote that has powerful lyrical content. As for Caution, I am not a huge fan of the album. I've stated previously that the album is missing exactly those type of songs that you are talking about. I wish it featured more songs like a Joy Ride, FLAB, Cry, For The Record, and Languishing. What's funny is that even though I am not a huge fan of the album, I know and can admit that it is a damn good album. Does that make any sense? (Monday 7 January 2019; 19:37)

Caution tour at SugarLand (87,491) by Alberto from Italy Hi Lambs. I'm new here. Is there anyone going to Caution tour date in Sugar Land, TX? (Monday 7 January 2019; 18:47)

Re: Portrait (87,475) (87,490) by Susana from USA And if you want all the feels in the video get Michele Kwan to skate to it. Even though she retired years ago, she still skates and would give all of the emotion needed for a song like this. (Monday 7 January 2019; 18:16)

Re: R. Kelly (87,487) (87,489) by Licia from USA Well R. Kelly has been trash for years. When the Aaliyah marriage took place I was the same age as her. I didn't believe that they actually got married and because I was young I didn't care. It wasn't until the video of him and the young girl came out that I stopped buying his music and once he put that gospel CD out that same year trying to act as if he was godly really sealed the deal for me. I'm not going to lie and say I'm going to stop listening to the music I already have from him because I love his music. It sucks that he's such a trash ass person. A lot of people still worked with him despite the tape because they probably didn't think the situation was as bad as it is so I don't hold anything against any of the other artists. If they work with him now is when I'll see them differently. Not only does he deserve jail, those trash ass parents and adults in his team need time too. They all knew what was going on. (Monday 7 January 2019; 16:45)

Re: R Kelly (87,488) by Dove from United States There are plenty of talented people who aren't abusers. I choose to support them. I Believe I Can Fly was a part of my childhood but I'm going to scrub it from my brain. I worked for child protective services a long time ago and the big thing I learned in my time there is that there are a lot of sick people in the world. Most of the time people don't believe victims. Even the victims' own families a lot of the time. Mariah Carey is not the abuser and as far as we know she wasn't present when the abuse took place. If she was aware I'm sure she wouldn't have worked with him. For me the peeing on an underage girl in a video was enough to disown him but as a celebrity who has had false accusations made against her maybe she believed he wasn't guilty. A lot of times the brain doesn't want to accept something so terrible, uncomfortable, and shocking so we block it. We put our blindfolds on because it makes us feel better to pretend it's not real. Most of the time it is, though, so I believe the victims 100 percent of the time. (Monday 7 January 2019; 14:26)

Re: R. Kelly (87,486) (87,487) by Sarah from Netherlands There's a very big difference between MJ and R. Kelly and saying you "separate the man from his music" is just irresponsible. We have known for years about Kelly. People in Chicago have reported for years that he posted up outside of schools to prey on young girls. He forged papers to marry and rape an underage Aaliyah who was never able to talk about the situation later in life (look up Dame Dash's comments). People stood there and allowed this to happen all for another payday. And we, the public, knew this too. A video featuring the man and a 14 year old girl surfaces in 2003 and we're gonna pretend we didn't know and we're gonna keep lining his pockets? I'm so disappointed in humanity. Or the lack thereof. (Monday 7 January 2019; 13:27)

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