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Re: Distance - my theory (for laughs) (85,121) (85,132)
by Andrew from UK
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Yes, Shezz, yes. Not every song has to be her life story. It makes songs inaccessible or off-putting to those who don't like her but would buy her music were it good. I'm really turned off by lyrics such as "had to leave by half past four" and other such specific details. Why would you sing along to that? Joe Public finds no meaning in it. I call these the "kitchen window" lyrics after one of the lyrics that ruined the genius TAOLG. A good example of good storytelling is Cry. It's possibly specific but universal in application. Adele's Someone Like You is the best version I can think of in re: storytelling with universal application and gigantic impact. These down-wiv-da-kids lyrics are not worthy of someone who used to compose such poetry to music. George Golden is absolutely right to wonder why someone's writing becomes more immature the older they get. I am holding out for the rest of the album. Genuinely, my fingers are crossed. But I am worried it's going to be meaningless drivel and I will finally give up. *crosses fingers even tighter* PS. I understood "half past four" to be a British thing? Don't the Americans say "four thirty"? A bit like when she sings "autumn's leaves are gone". Don't the American's call it "the fall"?
(Saturday 20 October 2018; 02:16)
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Re: Caution album (85,123) (85,131)
by Andrew from UK
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And keep it secret, I say. I, for one, being stuck in, ooo, 1997 today, yearn for the days you had to go to a record store where you'd see the CD for the first time, gasp at Mariah's picture, run to the checkout scanning the tracklist wondering what each one sounded like, rush home and listen front to back reading the lyrics and the little messages she used to write. It was exciting. This drip feeding of guest artists, track titles, songs, artwork, etc., takes all the awe out of it. There's no suspense. Big reveals have impact. Of course, the modern music era has the benefits of instant streaming, etc. But let's raise a glass to the nineties: when singles were singles and you sure as shite didn't have to debate if they were or not. And if it was a Mariah Carey one, you felt sorry for anyone else releasing music that week.
(Saturday 20 October 2018; 02:02)
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Please read, why I love Mariah (85,130)
by Tevin from USA
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So it's been a pretty stressful year for my family, with a couple bad things happening. Anyway I literally walk into the house and my dad has With You blasting, my moms holding and dancing with my newborn cousin, my brother listening and smiling, I immediately grab my little 4 year old sis and start dancing. See this is why I can never give up on Mariah. Literally the last few weeks have been stressful some arguing. But for that moment we forget all our stresses and anxieties and focus on the music. Only Mariah can do this. Thank you Mariah if you ever read this you're one of the things that we bond over in my family. From me riding in a car seat listening to ABMB and OSD to belting out WBT with my mom and dad, to taking a moment out of our stressful few months and helping us realize why we love each other and share a common bond. I love you Miss Mariah Carey.
(Saturday 20 October 2018; 02:00)
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Re: Caution album (85,128) (85,129)
by Andrew from UK
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Haha holy shite, I actually meant it for Edouard after his four thousand two hundred consecutive posts. You have the same avatar. Even aimed at him it was just a (hilarious) joke. And it's conceivable that I appear "mean" on here sometimes. I am certain if you did meet me you would find that I am not as bad as you think. I still think I'd think you bat-shit cray cray, though. You bring Édouard and Terna, I'll bring Randy and Jade and we can have a debate. We could ask Victoria to invigilate but she clearly fancies me so it may not be fair on you.
(Saturday 20 October 2018; 01:43)
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Re: Caution album (85,125) (85,128)
by Bobby A from United States
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Man, I am just joking about the tracklisting and needing it now. Loosen up. You say what you want to say on here. Don't you bro. And when you say it you sound so negative and mean. Don't take me too seriously on this forum. I have all of my compacities and then some. I would love to meet you one day. Thank you.
(Saturday 20 October 2018; 00:58)
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Re: Distance - my theory (for laughs) (85,115) (85,127)
by Mirage_Nunez from America
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I definitely see your theory too and my mind went straight to "James" as well upon first listen of GTFO, but after listening for awhile I started thinking "unjustly handsome" and "go stay at your homeboy's" references gave me more Nick than James. Also she seemed more "lost and disenchanted" after Nick, being that Brian swept her off her feet immediately after James (they practically eclipsed each other). With James she seemed to more so have had an epiphany that he wasn't right for her (ala I Don't), were as with Nick she seemed genuinely heartbroken (Cry, Camouflage etc); understandably so since it was an actual six year marriage. I'm now thinking maybe she mixed the two experiences: verse one gives me Nick for some reason and verse two sounds like James with the "My friends all saw it in your eyes. They told me once, they told me twice. I looked beyond all the signs." I can totally see her taking inspiration from both experiences. Who know, maybe there's even some Stella inspiration in there also.
(Friday 19 October 2018; 23:47)
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Re: The Distance (85,061) (85,126)
by Anonymous from
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Love your message Andy. Not for the shout-out, which was lovely of you, but for your opinion.
(Friday 19 October 2018; 22:43)
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Re: Caution album (85,118) (85,125)
by Andrew from UK
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Bro, did you eat breakfast in a pharmacy today?
(Friday 19 October 2018; 22:41)
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Re: With You > TD > GTFO (85,107) (85,124)
by Nicole from US
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TD > GTFO > With You
(Friday 19 October 2018; 21:37)
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Re: Caution album (85,118) (85,123)
by Mimi L. from Empower Your Highlighter
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Maybe she has featured artists there that she wants to keep a secret.
(Friday 19 October 2018; 21:33)
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Re: Distance - my theory (for laughs) (85,117) (85,122)
by Matty from Vancouver Canada
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I agree that there is a very strategic story being told by the sequence of track releases. However I believe it is: GTFO: Stella With You: Tanaka saving Mimi from Packer The Distance: all the positive, loving, support Lambs who have stuck by her during the worst and darkest periods even when the public turned against her
(Friday 19 October 2018; 20:16)
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Re: Distance - my theory (for laughs) (85,117) (85,121)
by Shezz from Pk
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Mimi must have downed a lot of Caymus to call Packer "unjustly handsome" or maybe she was being sarcastic. Or maybe every song doesn't have to be her own life story.
(Friday 19 October 2018; 19:53)
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The Distance - fresh (85,120)
by Lafa from Sweden
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"The Distance". Really fresh. Feels like Mariah. Better than the other two singles, I can play this on repeat.
(Friday 19 October 2018; 19:13)
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Re: With You > TD > GTFO (85,107) (85,119)
by Licia from USA
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I'm the total opposite. TD > GTFO > With You. I feel like I should love With You more because it sort of has a CB vibe, but for whatever reason I don't. I like it, but I just know it's going to be one of those songs I'll pass up often on the playlist. Maybe a remix will fix it for me. TD is just really catchy like you said. I could have done without the little cheer, but I still enjoy the song. GTFO is just funny to me because I find myself humming the song when people are getting on my nerves at work. Lol.
(Friday 19 October 2018; 18:55)
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Caution album (85,118)
by Bobby A from United States
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I want the full tracklisting like right now. Why is she waiting so long to release the full tracklisting if there are only 10 songs on the album? Unless she has some more surprises in store like a Target Exclusive Deluxe Edition. I would love for the Standard Edition to be 10 songs and Deluxe Edition to have 7 extra songs.
(Friday 19 October 2018; 18:41)
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Re: Distance - my theory (for laughs) (85,115) (85,117)
by Bobby A from United States
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You are 100% right. That is why GTFO is track 1 and With You is track 2. The Distance is track 5. I am curious what is the subject of tracks 3 and 4. Maybe Stella?
(Friday 19 October 2018; 18:36)
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(85,116)
by george golden from uk
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Ok I will have to make a correction. This song is great and I love the vibe. Mariah can't really please everybody and we as fans get really passionate and want her to do well. I get frustrated sometimes and lash out, but its all good. I will definitely be getting the album. Lol.
(Friday 19 October 2018; 18:05)
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Re: Distance - my theory (for laughs) (85,111) (85,115)
by B from USA
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I assumed GTFO was Mariah telling Packer to GTFO (telling him to go stay at Ratners house), With You is about Brian saving Mariah from marrying Packer (yes, the Mariah's World scenes were staged or reenactments), and The Distance is about them reuniting after breaking up last fall and still going strong.
(Friday 19 October 2018; 17:04)
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Re: With You > TD > GTFO (85,107) (85,114)
by MusicfanJ from Germany
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Edward "I can't help it, Mariah is a bad influence." Haha that made me laugh. I also prefer a 10 track album. Sometimes less is more. "The Distance" totally got me. When she sings fly and ladida it's so Mariah. it. How she sings distance, I can't get out of my head.
(Friday 19 October 2018; 17:01)
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Re: With You / cover art / The Distance (85,084) (85,113)
by Brad from USA
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Hi Tevin. I live in Connecticut but my pic is from a spot on Martha's Vineyard. Hope you are well.
(Friday 19 October 2018; 16:52)
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Re: The Distance (85,110) (85,112)
by B from USA
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Does playing the Caution platlist over and over count?
(Friday 19 October 2018; 16:49)
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Distance - my theory (for laughs) (85,111)
by Mirage_Nunez from America
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So first let me say I think The Distance is the definition of a stone groove (smash hit wonder). I can see a video in blue tint (much like her album cover) with gentle winds blowing thin white curtains on each side of a big open window, but I digress. The song gives me Teddy Riley, Keith Sweat 80s jam vibes, but with a very modern twist. Not saying it should be the next single single, but I can so hear it all over radio. I'm excited to see what else Mariah has in stored with this new album, era, and I'm loving the new energy Mariah is serving this year (positive, professional, polished). So for my theory: piggy backing off the person that said they believe Mariah is telling a story with how she released the songs. Okay so follow me: you all remember that period when it seemed like Mariah and Nick were secretly back together, spending a lot family time together, appearances etc. and Brian Tanaka was out of the picture. Then all of a sudden Nick was gone again and Brian was back. Well my theory is GTFO is the story of her and Nick breaking it off for good, With You is her declaring the love between her and Brian as the real deal, and The Distance basking in the strength of their union. Disclaimer: I'm not coming for Nick or making him out to be the "bad guy", I love and support Roc and Roe's daddy too. I just found the theory of her telling a story with her songs intriguing when paralleling it to actual observations.
(Friday 19 October 2018; 16:44)
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Re: The Distance (85,085) (85,110)
by Chicago Lamb from USA
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If anyone is playing on repeat, please refresh your browser each time so the stream ticks add up.
(Friday 19 October 2018; 16:29)
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Re: With You > TD > GTFO (85,107) (85,109)
by 90sMariah from SG
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The Distance > GTFO > With You. There. Fixed it for you.
(Friday 19 October 2018; 16:26)
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Re: Can we talk about... (85,094) (85,108)
by Chicago Lamb from USA
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I'm glad you brought up the topic. Her vocals from Taipei last night were great. The humidity does have a lot to do with it and I surmise the time change has even more effect. Mariah has always liked singing in the wee hours.
(Friday 19 October 2018; 16:25)
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